Talk:Monsters of Rock

Monsters Of Flop

could someone with more expereance please re-phrase the first four paragraph's of this article- i think it should be re-phrased to - monsters of rock saying how it's a british festival that was branched to other countrys, who cureently owns it why it, is no longer held at donnington has the downloadd festival taken over? is it just a replacement for a new era of rock music, has the monsters of rock - name been relegated is it still the amazing festival it once was. what confuses me is both download and monsters are very similar was there any need to split it into 2 festivals, there both produced by live nation is this just a ploy to grab more cash? 16:21, 3 April 2006 (UTC)17:19, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

That's a bit of a tidyup, but there's still quite a lot to do, including getting the lineups sorted out. The Download festival website has a list at http://www.downloadfestival.co.uk/festival_history/history_of_lineup.asp. --mh. 21:51, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Tidy of line-ups

Did a big tidy of the line-ups (of the UK festivals anyway) so they all in a similar format and include the dates. Also did a few minor edits and added a link to a report on the 1988 incident when two fans died.

I think this section (from 1986 line-up) isn't very neutral and could do with an overhaul:

"The main event belonged to German-rockers Scorpions, who were still riding on the tail of their successful 1985 World Wide Live Tour (promoting their 1984 album Love at First Sting) during the heigh of the Hard Rock/Heavy Metal rock style. That was the era referred as "innocent yet skillful" hard rock, where live performances used to rule over studio over-producing. Scorpions delivered an enchanting 14-song set list that cemented the teutonic band's status as Rock and Roll hall of fame-bound. This is considered by critics and fans as the most successful Monsters of Rock tour ever. The Bad News set was filmed for the "More Bad News" episode of the Comic Strip Presents. Many fans thought this was a waste of a slot, as Bad News were a 'joke' band made up of Comic Strip actors. Motörhead's set was interupted mid way through when someone threw a firecracker on stage."

OAP boba 15:11, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the report link, i wonder if axl will do a tribute at this years dl fest on the same location, Jamie-planetx 16:09, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Netherlands/Willem II stadium

Fixed the typo and thus the link, however the article linked to (stub) suggests that the current stadium was built in 1995, while the concert was in 1988. Presumably this was at the old stadium?

Pantera '91

Pantera weren't there in 1991. I was there and the memory's a bit fuzzy, but I'd have remembered. I still have the T-shirt and they're not on it. Bretonbanquet 22:07, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I was also there and don't remember Pantera.

This google video shows almost the entire show, including Pantera's set. Its from the '91 concert, since the other bands are the correct lineup. I think they were there...

They weren't there - no way. I can't hit the video link either.

I have this whole video i downloaded with pantera, acdc, metallica, and some other band i think all playing in the soviet union/russia just as the whole damn country was falling apart. like metallica even talk with some people about all the violence going on. whats the deal with that?

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GERMANY 86 MONSTERS OF ROCK-----

german monsters of rock?1986 ,deep purple headlined,metallica were also there.i motorcyled through europe just 2 see metallica.2 gigs at pzorheim and nurnberg.

Monsters of Rock 2000/2002

http://www.downloadfestival.co.uk/archive/ Claims shows occurred in both years.

Monsters of Rock 2000 - Kiss, Ozzy Osbourne, Sepultura, Biohazard, Dog Eat Dog, Paradise Lost, Fear Factory Second stage: Korn, Type O Negative, Everclear, 3 Colours Red, Honeycrack, Cecil

Monsters of Rock 2002 - Stereophonics, The Black Crowes, The Crocketts, Proud Mary

The 2002 show looks like the lineup for Stereophonics' 2001 show, but 2000??

(The Elfoid 19:07, 26 March 2007 (UTC))

Issues regarding the Monsters of Rock entry

I saw that this entry was flagged for review on the basis of verification, and I wanted to contribute some first-hand knowledge regarding music industry practices and my own experiences with MOR.

I work in the concert production industry and was on the 1990-1991 AC/DC World Tour as the assistant/merchandising accountant. The Summer 1991 European (and second-to-last, before finishing in Australia) leg of that tour featured a run of shows with AC/DC, Metallica, Motley Crue, Queensryche and the Black Crows, in various combinations. I think that Tesla may have also played one or two of these dates as well. I'm faily certain that Pantera wasn't on any of these shows, though it's possible that they were on the Russia date (see below) Many or most of these 20+ shows were called "Monsters of Rock," or similar monikers, and the tour as a whole was usually billed as the "Monsters of Rock Tour", but in reality, the tour and most shows were produced by AC/DC's organization. The shows in Modena, Italy; Chorzow, Poland; and Mainz, Germany are listed in the entry, but many are missing. I know that we did shows in France (near Paris), Spain (near Barcelona), Austria (Graz?), and Berlin. I think that we also did a show in Scotland (Glasgow?), Denmark, Hungary, and at least one other Eastern European country, but it was quite a few years, and my memory isn't what it used to be.

Following the show at Donington, scheduled to be the last of the leg, an opportunity for most of the bands to play a free show Moscow, Russia (the USSR had just broken up) and some 500,000+ people attended. I didn't go, but heard about it extensively from my crewmates who went. I believe this show was also called "Monsters of Rock."

I don't know much about UK copyright/trademark law (I'm an American) but the rights to the title "Monsters of Rock" would probably not be enforcable in my country (it's ubiquitous for a number of minor events every year). If rights are held in the UK, it probably was (is?) held by Maurice Jones (MCP Concerts), the promotor of our show at Donington and, by then, long-time promotor of the series there. My guess is that Maurice wouldn't make an attempt to enforce his license overseas - it's notoriously hard to do so across borders - and I suspect he'd be resigned that it's just going to be used sometimes. The result is that "Monsters of Rock" festivals in Chile, Brazil and even Italy probably don't bear much, if any, formal relationship to the concerts that are held at Donington, and would likely be independently produced.

Although I was in settlement at our show in Donington, I don't remember the exact attendence. I remember thinking it was "about 75,000" before I looked up this entry (I'm doing reserch for an unrated project) which seems to jive with what's posted here. It was easily the largest show on the whole 13 month tour (except Russia), and after a very long day walking the whole venue several times, I can tell you that it felt every bit of it.

I don't remember any specific issues that would have impacted the show, which to my recollection, ran smoothly and energetically (final shows of legs tend to be very spirited). Most of the crew was engaged with making the rapidly up-coming Moscow show happen, which had been forced to come together very quickly. If I'm not mistaken, the whole tour was flown in on 2 large Russian military aircraft , including trucks, tour buses, and large sections of the stage taken intact from the site and then placed on the Russia site. It was a very strenuous undertaking, so much so that it claimed the life of the Site Co-ordinator of the Moscow venue, who died a few days after the show of pnumonia.

I can't speak to Monsters of Rock festivals in other years since I wasn't there (this was the only year I worked for AC/DC), or any of the ones outside Europe. I enjoyed the Monsters of Rock run very much, and I hope this is helpful background for this entry. If anyone has any further questions or seeks additional clarification, I encourage you to email me via wikipedia's service.

Kind Regards,

Jrdeardorff 03:58, 15 May 2007 (UTC)J.R. Deardorff Merchandising/Asst. Accountant AC/DC World Tour, 1990-91