User talk:17Drew/Archive 3

I give up

hello, I'm sorry about sending you guys so many images. All I was trying to do was improve wikipedia a little. I will not be sending over so many images from now on and you can go ahead and delete all of the Images that I have on wikipedia right now, if you wanted to. User:GMButtrill08 and User:G-mon, I have two names because I was trying to change my first user name(GMButtrill08). 5:44, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Candyman Page

Hey ShadowHalo! I really think the picture of Christina Aguilera as the Andrew Sisters will represent the page of the single "Candyman" better. I uploaded it some time before, but if you don't like it you can upload it yourself. I won't be opposed to it. Also, sorry for removing the important information about references. I just thought it was a little disorganized, but I guess it is really important to have it. Also, about the cover of the single, I know someone proved that the cover currently posted in Wikipedia is the real one, but I think it's just for the UK. I went to BestBuy to buy the single myself, but it won't be out in a CD until April 10th, 2007. If it ends up being the blue colored cover, I will scan it and upload it. Finally, do you think you could post the rest of the music video information, like the woman Christina Aguilera is representing in the Milkshake Bar? Here is the link to the summary of "Candyman" and the music video itself. "http://www.mansized.co.uk/reviews/review.phtml/540/667/" I just couldn't figure out anyway to reword the summary under "We Say". But you are an expert, I think you can do it.

Bull Borgnine 03:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi Drew,

I noticed you just got one, but I had to come here and give you a barnstar...

Thanks for making the barnstar stereo!  I've been away a couple of days, so sorry not to've sent this earlier. {{·}} seems to work best on the handful of screens and printers I've seen it on; ideally, though, I reckon there could be a "set separator character" preference option (which also uses the   formatting). A couple of people said it was tricky to input, which I guess is true if you're not keen on pasting, macros or key combinations, but the "middot" character seemed appropriate for a short template name. Anyway, happy to know some folk like it!  Best wishes, David (talk) 04:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Lauryn Hill

Why did you change the pic back please? This one is not nearly as good. SmokeyTheCat 09:30, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

What makes you think that that photo of Lauryn Hill was copyright please? SmokeyTheCat 14:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

The Black Parade GA

Hello, recently I have been editing The Black Parade article to improve it based on the suggestions given from the first GA failed attempt and the second failed GA attempt. I was wondering if I could get your opinion as you failed the article the second time. I would like to know if you think the article is improved enough to possibly submit for a third time and this time possibly succeed. If it is not can I please have some suggestions as to where I can go from here when editing the article? Should more information be added, and if so what? As I freqeuntly edit the article it'd be nice to have someone else come in and take a look at it and comment on it. Thank you!  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 01:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 5 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article La Camisa Negra, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--ALoan (Talk) 14:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Smallville image

I took care of it. I didn't realize that I had left out the source. Thanks for letting me know.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 20:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Including Mediabase/R&R peaks for songs

I think that, if it's not getting out of hand, including the R&R or Mediabase peaks for a song is fine (unless way too many other charts are listed along with it). I've found so many cases where the R&R peak for a country song has been placed under "Hot Country Songs" because people fail to realize that, until last year, R&R and Billboard were separate entities. I had to split Jamie O'Neal's table into Billboard vs. R&R because someone changed the peaks. Twice. TenPoundHammer 01:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Help with Photo

Hi. I found a public photo on flickr for Clay Aiken but I'm not sure it would satisfy the requirements for Wikipedia. I need your advice and help please. http://www.flickr.com/photos/unicef_upclose/375760906/ - Maria202 21:36, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, glad I asked first. Maria202 21:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Hollaback Girl

The article you linked to doesn't say "Pop rap." It says..."most spectacularly so on the gloriously dumb marching-band rap of "Hollaback Girl."" The reviewer mischaracterizes the song as "rap" (the song has no rapping in it) and probably isn't even a reliable source. But if you were to cite him, you'd have to put simply "rap" as the genre. Do you honestly consider that accurate? Crumbsucker 03:17, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

