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*'''Comment''' I appreciate that, but it's not my intention to 'level threats or make personal attacks' on anyone. I simply stated how i feel, which is what everyone has done. Don't blame me for being assertive when it comes to defending what I think is important. [[User:Tparker393|Tparker393]] 19:48, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I appreciate that, but it's not my intention to 'level threats or make personal attacks' on anyone. I simply stated how i feel, which is what everyone has done. Don't blame me for being assertive when it comes to defending what I think is important. [[User:Tparker393|Tparker393]] 19:48, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Not every judge is notable--there are tens of thousands of people who have served as a judge in the U.S. in one capacity or another. Has this judge worked on even ''one'' high-profile, notable case? No, there is no evidence given of that. True, he was college roommates with someone who now holds high public office, but the only way that would ever be notable would be if the judge owes his position to his friendship with the senator, which no one has so far suggested. The person who created the article has already admitted that the only reason he created it is because it's about his dad and he's proud of him. That's a nice sentiment, but it doesn't create notability. Furthermore, Tparker393's outbursts and violations of Wikipedia civility standards further damage his case through emotionalism, when he would be better off assembling and presenting independently verifiable ''evidence'' of his father's notability, if any indeed exists. --Stan [[User:4.246.120.153|4.246.120.153]] 20:18, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Not every judge is notable--there are tens of thousands of people who have served as a judge in the U.S. in one capacity or another. Has this judge worked on even ''one'' high-profile, notable case? No, there is no evidence given of that. True, he was college roommates with someone who now holds high public office, but the only way that would ever be notable would be if the judge owes his position to his friendship with the senator, which no one has so far suggested. The person who created the article has already admitted that the only reason he created it is because it's about his dad and he's proud of him. That's a nice sentiment, but it doesn't create notability. Furthermore, Tparker393's outbursts and violations of Wikipedia civility standards further damage his case through emotionalism, when he would be better off assembling and presenting independently verifiable ''evidence'' of his father's notability, if any indeed exists. --Stan [[User:4.246.120.153|4.246.120.153]] 20:18, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment'''. Just to give an idea of proportion: The ratio of circuit court judges to citizens in [[Fairfax County, Virginia]] is one judge for 55,000 people. A similar ratio is found in [[Prince William County, Virginia]] – 5 circuit court judges for 280,000 people, or 1:56,000. Extrapolating that to a nationwide population of 300 million, that would be about 5,400 judges of comparable notability. So, Stan is right that there have been tens of thousands of judges of comparable notability in the entire history of the U.S. However, it is worth considering that the U.S. population was only 150 million as late as [[1950]], and in [[1900]] was only 76 million. See [http://www.census.gov/population/censusdata/urpop0090.txt]. So, it may not be in the high tens of thousands. And, I am not sure that anyone is contemplating writing an article about all of them. I think this is a borderline case as the article stands now. Perhaps more facts to establish notability will emerge. [[User:24.54.208.177|24.54.208.177]] 01:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment'''. Just to give an idea of proportion: The ratio of circuit court judges to citizens in [[Fairfax County, Virginia]] is one judge for 55,000 people. A similar ratio is found in [[Prince William County, Virginia]] – 5 circuit court judges for 280,000 people, or 1:56,000. Extrapolating that to a nationwide population of 300 million, that would be about 5,400 judges of comparable notability. So, Stan is right that there have been tens of thousands of judges of comparable notability in the entire history of the U.S. However, it is worth considering that the U.S. population was only 150 million as late as [[1950]], and was only 76 million on [[1900]]. See [http://www.census.gov/population/censusdata/urpop0090.txt]. So, it may not be in the high tens of thousands. And, I am not sure that anyone is contemplating writing an article about all of them. I think this is a borderline case as the article stands now. Perhaps more facts to establish notability will emerge. [[User:24.54.208.177|24.54.208.177]] 01:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak delete''', vanity, no evidence of independent notability beyond his office. I would change this vote if evidence of individual notability is provided. I agree with Stan, above, on all points. [[User:Barno|Barno]] 20:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak delete''', vanity, no evidence of independent notability beyond his office. I would change this vote if evidence of individual notability is provided. I agree with Stan, above, on all points. [[User:Barno|Barno]] 20:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', even all of the US federal Circuit Court judges are not notable, unless they become involved in high profile cases. We certainly don't need articles on every state judge, unless, he, too, is involved in notable cases. [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 21:10, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', even all of the US federal Circuit Court judges are not notable, unless they become involved in high profile cases. We certainly don't need articles on every state judge, unless, he, too, is involved in notable cases. [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 21:10, May 10, 2005 (UTC)

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Jeffrey W. Parker

Non-notable family-heavy bio of User:Tparker393's pa; principal author is User:Rad Racer, claimed by User:205.217.105.2 (accused sock of the blocked User:Iasson) as a sock of himself; other two edits are by User:159.169.57.3 and subject's son User:Tparker393, who claims to have authored one of 159's contribs (and is at this moment blocked as a vandal, for trying to hide info on a troubled VfD page about their relationship. Creation may be means of establishing background for sock that is inconsistent with sock-master's background, or just part of giving the sock a month's history (with 16 edit including VfD). (Or maybe someone is waiting for this to become another battleground.) This nomination is also a Del vote. --Jerzy~t 00:00, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Virginia Circuit Court judge nominated VfD unsigned. Red herring of the day: His eldest son is a Wikipedian who has edited this article once while logged in. Important fact of the day: a brief Google of "Jeffrey W. Parker circuit court Fauquier County Virginia" would get you to the Fauquier County, Virginia Circuit Court page that proves this isn't a hoax. Circuit Court judges are inherently notable.--Unfocused 03:42, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Well, it was unsigned when I loaded the VfD page. Now I see a big paragraph. Sorry. --Unfocused 03:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Re your "Red herring" criterion, no, not just one. The Wp'ian
      • is known to have edited it once,
      • implicitly claims two one more edits, and
      • his misbehavior suggests he is another sock-puppet of the admitted puppet-master (205, mentioned above) of the contributor of all the other edits. (Or perhaps "Parker" is the real puppet-master, of whom 205 is just one more puppet.)
