User talk:Jesse Viviano

Image Deletion

Thanks for helping me delete the old images of Image:Padre Gioacchino La Lomia.JPG and Image:Padre Gioacchino.JPG but I didn't need the latest version titled: Image:Venerable Gioacchino La Lomia.JPG to be removed from the article Gioacchino La Lomia as well. That is the only version I want left so I put the image back into the article. The older versions did not have "Venerable" listed and I wanted the appropriate title to be used on his image. Thanks---Calogero C. Villareale 18:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Fatties

Just so you know, the article on "fatties in prison" wasn't an attack page, it was a reference to a recent feature on Something Awful. DS 17:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Its contents was "That one guy on 'prison Break" is fat.", written by User:Ensiform. That is a stinking example of an attack page. Jesse Viviano 17:18, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Only incidentally. I have rebuked Ensiform for creating the page; however, it was explicitly a reference to the feature on Something Awful. DS 21:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Image

Uploader acknowledges that this is not fair use.--Konstable 04:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Question about 72.10.124.101

Hello Jesse Viviano. I wanted to ask why you tweaked the block to disallow account creation? It was definitely an abusive school IP but I usually stick with softblocks for such occasions. However I've only been an administrator for close to a month or so, so you may know better in these cases.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 18:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

• I am new at this as well. However, the consensus seems to be to force the account of students to be created at home when dealing with schools full of vandals to cut down on the vandalism. See {{Schoolblock}}. Jesse Viviano 18:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Thanks I appreciate the response. I'll only enact such blocks then for these kind of extreme cases.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 18:52, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
  • This will make it less likely that this address gets autoblocked. If a vandal creates an account and then continues to vandalize, the block on the school will become a hard autoblock when the vandalism only account gets blocked. Jesse Viviano 18:58, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

How to get our listing on Wikipedia

Hello Jesse,

You recently blocked my attempt to create a listing about our company on Wikipedia. See RentalHomesPlus.com. Is there any way at all to get this site mentioned? Our parent company has a listing and so do some of our competitors.

Any advice you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

RHPSEO 21:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Why?

Can you please explain this and this? Thanks. Sarvagnya 01:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I deleted a copyright violation that was uploaded over this one. I was preparing to delete when I noticed that there was an older version. I reverted to it and deleted the watermarked copyright version. Jesse Viviano 01:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Somebody has reverted it. I tried rv to your ver... but something went wrong. Please take a look. Sarvagnya 09:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

That is your browser cache acting up. Also, I warned the copyright violator, User:Monu johnson, who uploaded the photo again, to quit. This is one of the few times you should quit your browser, restart it, and clear its cache. Jesse Viviano 15:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok. Now I see it. But my concerns over that image arent over yet. That image is clearly either a screengrab or a cropped image from some promotional material of the Hindi movie Company. The movie is all of maybe, 8-10 yrs old at the most. I cant see how it can be public domain anywhere in the world. Please take a look. Sarvagnya 17:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

If you can find the source, please tag it with {{Db-copyvio|url=http://www.whereItCameFrom.tld/}}. If not, please tag it with {{PUIdisputed}} and follow the instructions there. I am not allowed to delete unless you can prove the copyright violation, per Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Jesse Viviano 17:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

soz

sorry! my mistake totally!

Bot?

If you are not a bot, please read the message at the top of User talk:Emax. It was at the bottom, too, but some people still posted below it (perhaps I should make it blink and scream...). Thank you, -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  22:44, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I am not a bot, but I did not know where else to put image deletion warnings. I was following procedure to allow the eventual deletion to take place. If the uploader is not notified, then an administrator must not delete the image and reset the warning timer and notify the uploader. Jesse Viviano 22:56, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Please report the spam problem to meta:Talk:Spam blacklist

Thank you very much for your efforts. I had an inkling that it would require blocking an ISP and was in two minds over whether to file the report, so I decided to take care of both ends by reporting the spamlink at meta too. Anyhow, thanks very much for your consideration and I hope your efforts to help will prevent further spamming. Semi-protecting the page was a good move. Regards, Ekantik ^talk 03:34, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism on Ramapough page

Jesse, wanted to say thank you for catching the damage before it really caused serious problems.