"If you'd like me to provide a statement that it's pop, I can" The song obviously has pop elements; the issue is characterizing it's genre specifically as "pop rap" (the source you cited didn't call it "pop rap"). The song has hip hop elements (slang, beat structure, and some styles/dances in the video), but "hip hop" and "rap" aren't synonymous. Most R&B songs from the 90's-on have hip hop elements, but aren't "rap" songs. "Also note that pop rap does not always contain traditional rap but rather rapping the lyrics as opposed to actually singing them." First, the pop rap article is largely unsourced and tagged as possible original research. Second, Hollaback Girl is mostly sang. There's chanting in the bridge and chorus that I wouldn't exactly characterize as rapping (remember, the song is mimicking marching band stylings); It's similar to some of the chant elements of Toni Basel's Mickey. Either way, it's a stretch to call HBG a rap song when Gwen is mostly singing. "Considering the song's performance on the Pop 100 and Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs, I think it's pretty accurate to say that it's a pop rap song." To use that as evidence that the song is "pop rap" would be original research. Particularly because Pop 100 isn't a pop music genre chart. It leans less R&B/Rhythmic than Hot 100, but any genre of music can be on it and there are plenty of non-pop songs on it. Crumbsucker 05:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

"Could you explain how exactly hip hop music and rap music are different?" Rapping is a technique within hip hop, but "hip hop" more broadly describes culture/style. A song can be hip hop based/influenced with little or no rapping. Examples are TLC, Montel Jordan, SWV, Adina Howard, and Joe Public. They use many hip hop elements like samples, "hard edged" beats, baggy clothes, swagger, slang, etc. But they sing most of the time (with occasional rapped bridges) and definitely wouldn't have their genres described as "rap." "...as the sources state it contains a lot of hip hop elements and falls in the intersection between pop and hip hop (which is called pop rap)" It would be inaccurate and kinda silly to describe a song with no rapping in it as "rap." And again, the pop rap article is unsourced and possibly original research. Some of the artist examples they give are laughable (first time i've ever seen Cassie described as "rap" or Jay-Z described as "pop"). Crumbsucker 00:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

"I'm aware that rapping and hip hop are different, but rap music and hip hop music are for all intents and purposes the same things." I've already demonstrated that that is false. None of the songs I linked to are rap songs, but they are hip hop songs. The terms aren't synonymous. "I'm also a little confused as to why you keep saying that there is no rap when the sources disagree." Maybe because there's no rap? Do you consider Toni Basil's Mickey a rap song? It has similar chant vocals. "This review at All Music Guide, one of the most comprehensive and reliable music sites, refers to it as a "marching-band rap"" A site that calls a song with no rapping in it "rap" is unreliable. In fact, in another review from that author, he calls Rammstein "Gothic Metal," "Black Metal," and "Prog Metal," which is laughably incorrect. "and OMH Media's review calls it "rap-pop"." On musicomh's about page it says..."We're always looking for enthusiastic music, film, opera and theatre fans who would like to write - regardless of age or location." The site is made up of user submitted content and therefore isn't a reliable source for wikipedia. Crumbsucker 02:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

"Looking at the two reviews by Erlewine, I can't find any that uses all those terms." here you go. "And OMH isn't user-submitted. The page clearly states that they hire their writers but are encouraging readers to apply, the equivalent of a "help wanted"." Thus making the site an unrelible source for defining genres. "How about asking for a third opinion since this doesn't appear to be getting us very far? " Ok. Crumbsucker 02:36, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Third opinion

If the genre really is in dispute by reliable sources, or different sources call it different things, we don't decide who's right. Rather, the fact that the dispute exists should be noted, and the various positions noted in the prose ("Whatever Magazine describes the genre as rap-pop^[1], while Something Weekly disagrees, stating that no rap elements are present.^[2].) Of course, if one position is strongly in the majority, this should be noted and that position treated with the most weight. Also, please discuss articles on the article's talk, so that other editors may get involved as well. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 21:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Ok, I will use the sandbox next time. How did you find my vandalism so fast? I want to help stop vandalism too. ||FrozenFood|| 23:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Eyes of the Insane

Hello ShadowHalo, I was greatly appreciative of your feedback during GAC which improved the article, so now I'm wondering if you could (in light of your decent work on song articles, our table dispute aside) take another look at the article and tell me what would need improvisation for a possibly successful FAC nomination. Much thanks in advance. LuciferMorgan 10:47, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Single entry track list

Why are you removing the track listings from usages of {{Single entry}}? --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 19:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah, okay. I checked the template's talk page for discussion and couldn't find any. Thanks for pointing me to it. --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 19:29, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

i'm sorry, i didnt know that it did. i'll make sure no one else puts it back. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ratizi1 (talk • contribs) 23:16, 10 April 2007 (UTC).

RE: MCQ

Thanks ShadowHalo for your reply. Just a quick follow up clarification, does "Creative Commons ShareAlike 1.0 License" qualify? CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 02:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Er, answered my own question. Thanks though. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 02:55, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Your message

If editors explain what they're doing, and don't introduce hosts of formatting errors in with their genuine (if any) edits, then there'll be no problem. I might add that in your first example I was reverting violations of the redirect policy; there is no article U.S., nor UK, for example. I have no idea how you think that I was violating Wikipedia:Redirect. I was also reverting a huge number of changes to information for which no explanation or sources were given. I don't see why you're so concerned about that; it's what we're all supposed to do. (I later reinserted one section that was sourced, though badly formatted.)

I don't revert simply because no edit summary is used; not using one is bad manners, but I revert only when the lack of an edit summary goes along with an edit that has no source, or whose purpose and result is either clearly or wrong or completely unclear. My Watchlist is full of edits with no edit summaries that, after checking, I leave; they're irritating, but that's not grounds for interference (beyond sometimes reminding editors to use them).

You and I are generally on the same side in a constant battle against vandals and disruptors; it's surely unwise, at least, to get involved in baseess attacks on each other. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 09:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you feel it necessary to keep this up. Your position seems to be that, because part of my editing was unnecessary (though not wrong — what I did certainly doesn't violate anything), it's OK to revert it. Incidentally, the source to which you linked points out that such edits take up more resources than they save — but that's only, of course, if the edit was made purely to change the link. Your insistence on changing to a link to a redirect instead of a piped link (as if it's actually wrong to use a piped link) is, frankly, obssessive and absurd.

It's also depressing, after a lot of time defending an article (in whose subject I have no Earthly interest), to be accused or wanting to own it; I'd be perfectly happy to see it gone, and I have no problems with people editing it according to Wikipedia guidelines and policies. My actions are performed wholly out of concern for those guidelines and policies.

Anyway, I'll leave you to it; I've removed it from my watchlist, and you can play games with it to your heart's content. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 17:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Project for Pride in Living

Could you help me delete Project for Pride in Living's article i put on wikipedia? I need to delete that as well as the user page. I do not want it to be searchable on the web either. Please help me out! Thanks RebeccaC21

Images

Hi, could you please explain what is going on with all the images you are tagging. Also what is the correct tag for the images? David Spart (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) 19:23, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

When are they allowed? David Spart (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) 19:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

What is the legal rationale for this? David Spart (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) 19:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I mean what is the legal reasoning behind interpreting fair use in this way? David Spart (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) 19:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Project for Pride in Living User talk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Project_for_Pride_in_Living

Here's the User Talk page I hope you can delete. Thanks RebeccaC21 21:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Smells Like Teen Spirit

Hey, I was wondering if you could help a little bit with "Smells Like Teen Spirit". It's almost ready for FAC, but there's a few things I want to take care of. You have a lot of experience working with charts on the Gwen Stefani articles (conversely, I find charts difficult to navigate and edit) so I wanted to ask you if you would be willing to clean up and rearrange the Chart positions section in the article to something more in line with the Gwen Stefani song GAs and FA. Also, there's a peer review going on, but I haven't had many responses. If you have any comments about the article, please add some comments to the peer review. Thanks. WesleyDodds 03:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I've addressed your suggestions as well as asked some questions in the peer review. WesleyDodds 19:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Copyright questions

Hey, was just looking at the copyright pages and wanted to thank you for answering some of the flood of questions and encouraging people to use free content. Cheers, Kat Walsh (spill your mind?) 23:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Discography/doc

Ok, chill out :) I didn't even realize you had removed them because I was in the middle of actually creating that page. Downstream 00:45, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Awards

I'd like to ask your opinion on award lists. On some musician articles, there will sometimes be a sub-heading listing their awards and achievements. Sometimes the list is too long to keep or merge into main article, so they're created in a seperate article. Do you think a musician's awards deserve an article of its own (if it's too long to keep in the main)? Spellcast 01:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The reason I'm asking is because there is a current afd listing Celine Dion's awards (as well as other artists). I thought an admin should be the most familiar with the policies so I asked your thoughts on it. Anyway, I already decided to vote keep on that page. The nominator seems to think it violates WP:NOT. Spellcast 02:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

What You Waiting For?

