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July 8

Adding a deleted page which you did not create

Hi, I'll cite the specific example. I was looking up the female 80s alternative rock group, Splendora [[1]], and saw there was no page - so I went to create one. However, when I went to do it it said that the page had already been created - and deleted in March of this year. I could not find any more information - but I would rather suggest that this page be re-instated, especially if it had information that I do not and if it was a real page for this group. I know that wikipedia tends to delete band pages very often on false positives - some that I've been interested in and which I had to petition to get back - so I wanted to check first. (Never mind that it seems such a waste of time having to constantly petition to get pages back!) Luminifer 12:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Using ref name for multiple use footnote but with page number changes

I have figured out how to use ref name and cite templates for multiple footnotes referring to a single source. I combined a series of references into footnote 1 on Henry Pering Pellew Crease and it tidied things up a lot. There are times though when you want to refer to the same source several times but to a particular page of the source that changes each time you use it like footnotes 2 and 4. Is there a way to do what footnote 4 in that article does using something like ref name? --KenWalker | Talk 00:28, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

• Typically, in the "Pages" section, delineate them by commas, or use multiple references. --Haemo 00:30, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

There is a relatively new template providing a solution to the problem of an article cited many times and which you want to provide the page numbers but keep the citation as a single entry. after each subsequent cite (i.e. after each iteration of "<ref name="The name you chose before"/>, just add {{rp|page number(s)}}. This will make it so that in the text the footnote citation has a page number appended. As an example, if you were citing to page 282-3 of the article's third citation, the footnote would look like this: ^[3]:282-3, while the footnote itself wouldn't change. You can enter for pages listed in the footnote, "various".--Fuhghettaboutit 01:45, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Sounds perfect, thanks.--KenWalker | Talk 02:56, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I think the 'pages=' specification in this overall citation template is meant to be for the total number of pages in the book or journal article. I recommend omitting it altogether because it is easily confused with a page number--not at all helpful! Bjenks (talk) 02:00, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Header for talk page

How do you make your own header like for your Talk page like Gracenotes did. It looks nice and I want to know how to make one. Please explain it simple enough for anyone who reads this to understand, as I am not the top with technical computer language. And please do not answer in Binary Code. ☺Efansay^T/_C☺ 01:01, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

It takes a good bit of code to do something that nice. Best thing to do when you find a layout you like is to click on the Edit link and see what they did. In this case, it's a template stored at User talk:Gracenotes/Header. If you visit that page, and click Edit, you can see exactly how the template was made. -- Kesh 01:47, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

You can try Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help. Or you could start by copying some of the source at User talk:Gracenotes/Header to User talk:Efansay/Header, and then insert this at top of User talk:Efansay:

{{User talk:Efansay/Header|archive = no}}

If you just want the background and orange box with text then you could copy the below from the source of this section:

Welcome to Efansay's talk page! Don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~).

I have replaced with your user name and removed the images (Image:Grace note.svg) which are apparently called grace notes. Give Gracenotes credit if copy content, e.g. with edit summary "uses content from User talk:Gracenotes/Header". I have limited experience with this and don't promise anything will work. PrimeHunter 02:08, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

New user has created parallel article

Hello. A new user has just created the article Union Organizer without realising that there is an existing article Union organiser. His new article is more extensive than the existing stub. I have informed him, but he may not be familiar with the messaging system. It seems silly to have two articles. What should I do? Advice appreciated. Thanks and best regards Tree Kittens 04:42, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Just boldly merge the two articles and make one a redirect. --Haemo 04:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Merging and moving pages for how to do it. PrimeHunter 04:50, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Eek! I've never done a merge or redirect before! Which one do I make into a redirect? In other words, which spelling or title should be the main one and which the redirect? I don't want to freak him out, so I'm not confident of the proper order to do things... Tree Kittens 04:57, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Union Organizer and Union organiser should be merged into Union organizer, as organiser is an alternative spelling of organizer. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions.
I have moved Union Organizer to Union organizer, so Union organiser should be merged into Union organizer, as organiser is an alternative spelling of organizer. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions --Silver Edge 05:29, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Very well. I will edit the text from the older stub into the newer and larger article, which seems to have been renamed already. Then I will delete the content of the older stub and add the markup for redirect and merge as described in Help:Merging and moving pages. It'll be good to learn how to do this. I'll only be able to do it tomorrow, but I will remember. I hope this is ok. Thanks a lot for all your help. Tree Kittens 06:09, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Update - Yay! Completed the merge. Not as complicated as it looks! Thanks again to all. Tree Kittens 23:25, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Search box focus

The site would be much easier to use if the cursor automatically went to the search box, as it does on many sites. Wouldn't this be an easy thing to implement? It would save me alone dozens, even hundreds, of "tabs" a day.--Pharillon 05:32, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

This would be most easily fixed by a setting in your browser. Just turn off the feature that tabs to links, and the Search bar will be the first form item you can tab to. -- Kesh 05:43, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

It is the first one I can tab to; but it would be nicer if one didn't have to tab at all, as on many sites where the search function is a primary one.  • Pharillon • ^(T) 06:29, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

The reason the search box is not selected is that having a focus on part of the page interferes with scrolling. Prodego ^talk 06:51, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Engelbert Humperdinck (singer)

Why is it I have edited the biography of Engelbert Humperdinck (singer) several times, and it was changed at the time I edited, but when I go back into the bio, the changes are back to the original false facts. Engelbert is NOT Anglo-Indian, and neither was his mother. His Mother and Father are both British, but Engelbert was born in India where his father was working. Please correct these mistakes thank you M.Sacker--Msacker 05:33, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Your changes were altered here. I believe you are arguing his heritage, which should be done on the article's Talk page. Note that in many countries, simply being born there grants citizenship. Either way, what we need are verifiable sources as to how he identified himself. -- Kesh 05:48, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

CAN PEOPLE PLACE THEIR RESUMES AS AN ADDED INFO ABOUT THAT PERSON

CAN PEOPLE PLACE THEIR RESUMES AS AN ADDED INFO ABOUT THAT PERSON... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.37.218.162 (talk • contribs).

Can you try to be a bit more specific, please? Sebi _[talk] 09:00, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

If there isn't already an article, don't add a resume. If there is an article, there shouldn't be a 'resume' section either, but the info that you would normally find in a resume (significant work experience, education) should instead be integrated into the article. ssepp^(talk) 12:59, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia. In most cases, the addition of a separate document such as a resume is not useful as encyclopediac content. The very nature of resumes are in the most part, not suitable for an encyclopaedia. For more information about what Wikipedia is not, please see WP:NOT

Thank you,

Kevinwong913 ^{Speak out loud!} 20:07, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

question

Shall i get any answer for the questions which is related to aeronautics —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 122.167.63.121 (talk • contribs).

What question? where?Blacksmith2 ^talk 09:32, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Forcing a preview

I constantly come across history pages that show multiple edits by the same editor in the space of a few minutes, simply because they don't preview their changes before saving them. Wouldn't it be a great idea to force all editors to preview their changes (by removing the save changes button), so that they can only save them after previewing? This seems to be standard procedure on many other interactive websites. (I thought there was a "requested features" page but I can't find it.)--Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:34, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

This would be very annoying to editors who make many small edits to different articles, doing for instance things like fixing spelling errors or bulleting lists and who don't need a preview. Also if for instance if I make a redirect page, I don't need a preview. Forcing everyone to always preview would do more harm than good in my opinion. You can use the template:preview to ask users to preview their edits. I wonder if a solution to messy history pages would be to have an option to 'collapse' editing streaks into a single entry in the history... ssepp^(talk) 12:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Problems in Submitting

I did a tutorial on using Ad-Aware 2007 Free and someone suggested that I put it on WIKI. I tried but it was deleted; the first time, it was for links for images (I deleted them). The next time, I was told not to use WIKI.

Please forgive my error. I will not make it again. suebaby41 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.87.132.183 (talk)

This is Wikipedia. We have an article on Ad-Aware, but Wikipedia is not an instruction manual. There are a lot of other wikis and your subject is probably suitable for some of them. List of wikis has some of the more notable wikis. http://wikiindex.org has far more. PrimeHunter 12:57, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

GRRRRR, lol

Um, hi, I'm Ryan Seacrest.j/k Seruoisely how do i make a submission??? Please reply at my email below: *email removed* Thanks.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.96.243.190 (talk • contribs).