Ramapoughnative1

ENOVIA

You placed a delete tag on the ENOVIA page The two links I created in the ENOVIA page were appropriate links. There is no explanation for ENOVIA at the moment so the best was to explain it would be to direct people to the owners of the product: dassault sysemes. I will make you a encyclopedia discription of the Product as soon as I can, but to have no discription at all seems to me like a lack of valuble information. You cannot describe ENOVIA without mentioning a Product or Company because that is what it is A PRODUCT owned by a company. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CDC Catia (talk • contribs) 14:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

An article in the main space must have more than a bunch of links, or it is spam. External links are OK if they are accompanied by an article about the subject of the article. Wikipedia is not a link farm. Also, please sign your comments with four tildes like this: ~~~~. Jesse Viviano 14:57, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Viewtiful Zoidberg

VZ is someone I know outside of Wikipedia, whom I work with on a games review web site. It was all in good fun. - A Link to the Past (talk) 04:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Protecting imagery

I suggest you read my comment here. Commons admins will protect high risk images; a list at the commons AN would be helpful for that. As a practical matter, if an image exists on Commons then the local version of its page is automatically full protected against uploads, but the description page is like any other non-existent article.--Nilfanion (talk) 18:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

AIV report on Lingofascist

I know what a fascist is, but my comment is that I don't think the word fascist is inherently grounds for a prohibited username, because it is a political idealogy and we routinely allow people to express their political preferences. In summary, I can see why someone might complain, but I don't see that it is a clear-cut case and belongs at WP:RFCN. —dgies^t_c 21:54, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Navdeepbains.parl.gc.ca.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Navdeepbains.parl.gc.ca.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Jesse Viviano 15:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Jesse, updated (sorry, I forgot!). - Denny 15:42, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Roy Romanow

Good luck trying to get a free photo of the Premier of Saskatchewan. I task you with getting it. That's like trying to get a free photo of the Governor of Michigan. GreenJoe 19:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I do not live in Canada, so I could not do it. However, even Mike Tyson's page had no photo until someone found a free one on Flickr. Jesse Viviano 19:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

He should submit a free photo of himself to Wikipedia if he wants a photo in his article.

There is a free image of the governor of Michigan on the Commons at Image:Granholm speaking to troops, Lansing, 1 Dec, 2005.jpg. Jesse Viviano 20:00, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Then I suggest you visit Canada. Respond on my talk page next time please. I don't waste time watching yours. GreenJoe 20:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)#Regarding notability of Football (soccer) players

Hi, seeing you have been involved in previous Afd debates on the subject I invite you to contribute to this discussion to clarify certain issues about football player notability. I think clearer guidelines are needed to avoid repeated inappropriate nominations for deletion and time consuming discussions. Cheers! StephP 22:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:AIV

Huge apologies, that was completely my stupidity. I thought the "backlog" notice up top was a template, and I thought that bit of code was said template. I was merely trying to remove the backlog notice since I had cleared most of that backlog. Won't make that mistake again. :) Staxringold _talk^contribs 16:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

時里

韓国中国亜米利加紐育日本慶應義塾大学様葉尾！！！！

Uhh, this might make sense to somebody who knows this better, but 韓国 is South Korea, 中国 China and 日本 Japan. Also talks about Keio University (慶應義塾大学). Beyond that, no clue :D -Yupik 20:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Since this nonsense masquerading as Chinese or Japanese has spawned legitimate contents, I will not remove it. Jesse Viviano 22:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:Navdeepbains.parl.gc.ca.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Navdeepbains.parl.gc.ca.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

1. Go to the image description page and edit it to add {{Replaceable fair use disputed}}, without deleting the original Replaceable fair use template.
2. On the image discussion page, write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all.