Sure. In a funny bit of coincidence, I had just finished reading the page when I got your message. WesleyDodds 04:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		I've been working on Category:Rescaled fairuse images lately, and you and Mecu have done an incredible job clearing out the requests. You've probably heard this before, but congratulations on a job well done! – Riana ऋ 14:22, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Question regarding the GA nomination of Bruce Hornsby

Thank you for taking the time to read and review the Bruce Hornsby article. Having worked very hard to improve the article as a frequent contributor, and having nominated the article for GA status, I was a little disappointed, obviously, by the result of your review, but I feel that you have made very fair criticisms of the article and I will work hard to improve upon the article.

One of the difficulties I have run across with the article is that, unlike with musical groups such as Pink Floyd, there is a very limited amount of textual resource material on Hornsby. There is much to say, but it seems that very little of it has been adequately explored by others. Does this make sense?

I was wondering if I might ask questions or seek feedback from you regarding my future edits to this article? I am striving only to improve the article, and this message is meant as a sincere thanks for your time and efforts. Feel free to respond on my talk page, or here, if you wish. All best, Snidleysnide 14:31, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me, and I am very sorry to hear about the medical problems. I've begun work on the article, and I've tried to improve the top part, as well as the "Early Years" and "Range Years" sections...making them less-cluttered by quotes and more flowing as per your suggestions and advice. I've left the large quote in the top part because one of the central issues with Hornsby, it seems, is that he is best known for the massive commercial success of his first mainstream pop albums, but he's also been very quietly experimenting with cross-genre musical improvisation for the 20 years or so since then. So, for some audiences, he's vanished (from the commercial scene)...for other audiences, he's been a pioneer. I guess that's part of what has sparked my interest in his article. Snidleysnide 20:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Reading back over my last note, I feel kind of bad. I completely understand the medical difficulty, and I didn't mean to be so brief with my "sorry" and then dive right into seeking advice. Above all, I appreciate your time with any advice you can offer. Whenever you get the chance, just so you know, I've made every effort to edit the Bruce Hornsby article down through and including the section titled "the Solo records". If you have a chance to look over it, great...if not, no big deal...I'll let you know when the entire thing is done, with an eye towards seeking advice before I try renominating it for GA status. Obviously, the most important thing is your medical situation. Best of luck with that...Snidleysnide 00:36, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me, and thanks for your suggestions! I'm in the process of incorporating your suggestions, so I'll let you know when I've finished...I've still got a couple of sections that I haven't really gotten to at all. Glad to hear things are better. Snidleysnide 14:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Exciting news, I've finished revamping the Bruce Hornsby article (I think). I found a ton of references, and I removed everything I couldn't reference. Please have a look at it, at your convenience. Any feedback or suggestions, as always, would be much appreciated. I'll wait to hear back from you before re-nominating it for GA. Thanks Snidleysnide 19:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I went ahead and renominated Bruce Hornsby for GA. I am certainly interested in and appreciative of any feedback you have to offer, but since the waitlist for review is pretty long I thought it best to go ahead and renominate...I'm hoping that any suggestions you might have will be fairly minor edits (since I've been working so hard) and that I could probably take care of those while still waiting for review. Cheers, Snidleysnide 18:09, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions on the talk page. I've tried to fix everything, but I did run into a bit of trouble wiki-ing the access dates on the references. I looked at other articles for samples, but I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong. Here's the note I just put on the article talk page:

