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Christian Bartolf

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I originally speedied this article under CSD A7 (no assertion of notability). It was re-created, so I'm taking it to AfD to get community input. The article contains no evidence that the subject of the article meets WP:BIO; the external links don't constitute multiple non-trivial coverage of the person himself in independent sources. Also an autobiographical article created by User:Chrbartolf who identifies on his userpage as the subject of the article. Walton^{alternate account} 10:55, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

The user and subject of the biography in question is running the Berlin based Gandhi Information Center. I also question the notabitity of this institution. There he is continuisly removing and notability templates. There is also an edit-war since some month on his own notabilty at his birth place Lübeck.--Kresspahl 11:16, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

User:Chrbartolf again removed the deletion template from the article Christian Bartolf.--Kresspahl 12:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

• Delete for probably COI and complete failure to establish notability. All external links are to subject's own writings. --Nonstopdrivel 13:42, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia is not MySpace.--Edtropolis 15:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as COI of subject that fails WP:BIO. Eusebeus 15:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete unless reliable sources can establish his notability. A fascinating individual, but fascination does not notability make. Can't tell if the Deutsche Nationalbibliothek reference cited in the article qualifies or not, but wouldn't presume that it does. LaughingVulcan 15:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Doesn't the Deutsche Nationalbibliothek reference merely show that his own organization has published his work? Or is there more to this listing? SiobhanHansa 19:23, 19 June 2007 (UTC)True, its a National Library. They get every publication published in Germany and have to show it in their catalogue.--Kresspahl 19:37, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
• Not Delete: It's all because exaggerating "Kresspahl" does not want Bartolf to be a notable person of Luebeck. Of course, Deutsche Nationalbibliothek does qualify Bartolf's publications! These now given reliable sources establish his notability. Anything else is arbitrary and again dirty policy! Just for getting rid of an entry of a "fascinating individual" whose books have been quoted by many scholars as a reliable source. This "procedure", as "Kresspahl" calls it, should not work this way ... Chrbartolf

Delete - The question is not what I want you to be or not. You personly insist on being notable to a city, where no one except me seems to know you. And I only know you from vandalizing the Lübeck article for month. Otherwise your merits would have been claimed at least by some notable third parties there. I am one of the main contributors of Lübeck related articles in the German WP. So its not a personal thing, but you have to accept, that your relevance there is around zero compared to the others like Thomas Mann, Willy Brandt or Günther Grass. Sorry! --Kresspahl 19:37, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

• Delete This guy does not appear notable Puppy Mill 20:36, 19 June 2007 (UTC)