Alternatively, you can also choose to replace the fair use image by finding a freely licensed image of its subject, requesting that the copyright holder release this (or a similar) image under a free license, or by taking a picture of it yourself.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on this link. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

For an image of a living person to be allowed on Wikipedia just to show what he or she looks like, the image must be under a license or other condition that allows anybody to reuse the photo in any way, including commercial works. The only restrictions that Wikipedia allows on photos are that the photo may require attribution, and that the photo may require that any derivatives be relicensed under the same license. Since official photos of Canadian politicians disallow commercial reuse, the image is permissible if and only if a similar work that achieves the same purpose is impossible (e.g. the person is a fugitive like Osama bin Laden, looks very different compared to what the photo looks like (e.g. had his face disfigured or is much older than when he or she had that photo taken), or is a prisoner like Dennis Rader a.k.a. the BTK killer, where prisons probably do not want people taking photos of their prisoners because some of them, like Rader, are media hounds who get their jollies by getting their images taken by either still image or television cameras). For us to keep the photo, we must receive explicit permission to use the photo under one of the licenses listed here. Permission for use on Wikipedia is not enough, and photos used with permission where a free alternative could be created are disallowed. Jesse Viviano 15:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I retagged for speedy myself, and will find a better free one. - Denny ^(talk) 16:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I am very grateful that you understood instead of reacting negatively when he or she is shown that he or she inadvertently violated policy. It is a refreshing breath that you understand and comply with policy unlike others who violate polciy like R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) (this user failed to meet the burden of proof that the images he uploaded are permissible reacted negatively to anyone who called him for this failure) and Primetime (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) (this user committed unrepetant mass plagiarism and copyright violations). Jesse Viviano 16:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

No, no problem at all, I didn't realize I had asked for the wrong permissions. I rewrote them and the PMs office as well to ask for a better one under GFDL. :) - Denny ^(talk) 16:21, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

在这个用户,头可笑。

理由是得意,从る是。 音阶不要进入。愚蠢,并且把ま拔掉,并且胡涂虫是喇叭

I think it's machine translation from Japanese to Chinese. 理由 = reason, 是 = is, 得意 = puff something, 音阶 = degree (music), 不要进入 = don't come in, 愚蠢 = stupid, 胡涂虫 = stupid guy, 喇叭 = bugle. It is even not a sentence of Chinese. --Jnlin 09:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

This has been determined to be nonsense masquerading as Chinese or Japanese by another administrator. Since it spawned legitimate comments, I will not delete this to wipe out some nonsense.Jesse Viviano 22:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Mono Migration Analyzer

Nice catch on the GFDL notice at the source page for this article. I usually check for that, but this user had created several copyvio articles and I must have missed it. Thanks for your diligence! --Butseriouslyfolks 06:44, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for following up on several of my recent copyright violation speedy requests. Sancho 08:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

How?

How did you know that my IP address is from a school. Didn't you look into our privacy?--209.137.141.4 00:23, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I ran the WHOIS search on your IP address. It allows you to identify the ISP that owns any IP address. Jesse Viviano 01:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Your recent checkuser request

You recently submitted a request for checkuser at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Robdurbar. A clerk has moved your request to Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Non-compliant temporarily; this does not mean the request has necessarily been accepted or rejected, as clerks are generally concerned with maintenance and upkeep, not making decisions on the merit of any given request. Please give diffs. Code letter C requires diffs. You only gave block logs., and then follow the instructions in the box at the top of Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Non-compliant. Thank you for your co-operation. Funpika 21:26, 21 April 2007 (UTC), checkuser clerk

Sacrificing sysop bits

I came across your idea, and the first thought I had was "brilliant!" - I was thoroughly impressed with it. Cheers, --HappyCamper 14:11, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on this suggestion -- it's great! More: it shows a deep understanding of how large, computer-supported cooperative projects can be administered in a largely decentralized manner. As some Internet engineering geeks used to say as one of their highest compliments, it's a solution that would "scale well" as the size of the wiki community grows. Is there continued discussion of this idea somewhere other than your talk page? Sdsds 03:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

There is no ongoing discussion right now as far as I know, because my original suggestion got archived when the Robdurbar thread got archived at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive232#Robdurbar. My comment can be found at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive232#Possible technical solutions. Maybe we need to move this discussion to the village pump. I am not sure which section of the village pump this suggestion should be debated at, because I can see it fitting into the policy, technical, or proposal sections. I almost never use the village pump myself, so I am rather unfamiliar with it.