Made all corrections suggested, although I did leave the "in music" links for the first mentioning of each year. I figure those can be easily removed later, and certainly if it becomes a GA/not-GA issue. I removed the repeated "in music" links for repeated years, though. Reformatted all citations as per your suggestion, and I fixed everything else...thanks

thank you, once again, for your help. Snidleysnide 22:18, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

separate Hornsby question

Thanks again for all of your advice and suggestions, the article hasn't been re-reviewed for GA yet, but that has given myself and others time to get it polished nicely. I wanted to ask your advice on adding audio files to the article...I'm really not sure how that works with Wikipedia (honestly, I was fairly proud of myself for figuring out how to get images into the article :) ). Various Hornsby websites offer a wide array of audio samples of his work from albums, and, from what I can tell, it seems that Wikipedia generally approaches these uses of audio files/samples much like the usage of album cover art...I guess my dilemma is that I'm not currently equipped to convert .mp3 to .ogg (which seems the preferred file format)...and I'm not totally certain of the protocol for uploading, etc. Any ideas?

P.S. I'm really pleased with how the article has come out...I hope that it gets GA, and, if it does get GA and if I can get some audio added, do you think it might have a shot at FA? Snidleysnide 20:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughts, and for your offer to help with samples. If it is possible to use samples from brucehornsby.com, his official site, there are already shortened mp3 versions of a number of his songs, with some full-length mp3 samples. As I mentioned, I lack the capabilities to convert to ogg, so I would appreciate help with that...I'm not sure exactly what to suggest for which specific samples, though. Looking through the article, I've included mentionings of 20 or more different songs...each time used to illustrate an "evolution" of Hornsby's sound, which, from what I've learned via editing the article, has been changing pretty frequently over the years. Even if we limit ourselves to one track per album, that's still going to be around 10 samples (it's kind of tough to limit, since he's had a 20 year career). I really like the way the samples have been integrated on the Pink Floyd article, into the text (although they may have gone a tad overboard with the quantity of samples, it breaks up the article pretty significantly)...and I think text-integration of samples could work with the Hornsby article (on a smaller scale, obviously), but I'd hate to trouble you with converting so many samples...let me know what your feelings about the issue are, and, if you want to move forward, I can pick 10 or so songs to include...Snidleysnide 03:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about the last note, I didn't realize that Audacity is a program that anyone can download and use. I'll do my best to add some samples, then I might ask you to look things over and verify that I've done it correctly. (I guess the last note reveals how little I actually know about these things)...Snidleysnide 17:08, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Ugh. On second thought, brucehornsby.com has taken pretty extensive measures to make certain that it is impossible to right-click any of the albums' track-by-track mp3 samples (even though the samples are generally only 20 seconds in length). I'm having trouble finding downloadable song samples in any format, (samples are all over amazon and allmusic, but I cannot download them) and I'm thinking that either Hornsby or his record label is not too keen on these samples being downloadable...or else my quest would be easier. Am I missing the boat on an easier method, or have they made it deliberately difficult (if the latter, then it's probably best to not include audio samples in the article, since it would seem to violate the artist's wishes). Snidleysnide 19:19, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, that's great. I'm going to slightly rephrase the caption, to include racial issues, but otherwise it looks perfect. I appreciate the help. Snidleysnide 17:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Gwen Stefani

In response to you comments on my talk page, the article is a Good Article nominee, which I am reviewing at the moment. Broken links do not look good and I'm opposed to creating stubs that I have no intention of building on, so I'm not going to create a page for it just so it links somewhere. "Baby clothes" isn't a difficult phrase to undestand. There is no reason to wikify it, particularly when there is no such article. --LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 18:49, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Go to Good Article Review with this one I would - there's a clear difference of opinion between you and the reviewer as concerns the lead section. Personally, I concur with your viewpoint on the matter. LuciferMorgan 01:06, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Uh. There is no clear difference of opinion. A once back and forth of policy and a legit--or possibly only--example offered, then POOF, resolution. Respectfully, it's you that has issues with reviewers. In this instance, you should mind your business, LuciferMorgan. This situation is under control. --LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 06:16, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you should actually say this on my page LaraLove and not underhandedly on other pages. Furthermore, perhaps you should actually learn to properly review GAC articles LaraLove. Your reasoning about how the lead needs citing was absolute rubbish may I add.LuciferMorgan 16:08, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

And when I asked her to look at Jihad (song), she agreed that citing the lead was unnecessary. The issue is dead and there's no need to argue over it. ShadowHalo 19:10, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

ShadowHalo, I've been doing a little research to hopefully speed up this process and get the nomination approved.

