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but most of the literature I have read on him makes it fairly clear that he was highly sympathetic to the movement's pan-South Slav aims. Certainly, statements like "We are all one people, putting aside [differentiation between] the Serbs and the Croats" / "Mi smo svi jedan narod, ostavimo i Srblje i Hrvate" which he made in front of the Sabor in May 1848 (Jaroslav Šidak, Jugoslavenska enciklopedija) and his enthronement by the Serbian Orthodox Patriarch Rajačić would seem to strongly indicate this. Could someone clarify this? |
but most of the literature I have read on him makes it fairly clear that he was highly sympathetic to the movement's pan-South Slav aims. Certainly, statements like "We are all one people, putting aside [differentiation between] the Serbs and the Croats" / "Mi smo svi jedan narod, ostavimo i Srblje i Hrvate" which he made in front of the Sabor in May 1848 (Jaroslav Šidak, Jugoslavenska enciklopedija) and his enthronement by the Serbian Orthodox Patriarch Rajačić would seem to strongly indicate this. Could someone clarify this? |
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That sentence you added is pure fiction. Jelacic had negotiatons with Batthyany last one on '''July 29.''' These were pure falior because Batthyany said famous sentence: " where is this Croatia and who are these croats. I don't see nither on the map" |
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As for Jelacic missing the opportunity I agree. His greatest falior was that he accepted everything that Bach orderd. |
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Petar Kružić |
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== Great leader == |
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The first line reads Baron Josip Jelačić of Bužim. Shouldn't that be count? He was given the title five years before his untimely death which then passed onto his younger brother. The family is known as the Counts of Bužim or, in Croatian, the Counts Bužimski. It is standard on Wikipedia to use the highest titles. I say change it, but I won't do anything on my own without consensus because I don't want to start a revert war.
--193.198.128.156 18:40, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
An edit concerning Jelačić's missed opportunity
I just added a sentence concerning the fact that Jelačić was, after all, the emperor's man. It is important, I believe all aspects of Jelačić's historical role should be shown clearly. There was a very strong historical opportunity for Croatia to become the first independent south slav state. That could have very well had a strong historical impact on the entire region etc... It has to be pointed out clearly that Jelačić had a choice during the revolution and it's reprecussions must be indicated. I hope you would at least look up the article on the battle of Pakozd (which states some of my wiews on the Count) before deleting the edit. DIREKTOR
One brief question that I had while reading this article. In it, it states that Jelačić largely discouraged the Illyrian Movement but most of the literature I have read on him makes it fairly clear that he was highly sympathetic to the movement's pan-South Slav aims. Certainly, statements like "We are all one people, putting aside [differentiation between] the Serbs and the Croats" / "Mi smo svi jedan narod, ostavimo i Srblje i Hrvate" which he made in front of the Sabor in May 1848 (Jaroslav Šidak, Jugoslavenska enciklopedija) and his enthronement by the Serbian Orthodox Patriarch Rajačić would seem to strongly indicate this. Could someone clarify this?
@ Direktor
That sentence you added is pure fiction. Jelacic had negotiatons with Batthyany last one on July 29. These were pure falior because Batthyany said famous sentence: " where is this Croatia and who are these croats. I don't see nither on the map" As for Jelacic missing the opportunity I agree. His greatest falior was that he accepted everything that Bach orderd.
Petar Kružić
Great leader
Fought western oppression from Croatia, much like Josip Broz Tito