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --Fuhghettaboutit 12:42, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

THANKS!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.96.243.190 (talk)

Please also remember to sign your comments. As a courtesy to other editors, it is a Wikipedia guideline to sign your posts on talk pages, user talk pages, and WikiProject pages. To do so, simply add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments. Your user name or IP address (if you are not logged in) and the date will then be automatically added along with a timestamp when you save your comment. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion). For further info, read Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Thank you. -- S ^up? 13:51, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Template help

The reply to the post directly above this was made with {{creation}}, a new template for the constant question we get here "how do I create a page", but it has functionality problems that are beyond my meager coding skills. The template has two parameters, one for users with accounts: {{subst:Creation|user}} and one for ips: {{subst:Creation|ip}}.

• It displays fine in view mode, but in edit mode, you see a lot of the coding. Specifically, you see {{#switch:ip | ip = (text of template), followed by the entire text of the second parameter. This is done apparently with {{Switch}}, which is deprecated;
• In the template itself, the usage section is supposed to display the text, as it will appear in articles, but the paragraph spacing isn't present;
• Finally, it does have paragraphs, and wouldn't be very readable without, but the problem I see is that right now it only will format correctly if a user posts it with one leading colon. This will work most of the time; but if, for whatever reason, a help desk replier is posting the template as the second replier, and thus uses two leading colons, it will format like this:

First paragraph text

Second paragraph text

Third paragraph text

Is there a way to make it so that all paragraphs of the template will format indented to the same number of leading colons a user places when they type the template? Fixing the template, rather than telling me how would, of course, be preferred;-)--Fuhghettaboutit 13:16, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Great work! I'm glad to see you working on our badly-needed standard response templates for the Help desk. I have a few ideas which you may consider or ignore as you like:

• How about keeping it as simple as possible: have all the standard response templates for the Help desk display their output in a box, like: {{Resolved}} does (and all the infoboxes, user boxes, {{Talkheader}}, etc. Make a template look like a template). Just use a fixed indenting of one level; probably in the vast majority of cases, once the Help desk volunteers get up to speed with the standard response templates, the canned response will be the first response to a question anyway. Then you don't need any elaborate coding to figure out how much to indent multiple paragraphs. In my opinion, struggling to make the template appear to generate a human-typed response complicates the template coding unnecessarily (and undesirably; see below), and limits the number of people who can design and improve more of the many standard response templates we need for the Help desk. We need a simple template design to facilitate the maximum number of Help desk volunteers adding to the collection.
• Putting the template output in a box makes the template output look distinctly different from human-typed output. I think that's a good thing, so other Help desk volunteers can realize that we have templates. The Help desk gets constant volunteer turnover - in six months we will have a whole new crew here, and probably a lot of them will learn how to answer questions by reading other people's answers. So let's make the answers self-documenting as to the methods we use to generate them, or at least make sure they don't look like we wrote all that stuff by hand every time, which could mislead the new volunteers.
  • That's another reason to transclude such a template rather than substitute it, so the wikitext for the question clearly shows other Help desk volunteers where the text came from. I don't think it matters that template text might change in the future, because the Help desk archives are not like a normal article's talk page; we do not need to preserve an exact record of what was said in response at the time. I.e., our answers are more or less disposable here.
  • Making a standard response look like a standard response also drives the point home to questioners that they are getting a canned answer to a frequently asked question. In my opinion, we should be honest about what we are doing, and not try to fool people into thinking we are doing something else. I don't think there's anything to be ashamed of here. We should promote the idea that we have engineered a system to answer questions efficiently, and expose the details for all to see. A new user should learn that there are frequently asked questions and where to find the answers without having to ask another human every time.

--Teratornis 15:34, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Another issue is that we need to document all these standard response templates in a table somewhere (for example, on Wikipedia:Help desk/How to answer), so Help desk volunteers can look them up. Making the template output compact will help keep the table manageable in size. All a standard response template has to do is link to a single FAQ entry anyway. (If we aren't happy with the existing FAQ pages, we can write our own Help desk FAQ.) Sticking a lot of template-generated text directly on the Help desk page makes this already long page even longer. I don't think it burdens the questioner too much to click one link to get the canned answer. Compacting the template output also has the desirable effect of not crowding out any additional human-typed responses. --Teratornis 15:53, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Putting it inside a box is a fine idea and would take care of the indenting issue right off; I agree that it's a good idea to make it obvious it's a canned template response. Note, though, that I have asked for assistance at requested templates, so some uber-template-coding-god will probably be along shortly to fix the {{switch}} and other problems, so I'm not going to change anything for a little while. We do get constant new volunteers, but many faces don't change. I've been fairly regular for a year and a half and recognize others that predate me.

Regarding the transclusion issue: like many templates, it has a commented out <-- Template:name --!> at the end. We can just switch that to the beginning to make it more noticeable (transcluded or not, editors still will have to view it in edit mode to check its origin). The reason I question keeping it transcluded is that most of that ilk are temporary (CSD templates, etc.) while the help desk archives remain forever and will continue to call the template. Think ten years down the road—we may have thousands of these templates calling. So it's not an issue of preserving exact responses to questions, but server load.

(On the more philosophical end of matters) I wholeheartedly agree with you that "new user should learn that there are frequently asked questions and where to find the answers without having to ask another human every time..." but I'm pretty pessimistic it will actually result in anything but marginal returns. I added the standard answer in the VFAQ to this very question (how do I create a new page?); at that time the header for this page was changed to make it very clear the VFAQ existed (it now links to Nubio), what this page was for, and what the refdesk was for and so on. Of course, it's hard to prove a negative, but I think it did bupkis–certainly we haven't seen any reduction in refdesk questions asked here, nor of the question this template was created to answer or other daily VFAQ-answered queries. There's a self-selection process going on: those who would search, did, and never asked their question here; those who didn't, aren't the types to. I know that's a pretty broad brush I'm painting with, but I'm generalizing.--Fuhghettaboutit 16:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

• I think there is another factor to consider: the role of repetition in learning. Most people need to see a really new tidbit of information several times before it sinks in. Something that is alien to their previous experience tends not to "register" the first time. So even if they seem to be ignoring an instruction here, which may be their first ever exposure, possibly they benefit later from having received their first repetition here. They might get it the second or third time around. Another way to look at it: if we don't tell people something they need to know here, we merely postpone the process of giving them the needed repetitions, and possibly shift that part of the training burden onto someone else. So even if it seems our efforts to instruct are futile, I suspect we are planting the first seeds that will only later produce fruit. It seems that virtually every user who goes on to make substantial contributions does eventually learn to navigate the FAQ pages, manuals, etc. So, how do they all learn that lesson? Obviously, someone or something had to tell them, and probably several times. We should not shrink from our chance to get the first repetition in, even if there is no instantly visible payoff. A farmer who plants seeds cannot judge their success the next day.
• About server load: as far as I know, templates only load the server when someone views a page that transcludes them. Since we don't have hit counters on Wikipedia pages, we don't know how many people are viewing the Help desk archives. However, I would be very surprised to hear the Help desk archives are getting enough views to generate significant server load. If people were looking frequently at the Help desk archives, we might not get so many repeat questions. It might actually be better for server resources to shrink the size of the (infrequently viewed?) Help desk archives by compacting their repetitive content into template calls. That is, if we have large pages that few people view, maybe it is better to make them a bit smaller. Admittedly, this whole issue is hypothetical since we have no solid data about number of views and server loads or the future relative costs of CPU vs. storage etc. I would think the value of having clean wikitext for Help desk volunteers to learn from outweighs the hypothetical downside of template-laden but probably seldom-viewed Help desk archive pages. That is, I would take the known benefit for the doubtful cost. (But that's just me; see below for my comments on how to make everybody happy.) --Teratornis 19:08, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Regarding your follow-up post: So are you suggesting that instead of having the standard templates contain the canned answer, the template should say something to the effect of

"This question and other frequently asked questions are answered at [[______]]. Please read that page?" Or maybe: "See [[______#how do I create a page]]", or do you mean that the canned template should be far more terse, giving the answer and referring them to a faq for more information?

I would be opposed to the last of these. The template should either refer to another place where a full explanation is given without giving the answer, or give the full explanation, but not give the answer without forcing someone to read on. We want people to have to read about notability, and COI, and formatting and searching first, and other policies, before they get the answer (did you see my post on the talk page where I alluded to this when I announced the template's creation?) If users are provided a link to how to create a page in a compact answer, most won't go to the faq, they'll just create the page without reading about all the issues. Keeping this short, because I'm not sure I grok you.--Fuhghettaboutit 17:01, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Not necessarily instead of standard response templates containing the full text of the canned answer, but in addition to. There is no limit to the number of templates we can make. It's probably a good idea to have several alternative templates to answer the same question, so we can evolve different design styles without getting into edit wars or philosophy arguments over one particular template (like we are doing with the Help desk instructions! People keep adding instructions, then someone comes in and chops them down, then people add bits back, etc.). In my opinion, the first priority is to make the Help desk fun for the helpers, because if the helpers don't have fun, they leave. Any (correct) help is better than no help, I think, and more helpers are better than fewer. Therefore, if some helpers like to use explicit, verbose standard response templates, and other helpers want compact (one-sentence) templates, or very compact (one shortcut link) templates, everybody should get the templates they want. I don't see a reason to force everyone to answer questions the same way (and anyone who thinks a terse answer is too terse is free to tack on more explanation - we do this routinely now). As far as what sort of response is most effective for "users," I think we have to agree that once again we don't have sufficient evidence to draw sweeping conclusions. Few questioners post follow-up replies telling how they did with the answers. We don't always know if they are following links or understanding what we tell them. Was the shortcut link good enough? If they don't tell us, we probably never know. Every questioner is different, and we have no idea who we are writing to. In any case, if someone creates an article the wrong way, it often gets deleted. At least we gave them a chance to get it right first, and maybe they won't be as angry when they think back and remember that we did try to warn them. I think that's all we have to worry about here. We're not going to enlighten everybody 100% on the first go. Wikipedia has multiple lines of defense to deal with whatever slips through the cracks. --Teratornis 19:08, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I actually sometimes check to see the actions users take after getting help desk responses. It sometimes gratifying and other times amusing in a pathetic way. So I get you now. You're not calling for compacting this particular template but saying that we can have a compact version. That's fine to an extent, but on this particular issue, I think if it says little more than "See Help:Starting a new page" that would not be good. First, I don't think a template is necessary, that has little utility as it can just be typed. But especially in this area (article creation) we should do our best to inform people of at least the basics of COI, verifiability, sourcing, notability requirements and so on. The processes that have to come into play when articles that shouldn't be created, are, are a waste of a lot of people's time. CSD deletion takes more time than people think if it's done with due diligence (which I strive for); there's usually a middle man new pages patroller; and if the article ends up at afd that's more resource intensive. While there's no guarantee that a person will refrain from posting an inappropriate article if they are provided those links, some number won't, whereas, not posting is cannot lead to abstention because the information isn't provided. You say "maybe they won't be as angry when they think back and remember that we did try to warn them"—nail on head.--Fuhghettaboutit 04:56, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Posting an article about myself

ow do i post something regarding myself, i am a composer, and regarding my musicals.my name is linda samet—Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.27.195 (talk • contribs)

Please don't create an article about yourself. If you are notable as we define that terms here, i.e. you have been the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources, some third party will come along and write the article. Please see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. In short, we very strongly encourage you to avoid editing Wikipedia in areas where there is a conflict of interest that would make your edits non-neutral (biased).--Fuhghettaboutit 14:58, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Of course if you register an account on Wikipedia, you will automatically have a User page which you can use to put a little information about yourself, but remember the User page is not designed to replace your own blog or website (see WP:NOT for what Wikipedia is not for). Most user pages refer to the person in relation to their activities at Wikipedia. -=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 18:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Request for article

Please can you do some research on PAL and post on wiki Phenylanine Ammino lyase, < New treatemnt in Phenylketonuria> You have a good reference to PKU and the Biochemistry, just no reference to new treatments that are hopefully one day going to be availible soon.

Many Thanks—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbeaumo233 (talk • contribs)

I'm not 100% sure if you are asking for this material to be added to the existing article on Phenylketonuria or a new article. If the former, this is the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, so you can just go ahead and add material yourself, but please cite to reliable sources if you add material. For the latter, you can create the article yourself. See Help:Starting a page, Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article]. If you don't feel like writing it yourself, you can ask for someone else to create it at Wikipedia:Requested articles.--Fuhghettaboutit 15:15, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Answer: The most recent published update on phenylammonia lyase enzyme therapy for phenylketonuria was published by Christineh N. Sarkissiana (Montreal) and Alejandra Gámezb (Scripps La Jolla) in December 2005. At that point they were facing the usual challenge of getting a working enzyme into a body without an immune reaction. They were having limited success with a mouse PKU model. It sounds like this is still a distance from human trials, but I may be unduly pessimistic. Does this answer your question? alteripse 15:38, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

infobox datespan

I found this on a page about Charles Parnell. Where can I found information on how to create another infobox datespan?

It appears to be at: {{Infobox datespan}}. Also see: Help:Infobox. --Teratornis 19:18, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

The template page doesn't seem to have any help text to guide you. Generally the easiest way to put another instance of the same infobox in another article would be to copy the wikitext that generates the infobox from the Charles Parnell article into the other article, and edit the input values to the template to be correct for the other article. If you need help with this, tell us the name of the other article you want to add the infobox to, and someone can start the process for you. Also see Help:Template. --Teratornis 19:22, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

i need help

i need to find out how to get information about the rich and the poor parts of rio de janeiro

I looked at the article on Rio de Janerio and found this section. Does that help out? --JDitto 19:52, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Daltonganj

Hello. I was looking through some of the recent changes when I found this weird looking section in the article Daltonganj. I find it weird because it's just a list with little explanation. However, I'm not familiar with much Indian geography so I'm requesting somebody else fix this up. Thanks. --JDitto 19:47, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Wow. I marked the article for a complete rewrite - that needs a heck of a lot of work. Thanks. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 21:18, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Wow is right. I guess the reason that article doesn't get deleted straightaway is because the topic is geographical. It looks like WikiProject India has the expertise to fix Daltonganj because there are a number of featured articles about India. I'll leave a request on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject India for someone with knowledge of the area to have a go at it. --Teratornis 02:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Template Help

On my userpage I have modified a welcome template to provide myself with a quick reference for various things (and at some point I will modify to suit my needs better). What I want to do is remove the ugly grey bar in the centre, but after many hours playing with it I can't work out how to do it. If an editor would be so kind to do this for me then I can check the diff and work out how the hell they did it. Ta muchly Xarr☎ 20:17, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Done. As is often the case, the fix was probably too simple; that pencil you've been looking for the last hour? it's behind your ear:-)--Fuhghettaboutit 21:06, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

off-site icon?

How does the off-site icon (box with broad arrow pointing NE) get into the HTML at the end of the anchor text for the anchor link?

Is it copyrighted or otherwise intellectual property?

May I use it on my own web pages?

Regards, -- Chris Johansen —Xojo (talk) 20:56, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

There seems to be version here (svg file) licensed under the GDFL. ssepp^(talk)

Another version is here (png file). ssepp^(talk) 21:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

See also m:Help:Link#External links (it's possible to avoid the arrow). An external link normally produces html with CSS class "external" which has the arrow. For example, http://google.com produces this html (seen with view source in my browser):

<a href="http://google.com" class="external free" title="http://google.com" rel="nofollow">http://google.com</a>

Note that Wikipedia uses nofollow (unrelated to the arrow) for external links. PrimeHunter 22:09, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, S_Sepp and PrimeHunter. I thought the mechanics involved CSS, but I could not put my finger on it precisely. My questions are answered. Again, thanks. —Xojo (talk) 22:18, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

In main.css, this code appends Image:External.png.

