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This article reads too much like an essay and less like an ecyclopedia article. Phrases like "There can be no doubt" and using words like "thus" and "therefore" over and over makes this sound too opinionated.--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 14:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC) |
This article reads too much like an essay and less like an ecyclopedia article. Phrases like "There can be no doubt" and using words like "thus" and "therefore" over and over makes this sound too opinionated.--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 14:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC) |
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This article is also quite "anti-water cannon", it is used in many contries in Europe without any public opposition. Thus, the neutrality of this article could be questioned (as with the sewer water thing), furthermore water cannon for riot supression should be separated from water cannons/monitors for fire supression. I am a fireman and could add a few things myself about water monitors, but this page is too messy. [[User:Dvortex|Dvortex]] 17:46, 1 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 17:46, 1 June 2007
References
This article has not a single reference in it. I'm tempted to put the page up for a Prod, or AfD, but I'm marking it for cleanup. --RedHillian 04:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- There are thousands of people who have seen watercannons in use, and hundreds of police who have used them, who could comment on this article. Anthony Appleyard 06:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- Are any of them notable and verifiable? If so please, add them in and help turn this into a good article. --RedHillian 06:32, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Essay?
This article reads too much like an essay and less like an ecyclopedia article. Phrases like "There can be no doubt" and using words like "thus" and "therefore" over and over makes this sound too opinionated.--Piemanmoo 14:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
This article is also quite "anti-water cannon", it is used in many contries in Europe without any public opposition. Thus, the neutrality of this article could be questioned (as with the sewer water thing), furthermore water cannon for riot supression should be separated from water cannons/monitors for fire supression. I am a fireman and could add a few things myself about water monitors, but this page is too messy. Dvortex 17:46, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Relevance?
Several sections of this article, especially those which discuss anti-riot use of water cannons, are full of irrelevant information. For example the study on the mortality rates of rubber bullets in the UK is of no meaning to the topic. Moreover, the paragraph long entry on the use of pepper spray is also baseless. Finally, the author has not added citations to back up his seemingly made-up statements like, "In 2002 in Salt Lake City, during the Winter Olympics, an unruly crowd was dispersed with a few pepper ball guns. This was covered by the press and seemed to play better on television than water cannons would have." Article needs substantial revision. Rugz 05:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Sewage cannon?
The article cites an article which describes the use of sewage in water cannons as opposed to plain water. This citation links to the "China Workers" page. I can't be certain but this source seems heavily biased as it is a pro-union, semi-anarchist orginzation which may be opposed to globalization. Someone who is more versed in the material should review this links credibility. Rugz 05:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC)