Talk:Sylar

Freezing

I think we can settle the debate on this. In this interview, the writers confirmed Sylar can freeze people. They also confirmed his memory will be getting better as a result of absorbing Charlie's power. --Stabbey 15:14, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

And yet in yesterday's episode, the only power they could find in him was telekinesis. --Kmsiever 15:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

That's true, but they know he has more powers. They just can't get them to manifest. Chandra couldn't find Sylar's original power either, but he had something. --Stabbey 20:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

The latest comic, Road Kill confirms the freezing power. --Stabbey 18:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Another power

Though it wasn't clearly obvious, Sylar might have stolen a power (similar super-speed, flight, or quick teleportation). I notive this in "Homecoming", when Claire and Peter were climbing up the bleachers. When they reached the top Sylar was still at the bottom, yet seconds after Claire leaves you can hear a sort of "whooshing sound" and Sylar is suddenly at the top in front of Peter. He also seems to be much taller than Peter (more like he was floating instead of being naturally taller than Peter). Since this can't be confirmed however, I know it can't be included in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.167.229.159 (talk • contribs).

By using his telekinetic powers on himself, he could theoretically "levitate", right? Perhaps he did this to get to Peter, which would also explain the lack of footsteps while Peter is not looking. Bio 21:00, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

He seems to be able to levitate as when he kills Dale in Unexpected she says she couldn't hear footsteps and he responds by saying "Thats because there wasn't any."

Requested comment

As an summary by another user requests that a comment be made if their edit is reverted,—>.>—I'll be brief. There is no need for the content which I removed. It was redundant and defeated the purpose of the "killings" template. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 19:13, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

How so? I thought the purpose was to create a clear list of the murders that Sylar did and the powers he gained from them and the "notes" section being an additional piece of infomation to help put it into context.dposse 22:53, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

The default "context" is that he killed them. The time is fairly irrelevant and the location of NYC can be assumed. Furthermore, giving them all notes defeats the true purpose of the notes. In most tables like this one, the use of notes is a rarity, not a given. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 02:52, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Chicago Man

I don't believe this man was directly killed by Sylar. He gave the jacket he was wearing to the man and Audrey shot him accidentaly, so Sylar technically didn't kill him, in my opinion. BioYu-Gi!. 3:28, 23 January 2007

I think that they were talking about the body lying dead in the first page, I also belive that the dead guy's name is "David", because if you look closely in that same page a cop is writing that name in a little notebook.

So... does he eat brains or not?

Yes, he does. First of all, check out this page from Sylar's Company medical file. Sylar's LDL and total triglyceride readings are off the chart, to put it mildly (LDL of 190+ and triglycerides of 500+ is the highest level defined). If Sylar were a normal human, his arteries would be clogged to the point of cardiac failure. It just so happens that brains, when eaten, are incredibly high in saturated fat and cholesterol, which directly affects LDL and triglyceride levels in humans. So I think the question of whether or not Sylar actually eats the brains is effectively answered. Revoltingly enough, yes -- he does. Joshualander 10:08, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I haven't listened to the interview yet and don't really have time at the moment. But the article is unclear... is Sylar actually eating the brains and they've deliberately declined to say so on the show, or did they consider having him eat the brains and decided against it?--MythicFox 03:32, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

It's not as it reads; somewhere in the middle. Bryan's statements could imply that it's more the latter, but he chose to disclose this explanation. Furthermore, he made no indication that they have another idea or ever will. Plus, from what I've read on forums, fans knew he ate brains for a while now. If new explanation comes to light, we'll obviously write it up, but take that as the best we'll get for now. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 04:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, just checking. I mean, I personally had a theory he was eating the brains (because it's obvious he's doing something with them such that he doesn't just leave them there), but I was just curious about any sort of official clarification. I wouldn't be surprised if they have it come up on the show just to clarify it.--MythicFox 05:18, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't have the reference, but I could swear I read somewhere that early drafts of the character had him eating the brains, but then it appeared too 'zombie-like' and ghoulish and didn't fit the feel of the show...so that's why it's currently rather ambiguous how he's actually acquiring the abilities. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.112.93.84 (talk) 09:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC).

See the ARG page on Sylar. It says "The specific mechanism of acquiring the powers is uncertain, but requires the removal of the victim’s brain matter" -- maybe he needs to see it, not eat it? This would also explain how he has Eden's power if he does. Even if Eden blew her brains out, there could possibly be enough still left over for him to figure out how her power works. 140.247.147.88 03:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

We've never actually seen Sylar absorb a power except on his own terms... meaning he could be using a tool or chemical. Chemically absorbing the DNA makes the most sense. Certainly, his understanding of "things" would allow for him to have created whatever means he needs to get their DNA into his. He may not have gotten Eden's power because he didn't have the resources availablr to extract it before it was ruined or something. AllUltima 05:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

One writers opinion does not a consensus make. Every person it's been shown that Sylar killed(after getting his TK), he's sawed their head open and removed their brain. Maybe he eats it, maybe he snorts it, maybe he bakes it into a flavorful apple pie. All I'm saying is that as of "Parasite", it MAY have been further illustrated. He says "So I can sink my teeth in". Sylar doesn't strike me as a big symbolist, so I doubt he meant it in any way other than literally.DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC 19:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Bryan Fuller, a lead writer for the show, confirmed in [a podcast] that Sylar does indeed eat brains. However, the crew chose not to show it on screen because they could not figure out a way to avoid it looking comedic. - fmmarianicolon | Talk 20:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I've removed Discord's text as it does not draw on verifiable sources. There may be a way to reword it to avoid speculation, but as is - it is a theory rather than fact. --Ckatz^chat_spy 21:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Discord, your summary note wasn't necessary. As I said above, if reworded the text about the brains might fit in. Your earlier version *was* speculative, and that is why it was removed. Thank you for replacing it with an appropriate version this time, rather than just reinserting the older version. --Ckatz^chat_spy 19:23, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