By the way, the reason I chose one's sysop status as a sacrifice was that I felt that only a steep price would prevent this ability from getting abused. I also considered an automatic indef block when this ability was used, but that would be meaningless when the user turns around and uses {{Unblock}}. Also, I felt that using this ability would usually mean that an ArbCom case has to be filed anyways to determine which former sysop will be re-promoted, and the automatic indef block would interfere with it. I never thought about wheel wars when I thought of this solution, though a comment in the archives shows that this ability could stop them quickly. If there was a plain old wheel war where none of the administrators really misused their power except to wheel war, both could lose their sysop status (possibly temporarily). Also, this makes an easy way to resign one's sysop status if he points the business end of this ability at himself/herself.

On another note, some possible names for this ability that I could think of would be "sysop kamikaze" and "Equivalent Exchange sacrifice" (inspired by Fullmetal Alchemist). Jesse Viviano 06:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

This is a fantastic idea, and sorry to see it so quickly archived. Count me a supporter. The price should be steep, and it should be very clear that only ONE sysop can get their bit back in these situations. But I think it would dramatically reduce the emergency damage control time for these types of items. I suspect at least 50% less time taken in these situation, and probably less risk that everyone is "gone" so no one can act. Augustz 00:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Just read the proposal in the Wikipedia Signpost. An excellent idea that cuts down on abuse and encourages resolution of serious admin disputes through discussion and mediation. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 15:31, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Also read your suggestion on Wikipedia Signpost. Brilliant idea! Studying to become WCNA (Wikipedia Certified Network Associate) just now or what? --Edcolins 22:40, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I did not understand what you meant. Please see further debate at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Sacrificing your own sysop bit to desysop one other administrator. Jesse Viviano 02:04, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I was just kidding (I saw you were CCNA certified). Thanks for the great idea again, and for the information about the further debate. Happy editing! --Edcolins 10:44, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Submitted to Bugzilla for further debate and implementation as Bug 9710

Since this requires software modification, I submitted this to the MediaWiki Bugzilla. Please send further debate there. Jesse Viviano 16:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

It seems that the developers rejected this stating that they need to see consensus. Jesse Viviano 16:28, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Where would concerned editors debate the matter? ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 16:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I just posted this at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Sacrificing your own sysop bit to desysop one other administrator for debate. Jesse Viviano 16:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

User:208:218:216:201

Thank you for your comment. I accept that you are more experienced than I am. This user has a lifetime total of twenty-six vandalism warnings and three previous blocks (I take your point about one of them) with no sensible edits of any kind whatsoever. No, I do not feel that a shorter block is appropriate. Having said that, if you choose to unblock and shorten I will not start a wheel war about it. But I would be interested to hear your views as to why my decision is unreasonable. --Anthony.bradbury 01:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, on looking at userpages, you are not more experienced than I am.--Anthony.bradbury 01:10, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I see that he is now claiming that someone else did it. If you believe that, you will believe anything. Just leave it blocked as I left it, OK?--Anthony.bradbury 01:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Please, let us not get into a wheel war over this. Given that we essentially agree in principle, it's not worth it. I have never been in a wheel war, and I really do not want to start now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anthony.bradbury (talk • contribs) 01:34, 26 April 2007 (UTC).

I do not quite see the point of unblocking, and then re-blocking for the same time-span. Is there a good reason for this manoevre?--Anthony.bradbury 01:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Millia Rage

• Good call. I'm only mad I didn't do it first. ^_^ JuJube 03:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

  I just had a passing interest in Guilty Gear, and was lucky enough to catch the error. I would buy Guilty Gear X2 if I had a job and the money it would bring me. Jesse Viviano 03:14, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

aiv

Thanks for reminding me of the way AIV works. I was informed that if an IP has been previously blocked for excessive vandalism of a certain type (such as making fake links, a very specific activity) and then continues the same type continues after the block, then three separate warnings is not a necessity and one will suffice. VanTucky 17:52, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Robdurbar

Hey Jesse, I made a small adjustment to the sockpuppet template you placed on Robdurbar's userpage, just for clarity. I'm picky :) If you wish to revert, that's fine. Cheers, – Riana_ऋ 16:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

James Lee (Canadian politician)

