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:::Is it sad that that the socks keep coming back every so often? I've indef'd two more.--[[User:Wizardman|<span style="color:#0F0;background:#006">Wizardman</span>]] 03:00, 5 May 2007 (UTC) |
:::Is it sad that that the socks keep coming back every so often? I've indef'd two more.--[[User:Wizardman|<span style="color:#0F0;background:#006">Wizardman</span>]] 03:00, 5 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== A class article == |
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So...on a completely different subject...what do we need to get this article to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Assessment#Quality_scale|A-class?]]. A peer review is obvious, but what do we need done to start talking [[WP:FAC|featured article candidate]]? This article was granted "good article", but with no positive nor negative feedback to this end. [[User:Skybunny|Skybunny]] 05:26, 15 February 2007 (UTC) |
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:It's hard to edit with it being locked :/ ++[[User:aviper2k7|<span style="color:green;font-weight:bold;">aviper2k7</span>]]++ 05:28, 15 February 2007 (UTC) |
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:Are you sure? It's not showing up as locked for me. (Only semi-protected.) In any case, is it a fair discussion to have? [[User:Skybunny|Skybunny]] 05:30, 15 February 2007 (UTC) |
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::I guess it's not anymore. I think someone should go through the entire article and correct some grammar. I admit, I'm not the best English student, but I spot some absent commas and some oddly placed commas where there should be a semi-colon.++[[User:aviper2k7|<span style="color:green;font-weight:bold;">aviper2k7</span>]]++ 05:33, 15 February 2007 (UTC) |
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:::The article has been unprotected (we'll try to deal with sock attacks otherwise). Please go ahead and improve the article to FA status! [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] [[User_talk:Kusma|(討論)]] 15:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC) |
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One pattern I see widespread in this article is what amounts to POV commentary. Examples: |
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* ''He clawed his way up from the seventh string to the backup job...'' |
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* ''Favre's college career was turned upside down on July 14, 1990...'' |
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* ''Favre replaced Majkowski and did not play well during most of the game...'' |
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Statements like this are not acceptable in a featured article class article. With regard to the second statement, his coach is later ''quoted'' as saying Favre was "larger than life", which is fine as long as it's referenced, but statements like the above can't stay in here when the point of reference is the encyclopedia itself. Facts have to speak for themselves; what's going on above is editorial commentary suggesting what a reader should feel. Any subjective statement like ''One of the defining moments of Favre's career, and arguably his greatest game ever, took place on December 22, 2003...'' should be backed up by references which make both assertions. They're out there; the point is, they need to be in here. [[User:Skybunny|Skybunny]] 16:20, 15 February 2007 (UTC) |
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:I wanted to ask if maybe the line, "''He is of French and Choctaw ancestry; one of his paternal grandparents was a Native American affiliated with the Choctaw,''" could be moved into the early years section? Just seems a little odd in the opening paragraph, which talks mainly about his career. '''<font color="#B9B9B9" face="times">[[Special:Contributions/Oncamera|on]]</font><font color="#DA8FC0" face="times">[[User:Oncamera|camera]]</font>'''<font color="#B9B9B9"><sup>[[User talk:Oncamera|(t)]]</sup></font> 02:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC) |
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::Seems reasonable to me. Favre is generally known for his career more than his parentage. [[User:Skybunny|Skybunny]] 02:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC) |
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::Agreed. Do it! –'''''[[User:King Bee|King Bee]]''''' <sup>([[User talk:King Bee|T]] • [[Special:Contributions/King Bee|C]])</sup> 02:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Alright, I moved it, but edit any grammar/structure if it needs it. '''<font color="#B9B9B9" face="times">[[Special:Contributions/Oncamera|on]]</font><font color="#DA8FC0" face="times">[[User:Oncamera|camera]]</font>'''<font color="#B9B9B9"><sup>[[User talk:Oncamera|(t)]]</sup></font> 02:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC) |
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::::After an edit conflict, I added a bit to the lead. It should be 3-4 paragraphs, and should summarize the subject clearly (and give the reader a reason to read the whole thing). The lead could use a bit more work, and it should probably mention something about his father's death and the game after (possibly).++[[User:aviper2k7|<span style="color:green;font-weight:bold;">aviper2k7</span>]]++ 03:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::I added the part about him drinking back in, seems rather notable due to the 16 part JS piece on Favre. Also, there's some redundant Wikilinks, so if you see repeating ones, take them out, or Wikilinks deemed unhelpful++[[User:aviper2k7|<span style="color:green;font-weight:bold;">aviper2k7</span>]]++ 03:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC) |
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==Intro== |
==Intro== |
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Does his personal life really belong in the intro? I'm just saying that as you don't usually see it: I mean it's not what he known for. [[User:Trevor GH5|Trevor GH5]] 05:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
Does his personal life really belong in the intro? I'm just saying that as you don't usually see it: I mean it's not what he known for. [[User:Trevor GH5|Trevor GH5]] 05:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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Watch out for socks
Do not trust any edit summaries on the page, many of them are fake summaries by sockpuppets of banned user Starwars1955, sometimes made by accounts that try to impersonate administrators. Kusma (討論) 21:59, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. I noticed that I edited right after a sock, not paying attention to the edit before me. –King Bee (T • C) 22:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- And a total of 72 users and anons later, I think we may be past all of this. PSUMark2006 talk | contribs 03:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- Is it sad that that the socks keep coming back every so often? I've indef'd two more.--Wizardman 03:00, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Intro
Does his personal life really belong in the intro? I'm just saying that as you don't usually see it: I mean it's not what he known for. Trevor GH5 05:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
- Also, shouldn't Family tragedies be re-named Personal life and deal with all aspects of his personal life and not just his family tragedies? Trevor GH5 23:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Vicodin
Is it notable to put that Brett Favre was addicted to vicodin in the '93-'95 seasons? I've ready his auto-biography, and about one-third of it was about his addiction to vicodin. Pbroks13 16:07, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- It's already there, somewhat. From the "Beginning years..." section: "While being treated for various injuries, Brett Favre developed an addiction to painkillers. This became known when he suffered a seizure during a hospital visit. While the NFL investigated, he went public to avoid various rumors. In May 1996, he was immediately forced into treatment by the NFL and remained in rehabilitation for 46 days." Adam Weeden 19:37, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
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