He studies the brians to find out how their powers work then he manipulates himself to obtain those powers. And if he obtained peters sponge power than he would not have to kill any more people.71.181.181.246 00:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Note also the future paintings show people with their skull open and Sylar seems to be the cause.--Raymm 06:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Eden's death

I added an alternate interpretation of how Sylar managed to resist Eden's command and instead attack her. She told him: "I will give you this gun, and then you will kill yourself with it." Since he attacked her before she could give him the gun, the second part of the command never kicked in.StaffanBaloo 04:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

As per the discussion on the List of characters in Heroes Talk page, I removed speculation regarding both resistance and poorly phrased commands. StaffanBaloo 04:36, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Sylar's revival

Mr. Bennet said that Sylar altered his own DNA to acquire powers. Sylar seemingly "died", then came back to life. I think those are related. This is speculation, but I think Sylar has the biological manipulation Ability - that would let him alter his own DNA, and control his body to fake his death. What do others think? --Stabbey 04:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Biokinesis. Unless they state that directly, we've got nothing. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 21:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Biokinesis is a neologism. Therefore it's never going to get stated directly.Jacobshaven3 11:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Sylar seemingly died, sometime after an insect crawled across his cell bed. It looked like a cockroach, could he have stolen DNA from a cockroach? cockraoches can slow their heartbeats, live without food for long periods of time, are highly resistant to radiation and can stop breathing for long periods of time. 64.231.11.223 03:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree he can take abilities from others why not a coackrach- Red Spider Man 3/1

I also agree, I think this interpretation is intended. Unfortunately, it is impossible to confirm as of now. If it remains permanantly unanswered, then it might be reasonable to eventually add this in as being "hinted at" or something. Hopefully it will eventually be confirmed, though. AllUltima 05:10, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Add column for episodes

I was wondering if we should add a column, in the table about Sylars murders, that show in what episode Sylars murders are in (the viewers sees them). --Jóna Þórunn 11:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Done. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 21:13, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Looks good, thanks. --Jóna Þórunn 23:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Inherent Understanding and Adaptability

In this interview with Bryan Fuller (Already cited on Sylar's page), he says that Sylar's power is an "inherent understing and adaptability", and he was able to use his powers in the cell to kill Eden because he was "playing possum". (The Sylar part of the interview starts at about the 42 minute mark). Given that description, I think that his original ability is comprised of two seperate comic-book superpowers:

Superhuman Intelligence - Sylar has inherent understanding of how things work.

Reactive adaption/Evolution - Sylar can adapt his own body to various conditions. It's on a much more subtle scale then in comic books, granted, but it's pretty close.

Thoughts? --Stabbey 13:26, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, he only has the one power, but I guess you could split it into two parts, like how Hiro can teleport, travel through time, and manipulate time, yet it's all classed as space time manipulation. He isn't superhumanly intelligent though, he just knows he things work on a subconscious level. Mixed with his newly aquired eidetic memory however, he could become super humanly intelligent. Jacobshaven3 13:53, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

The current "Intuitive Aptitude" listed on Sylar's page sounds good enough. --Stabbey 18:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

He's also pretty good at fixing watches.--Raymm 06:25, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

The low raspy voice

I think it's a bit early to presume Eden's power was stolen. According to the comic, Mr. Bennet and the Haitian burst in on him right after that incident and tranquilized him. Furthermore, during the 30 seconds or so that Mrs. Bennet was lying on the floor, everything was moving in slow-motion, and the clock ticking itself was slowed. This could simply be for effect as Mrs. Bennet is on the ground, stunned; this resembles the "shellshock" effect seen in various WWII films and games, where a nearby explosion causes one's senses to blur and time "slows down". Big Head Zach 15:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. If Sylar had Eden's power he would have used it on Sandra or someone else. Also I'll note that Sylar in Peter's dream in Fallout also used a similar raspy voice. I think he was just trying to be as scary as possible to Sandra. --Stabbey 19:51, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

It wasn't a "shellshock effect", it was a slo-mo sequence intended to make the event more suspenseful. His voice isn't any more raspy than usual, it's just deepened because it's time stretched. 89.172.5.214 01:27, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

In any case, do we agree that this was _not_ a manifestation of Eden's power? If I remember correctly, he didn't say anything persuasive while his voice was altered. I think we should edit the "in Eden's usual fashion" bit out, but want a consensus before doing so. Valaqil 17:54, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

This interview confirms it wasn't Eden's power. It was just how it came out as a result of slowing the scene down. --Stabbey 18:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

In the episode "Run!", when Sylar arrives on Zane Taylor's doorstep, Zane asks "Dr. Suresh?". Sylar answers "Yes." Zane stares at Sylar blankly. Sylar says "Yes" a second time, a little deeper (but not by much). Zane instantly responds and lets Sylar inside. Aborlan 03:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

He does not say it 'lower', he says it 'softer' and more in the manner of Dr. Suresh. The confusion on Taylor's part was the difference in the voice on his answering machine from when Suresh first troed to contact him, and the voice/mannerism of the man that shows up on his doorstep. Once Sylar softens his voice Taylor is able to convince himself that this man really is Suresh. Taylor convinced himself, it was nothing Sylar did (power-wise) to influence him. Seriously, this is a dead horse, folks. Eden blew her brains out specifically to prevent Sylar from getting her power. Her sacrifice was dead-on, and she knew it. --Bill W. Smith, Jr. (talk/contribs) 15:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

The horse is in critical condition ;) Aborlan 17:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Seems the writers have pulled a fast one, as in .07% he clearly tries to use Eden's power, although it seems that his version is not as irresistable as hers was. Perhaps this is due to the damaged condition of her brain when he ate it? --Bill W. Smith, Jr. (talk/contribs) 06:45, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

According to the 11th graphic novel, "[Eden] gave her life to keep a depraved and dangerous man from gaining her gift." This, combined with the above-mentioned interview, clearly proves that Sylar does not have Eden's power. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 15:37, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps the voice should still be listed as a power, just with an unknown effect. It may or may not be Eden's power, but we have seen a few different instances where Sylar has drastically deepened his voice, seemingly for intimidation, and I remember at least one instance where Peter did the same thing after gaining the ability to use all his previous powers. I think that, for now, the voice should be mentioned as a possible power, just one that we don't know the effect of yet. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.121.122.220 (talk) 20:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC).