#bodyContent a.external, #bodyContent a[href^="gopher://"] {


background:transparent url(external.png) no-repeat scroll right center;

padding-right:13px;

}

Prodego ^talk 05:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

no:Title_of_Article

Someone put the link [[no:Title_of_Article]] in an article I created. What is this link supposed to do? -- Hot Dog Wolf -- What's your beef? 20:57, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

That will place a "In other languages" link on the left side of the page to whatever language occupies "no."wikipedia.org (in this case, I believe norwegian) --L^augh! 21:01, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

See more at Help:Interlanguage links. If the person literally wrote "Title_of_Article" then it's a mistake but if it was the title of the corresponding article in Norwegian then it's right. PrimeHunter 21:05, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Style question: references within footnotes

In the current revision of our Area 51 article, I have a footnote (the first one) that explains something, as something of a tangential aside (it doesn't belong in the article text, particularly not the opening paragraph). To support the claims made in that aside I have three references (they really should be {{cite-web}}s). But how do we handle such references when the refering text is already inside REF tags? Wikipedia:Footnotes doesn't help, so I've inlined them for now - but that doesn't look nice and isn't especially easy to read. Is there a better way? -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 23:43, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I think the way you did it is the best way. Once someone takes the time to read the footnote, they won't mind seeing inline references there. If you ever send the article to Wikipedia:Peer review, they may have another idea, but on a "help desk" level, I'm just happy that you have the references at all, since I see so many articles lacking references. Shalom ^Hello 23:47, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Word

Hello, can you tell me the term or word used for words that are spelled the same; forward or backward: Bob, Eve, civic, etc.? It starts with "p" and has "drone" or "drome" at the end, I think. Thank you for your time. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.220.75.80 (talk)

See palindrome. My personal preference is palindromic primes which is one of the prime number forms I hunt. PrimeHunter 00:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

July 9

Suppressing categorisation by a template

I would like to suppress categorisation on a template so that it only categorises pages in a certain namespace. Take, for instance, User:UBX/hinduism. The template currently categorises any page it is transcluded on into Category:Wikipedians interested in Hinduism via the following line of code:

<includeonly>[[Category:Wikipedians interested in Hinduism|{{PAGENAME}}]]</includeonly>

I want to change this so that the template will categorise only those pages which are in the user namespace. Would replacing the code above with the code below (adapted from Template:Taxobox) be appropriate for that purpose?

<includeonly>{{#ifeq:{{{NAMESPACEE}}}|{{ns:2}}|[[Category:Wikipedians interested in Hinduism|{{PAGENAME}}]]}}</includeonly>

Note: {{ns:2}} corresponds to the User namespace per Help:Namespace.

If not, what needs to be changed? I've used here an example of a userbox, but I can think of other (more encyclopedic) uses of being able to suppress categorisation. I would appreciate assistance from someone more familiar with template coding than I. Thanks, Black Falcon ^(Talk) 00:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

You're really close, just a few minor things need to be changed. This should work:

{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{ns:2}}|<includeonly>[[Category:Wikipedians interested in Hinduism|{{BASEPAGENAME}}]]</includeonly>|}}

You only need two sets of brackets around "NAMESPACE", not three - that's liable to screw it up. I also moved the include only tags inside, as that should allow you to test things out easier. Put a word like "test" just out side the tags and make sure it displays after you save the page. I changed mine to BASEPAGENAME as well, which should provide for better sorting in the category. Either version should work fine (once you take out the extra brackets in yours), just test them out first, as always. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 01:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

It worked! Many thanks, Black Falcon ^(Talk) 02:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Count of pages by namespace

Does there exist a current (and preferably regularly updated) count of pages by namespace? {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} gives the current number of non-redirect mainspace pages and Special:Statistics provides the total number of pages (currently over 9 million), but nothing else. This page provides the desired data, but it has not been updated since October 2006. Is this information available anywhere? Thanks, Black Falcon ^(Talk) 01:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

You can generate a list of all the pages in a name space by using Special:Allpages, but it doesn't provide a count that I can see. I'm not sure such a resource is available. You might be able to suggest that such a feature be added here. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 01:12, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Help:Magic words#Statistics says: {{PAGESINNAMESPACE}} disabled here. PrimeHunter 01:19, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks to you both. I'll ask around more at Wikipedia talk:Special:Statistics (though the page seems to be unused) or maybe even at the village pump (technical). Thanks again, Black Falcon ^(Talk) 02:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Depending on how hard you want to work, you could get a database dump (see WP:DUMP) and write MySQL queries to count pages in the various namespaces. See: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Que for more about database queries. You might find something easier to use in Wikipedia:Researching Wikipedia and Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikidemia to find out what other tools may be available. (I found those last two links in User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia; do a Ctrl-f search in your Web browser to jump to the subheading "Academic studies:".) --Teratornis 02:52, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Malware?

Copied from WP:NCH:

Would it be possible to start a WikiProject on malware? I've noticed that MANY (actually, this is a misnomer because there are not many articles on this topic in the first place!) articles on malware are in a state of disrepair (such as Vundo trojan, which I want to move to Vundo, and Avira which is a notable antivirus company). If anyone could help me with this, and/or if anyone is interested, don't hesitate to contact me. Zeratul ^{En Taro Adun!}_{So be it.} 01:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post such a query, since I'm not experienced with WP:VP.

Are you aware of Wikipedia:WikiProject Malware? It appears inactive but trying to revive it may be the best. PrimeHunter 01:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Secure login

I can't seem to find the URL for a secure WP login. Could someone tell me the link? Thanks! 71.205.190.64 01:43, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Is there something wrong with the normal login in the upper right corner? Your edits are public and you are not asked for personal information. Help:Logging in#Enable cookies has a link to https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page. I have never used it and it appears to only be for avoiding the mentioned problem with logging out automatically. PrimeHunter 02:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I think there is also the issue of users who are in countries that block Wikipedia. See: WP:TOR. Disclaimer: I don't know anything about this other than what I see on that page. --Teratornis 02:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

The secure login, which is mostly useful when on an insecure wireless network (to help prevent your password being stolen) and on certain satellite networks (to prevent problems with being logged out automatically), is https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin; I have it templated at User:ais523/SecureURL to make it easier to remember. Using it will cause Wikipedia browsing and editing to be slower, though, and it couldn't cope with the strain of lots of people using it, so only use it when necessary. --ais523 10:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia on desk top

Is it possible to put Wikipedia on my desk top for easy access. Peter McNicholl —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.237.172.56 (talk)

Right-click on your desktop, select "New -> Shortcut" and type "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page" in the box that appears. Flip through the rest of the options however you'd like, and hit OK or Finish or whatever it is when you're done. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 04:13, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Legal threat

There is a threat of legal action on my talk page under Acen Ravzi. I'm an admin, but I can't remeber or find the policy. thanks, Jimfbleak 05:16, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

It's WP:NLT. I'll leave a msg on the editor's talk page (more currency coming from a third party).--Chaser - T 05:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Why was my article removed?

On July 5th 2007 I uploaded an article about The Citizens Foundation ( TCF ). First there were pictures' license tagging issues and the speedy deletion warning was given. But on the July 6th the notice was removed and no warning about removing the article was given.

Today, on July 9th 2007 when I searched the article I found out that the article does not exist.

Please kindly explain the reason for this deletion so that I can correct my mistake and upload the article again.--Ayesha munir 06:08, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

On 13:16, 6 July 2007 administrator Evilclown93 deleted "The Citizens Foundation", and provided the explaination "(Copyvio (G12))". This suggests the material was copied from some other source illegally. Contact Evilclown93 for more information. Prodego ^talk 06:14, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The Citizens Foundation was speedy deleted by User:Evilclown93 under criterion G12, "copyvio", meaning that the text on the page had been taken from a copyrighted source, presumably the foundation's web page. See also Wikipedia:Copyright#Using copyrighted work from others. From the looks of it, you should be able to recreate the article, as long as you don't copy the text from somewhere else. I would also suggest that you be careful not to make it look too much like advertising (i.e. write it from a neutral point of view), and make sure you include an assertion of notability by including references to reliable third-party sources (that last sentence includes a lot of links that you may want to consider reading first). That said, it looks like there are several news articles that include non-trivial reference of TCF, so citing them should be fine. Confusing Manifestation 06:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

The copyvio is back again. I'll be re-tagging it. Please provide proof of the right to use this text. Corvus cornix 20:36, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Printed a wikipedia page

I want to print this page Metamath but the content box is cut between two pages. Is there a way to compel Wikipedia to print the content box on a page or on the following one but not on the two ? --Frédéric Liné 10:10, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, this is a matter with your web browser, not Wikipedia. If you want to print a Wikipedia article, you could save it on your own computer, and modify it from there -_L^augh! 10:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

But there is a button named "printable version" and the result must be controlled by wikipedia, mustn't it ? --Frédéric Liné 10:10, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

It is not a problem with his browser, it is a problem with his printer. Have you set the printer to print in Portrait form and not landscape? If you have, then you may wish to copy and paste some of the text in the article into a word processor (e.g. Microsoft Word, or Notepad) and print it off manually from there. Also, "content box", do you mean the Table of Contents or the small infoboxes on the side of the page? Sebi _[talk] 10:16, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I mean the Table of Contents. Could you go to the Metamath page and push on the "printable version" button to see if the Table of Contents is printed on two separated pages for you as well ? --Frédéric Liné 10:50, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

OK I understand: in the printable version Wikipedia doesn't indicate page frontier. And then my printer choose to break the pages where it wants. Well I think this behavior should be modified. Thank you --Frédéric Liné 10:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Creating Language Link

I want to translate some articles in my native language, that is Georgian, but I don't know how. Can you explain?