• [1] is an article about their wedding.
• [2] reads of the baby news including mention of US Weekly.
• The Grammy awards shouldn't be difficult. Just googling Grammy and the year will bring up the list of nominees and winners.
• [3] CNN.com 1998 Grammy Nominations for Don't Speak
  • Song of the Year
  • Best Pop Performance By a Duo or Group with Vocal
• [4] Best Rap/Sung Collaboration: "Let Me Blow Ya Mind" - Eve featuring Gwen Stefani

--LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 06:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually

not exactly i was only reverting edits by going back and saving a page that hasnt been added to by User:McMare he keeps putting false songs on the page..the thing iz it wouldnt save when i did..=] `Aint no stoppin me + ma sis cuz we da baddezt! 03:42, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

i know and thanks..=] Aint no stoppin me + ma sis cuz we da baddezt! 03:45, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Triple crown

I, Durova, award Wikipedia's triple crown to ShadowHalo for superb contributions to Template:Did you know, good articles, and featured content. Thank you for outstanding efforts to improve this website. Durova^Charge! 06:39, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Your Majesty, it gives me great pleasure to award these three crowns in honor of your editing achievements. May you wear them well. Durova^Charge! 06:39, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Gwen Stefani

there is no certification in database because riaa's page is refreshed every two years! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Toni is here (talk • contribs).

The Sweet Escape

Yes, I own The Sweet Escape. I will look into adding the credits section when I have time. Also, thanks for that link! Velten 13:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Templates.

I'm sorry; I didn't realize that was the case. I'll begin fixing those on other templates too. I am really sorry. Acalamari 16:19, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I've just gone through my template edits and have corrected all the middots. Thanks for pointing my error out. Acalamari 17:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Image:Bad Religion.jpg

This image is from Bad Religion's press kit, so they intend it to be used to illustrate articles regarding them. I do not dispute that the image could be replaced with a free image, but until we have such an image, the current one is serving a useful purpose. Is this image in danger of being deleted? Foobaz·o< 19:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome... and Thank You!

You're quite welcome. That's the point of them, right? And thanks for your kind words. I'm a nerd and I take everything so serious! I've just recently gotten into Wikipedia and it's consuming me... quite sad, really, but I enjoy it. It's a constant learning process, which is what I really love about it. And I really do appreciate your approval of my GA Reviews. I've just started doing those and I really like it. I think that's going to be my "job" here on Wikipedia. :) I look forward to more articles from you on the GA/n list. They're the most interesting I can find so far. --LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 06:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

GA-nom: Bronze Soldier

Referring to this, I cannot find any review supporting the notion that the aricle didn't make it to GA. Was the article ever properly nominated? --Camptown 14:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Opinion

Hey, I was hoping you could look at something for me really quickly and tell me what you think. I may be under the wrong impression about how the GNU Free Documentation License works as far as the information on Wikipedia being freely allowed for use on other sites, but if you could, check out this site and compare it to the Westfield High School (Fairfax County, Virginia) article.

If the Public School Review page took the information from Wikipedia, are they allowed to Copyright it? Is there a way to know where the information first originated? I'm reviewing the article for GA and came upon that site. It seems like a problem to me, but maybe I'm wrong. I would appreciate your input. --LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 02:29, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I would appreciate any help you can give me. I'm really wanting to get this article listed as a GA considering the VA massacre and the attention this article may receive because of it (the shooter was a graduate of this high school). My biggest concern is whether that site pulled the information from Wikipedia, or if that information was pulled from that site and put into Wikipedia. I can't promote an article that may be plagiarism and/or copyright infringement, obviously. So I'm currently looking through the logs of edits to see when and by whom the information was added. If it's all one big chunk, it will seem to me that it was probably pulled from the site rather than written by the editor. --LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 02:45, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