      There can be no presumption of the content being contributed in good faith or at arms' length.
    --Jerzy~t 08:05 & 08:10, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - not sure that I would call state circuit court judges inherently notable. Depends on the setup of the state government - in my home state of Florida, the circuit courts are near the bottom of the pile. -- BDAbramson thimk 03:50, 2005 May 10 (UTC)
  • Keep Semi-important public official and community leader. Maybe not as important as Alan de Jardin... ---Isaac R 03:57, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • County circuit court judges are NOT inherently notable. Absent any real sign of notability, delete. --Calton | Talk 07:07, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, NN. Radiant_* 08:52, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, notable. See [1]. A Circuit Court, in Virginia, has appellate jurisdiction over General District Court and Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court, and also hears all felony cases for the county. It is also a court of record that sets legal precedents. A circuit court judge is probably at least as notable as a state delegate or senator. Jeff Parker is in fact the ONLY circuit court judge who sits in Fauquier County, Virginia. I cast this vote, by the way, with knowledge that votes from non-logged-in accounts may carry less weight than those logged-in accounts. As for sockpuppetry allegations related to Tparker393, I refer readers to Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Formal_statement_of_User:205.217.105.2_.2F_User:24.54.208.177. Jerzy drew some reasonable conclusions about sockpuppetry, given the evidence, but he just didn't happen to be correct, and at this point I would expect him to withdraw the allegations by striking them through above. 205.217.105.2 12:38, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you for some very useful comments. But you really should consider getting an account. Its not a lot of hassle, and would give your contributions more weight. ---Isaac R 16:05, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The position of Circuit Court Judge is notable and this article does not deserve to be deleted. Parker is a former law partner of current U.S. Senator George Allen. His service to community, commitment to justice and leadership is worthy of an article about him here. Tparker393 16:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This message is for Jerzy and those who are connected with him in this ignoble effort to delete an article that doesn't warrant such action. Yeah, you're right- he is my father, and I'm proud of him. He has accomplished more than someone who just sits behind his computer all day trying to incite arguments. Also, I'm not a sockpuppet, I didn't even know what that was until this morning. I often forget to login before making comments but I have nothing to hide and could care less about 'stuffing a ballot box'. Sorry if i caused any confusion. But your reckless bullying tactics that have spurred this article's vfd are nothing short of despicable. You are a terrible excuse for an admin and hopefully others will take notice- or perhaps they will be notified. Tparker393 16:07, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment. I'm not sufficiently familiar with the structure of the nooks and crannies of the U.S. court system to evaluate whether a Virginia Circuit Court judge is sufficiently notable for an encyclopedia. I would remind Tparker393 that levelling threats and making personal attacks on other editors is neither persuasive, helpful, polite, nor permitted by Wikipedia policy. --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 17:43, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I appreciate that, but it's not my intention to 'level threats or make personal attacks' on anyone. I simply stated how i feel, which is what everyone has done. Don't blame me for being assertive when it comes to defending what I think is important. Tparker393 19:48, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Not every judge is notable--there are tens of thousands of people who have served as a judge in the U.S. in one capacity or another. Has this judge worked on even one high-profile, notable case? No, there is no evidence given of that. True, he was college roommates with someone who now holds high public office, but the only way that would ever be notable would be if the judge owes his position to his friendship with the senator, which no one has so far suggested. The person who created the article has already admitted that the only reason he created it is because it's about his dad and he's proud of him. That's a nice sentiment, but it doesn't create notability. Furthermore, Tparker393's outbursts and violations of Wikipedia civility standards further damage his case through emotionalism, when he would be better off assembling and presenting independently verifiable evidence of his father's notability, if any indeed exists. --Stan 4.246.120.153 20:18, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment. Just to give an idea of proportion: The ratio of circuit court judges to citizens in Fairfax County, Virginia is one judge for 55,000 people. A similar ratio is found in Prince William County, Virginia – 5 circuit court judges for 280,000 people, or 1:56,000. Extrapolating that to a nationwide population of 300 million, that would be about 5,400 judges of comparable notability. So, Stan is right that there have been tens of thousands of judges of comparable notability in the entire history of the U.S. However, it is worth considering that the U.S. population was only 150 million as late as 1950, and was only 76 million on 1900. See [2]. So, it may not be in the high tens of thousands. And, I am not sure that anyone is contemplating writing an article about all of them. I think this is a borderline case as the article stands now. Perhaps more facts to establish notability will emerge. 24.54.208.177 01:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete, vanity, no evidence of independent notability beyond his office. I would change this vote if evidence of individual notability is provided. I agree with Stan, above, on all points. Barno 20:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, even all of the US federal Circuit Court judges are not notable, unless they become involved in high profile cases. We certainly don't need articles on every state judge, unless, he, too, is involved in notable cases. RickK 21:10, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete as above - not all judges are encyclopedic. CDC (talk) 21:15, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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