Reference to the Zodiac killer?

I heard that the Zodiac Killer got his name from a watch, just like how Gabriel got his new name from a watch as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.230.163.153 (talk) 06:11, 13 February 2007 (UTC).

As far as I was aware the Zodiac Killer called himself it as a clue to the fact he killed people on astrologically important days, or did I read that incorrectly? Jacobshaven3 13:48, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

"possible powers" section

Someone (or several people?) keep adding a heavily speculative "possible powers" section. In addition to disrupting the flow of the article with a large heading, this section is pre speculation and OR. Are there any steps that can be taken to stop this person (blocking, page locking, etc?)? - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 01:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

If it continues, it might require seeking a block on that IP. The anon in question is continually adding speculative text that has now been removed by several different editors. --Ckatz^chat_spy 08:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Why was my addition of the "Sanity" section removed?

My edits have been removed after being deemed "speculation" How is my post speculation? It uses facts that have been presented in the series. -- Psi edit 05:29, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

because its speculation... -Xornok 05:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

The reason is because, although you have presented actual material, you've deducted whether it's true or not yourself, and "filled inn the gaps" so to speak. If someone has said "Sylar is possibly mentally unstable" in the series then it's possible to put down, but if you need to put your own thought at all into an edit then it's WP:OR and Speculation. Jacobshaven3 09:51, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Didn't Mr. Bennet comment on his sanity once? -- Psi edit 17:57, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

you tells us. give us which episode and when he said it... -Xornok 21:23, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

The episode in which he's first locked up in the cell. "I think you're insane. The infusion of so much foreign DNA has corrupted your mind." I believe the line went something, if not exactly, like that. So the "sanity" section should now be returned, Xornok, given that I was able to state the episode and the line. Kthxbai. 59.100.3.78 12:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

um, no not really, we cant cite "i believe the line went something like that". we need exact episode and when it was said, not just some random guess... -Xornok 14:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Fine Xornok, fine. Since you're going to be that elitist, I will quote episode name, episode number, exact line, and the exact time in the episode. Here goes.

  Episode 11 - "Fallout"
  Mr Bennet: "It's important to you, isn't it? Being special?"
  Sylar: "It's important to everyone."
  Mr Bennet: "I think you're insane.  I think the infusion of so many alterations to your DNA has corrupted your mind.  All this power is degrading you."

That exchange takes place 8 minutes and 40 seconds into the episode.

Is that exact enough for you? Is that able to be cited? Or do you need the frame numbers that book-end that scene as well? 59.100.3.78 13:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Looks like this is covered under Sylar#Personality. -MrFizyx 13:10, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Bennet's comment also doesn't support the text that was added. All it reveals is that Bennet questioned Sylar's sanity. The disputed material went much, much farther:

"It i s unknown if Sylar is currently mentally "sane". The room with scrawls on it that Mohinder found points to him being very well insane, though it is unknown if they point to his religion (as the writing "Forgive me father for I have sinned" refers to a Christian confessional). The only other regard for his snaity is seen in his talk with Mohinder in the episode "Run" (currently under the alias "Zane Taylor") in which he describes to Mohinder and experience in which he feels "totally out of body" and "close to god"."

It's still all speculation. --Ckatz^chat_spy 17:45, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Claire

Is it too speculative for now to mention something along the lines of that Sylar wanted Claire's ability so that, coupled with his own current regeneration, his would be enhanced into a practically invincible state, something like Superman? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goroloiath (talk • contribs) 2007-02-19 (UTC)

Yes. --Kmsiever 17:01, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. My bad with the unsigned comment thing. Goroliath

Motivation

Would like to see something on Sylar's motivations. A couple of times he has implied that the killings are part of an evolutionary imperative. In the episode "Run!", while posing as Zane Taylor, he describes having an epiphany about his (Taylor's?) ability, and asks Mohinder if he is familiar with Abraham Maslow and the "peak experience". There is some interesting phychology going on with the character if someone can find the right way to write about it. -MrFizyx 00:32, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

If you have sourced information regarding his motivations, please add it. Keep in mind that what he told Mohinder may be part of a ruse and he didn't actually have an epiphany. --Kmsiever 19:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Lacking any real source, seems someone has reasonably covered this already under: Sylar#Personality. -MrFizyx 19:34, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

List of Powers

Changed "Atomic Liquification" to "Molecular Manipulation". Atomic liquification implies liquefying atoms which is incorrect. The power is the ability to control the inter-atomic and inter-molecular bonds of a solid object, thus, molecular manipulation. Given that there's also no exchange of heat or visible exchange of energy, I'd say my edit makes this powers' description far more accurate. 203.14.180.98 07:28, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Charlie Didn't Get Absorbed

Now seriously, her power didn't get absorbed! Hiro changed the past which lead Charlie to an earlier death. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.80.122.234 (talk) 06:25, 26 February 2007 (UTC).

If your theory was correct, then most things that happened before Hiro traveled back in time would not have happened, and the story would not make sense. Besides, apparently the comic reveals his use of Charlie's memory. Bio 18:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I could be totally off-base, but, it appears, from what _I_ remember of Six Months Ago that Charlie simply told Hiro that she would die soon because of the whatever-it-was. He felt sad, they tried to kiss, and he disappeared. The result that I arrived at was that he left her there and, as a result, she died again. Regardless of how it happened, the comic does reveal that Sylar took it. See "Road Kill": "Soon after I killed her, I don't know...I just seem to be remembering things lately." AFAIK, that's canon. Valaqil 15:10, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Plus theres a scene with Charlie bleeding down her forehead, a Sylar signature, I believe.--Raymm 06:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

POWER LEFT OUT

The episode the Fix, does Sylar display the power to make himself appear dead, and then resurrect himself later? 66.109.248.114

That could be another power or it could simply be another use of one of the powers we already know he has. It could also just be bad doctoring. We don't know enough to put it in the article. --dws90 16:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Drew Grady?

When does Sylar take this alias? can we get a source on that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.189.155.40 (talk) 11:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC).

The proper alias is Drew O'Grady, according to "Road Kill", page four. http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/downloads/Heroes_novel_020.pdf I'll add it in. Valaqil 15:36, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Spolier Warnings PLEASE!!!

If someone is going to post detailed descriptions of episodes which have not aired, PLEASE insert a spoiler warning immediately ahead of the material- the one at the top of the page is not adequate. I went to this page for a little information and found the entire plot for the March 5th episode revealed only hours before I could watch it. Saxophobia 01:14, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

That's not how spoiler tags work... The entire page can be considered spoiler material if you haven't watched any of the episodes, hence the tag at the top of the page. --Pentasyllabic 02:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

The episode first aired on March 4th... in Canada. If the page included information for episodes that had *not* aired, that would indeed be rather lame. There does seem to be a lot of douchebags here at Wikipedia intent on ruining other people's enjoyment. (ie: editing all the '24' character pages a month and half prior to the premiere) But as it is, I think this case is fair game. 75.162.21.161 03:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Sylar can talk to pets!

Lets not forget how Sylar was talking to Mr. Muggles when he was at Claire's house. This must be another random power he got somewhere along the line. Sure, we don't know the full extent/nature of this power, but it obviously is a power and its existence is clear enough to be mentioned (in my opinion). AllUltima 04:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

you can be serious... my mom talks to our dog all the time, so what? -Xornok 05:11, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay I watched it again and i suppose it cannot be confirmed that he was actually getting a response. Sylar's acting seemed to indicate that he was able to understand Mr. Muggles. I guess this is at best implied so.. never mind AllUltima 06:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Though that would be another interesting power, it's mostly just that people talk to pets. Plus, remember, the guy's bat-guano crazy. --Valley2city^₪‽ 06:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Sound Manipulation?

Could Sylar have the power of Sound manipulation? During the struggle between Peter and Isaac in Unexpected, Peter shouts, causing a shock wave to send Isaac flying backwards, reminiscent of Coach Boomer in Sky High. One can only assume that he had absorbed that power from Sylar during their initial meeting, yet neither Sylar's nor Peter's page mention this as a potential power. What you you think? 198.109.96.35 16:10, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, maybe not. Under Talk:Peter Petrelli this has already been discussed as either telekenesis, or related to a brief encounter between Peter and Eden. Sorry, I should have read more, first. 198.109.96.31 16:18, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

No, he does not have that ability. There is an interview with Joe Pokaski and Aron Coleite(writers for Heroes) stating that Peter's shout was _just_ a voice effect. The writers say that it is "coolness factor". Read it for yourself: http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9817

Eden killed herself to prevent Sylar from getting her power. She succeeded. IF Peter displays Eden's ability at a later point, he did not get it from Sylar. Valaqil 19:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

In episode 14 Sylar uses a voice effect to say "Hi". I assumed that the voice effect was some random, useless power he picked up in the past, and that Peter inhereted it from him. Based on Sylar's and Peter's usage of this effect it would seem certain that the power exists, but... if the creators are just adding in random SFX that seem like powers but aren't then who knows. AllUltima 01:51, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Cryokinesis

The official NBC site Activating Evolution states in its wiki section that the freezing power, Cryokinesis, was originally possessed by James Walker. It's an NBC run site, so it is an official source. I was going to add it in, but someone left a comment not to, so I wanted to start a consensus first in case there is a legitimate reason to leave it out.  Anticrash  talk  06:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

It's an NBC-run site, but anyone can edit that wiki. I don't have a feeling on it one way or another, but I have seen some comment that we should avoid using information from other wikis since unverified information can be added into them. Valaqil 15:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

It's a wiki, but more than that, James walker was frozen solid whilst eating, unless Sylar already had the power, how could he do that before killing James? Jacobshaven3 13:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Stop him in place with TK then aquire the power then freeze him as a result of not being able to control his powers (Sylar usually has a minute or two where he can't quite get a grip on the new power). It's entirely possible to freeze someone AFTER aquiring the power. Padillah 17:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

"Give me that damn list so I can save my...!"?

In the latest episode, after Mohinder asks Sylar "Then what would you have me do?" after Sylar mentioned that he "didn't ask for any of this," the latter told the former (whilst being confined to the chair; this took place for 19 seconds past the 29-minute mark):

"Help find a way...give me salvation...[shouts] give me that damn list so I can save my...!"

I didn't catch that last part (that's why I left it in ellipses). I obviously wouldn't do this if it didn't have any significance. However, what strike me as most interesting was that after Sylar's finished saying the quote above, a teardrop came out of one of his eyes. A REAL teardrop. It looked so real to me, so now I'm all the more curious as to the last part of what he said above and if it's going to have any significance or not to the situation in which he said it. Aymanazlan 20:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

It goes like this:

Suresh: "What would you have me do?"

Sylar: "Help find a way...give me salvation...give me that damn list so I can sink my teeth in!"

- SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 23:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

So the tear drop was anticipation of juicy powerfilled brains to dine on.--Raymm 06:35, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Liquidation

As far as I can tell, sylar's "liquidation" ability is not that broad, all of the objects that he turns to "liquid" (and the person that he takes the power from) are metal, and from what i can tell these pools of liquid then solidify. I'm wondering if this ability is really just the ability to manipulate the structure of a metal object, but sylar hasn't learned to control it fully yet.

Admittedly, there is no counter-evidence to suggest that he can't turn other objects to liquid, i'm just saying that it seems to be the only thing that he targets.

Yelirekim 01:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

There is counter-evidence. Watch the original scene with Zane. There are multiple melted items, including, if I am not mistaken, a plastic phone. Valaqil 15:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

In the wizard world interview it says peter has all of sylar's power and on of the script reads said "yeah now Peter can melt metal"- RED 4/4

Unofficial deaths?

Technically, Sylar DID kill Peter, though he regenerated later. I suppose Isaac wouldn't be counted as this was in the "future", but it's still him killing.211.30.223.128 12:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Did this really happen?

There is a whole paragraph in this article, which I think never really happened in the series, and so should be deleted. The paragraph in question is located under the topic called "1.5 Roaming Again":

While on the run once more, the bullet wounds annoy Sylar. He notes that things would be easier if he had Claire Bennet's healing factor. To go "north" and out of "Podunk, Texas," Sylar hitches a ride with a semi-truck driver. After realizing the driver is really heading West, Sylar kills him and hijacks the delivery truck. Police eventually follow Sylar, but he easily escapes them by using his powers to put ice on the road and then jump/fly out of the truck as it crashes over the embankment. Sylar also notes that he is down to the last person he can remember from Chandra's list. Thus, he ends up at the home of this person, and the events of "Run!" begin.

Alondono 02:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

It's in one of the Heroes graphic novels. --Pentasyllabic 05:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

telekinies

when Sylar uses telekinies he mostly uses his fingure to direct the object movement, but when peter uses telekinies he doesn't have to move a fingure. So would the finger movement mean Sylar needs help to direct his power or its a stronger way or he just likes to move his fingur?- Red 4/3 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.16.89.117 (talk) 21:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

He probably just likes to do it. It's a relatively easy way to focus on what he's doing. Valaqil 13:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

David credited with Cold Manipulation

In the table in the sub-section "Killings", David (from Chicago) is credited with having the power of Cold Manipulation. The footnote, from what I could tell, doesn't cite where this was power was confirmed to belong to David. The Graphic Novel of his death doesn't confirm this. Is this power entry simply speculation? If there is confirmation, it should be noted. Hiro DynoSlayer 21:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

That is definitely speculation. It has not been revealed, and has been removed. Thanks for the watchful eye. Valaqil 21:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

They did it again. I'll get it. Padillah 13:40, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Tk vs Pk

Should Sylar's power of Telekinesis be changed to Psychokinesis, which is apparently the preferred terminology in use on Wikipedia? After all, Tk just redirects straight to Pk anyways WookMuff 10:10, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Although I agree that psychokinesis would be a better term to use, as far as I'm aware that it's consensus to use the term "telekinetic" when describing fiction unless psychokinesis is used in the text. Jacobshaven3 13:26, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

The Voice, Part Two

It really looks like he used Eden's voice power on Isaac Mendez in 0.07. Odd, especially since Eden shot herself in the brain to avoid having her power absorbed by Sylar. Kimera757 03:00, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Other information indicates that he eats the brains of his victims. Now, unless by some magic he can swallow a whole brain without damage, he'll probably need to chew it. Maybe a bullet hole through a brain doesn't destroy whatever it is that he needs (the DNA?)Smiley1437 04:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Several previously cited references prove she stopped him from taking her power. Notice Isaac never told Sylar, no matter what Sylar said. It's used as emphasis that he's angry. The editors think it's "cool". How many times is this going to need to be repeated? Jacobshaven3 13:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

In addition, Sylar was subdued before he had any chance to cut open her head. There is absolutely no proof he absorbed her power and substantial evidence that implies he did not. In addition, Eden didn't have a voice power; she had a mind control power. --Kmsiever 14:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

She had a mind control power that relied upon her voice. He eats brains, not 'living brains', and absorbs the genetic material. as such, a few chunks picked off the glass would suffice. Given his oft portrayed lust for more powers, I can't see that being beyond his 'morality' to eat a brain in pieces. Until there's a citation that he doesn't have the power, all the evidence given in the series goes to a common sense decision that it IS her power. ThuranX 13:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

As I already stated, Sylar was subdued before he had any chance to do anything to Eden. If he indeed absorbs power by eating brains, then he doesn't have Eden's power because he did not eat her brain. He didn't even cut open her head. --Kmsiever 13:53, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

He clearly has not absorbed her power. Everyone should re-watch the episode Unexpected, and take note of the fact that Peter's voice also gets deeper when he uses telekinesis to send Isaac flying backwards into some of his paintings. Also, in the episode Parasite (and in the repetition of the same footage in .07%), Sylar's voice goes deep again when he says "I remember you." But, the deepness of voice is allegedly only attached to the Eden's power. But what Sylar said was not a command of any kind. He does not have Eden's power.GraniteJJ 01:03, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

'the brain man'

Hiro and Ando refer to Sylar as the brain man in .07%. can we use this to supplement the 'he eats brains' thing? ThuranX 13:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

No... he uses the brains in some fashion, but he doesn't necessarily eat them. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 14:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. Hiro saw Isaac's brain cut out in the future, and Charlie's brain scooped out in the present. I think Hiro calls him the Brain Man because he takes brains (Hiro has not witnessed the telekinesis), just like he calls Nathan Petrelli the Flying Man because he flies. Hiro could really use a lesson in his fellow heroes' names.GraniteJJ 01:07, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

He eats brains. It's stated in a comic pod casts interview. However, it's not been shown on screen to avoid zombie comparisons. It should only be included if shown on screen, or if in a Trivia section. Regardless, it's not integral to the article whether he eats the brains or not. Jacobshaven3 01:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Sylar does not have Eden's power