It's not Zidel. He's been working on the article periodically for months. After the VA massacre, he really started improving it. Nominated it for GA, I reviewed it, left a detailed list of issues, which he immediately began working on. If you look at the history here, user:20176 added what is the first paragraph verbatim to that site on September 24, 2006. The article has changed since, but the lead is the same. In this version of the article, there is a Buildings and Land section that is on that website but isn't in the current version of the article. I can't tell which came first, the chicken or the egg... the Wikipedia article or that website page. --LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 03:04, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

It has to be the website that took the information. As I look through the history, it was many edits by many different editors that wrote the version that website has. I'm not sure what to do as far as the website goes, but I feel confident in moving forward with the GA/n. I would appreciate and help or advice you could give in dealing with the copyright issues regarding that website. --LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 03:19, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Wind It Up (Gwen Stefani song)

Sorry I didn't drop you a line a few minutes ago. I passed the Good Article nomination. Another job well done. Good luck in your future nominations. --LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 05:00, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

{{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}

Hi. I noticed where you have tagged some images for being moved to Commons. FYI, if you are interested, you can quickly and easily move images to Commons yourself. There is a tool called Commons Helper that makes it painless. Please see Wikipedia:Moving images to the Commons for instructions. --BigDT 22:39, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

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Edits

You have the wrong user. User:Roofus deleted the Campbell soup image (see comments about this on my page, his page, and the article talk page. I have never made any edits to the other article you mention. Thanks.—Gaff ^ταλκ 03:27, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

not a problem. happy editing—Gaff ^ταλκ 03:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Campbell's Soup Cans talk page banners

I am curious about this edit since Warhol is from Pittsburgh. Is there a requirement that the name of the WikiProject must appear in the article to attach a banner? The words visual arts don't appear, yet the article clearly falls within that project's domain. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 00:10, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Your response leads me to believe you might be able to offer me some insight on talk page project banner use. My thinking on Campbell’s Soup Cans was in part based on the fact that the Andy Warhol Museum is in Pittsburgh and thus some of the most expert scholars on the subject might by WikiProject Pittsburgh or WikiProject Pennsylvania members.

However, I have a broader issue on banner use in general. I have been attempting to understand why some projects use the priority scale and some use importance scale and what the proper use of such scales is. Your response above seems to suggest a belief that a banner is an indicator that the Project’s editors are in an advantageous position in terms of researching the article for improvement. Some perceive the scale as an indicator of the import of the topic in to readers who are interested in the projects subject. Others seem to think that the scale indicates that the project’s editors interest in improving the quality of the article from a copy editing perspective and vandal fighting perspective. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 07:21, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

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Copyrighted image question

You're like my go-to guy for this kind of stuff, I hope you don't mind. You told me, about an image I uploaded, "We can't use copyrighted works to illustrate living people, even if we have permission to use it on Wikipedia." I'm reviewing the Peter Canavan article for GA and it contains all copyrighted images with fair use rationales. From what you've told me, this is not appropriate, correct? LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 04:23, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! You have, as always, been very helpful... and I appreciate it. If you had more articles up for GA for me to review, I wouldn't have to worry about all this junk! Get to it! :P LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 05:26, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Good luck with the FA nominations! Let me know if you need anything. LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 05:29, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

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La Vida Es un Ratico

I have made changes to the "La Vida Es un Ratico" page, I have added more information about the album, and I plan on adding more information as the release of the album aproaches, such information as new Singles, a possible track listing, etc. Thank you for pointing out the errors I made. --Canuck01 04:33, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Get Me Bodied

what do you mean

“ Please stop. Continuing to add unsourced or original content, as you did to Get Me Bodied, is considered vandalism and may result in a block. ShadowHalo 03:08, 13 May 2007 (UTC) ”

the only thing i did on that page was revert an edit i made myself because i found proof that get me bodied actually is a single. you don't have to go all administrator on me. lqtm...

but the site i found (musicstack) is an online store for vinyls and i don't know if i can properly add it as a source. Here it is. in my research i found out "Amor Gitano" was a mexican only single here along with "Lost Yo Mind/Creole" here and "What's It Gonna Be" here

User:Toni is here

User:Toni is here just made this edit to your talk page. I have just blocked them for 24hrs for this, and for continuing to make changes despite your warnings. Regards, _└ ^UkPaolo/_talk^┐ 10:14, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Why?