Go to ka.wikipedia --L^augh! 10:06, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

That is only if the articles you want to view have an article on the Georgian Wikipedia. However, you might wish to manually copy and paste bits of the article, pasting them into a language translator. Many language translators include AltaVista's babel translator and Google's language translator. As far as I know, these only cover common languages, such as Spanish or German, etc. If you cannot find a translator that translates from English to Georgian, well I'm sorry, there is not much more Wikipedia can do about it. Sebi _[talk] 10:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Messages from Administrators regarding Paul mcewan

Dear Wikipedia,

I hope this finds you well.

My name is Paul McEwan, when I created my page I wrote it in mistakenly as Paul mcewan and asked if an administrator could help me captitalise it. I checked the internet late last night and found that an administrator had got in touch and had given me instructions on how to change it. Unfortunately I was too tired and logged on today to sort things out. However when I cliecked the link on google today my information was no longer on the page. I wondered if there had been a time control on this as I saw yesterday that the administrator had sent me the data on July 2nd. Would it be possible for you to tell me where I could locate the administrators advice.

Best wishes,

Paul McEwan

Paul mcewan 11:14, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Paul, it would make it quite a deal easier if you could provide us with the Administrator's username. If you are referring to changing your username from Paul mcewan to Paul McEwan or Paul Mcewan, please see WP:CHU. However, when I preformed an edit count on your username, you had only 1 edit (this one) with your account. It would probably be easier and faster to simply create a new account.

Thanks,

Kevinwong913 ^{Speak out loud!} 13:52, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

A problem might be that you can't create the new username 'Paul McEwan' because it's too much like 'Paul mcewan', and the system won't let you (unless you're an administrator). ssepp^(talk) 16:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

emergency calls

59.180.10.29 12:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC)how can a mobile phone make an emergency call when there is no sim card in it . what kind of frequency does it uses ?

Um, I don't think this is wiki-related. Anyways, I don't know. ~Crowstar~ 13:20, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Kevinwong913 ^{Speak out loud!} 14:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Stating the obvious

In the humidifier article there is a section entitled "drinking the water", followed by detailed arguments why one should not drink the water. Is there a Wikipedia policy about not stating the patently obvious? Who in their right mind is going to drink the water? Or should we add "eating and drinking" sections to hundreds of other articles in case someone thinks consumption of waste products is a good idea and gets sick? (Apologies if this comes across as a rant. I'm just fishing for support to remove this sort of thing. And there is a wider question involved.)--Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:35, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I really don't see the point of the section. ~Crowstar~ 13:19, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Umm, I can't find the section. ssepp^(talk) 16:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Oops, I meant to type dehumidifier.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 18:12, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

It's water. Many folks will consider it "clean" simply because it came out of a machine and it looks clear. Aside from that, this is best discussed on the article's Talk page. -- Kesh

This has been there since April 2006 [2] and edited by many, so a discussion sounds like a good idea. It's currently unsourced. A Google search on drink dehumidifier shows people have actually been drinking the water and asking about it, and many have written it shouldn't be done. Maybe acceptable sources can be found. PrimeHunter 22:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

In a sense, everything in Wikipedia is obvious, because we have the No original research policy. We only restate what is already published elsewhere. There should be nothing on Wikipedia which is truly unobvious to everyone (other than the author). --19:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Teratornis (talk • contribs)

RFAR

I see there's an RFAR here, and although I'm not an involved party I have watched the page and, sadly, have become embroiled in the dispute in various ways over a number of months. My question is, am I entitled to make a statement at the RFAR? If yes, is it worth doing so? I see no evidence that the parties have engaged in any other form of dispute resolution. Is the RFAR likely to be closed anyway? AndyJones 12:52, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

note for helpers: this is about a request for arbitration, not adminship. (RFA normally refers to requests for adminship) ssepp^(talk) 16:14, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Have amended my question with the revised abbreviation. AndyJones 16:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Uninvolved users are permitted to make statements as well, in the same way as the other users did. --ST47Talk 16:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar removal

I awarded a Barnstar to someone, but apparently, this has gone to his head and he has started personally attacking other editors. I am seriously doubting myself for awarding this, so can I remove the barnstar I awarded. ~Crowstar~ 13:07, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I have never heard of anyone doing this before. The whole barnstar system is informal, so there aren't many strict rules on what you can and cannot do. However, if the user put the barnstar on their userpage, then you're not really supposed to remove it from there, because you are supposed to leave other people's userpages alone (unless they don't mind you editing it). Perhaps you should just ask this user if they can remove the barnstar? ssepp^(talk) 16:07, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Recording announcements at JFK Terminal 4

There is a recording announcements at JFK terminal 4 announcing flight arrivals/departures. Who is that person that made those announcements?

I have no idea why you want to know that, but in any case the help desk is only for questions on using wikipedia. The WP:Reference Desk is for general questions, however, they might not be able to help you with your question either. Perhaps you would have most chance asking JFK directly. ssepp^(talk) 16:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Regarding "cutting and pasting" (moved from Humanities desk)

I've noticed many of the Guggenheim Fellowships years of names were directly cut and pasted from the external link GUGGENHEIM FELLOWSHIP website. Is this alright to do without any legal glitches? If it is legitimate then one can easily cut and paste for the years that are not yet pasted quite readily. Pjt48 13:56, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

It depends on how they're doing it. Facts can't be copyrighted, but the presentation can. The names are going to be the same, but the words around the facts, the table, even the font can be copyrighted. Geogre 14:16, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

AFAIK, most countries require some thereshold of originality or creativity for something to be copyrighted. This threshold is usually ill define in law and in case law. What is clear in a number of countries is the amount of effort required is often irrelevant (and indeed may count against the copyright since if something aims to be comprehensive, it's likely there is no creativity involved). What all this means is a simple compliation of data is generally not copyrightable. Therefore a table of names by year is probably not copyrightable. However more complicated tables e.g. with lots of additional information may be copyrightable since there may be some originality in the data you choose to include and exclude. For some legal overviews I came across, see [3] & [4] Nil Einne 23:50, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Having taken a look at what you're referring to, there is more then I expected altho it's still perhaps possible that it's not copyrightable especially since the threshold in the US where the Gunggenheim Fellowship AND wikimedia are based is AFAIK been shown to be fairly high. However I would have a bigger concern about whether there is any reason to have these very long lists. It seems to me they may be a bit unnecessary but I'll get some feedback on WP:NOTE to get some feedback Nil Einne 23:50, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

My article is not on line yet

Hello ,

I created a text on the Aztec theatre (Aztec On The River) last week and I don´t see it in wikipedia yet. Did I do something wrong or is it a normal timing for a text to be published ?

Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Charou

Thank you very much for your help Kind regards

Charou 16:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)charou

You'll need to post it somewhere, a page with a descriptive title, such as Aztec on the River. --ST47Talk 16:25, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Read WP:CREATE for more help. --ST47Talk 16:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Questions about Lifestyle Fashion Terminal page

I have started the Lifestyle Fashion Terminal page but I am confused about the categories it has been put into. Can you take a look at the page and help me understand better what I have done wrong and how to fix it?

thank you

LFT - Lifestyle Fashion Terminal 16:36, 9 July 2007 (UTC)Suzi

The page doesn't appear to be in any categories at all. Were you asking which categories it could go into? Also, are you aware you created the page in the user space not the mainspace? --Android Mouse 17:11, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the posters link LFT - Lifestyle Fashion Terminal is the user name in the signature (which gives a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest suspicion). The article is correctly placed in article space at Lifestyle Fashion Terminal. The question is about the tags {{stub}}, {{Notability}} and {{Unreferenced}} which automatically place the article in certain categories. An editor tagged the article because it is a stub (allowed), does not assert notability of the subject (disallowed) and is unsourced (disallowed). You can also follow the links in the boxes at the article. PrimeHunter 17:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Links not working

In the following articles, there are links which I **think** are correctly constructed to point to existing articles but are appearing as red links. What's wrong? Frederic Dorr Steele - link to Collier's Weekly; Giant's Causeway Tramway - 2 links + disambiguation link to The Giant's Causeway and Bushmills Railway; The Giant's Causeway and Bushmills Railway - disambiguation link to Giant's Causeway Tramway. Devoxo 16:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

The way you formatted the question all as plain text with no links makes it hard to answer. Below I linked to the first two articles you mentioned, and to a Google Search on the page names you say are red links. Google is not case-sensitive, and can correct some misspellings. It often works better than Wikipedia's built-in search.