Ok. I know it's a popular theory. But several interviews have stated now that the deep voice is not him using Eden's power, but a "cool" effect used by the editors. I'll add citations but if people would just look in the archives it would already be obvious. Even without the citation as proof, when Isaac is questioned by Sylar using the "cool" voice effect, Isaac doesn't tell him, even after extreme torture. If Sylar had Eden's power, he wouldn't need to do any of the stuff he needs to do. He'd be able to stop people with a single phrase, ask them to stop breathing, etc... Mr. Bennett told Eden's father that she was a Hero and that her death wasn't in vain. If Sylar had gotten her power how would this be true? Jacobshaven3 01:19, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

One need only read this article to see he did not acquire her power. "While he informs her that her power will help him immensely, she points the gun to her own head and fires, killing herself and preventing Sylar from acquiring her power. Bennet and the Haitian then rush into the cell and subdue him with a tranquillizer gun." He never had a chance. He was subdued right after Eden shot herself. --Kmsiever 01:53, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Future

Under the future tag, I'm pretty sure the power that Peter was using was Ted Sprague's radioactivity, and not the simple flame creation of Merideth Gordon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.100.77.76 (talk) 03:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC).

Cannibal?

I noticed that Sylar is categorized on Wikipedia as a "Fictional Cannibal". Whatever he does with brains, should that be considered cannibalism. He isn't eating people, is he? Actually we've never actually seen what he has done after he started to, um, remove their craniums. --Valley2city^₪‽ 06:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

There's been no confirmation that he's actualy eating the brains. It's been left ambigious on purpose. I think that category should be removed.--Piemanmoo 19:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

In the episode .07% at the end where Sylar's painting you can see clearly that Sylar's hands are caked with blood while there's none on his face. I'd say that they've dropped that idea now. Cherries Jubilee 23:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Nope, I'm sad to say they haven't dropped the idea. Molly Walker confirmed that Sylar eats his victims' brains in "The Hard Part." Arwen undomiel 02:18, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but she confirms that the childhood monster "the boogyman" eats brains. Being a child I'm not certain she was referring to Sylar actually eating the brains or doing something she doesn't understand with them (so she calls it eating). But, I have to weigh this against my abject dislike of the corny idea of eating brains and getting powers from it. I think it's stupid and silly and am trying hard to keep from having to believing it, so I may be biased. Padillah 13:19, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I think it's stupid too, but Molly is definately referring to Sylar as "the boogyman."

Suresh: Molly, I want to stop the man who hurt your family, who tried to hurt you.
Molly: You can't stop the boogyman. He sees into your soul and then he eats your brain.
Suresh: Well, you know who can stop the boogyman? You. I hear you have an amazing ability...the boogyman, he likes to hide, but if you can tell us where he is, we can make sure he never comes back again.

Molly and Suresh are talking about Sylar, and she is saying Sylar eats his victims' brains. Arwen undomiel 20:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, Molly is talking about Sylar, but she is still a little kid and she still called him the boogeyman and said that he "sees into your soul." I wouldn't take her word at face value, especially when there is clear physical evidence to the contrary (no blood on his face after taking Isaac's power).

It's true we don't see blood on Sylar's face after he kills Isaac, but that doesn't mean he didn't eat the brain. In fact, I'm not sure we saw any blood on Sylar at all when he was painting in Isaac's apartment: his hands might have been dripping red paint, not blood. I can see why you say we shouldn't take Molly's words at face value, but it's pretty hard to misconstrue Sylar picking up her dad's brain and putting it in his mouth as something else. Arwen undomiel 22:08, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

It sure looked like blood on Sylar's hands. His painting didn't have all that much red in it, so there would be no reason for it to be exclusively red. Besides, Peter didn't have any red paint on his hands when he finished Isaac's painting in episode 5, and 70% of his section was a giant smear of red paint. Molly's probably imagining most of her description. What could she possibly have seen that would make her think Sylar "saw into your soul?" And I highly doubt she would have stayed long enough to see what Sylar did with the brains. I don't know about you, but if I was a little kid and a strange man burst through the door, telekinetically pinned my mom against the wall, froze my dad solid, and starting cutting off the top of his head, I wouldn't wait around to see what he did next, I'd run away as fast as I could. If she had stuck around, Sylar would have easily caught her, and she wouldn't have had a chance to hide. 24.252.87.219 22:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

This is a paragraph straight from Sylar's article:

When Sylar first meets Chandra Suresh six months prior to the series' starting point, he describes having intuitive aptitude, the ability of knowing how things work by looking at them. This ability to see and manipulate patterns within complex systems made him an expert watchmaker, as he could discern any problems with any given watch almost instantly. Upon meeting Brian Davis and learning of his telekinetic abilities, he was able to see the genetic difference in Davis. He promised to "fix" what Davis perceived as a problem and killed him.

This might explain why Molly said Sylar looks into people's souls--he is searching for their genetic difference before he kills them. Arwen undomiel 23:48, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but how could she possibly know that? You can't tell that he's doing that just by looking at him. Especially if you're a little kid and you're panicking and running away. 24.252.87.219 23:57, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

But until we get hard, complete confirmation that Sylar actualy eats the brains, rather than just being implied, we can't classify him as a cannibal.--Piemanmoo 01:22, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Fuller says that "[Sylar] kills people and he eats their brains and he, like, digests their power." That's your confirmation. Even if unstated in the series, the writers explain in no uncertain terms what he does. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 02:10, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Listen to the podcast that that quote came from. What Fuller says is that their original concept was that he ate brains, but that they found that whenever they brought up that idea in the writers room, everyone started giggling and saying "braaaaaaaaains," so they decided to leave it vague and just say that he could see how things work. I took that to mean that they had decided against the idea but hadn't thought of something to replace it at the time. And besides, that interview was conducted back in December, so it doesn't reflect the current intent of the writers. 24.252.87.219 02:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