Why did you removed my content that i submited to Gwen Stefani discography? You could at least check if all of the information are true!?!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Toni thebest (talk • contribs) 20:31, May 13, 2007 (UTC).

Orphaned image

Dude, thank you so much for notifying me about the image!

Some guest or some fool removed it from "Case Closed" - See, I hate it when random guests remove images and get them deleted - Thanks to you notifying me, I knew that I had to put it back in the article :) WhisperToMe 21:15, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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Joseph Szigeti

Hi ShadowHalo,

Thanks for dropping by to help out on the Szigeti article. Two questions:

1. No rudeness intended, but what do you see as the advantages of having the infobox? I frankly hate those things, I think they're ugly and don't add anything in the way of useful information to the article. I'm not going to boorishly revert it without asking you first, though. :)
2. I notice you rated the article as B-class. What would you say are its main weak points right now? The big revamp I put up earlier today has been a one-woman labor of love for a while now (it's been stewing in my word processor since Christmas, actually) and I'm hoping to eventually get it up to Featured status. Any and all constructive criticism is welcome. K. Lásztocska 05:05, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks for your prompt response. I took care of some of the minor copyedit details (capitalizations, stray apostrophes) and found one more NY Times ref that I forgot earlier. I have a few more references that I will put in as soon as I resolve a minor issue with them.

I have no idea who holds the copyright for that photo. I'll try to find out, but something tells me it's a lost cause and I'd better start trying to find a different picture.

As for citing page numbers, finding more references, adding a "Notes" section--I'll start on that tomorrow. Right now in my time zone it's after 1 AM and I need to go to bed. :-) Thanks again for your feedback! K. Lásztocska 06:11, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Vanderbilt University Alumni Images

I am restoring the Vanderbilt alumni images you deleted. Please see wiki "fair use" policy. --Zeamays 20:15, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

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Image:Falloutboyset.jpg

Can you look at that and tell me if that is a valid fair use rationale? If so, I would think a lot more people would be using it. --LaraLove^T/_C 18:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

You are quick! This is why I *heart* you! Haaha. Thanks, Drew! --LaraLove^T/_C 18:15, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, as always! --LaraLove^T/_C 18:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

B'Day Anthology Video Album

i reworded everything and made it more original so there shouldnt be any cpoy vio issues. (i had intended to do this all along but you didnt give me a chance and reacted to quickly.) sorry for the mess. Ratizi1 21:47, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up

I'm modifying the bot as we speak to put the original image in comments. This should help things out a bit :) Thank you for letting me know. :D —— Eagle101^{Need help?} 06:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

The bot has been modified :) —— Eagle101^{Need help?} 07:04, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

regarding Indian govt. images

Under the right to information, the images can be freely used by Indian citizens and can be distributed. They are non-commercial and hence can be said to be free use. Please enlighten me more in this regard. Kaushal mehta 07:49, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

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Fair use rationale for Image:Harry-Potter-And-The-Goblet-Of-Fire--C10299627.jpg

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RE: No Doubt discography

I posted unreliable information? Oh, i'm sorry, i didn't know that SoundScan was an unreliable source of information for album sales. My bad. asshole.

15 Songs For You

This album does exist, here's a link to it but if you are unsure of how to use a Bittorrent client I can provide help as I'm an IT Manager.

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3675198

How can it's existence be in question when it can be found using ALL the major internet search engines? If it can be searched for, found, downloaded and the album played on an MP3 player why can this phenomenon not be dealt with in the Wiki?

Just because this is a new phenomenon does not mean it's not an album as defined in the Wiki and just because the music is not pressed on a CD by a record label does not mean it's not seen as an album by all the downloaders playing it on their iPods.

It's the same as me saying to you 'Back To Basics' does not exist because it's not available on LP and I don't have a CD player. You would point out that I should buy the CD and a CD player so I'm saying to you download the album and play it on n MP3 player.

I have removed the deletion code for the time being whist the subject is being debated.

I really can't understand the objection to this article as it's an internet phenomenon which I can only see growing (Bittorrents now account for nearly 50% of internet traffic)