• Frederic Dorr Steele:
  • Collier's Weekly
    • The above search finds: Collier's Weekly
• Giant's Causeway Tramway:
  • The Giant's Causeway
    • The above search finds: Giant's Causeway
  • Bushmills Railway
    • The above search finds: The Giant's Causeway and Bushmills Railway and Bushmills but no Bushmills Railway.

The general procedure for fixing red links is to search Wikipedia for the correct names of existing articles which the links (probably) refer to. If no suitable articles exist, then someone should create them if their subjects are suitable for Wikipedia. --Teratornis 16:57, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

The links use a ` while the articles use a '. ssepp^(talk) 16:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I fixed the three four links with this problem that I could find. ssepp^(talk) 17:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Just for the (tortured) record, some of those links are disambiguation links in Giant's Causeway Tramway and The Giant's Causeway and Bushmills Railway. Thanks for fixing them. Note to Devoxo: page titles in links must be exact - the slightest difference even in a punctuation character (such as using the wrong type of quote) can break them. However, it is possible to allow for some misspellings by using redirects. --Teratornis 17:11, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

about indian government efforts taken to solve the issues related to environment degradation

about indian government efforts taken to solve the issues related to environment degradation

Hmm... did you have a question? You may wish to try the reference desk. Charlie-talk to me-what I've done 19:25, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Archiver not working?

Can anyone see the problem with the auto-archiving of my talk page at User_talk:Maury_Markowitz? Its difficult to read, but nothing seems obviously wrong and I'm not getting any archiving happening. Maury 17:50, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I've corrected one thing that could be the problem: you were telling it to archive to bzuk's userspace. --ST47Talk 18:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Fingers crossed... Maury 20:34, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Formatting in the 'wheat' article

When I opened the article, in the 'Genetics' section. more or less here:

" * Most tetraploid wheats (e.g. emmer and durum wheat) are derived from wild emmer, T. dicoccoides. Wild emmer is the result of a hybridization between two diploid wild grasses, T. urartu and a wild goatgrass such as Aegilops searsii or Ae. speltoides. The hybridization that formed wild emmer occurred in the wild, long before domestication.[12] "

Overwriting the last line in that paragraph, not really on the line was

   [edit] [edit]

Two instances. By clicking on them one went to the 'Genetics' section for editing, the other to the 'History' section, the link to edit being as I have noted not just above the relevant section.

I have no idea what does that and obviously could not fix it if in fact it need fixing and is not just a fault of my browser.

--Dumarest 18:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

It's due to a large image or infobox in the way, don't worry about it. --ST47Talk 18:33, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I can understand that, and the Infobox is HUGE [long], but the effect is annoying, misleading, and does not do very much good to the reputation of Wikipedia for professionalism - I know it is edited by everyone, but the formatting and so on should be professional. --Dumarest 18:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I remember reading about that problem in one of the help pages somewhere and I'm looking for it now. --Teratornis 19:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

And that would be Wikipedia:How to fix bunched-up edit links (WP:BUNCH). --Teratornis 19:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Maybe not the right way, but I fixed it. --Dumarest 19:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

references

I have tried to edit the sources and refernces for the Tommy Mottola page so that the top discretion comes off the site. I added sources to the site a month ago and it still asks for reliable sources. What needs to be done to fix this and make the sources valid?

Wik?

What is the meaning/significance of Wik/ in the title of articles such as Wik/staines townwfc and Wik/sean caldwell? Should somebody rename them more appropriately, or are they someone's sandbox?--Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:18, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, please make sure that all questions go in a new section. They should both be moved, to Staines Town WFC (with WFC spelled out per WP:MOS), and Sean Caldwell, although they both may not be notable enough to pass the criteria for speedy deletion. SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 19:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Company page

Please advise as to how to add a company name and description to the health care company page. The name of the company is HealthString and I would like it to be added under the H category.

Thanks.

Lizwillock 19:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)l. willock

I think these questions are being asked by multiple people - please start a new section when asking a new question by clicking the "+" link at the very top of this page.Hersfold ^(talk/work) 19:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

(That is precisely what I did, but I forgot to add a heading. Sorry. Sorted now.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:21, 10 July 2007 (UTC))

Question 1: You will want to see our verifiability policy for more information there. In general, sources which are not published by a reputable, third-party source are not considered reliable.

Question 2: I haven't the faintest. I'll go move the pages in just a moment, thanks for bringing that up.

Question 3: I think you're asking how to categorize a page. To add an article to a category, link to that category as you would a normal article, like so: [[Category:The weather in London]]. The article will be alphabetically sorted according to the article's name - however if you would like it to be sorted in a different manner, you can add the sort index in the link, like so: [[Category:The weather in London|A sort index]].

Everyone happy now? Hersfold ^(talk/work) 19:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Reply to Lizwillock: You got fast detailed answers when you asked the same in Wikipedia:Help desk#help on health care companies page. When editors spend their volunteer time helping you quickly and accurately, it would be nice if you read their answers instead of repeating the question a week later (as your following edit: Special:Contributions/Lizwillock). It could also have saved the time you spent repeating your inappropriate edits (as IP address last time) to Category:Health care companies. I have reverted them again. I will also post to your talk page this time in case you ignore answers here again. PrimeHunter 22:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Song Lyrics

Why or should Wikipedia have Lyrics for songs? Wikipedia has many entries on songs, and I was curious why their are no lyrics for the songs.

Lyrics are usually copyrighted, and so cannot be included in Wikipedia. Please see WP:COPY. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 19:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Lyrics and poetry. PrimeHunter 21:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Custom signature

Is there a page for help on creating custom (colored) signatures? Thanks --ZimZalaBim (talk) 20:25, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 20:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Resolved

massive parrots

Hi, I need help. I wanted to add some parrots to my page but the picture is too big. Can somebody please make it smaller, like in the parrot article? The width of two of the infoboxes is good if that's possible. Thanks. Rekk 20:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

You forgot the 'px' - I've set it to 200 px, you may want to change that to 400 or 500. --ST47Talk 21:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

... must... resist... Monty Python joke! -- Kesh 22:13, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

He's gone and joined the choir invisible!--Fuhghettaboutit 22:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Odd user talk page

I have just come across this rather odd page at User talk:Raizza while I was looking for vandalism. It consists of nothing but babble, phone numbers, and e-mail addresses. Spam? I don't know what to make of it or what should be done, as it's a talk page. Sarrandúin ^{[ Talk + Contribs ]} 21:16, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Looks like a log from a Dell call centre...Very strange. I think at least the email adresses need to be removed to protect them from spam, probably the whole thing should be removed. ssepp^(talk) 21:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

This is the version we are talking about: [5]. I have since removed the call log, and asked the user what he is doing... ssepp^(talk) 21:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

If people feel I was wrong in removing it, feel free to revert... It just seemed for the best. ssepp^(talk) 21:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

making a table

I don't know how, and it totally confuses me, so can someone make the worlds list on the Cheer Athletics page into a table.

Maybe have the headings across the top go: -image of medal- -year- -team- -score- -place- division-

thanks Maddie was here 21:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I gave it a shot. ssepp^(talk) 21:58, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

By looking at the code you should be able to see what the pattern is, so you can customize it yourself. ssepp^(talk) 22:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I need two images deleting

Image:Sachsenhausen Concentration Camp Front Gate.jpg and Image:Reichstag House Of Parliament.jpg

This would be GREATLY appreciated ASAP!Fethroesforia 21:56, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but the images do not qualify for speedy deletion because "copyright holder wants them deleted", because directly under them is a tag that reads "I, the author of this work, hereby publish it under the following licenses", and you have licensed them under the GFDL license and CreativeCommons licenses. This means that you are no longer the copyright holder of the work, and the images will not be deleted for that reason. Kind regards, Sebi _[talk] 22:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Licensing images under a free license is normally not revocable, so it probably won't be deleted unless you can give some convincing reason on why they should be deleted anyway.. ssepp^(talk) 22:06, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

But im not the copyright holder. I thought i was but i got mixed up. The REAL copyright holder doesnt want them on here. Its a mistake! Fethroesforia 22:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Ah. In which case, since the licensing information is wrong, I think you might be able to get away with tagging them as {{db|CSD I4 - I am not the copyright holder and added these license tags by mistake, so images do not have any valid licensing information.}} Confusing Manifestation 00:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Switzerland