You don't know the writers have changed their minds. In fact, it's quite clear they've decided to just outright state it through Molly. It's not up to us to decide whether her comment is to be taken at face value or not. The fact remains that the writers gave an explanation and she confirms it. He is a cannibal unless they specifically deny that Sylar eats brains, which they have not. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 03:00, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Again I ask you to listen to the podcast. The full quote is, "Well, basically, what we've always talked about in the writers staff is that he kills people, eats their brains, and digests their power...His power, we've kept a little vague because we were worried about the potential silliness of talking about someone eating someone's brains. We don't want to cross the line of absurdity, we want to dance along it without saying he eats brains. Because every time we brought that up, someone would go off on a zombie rant. So we tried to circumvent that and keep his power more mysterious. But basically, the idea is that his power is an inherent understanding of how things work, so when he first met his victim he understood, 'Oh! That's how this works, and if I-for me to absorb that power...'" It's far from specifically stating that he eats brains. And yes, it does have to be decided if something can be taken at face value, because you simply cannot take everything at face value. Otherwise we would have to state that Sylar is the boogeyman. It's clear that Molly's statement was at least partially a little girl's imagination. And why would they make a point of showing blood caked onto Sylar's hand but not onto his face if he had recently eaten a brain? Anyway, the fact is that it has not been clearly confirmed that he is a cannibal, therefore calling him one is speculation. 24.252.87.219 03:38, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

As you keep quoting, they simply avoid saying it because it sounds silly. The explanation is still there, and Molly's statement backs it up. Even if Molly sees him as the boogeyman, she still saw him do it. Her rationalization of the killer's identiy aside, there's no reason why she'd say such a thing unless she saw him do it. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 03:48, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Nobody has confirmed that Sylar does eat brains, and nobody confirms that he hasn't. It's been left ambigious on purpose for a long time. If they were going to reveal that he did eat brains, I doubt they would reveal it by some little girl's sly remark. If anything, Sylar is a possible cannibal. So until we see proof, it's ludicrous to assume anything. --Piemanmoo 07:07, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Identity of the Bomb

"The graphic novel "String Theory" revealed that, in the original timeline of the series, before Hiro attempted to alter it, Sylar was originally the "exploding man" who would decimate New York." I disagree with this sentence. The novel is from Hiro's view; all it shows is that Hiro believes that Sylar was the bomb. In the altered timeline where Claire is alive, this is shown to be a common but incorrect view. It's quite possible that the bomb in both the original and altered timeline was Peter.--Trystan 15:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Hiro stabbed Sylar, but because Sylar had Claires regeneration he survived. This no longer happened. However, Peter did become the bomb. Hiro was there when Sylar exploded, so I'd say it's safe to believe him. Jacobshaven3 20:32, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

The way I interpreted it is the same as Jacobshaven3. Since Claire is still alive and Peter, not Sylar is the bomb, this would indicate that the timeline future-Hiro returns to is no longer his "original" timeline but rather the "real" timeline of the show. One thing I'm wondering about is why Hiro still needs to kill Sylar, as shown in the 9th Wonders issue from the future, given that future-Hiro's actions caused Peter and not Sylar to become the bomb. --Pentasyllabic 22:56, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm wondering this myself. But there's also the effect of having Sylar to blame and having Sylar (as Nathan) stir up hatred and bigotry. I don't think Sylar needs to be killed because he's the bomb but rather because his powers and influence caused the situation we see in Five Years Gone. Padillah 12:37, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Candice Wilmer: Spelling

Several occurrences of "Candice Wilmer" in the article have been changed to Candace Willmer, breaking a couple of links. Is there a source we could use to determine the correct spelling?--Trystan 15:29, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

According to NBC'c official recap, "Claire pays a surprise visit to Mr. Bennett's prison cell at Primatech Paper, though he's quick to recognize that it's really Candice, the illusion caster." Is that good enough? Several other recaps: [1], [2], [3], [4], and [5] all spell her name 'Candice". - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 16:14, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Cryokinesis in "Five Years Gone"

A survey regarding the verifiability of these powers has begun here. --Ckatz^chat_spy 23:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I've noticed that people keep removing any mention that it is cryrokinesis Sylar is using in the fight with Peter. In the weekly Q&A (Behind the Eclipse) with writers/producers Joe Pokaski and Aron Coleite, they confirm that we see Sylar use this power at some point in this episode. It's fairly obvious that this is the scene they are referring to.

Jason Fleiss has also been enjoying the online graphic novels and asks, "Early in the season, we saw at least one of Sylar's victims had been frozen, and we've seen Sylar use this ability in the online graphic novels. Will we ever get to see Sylar use his freezing ability onscreen?"

We'll see a little tease of Sylar's freezing power in episode 20, "Five Years Gone," but it ain't nothing compared to what we see him do with it in episode 21, "The Hard Part."

Ryan 19:19, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

According to WP:V, an external source has to verify that that scene was in fact the cryokinesis. It is also still unknown that cryokinesis cam from Walker. It may seem obvious, but WP:V insists that an external source verify it, rather than drawing conclusions (even "obvious" ones, unless it is explicitly stated in the show, such as Nathan flying) ourselves. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 01:35, 3 May 2007 (UTC) - Retracted - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 03:10, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Cryokinesis is a neologism. Cold Manipulation is the correct term. Regardless, Walker was killed by being frozen, thus he can't possibly have had the power, unless his head was chopped off whilst he ate, then he was frozen. Jacobshaven3 01:54, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Um, why is being new regarded as "bad"? We can't use reletivly new words to describe things in Wikipedia? Just because it's the new term doesn't mean it's incorrect. Cryokinesis is just as correct as Pyrokinesis. Padillah 12:42, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I am pro neologisms, however wikipedia policy, WP:NEO, is against them. We had a lengthy debate a while back at List of comic book superpowers and had to change all our powers to non neologisms. Jacobshaven3 17:14, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't see how the ice and fog effects which are used to depict the cryokinesis power are any less obvious than Nathan's flying power.--Trystan 04:42, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not referring to the debate about who the power came from. My concern is the the fact that it is indeed this particular power used in the scene where Sylar faces off with Peter. There seems to be an ongoing battle about whether or not it is a freezing power or simply "an energy based power" as it says now. Ryan 05:35, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Sylar's hands simply turned blue. Sprague's EMP effect looked similar. Peter's hand glowed orange, which looked like Sprague's normal radiation effect. Maybe it was two types of radiation, or may it was fire and ice. Until an outside source verifies one, we can't put it in the article. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 06:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC) - Retracted - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 03:10, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