Hello JV, while reverting & fixing up the James Lee artilce, I accidently reverted your resume tag (not sure how to restore it). Thought I'd let you know. GoodDay 20:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for removing the resume. If you want to restore that tag, place the code that follows the colon at the top of the article: {{Like-resume}} Jesse Viviano 21:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll leave the 'resume' tag off. As for references? Finding those are beyond my abilities. GoodDay 21:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Request for help due to personal attacks

Hi Jesse (if I may call you Jesse). We had a short discussion about a JumboTron image I uploaded a while back. Since you're an admin, I was wondering if you could help me out - I'm having trouble figuring out how to report someone who's making personal attacks against me. He is upset about my (and others') reversions of a blatantly inappropriate link he continues to add to a Emo (slang) (see the history page, noting User:Sushi-x). His attacks can be seen on my talk page (check the history if it winds up being blanked or anything). Any help you can offer would be appreciated. Thanks. Cheeser1 02:55, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Next time you spot a personal attack on anyone, use one of the personal attack templates at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace. If you have used a template that mentions the potential for being blocked, and the user performs another personal attack, report him or her at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism if it is a clear-cut case or Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents if the case is more complicated, or go to Wikipedia:Resolving disputes, which is our dispute resolution process, in case it is complicated enough that you need other Wikipedians to help resolve the dispute. Note that the dispute resolution process can backfire on you if it turns out that you are in the wrong. If you are in the right, the other party will get a strong censure. I will warn your personal attacker to quit it, or else face blocking. Jesse Viviano 05:15, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much! Cheeser1 13:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Checkuser case completed

Hi, A checkuser IP Check case you filled has been completed by a CheckUser, and archived. You can find the results for 7 days at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/IP check/Archive. -- lucasbfr ^talk, checkuser clerk, 20:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC).

Hollar

Hollar is not a 'fake' word, nor is the notion of a hollar a 'hoax'. Simply because is was flagged and somehow deleted does not make the word contextually illegitimate. As I used for my protest, the word is widely recognized in most Appalachian areas of the United States, as well as referenced many times in American folk music and culture in general. Hollar is not a hoax.Gunny847 01:35, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I myself have lived in the deep south for most of my life (mostly in Alabama, unfortunately. The state government there is extremely corrupt, lame, and does not care for its citizens there. I am glad I moved out of there!), and never ever heard that word used in that way, so I thought it was a hoax. Anyways, please send dictionary definitions to Wiktionary. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, but Wiktionary is.Jesse Viviano 01:41, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

GFDL in translation

The AfD of the Regno d'Italia... article presents an interesting twist on GFDL matters, I posted a further comment there, but given the likely "slam dunk" outcome of that Afd, the issue which will recur will not receive the thoughtful consideration it is due: A quick recap of my comment is below, but I'd like to get your take on this:

The whole GFDL issue is murky when it comes to intra-WP transfers. We have these "requests for translation", when someone actually does that, how is the GFDL complied with based on the (non-English language) original contents? For example, just perusing through Wikipedia:Translation/*/Completed_Translations/April_2007, I took the first article listed: Jean Fourastié, which has an en:WP history that goes back to April 18, 2007. However, it was translated from the fr:Jean Fourastié, which has a history going back to July 13, 2005; this history has not been imported to the English-language article, yet presumably the GFDL would require some credit be given to the French-language authors whose work was translated to create the English-language article.

Carlossuarez46 18:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

RE: Complaint

Thank you for making a complaint, to view the reply please click the section heading above.

Remember if you are happy with the responce please change the "YES OR NO" to yes. Or to NO if your not.

Best Regards

Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 18:56, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Resolved [1] Thanks for your time Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 19:05, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

A question about listing voice/movie roles

Hi. I was just wondering about this: when listing the roles of actors, seiyuus or the like, should one add the role to the end of the list, so that the roles are in random order, or should they be in chronological or alphabetical order? Nanettea 09:40, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I almost never edit anime and manga articles because even though I am interested in them, I do not know enough to do edits other than grammar fixes, removal of nonsense and vandalism, and removing bad speedy deletion tags. Please ask WikiProject Anime and manga's people at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga. Jesse Viviano 15:14, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Nanettea 12:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)