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The Norexan class ships have no measured capacity, and the Valdore was disabled through a tactical maneuver by the reman warship.

The second, unnamed Norexan in the scene was only presumably destroyed.

Since no Romulan ship has ever been identified on live-action screen as a "Bird Of Prey" this article should not use the term "Romulan Bird of Prey" at least without placing the term in the context of non-canon.63.172.100.11 17:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All we have to go on is dialogue, it's not great but it is better then nothing, I'm going to see about finding out what they are referred to production scripts as well. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 18:07, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Production scripts are irrelevent. Per Paramount, it must be presented on live action screen for it to be considered canon. Otherwise, it is conjectural. Darin Wagner 18:35, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We don't obey paramount here; cannon is apparently irrelevant, we go with what can be cited; either way the present name is verifiable. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 18:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The "Romulan Bird of Prey" has never been the official name for that craft. The name was spawned from fandom and should be identified as such. I challenge anyone to find an example of any character on Star Trek referring to any Romulan vessel as a "Bird of Prey." If anything, the ENT: Minefield ship should be called a "Warbird" since that name was actually used later on in the series. And if what Paramount says is irrelevent, then so is Wikipedia in my view.Darin Wagner 19:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lieutenant Stiles stated in TOS episode Balance of Terror that the ship was "painted like a large bird-of-prey." - The three words have been stated on screen that is what we have; I challenge you to present something better here. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 19:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On startrek.com, the Romulan ships are identified as "bird-of-prey". I take that to mean that the phrase has become canon. -Captain Jean-Luc Fontaine

Negative. In order for it to be considered "canon" by Paramount, it has to appear on live action screen at the very least. This has been stated in their encyclopedias as well as their technical manuals. The only exceptions they have officially made to this policy were the Janeway novels written by Jeri Taylor, since she was a contributing force in the creation of that character. "Romulan Bird-of-Prey" has not used in any live-action Star Trek production and is thus not a canon term, by the rules set forth by Paramount. The fact that the third party administrators of the startrek.com website have chosen to use the term does not alter Paramount's policy concerning continuity and canon. Darin Wagner 19:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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	On startrek.com, the Romulan ships are identified as "bird-of-prey". I take that to mean that the phrase has become canon. -Captain Jean-Luc Fontaine		On startrek.com, the Romulan ships are identified as "bird-of-prey". I take that to mean that the phrase has become canon. -Captain Jean-Luc Fontaine

			Negative. In order for it to be considered "canon" by Paramount, it has to appear on live action screen at the very least. This has been stated in their encyclopedias as well as their technical manuals. The only exceptions they have officially made to this policy were the Janeway novels written by Jeri Taylor, since she was a contributing force in the creation of that character. "Romulan Bird-of-Prey" has not used in any live-action Star Trek production and is thus not a canon term, by the rules set forth by Paramount. The fact that the third party administrators of the startrek.com website have chosen to use the term does not alter Paramount's policy concerning continuity and canon. [[User:Darin Wagner\|Darin Wagner]] 19:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)