People need to open their eyes. Gabriel's hands did not simply "turn blue". He also lowered the temperature of the surrounding air. And Peter's hands were engulfed in flame a la the Human Torch. I have your proof. Look at the damn photo for 5 years gone. It clearly shows Peter's hands on fire and Gabriel's hands chilling the surrounding air. Common sense is not outlawed on Wikipedia, though many people like to pretend it is. Did you see the episode in HD? It becomes even more clear. Should we write that we're unsure how Gabriel pulled Peter through the door? Are we sure it was phasing? What if he created a wormhole on each side of the door and used that? Can you prove he phased? --Billywhack 02:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Also Ted's EMP looks NOTHING like what Gabriel's hands do in the episode. Billywhack 02:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

*sigh* Fine. Upon further review, it does indeed appear that your description is accurate. Just don't attribute the cryokinesis to James Walker. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 03:10, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree that nobody can say where he got the cryo power from yet. Billywhack 03:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Second "Power Box"

It seems unnecessary to me for this article to have a second box showing the powers he has in the alternate time-line, as there is a paragraph above it that states the same thing. It just appears redundant. Similar to this, I've noticed that the other skills sections is a shorter, less detailed version of Names and Aliases. Briememory 02:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I merged "other skills" with "Names and aliases". - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 03:51, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Occupation: Serial Killer?

I made the change, taking it off, and it was already put back. No desire to get into a revert war. "Occupation" as used a person's template on Wikipedia means their employment. For any example, look at a famous killer's page (such as Charles Manson, David Berkowitz, Harold Shipman, etc.), the occupation listed, where one is, is always a person's employment status. Yes, a dictionary definition of the word will include both "a person's usual or principal work or business" and "any activity in which a person is engaged." But there are also many more definitions. In the context of these articles, occupation equals employment. 160.39.30.190 04:46, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't know whether it's semantically correct or not, but it does offer useful information about the character, which seems like the most important thing.--Trystan 04:49, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, it does say that he's a serial killer in the first line of the article. This isn't that important to me, so if the consensus is to keep it I won't bring it up again. Just pointing out that stylistically in Wikipedia that spot is used for a person's employment. 160.39.30.190 04:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm with 160.39.30.190, "serial killer" is not an occupation. It may be what occupies his time but it is not an occupation by any streach. Padillah 12:45, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

"Eventually, Sylar became a notorious serial killer" How do we know he became notorious?--Raymm 06:20, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I would say it's fair in the future he became considered (erroneously) a notorious mass murderer. Billywhack 04:11, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Simultaneous use of powers

Should it be noted that Sylar was above to use multiple powers simultaneously? (For example, he flew while maintaining the illusion of Nathan's appearance.) - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 23:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

5 years gone powers?

if eden prevented sylar getting her powers by severe, direct brain trauma how does he have the power to persuade? also if DL was alive in "5 years gone", how did sylar walk through a wall?

thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.225.71.163 (talk) 05:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC).

I don't think he does have the power to persuade, and I don't see anywhere claiming that D.L. was alive in this episode. -- Chuq (talk) 05:45, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I am going to set my reminder for tonight and rewatch "5 years gone" I am not quite convinced he got the "phasing" abilities from D.L. I see nothing that says only one person in the world has a given power. In fact that seems counter-intuitive (but I want to prove it first). Padillah 13:14, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

When Future Hiro and Ando were talking to Bennet, Future Hiro said he wanted Candace, DL and Molly Walker. Thats another point, if Candace is alive, how can Sylar create illusions... Thanks— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.71.163 (talk • contribs) 13:20, May 4, 2007 (UTC)

Bennet simply didn't know that those people died. Peter specifically stated that DL had died. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 22:29, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Point taken, but also Hiro specifically said he helped protect them to Bennet. Regardless, Peter said he died in the explosion, not by murder. Hopefully they explain this soon.

Hiro said he brought them to be protected, but Bennett later stated that he turns over the "dangerous" ones to Homeland Security. If that's what he did to Candice and D.L. then they likely were killed while being held. Jshatch 05:14, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Future Hiro didn't know that he altered the future even more when he went back 5 years because in the beganing of % years in the future he asked the present Hiro why he's there, so the time line is altered more-RREDD13 00:39, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Survey re: powers in "Five Years Gone"

A survey regarding the verifiability of these powers has begun here. --Ckatz^chat_spy 23:39, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

And it has been settled, whether you and Matthew want to admit it or not. Billywhack 02:41, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

In " The Hardest Part" the scene where Sylar kills his mother during a scuffle by stabbing her with a pair of scissors is very similar to the story of alleged serial killer Henry Lee Lucas. Lucas stabbed and killed his mother with a pocket knife during a scuffle in which he was trying to convince his mother to go back home and leave him alone(as opposed to Sylar who just wanted to come home and be accepted by his mother)also, Sylar kills people and eats their brains while Lucas claimed to have killed hundreds of women and then having sex with them.Rbreli 02:46, 9 May 2007 (UTC)