I have noticed that there is none or very litle information on topics related to Switzerland. For example if you look at the page for Chinese Commerce Minister Bo Xilai you will see a lot of information about him compared to Switzerland's Economics Minister Doris Leuthard, or even information about the Irish Defence Forces which is split up into 5 sections compared to the Military of Switzerland all dumped on one page. Another example is the BT Group compared to Swisscom. Has a WikiProject Switzerland been suggested and what improvements have been made to an area which defenitly needs improving? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.71.12.130 (talk • contribs)

See Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Geographical/Europe#Switzerland and Wikipedia:WikiProject Switzerland. Also see WP:PROJGUIDE for general information about how to run a WikiProject. --Teratornis 22:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Be aware that a limited comparison of articles may be misleading. Depending on which articles one compares, China might well seem to be underserved here compared to Switzerland. Since only a tiny fraction (well under 1%) of the 6,937,448 articles on the English Wikipedia are rated as good articles or featured articles, the partisans of every nation have reason to feel slighted. However, you don't have to accept Wikipedia's deficiencies; you can help fix them! For example, if you happen to be multilingual as most Swiss evidently are, you might examine the other language Wikipedias to see if any have articles relating to Switzerland which are missing or less complete here, and you could help translate them to English. For example, the German Wikipedia or French Wikipedia may be farther along with articles about Switzerland than we are. --Teratornis 03:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

The de:Schweiz article appears to be about twice as long as the Switzerland article here. A similar ratio holds for de:Doris Leuthard and Doris Leuthard. Perhaps there are more Swiss contributors working in German than English, which would stand to reason as German is an official Swiss language and English is not. This is not to dismiss the need to improve the English language articles, but to point out where you may find content to translate. --Teratornis 04:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

No notes!!

See the Lea Wait article. There are notes, but wnen I clikd on them nothing happens!! What isgoing on?? --Dumarest 22:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

There's no need to use the helpme template here. The article needed a section with <references/> written in it to make the notes appear. ssepp^(talk) 22:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

3RR question

I know the 3RR states that you may not make any more than 3 reverts within 24 hours, but does apply or not apply to self-reverts and reverting vandalism? Tiger white 23:53, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Per WP:3RR, reverting obvious vandalism is exempt from this rule. Also, the policy discusses reverting the edits of other editors, which I take to mean that self-reverts don't count. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 23:58, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

July 10

Pam Parsons

Pam Parsons. I have come here on several ocassions and have never found an article on the University of South Carolina basketball coach from the 1980's. How can that be possible? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 97.82.195.18 (talk)

Either she doesn't satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (people), or nobody has bothered to create an article about her. A university coach from before Wikipedia was created and with only 600 Google hits including others with the same name? I would have been surprised if her biography had been among our 6,937,448 articles. PrimeHunter 01:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

The closest approach seems to be South Carolina Gamecocks which lists the current coach as Susan Walvius but does not have a link even on her name. Wikipedia's coverage is still sparse for marginally notable topics. As to how this can be possible, walk down the street and ask everyone you see if they are contributing to Wikipedia yet. You may have to ask a lot of people to find the first one who says yes. Even though Wikipedia has 48,522,363 registered users, and many more unregistered users, only a small fraction are adding serious amounts of encyclopedic content. So even though we have a lot of articles, Wikipedia may have to double in size a few more times before we exhaust the number of topics we could write about. If you want to start an article on Pam Parsons, first find some reliable sources about her that you can cite, then see Help:Starting a new page. But beware that many new articles by new users end up getting deleted for failing to comply with Wikipedia policies. --Teratornis 04:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

HELP ME!

AYUDA, NECESTO A PUCSAR A ONA SITE QUE SE YAMA WIKIPEDIA???GRACIAS, HERMANO!TE QUERO MUCHO TU AYUDA!JOSé HERNANDEZ Dé BRAZIL —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.96.230.73 (talk)

This is the English Wikipedia. It appears from your other edits that you know some English (and like to vandalize Wikipedia), but are better at Spanish. Maybe you would prefer to use (or vandalize) the Spanish Wikipedia. PrimeHunter 00:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

lol!--Banana 04:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Being from Brazil. perhaps the person would find the Portuguese Wikipedia [6] interesting, although per Babelfish, the post does not translate well from Portuguese to English. nor does it translate smoothly from Spanish. My translation based on a vague knowledge of "Spanish As She Is Spoke" would be (allowing for some typos) "Help. I need (pucsar?) to (ona?) (site?) called Wikipedia. Thanks, brother! I like to help you(familiar) very much. (or I like your help very much). Jose Hernandez from Brazil. Edison 05:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

The IP claims to want Spanish in: [7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14]. However, it may just be an excuse for not following things written in English. The IP looks like a vandal and has been blocked.[15] PrimeHunter 05:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Shelley Mack

who is Shelley Mack? The actress on who plays Penny on "Las Vegas"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.170.98.124 (talk)

We don't have an article about Shelley Mack. You can look for information at http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1659522/ and in a Google search. PrimeHunter 01:19, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

logging in

i am unable to create an account, because i can never type the correct letter coding for ensured privacy, although it looks fine to me every time. What am i doing wrong?

hmmm. . .I'm not sure what to tell you. Could you ask someone else to help you read it? --Banana 04:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Also, our article on CAPTCHA saids "People with other disabilities (such as color blindness or text recognition disabilities) might find CAPTCHAs harder to solve than the general population." Hope this helps. --Banana 04:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

You can use Wikipedia:Request an account. PrimeHunter 05:03, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

"Ref name" tool

When citing a reference and naming it with "ref name" at the top, then citing the reference again using <ref name="___"> at the end of the last sentence in a section, it makes the heading (and somtimes contents) of the next section disappear. Is there any way to prevent this, or am I doing something wrong? •97198 talk 05:41, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

You've got the syntax wrong -- it's <ref name="___"/> not <ref name="___">. --Haemo 05:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Ahhh... Thanks a bunch. •97198 talk 05:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

David Bowie article

I know this is not the place for this, but there is a reference needed on the david bowie article for hs parents origines and it can be checked from here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWH4O9cXjzg&mode=related&search= it´s a DB interview on some british talk show. It is reeeeally boring to read all the thinks you intend users to read just to say "hey, i know where you can confirm that!". So i put it in here, sorry.

Heres the ref, formatted: <ref>{{cite episode| title = Episode for 29 November 2003 | episodelink = http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0670006/| series = [[Parkinson (TV series)]]| airdate = 29 November 2003 }}</ref> --06:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I've added it to the article for you. Thanks. --Cherry blossom tree 07:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

RTFM is indeed boring for some, perhaps even for most of the 98% of the general population not in the Cognitive elite, but Wikipedia is a document-driven project, and the extraordinary efficiency resulting from communicating via collaboratively-edited documents is essential to keeping Wikipedia free. Consider, by writing something down, you only have to say it once, and thereafter any number of other people can read what you wrote without consuming more of your time. Instead of repeating yourself endlessly, you can go on to add value somewhere else. This is why literate peoples are able to vastly outcompete illiterate peoples. In a culture of illiterate people, the enormous inefficiency of having to rely exclusively on verbal communication bogs them down and prevents them from developing any sort of complex society - because every time someone needs information, they have to waste the time of someone else by obliging them to repeat it out loud. Illiterate cultures cannot easily coordinate their actions in large numbers, they cannot exploit division of labor very well, and their cultures can only produce simple artifacts. Although from time to time some of them did manage to organize themselves into fearsome barbarian hordes, the Industrial revolution led to modern weaponry which put a quick stop to that.

Even in a nominally literate culture, some individuals and groups of individuals are more literate than others. That is, different people within the culture rely on verbal vs. literate communication to varying degrees. Wikipedia is possibly one of the most literate subcultures which has yet existed - we do almost everything in writing, and a sizable percentage of the writing yields formal documents suitable for highly productive reference, rather than one-off disposable messages such as these Help desk questions and replies. Accordingly, Wikipedia is doing things that would have seemed unimaginable ten years ago: here we have the largest encyclopedia ever written, and it's almost all being done with volunteer labor. Wikipedia succeeds because anyone who is smart enough to read and follow instructions can get right to work. The incremental cost to train another volunteer is almost zero. About all we might have to do is point them to the manuals on the Help desk, and leave them clues in our edit summaries when we touch up their work. So rather than loathe those manuals, you should come to view them as the source of everything you like about Wikipedia. And get to know them well. --Teratornis 15:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Bias

Hello,

I was wondering how I can go about reporting a page for bias, so that it can be reviewed by people who edit wikipedia.

thank you!

