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::I did not mean to imply that local radio hosts are automatically excluded, just that by the generally accepted community standards, they need to show that they have done something to set themselves apart from other local radio show hosts. If they are of little interest to someone outside the local area, there's little chance of them passing muster with editors here. If there are awards and other media coverage independent of the subject, then include it, and cite it. [[User:DarkAudit|DarkAudit]] 21:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
::I did not mean to imply that local radio hosts are automatically excluded, just that by the generally accepted community standards, they need to show that they have done something to set themselves apart from other local radio show hosts. If they are of little interest to someone outside the local area, there's little chance of them passing muster with editors here. If there are awards and other media coverage independent of the subject, then include it, and cite it. [[User:DarkAudit|DarkAudit]] 21:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, radio shows are not out by default, its just that there are so many radio shows that the ones that are included in Wikipedia will have to give evidence as to why they are [[WP:NOTE|notable]]. If you can cite verifiable, third-party sources as to why this radio show is important on a bigger scale that just one little town, it probably wouldn't be deleted. [[User:Useight|Useight]] 22:50, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, radio shows are not out by default, its just that there are so many radio shows that the ones that are included in Wikipedia will have to give evidence as to why they are [[WP:NOTE|notable]]. If you can cite verifiable, third-party sources as to why this radio show is important on a bigger scale that just one little town, it probably wouldn't be deleted. [[User:Useight|Useight]] 22:50, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


I believe a page should be made about Tony Rizzo and this page should be merged into it. The show itself is not very notable, but Rizzo is a notable broadcaster in Cleveland, much like [[Jim Donovan (sportscaster)|Jim Donovan]]. His page could describe this show and his other accoplishments. [[User:Ben1283|Ben1283]] 22:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

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Rizzo show needed a page. Nothing here should be considered controversial or editorial in nature. It's a rundown of the content of his show and how it differs from typical sports shows in the market. Sportsboytony 18:20, 18 May 2007 (UTC)Sportsboytony[reply]

The article is going to need sources cited to demonstrate that it's not any more than a local radio show. You'll want to check WP:BIO for guidelines. Articles are meant to be judged on a case-by-case basis, but typically, local radio and television shows aren't considered notable enough without significant out-of-market coverage. DarkAudit 18:37, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i'm not sure i'm entirely on the same page here. I'm not sure I saw any indication in the wikipedia user guides that radio shows need to have exposure on the national level to garner a wikipedia page. When people do searches for "rizzo on the radio," why shouldn't they have a wiki such as this to serve as a resource? Sportsboytony 19:11, 18 May 2007 (UTC)sportsboytony[reply]

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a search engine. The article is going to have to show why he's notable outside of his market, and cite outside sources to prove it. DarkAudit 19:17, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification. However, I've not aware that an "encyclopedia" (your words, not mine) excludes radio programs of some sort. According to dictionary.com, an encyclopedia is "A comprehensive reference work containing articles on a wide range of subjects or on numerous aspects of a particular field, usually arranged alphabetically. "

Seems like an odd distinction that somehow local radio shows don't live under the umbrella of "wide range of subjects or on numerous aspects of a particular field." Also, your "what wikipedia is not" section outlines : "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information," and even goes so far as outline what it feels it considers an "indiscriminate collection of information." If local radio shows do not fit the bill, I would encourage your admins to add "local radio shows" right under "statistics." That way you wouldn't have authors like myself wasting an hour adding content. Thanks again for the clarification.

Sportsboytony 19:34, 18 May 2007 (UTC)sportsboytony[reply]

I did not mean to imply that local radio hosts are automatically excluded, just that by the generally accepted community standards, they need to show that they have done something to set themselves apart from other local radio show hosts. If they are of little interest to someone outside the local area, there's little chance of them passing muster with editors here. If there are awards and other media coverage independent of the subject, then include it, and cite it. DarkAudit 21:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, radio shows are not out by default, its just that there are so many radio shows that the ones that are included in Wikipedia will have to give evidence as to why they are notable. If you can cite verifiable, third-party sources as to why this radio show is important on a bigger scale that just one little town, it probably wouldn't be deleted. Useight 22:50, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]


I believe a page should be made about Tony Rizzo and this page should be merged into it. The show itself is not very notable, but Rizzo is a notable broadcaster in Cleveland, much like Jim Donovan. His page could describe this show and his other accoplishments. Ben1283 22:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]