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Futurama

previous FAC

Futurama seems to be a FA, it has fixed all the criteria from the last FA nom. -- (Cocoaguy ここがいい _contribs^talk) 01:42, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Oppose - several image issues. Image:Doop logo.png at least needs distinct fair-use rationales for each use, and probably is excessive as used here. I have questions about whether Image:Alien decoder.PNG can really be released into the public domain - either the font's creator or Fox would probably hold the rights to that font even if it's re-created or morphed around here (it'd still be a derivative work). Image:Logo 30th century fox.jpg and Image:Kleins-beer (futurama).jpg have no fair-use rationales and could probably both be removed without detracting from the article. (ESkog)^(Talk) 01:51, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd be willing to add fair use rationale as appropriate and I'll have a look at the inclusion of those pics, the discussion of the Fox Logo is uncited anyway so it might be better to remove that discussion and the associated pic. I'm wondering how you think the Alien decoder image should be dealt with, would it be more appropriate to list it with some other status or as a fair use? Stardust8212 13:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Support - Greatly informative article! Although about the images: If... If the Alien Language decoder chart must be replaced, it can be replaced with a framegrab of just some random Alien Language text from the show, perhaps the letter from Leela's parents in "Leela's Homeworld". Just enough to satisfy for fair-use, to show a sample of the symbols. As for the others... The DOOP logo and the Earth flag are both justified, in my opinion, especially in their own respective articles. The Klein Bottles pic is informatory of the nerdy humour in the show, and the 30th Century FOX logo is most certainly an icon of the series. The only problem I really have at all with the article is that Bender is described as being 'alcoholic'. I believe it should be noted that Bender needs alcohol, or else he becomes the human equivalent of drunk. The word 'alcoholic' has rather different connotations. Other than that, fantastic article. Wish I had written more of it. - ТģØ(Đ {ŧª∫Қ ↑¤ Мә} 05:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

• Comment I see one {{fact}} tag so far.--Rmky87 13:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
• Object Not enough inline citations. In the days where the standard is to reference most sentences, the fact that most paras are not referenced sinks this article. Stubby paras ('Robots', 'Sewer Mutants' (do they really deserve a section at all?)), and 'References to Futurama in popular culture' would look better in paragraph form, not a list.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  20:28, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments, I fully agree with your comments about the stubby paragraphs and I have merged them together and I will have a look at the pop culture section later. If you don't mind my asking, specifically which paragraphs do you feel require more citations? I would be more than happy to work on those issues. Stardust8212 21:00, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

At minimum, you want one citation per paragraph (or more if different sources were used), and for more controversial information, don't hesitate to give inline citations for individual sentences. For popculture, here are some good 'how to do it': Excel Saga (it's the oldest, and it certainly should have a few more citations by modern standards), Serial Experiments Lain (better, missing only a few) and a current FAC, Lupin III (which seems nearly perfect with regards to density of refs).-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  23:45, 11 July 2007 (UTC)