If you add {{tl|NPOV}} to the top of an article then it produces this warning. {{NPOV}}

--Cherry blossom tree 07:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

But be sure that you indicate on the article's Talk page, what you find biased about the article, or else your NPOV tag will be removed. Corvus cornix 20:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Fidel Castro and the 1947 Pittsburgh Pirates.

I heard Fidel Castro was a possible prospect player for the 1947 Pittsburgh Pirates. I'm trying to find out whether or not this is true, and this usually is one of the first places I look for such information. I can't seem to find anything of the sort on Wikipedia anywhere could you help me?

This page is for questions about Wikipedia. The reference desk deals with knowledge questions such as yours - I suggest you ask there. --Cherry blossom tree 07:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

You can search Wikipedia with Google for: Fidel Castro baseball and find some interesting bits. --Teratornis 15:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

For example see this urban legends reference page. I've heard this legend before, and each time it involves a different MLB team. And see Havana Sugar Kings. --Teratornis 15:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I believe he had a tryout for the Washington Senators but was never invited back. Smartyshoe 22:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Time Computer

All information about our company has been erased? We have been deleted from the list of watchmakers too. Our information was there 60 day ago so someone has deleted it since then.

Company: Time Computer, Inc.

Regards, Dennis L. Klein President, CEO Time Computer, Inc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Oldpulsars (talk • contribs)

The argument for deletion is given at Time Computer. See also Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? and Wikipedia:Business FAQ. PrimeHunter 13:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Note that there was an entirely unrelated UK company called Time Computer (a well-known highstreet builder of desktop computers) which went bust a few years ago. While it sounds like Mr Klein's company doesn't make the WP:CORP cut, I think that defunct company does (see this summary). Note that Wikipedia does have an article about a related company Time UK; that article is sorely in need of NPOV and sources. -- Mr Ubami 13:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

CPDL Function

Could someone please tell me when CPDL might be up and running again? I have not been able to connect to the website for about a week now. What is the problem? Many thanks.

This help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. Wikipedia:Reference desk is for questions unrelated to Wikipedia, but in this case you might get better information at http://www.choralwiki.org/phpBB2/index.php. Choral Public Domain Library and http://www.choralwiki.org/ may be of interest. You may also be able to find automatically archived pages at http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cpdl.org/ and the Cached links at http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.cpdl.org%2F PrimeHunter 14:19, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Entry not posted on internet

Hi there,

I have recently created an entry on "Adam Solomon", a Kenyan musician.

However, this listing does not seem to be available on the 'net. It does not appear after "Adam Solomon" is entered in the search engine.

Can you help?

Thank you,

Nancy L. Barrett User goldengooseproductions

Hi! Search Engines (such as Google) update their indexes only once in a while, so it may be a while before it appears in any search engines. Don't worry, the article is there or people browsing or searching Wikipedia to see. Eventually, the search engines will get around to re-indexing Wikipedia, but that's their responsibility, not ours. :) -- Stwalkerster talk 15:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Photos

When writing about a city, how do I move photos or images (like a map) from one area to anothe?

How do I insert photos into information about a city?

Thank you.

Scottsdaleowosso 15:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Images and other uploaded files. --Teratornis 16:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

login

What should I do if I forgot my password?

If you put an e-mail address into the box on your Preferences page, you can click the 'E-mail new password' button. :) -- Stwalkerster talk 16:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Citation needed for original source?

I added an entry to Freeman Dyson's page about a year ago concerning a boy who was named after him in Kansas. I now see that it says "citation needed" by the entry. There is no citation, as I am the original source, being the boy's father. I can forward you emails exchanged between Mr. Dyson and my wife and myself collaborating what I added to the article, if you like. HiRez_L —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HiRez L (talk • contribs).

Our policies require verifiable published reliable sources for Wikipedia content, and we have especially strict rules regarding living people. Your post indicates no acceptable sources exist, so the information may soon be removed from Freeman Dyson. Unpublished emails are insufficient, and it's not good enough that you personally know something is true. Also note that many things that do have a reliable source are not considered notable enough to be mentioned in Wikipedia. And see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. PrimeHunter 16:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Whats the correct format for citing this book?

[16]

See WP:CITE#HOW. Shalom ^Hello 19:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment does not display on a talk page

I added a comment to a talk page, [17] and it shows up in the history of the talk page but does not display. A later comment by someone else does display. Here is a diff for their comment [18] and here is the page as it presently displays: [19]. At the bottom of the page it says it was last modified "16:06, 10 July 2007" which is the time of my nondisplayed post, and this ignores the time of the later post which is displayed. What gives? Thanks. Edison 16:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

It was an unclosed <ref> tag in a previous comment that was causing problems for the rest of the page. I've reconstructed the page, but the signatures didn't expand properly; you probably want to go back and re-sign your comment. --ais523 17:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

using material from our own website-Cuban American National Foundation page

I am the Government Relations and Communications Director for the Cuban American National Foundation. I recently tried to edit the page you have on us which is rife with errors and inflammatory statements by subsituting what is there for the information we have up on our site. The page was then reverted back and i was sent a message claiming that the information there was copied from the CANF website, which it was, because we ARE CANF! Can you please help me with this? Cubandemocracy 17:35, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I replied on User talk:Cubandemocracy. Shalom ^Hello 19:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

As I indicated on your User Talk page, Please read the section at Wikipedia:Copyright problems headed "Copyright owners who submitted their own work to Wikipedia". Corvus cornix 20:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi again,

Thanks for the info regarding removing a no-copyright-tag warning from my photo, Image:AdamSolomonArt.JOPG. However, I do not know how to remove the notice. Any suggestions? Note: Since this photo was perceived not to be very "encyclopedic", I shall endeavour to replace it with something apparently more suitable. However, there was no lettering in my original photo, even before the photoshopped art. Thanks Goldengooseproductions 15:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Copyright tags for photos

Hi there,

By the way, thanks those of you who answered my previous question.

Here's another, unfortunately: I have added a photo which I created myself onto the Adam Solomon entry. There is now a message asking for me to apply a copyright tag. However, right underneath that message is another message stating that this image is now in the public domain (as I had intended). Why I am getting two conflicting messages?

Thanks, Goldengooseproductions 17:41, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I assume you're speaking of Image:AdamSolomonArt.JPG. If you are the copyright owner, just remove the notice from the page leaving your tag. On a side note, this image with the border and added background is not very encyclopedic. The border also appears to have lettering from a possible copyright. LaraLove^T/_C 17:46, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

heavy dump truck driver

need a truck driver too drive an empty three axel truck from va. to ca. one way only.

Sorry, Wikipedia is not a truck driver. :) But good luck anyway. Shalom ^Hello 18:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Adding new content

Your instructions are very convoluated and hard to follow. Is there a quick and easy way to figure out how to a) post new information and b) write in a format that's acceptable to Wiki editors?

Also, I want to change my username but can't figure out how to do that. Please help

I will reply on User talk:Kaymalchow. Shalom ^Hello 18:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Dear Wikipedia admins

What you're about to witness now, is a REVOLUTION. If you're not fimiliar with PDEng, a course offered at the waterloo, Don't worry, Because over the next few days you're going to. Every article, and i mean EVERY ARTICLE on wikipedia is going to have a section about pdeng. You can't stop it. We've found ways, and we'll find more ways. Ofcourse you could stop it by helping us out. All we need is one page of your website. Just one page. An article that we would like to write about PDEng, without it being deleted. With the number of people and other resources we have to carry out our task, it will take you days to stop us, even if you try really hard. I suggest/request your cooperation. With Much Love, Rebels Against PDEng

I am not an admin, and have no privilidge to make a decision myself, but perhaps you could try creating the page about PDEng (which means you'll need to register) and see if it gets deleted. Also, blackmail never helps. Smartyshoe 19:14, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

PDEng has been deleted once. PrimeHunter 19:25, 10 July 2007 (UTC). Deleted 4 times now. PrimeHunter 19:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Who posted that again? ~Crowstar~ 21:26, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

There's millions of articles, and you're saying that you're going to vandalize every single one? That will only result in having your IP range being indefinitely blocked and all your vandalism/spam reverted by the thousands of dedicated editors such as myself. Useight 22:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Anyway, you have probably mistook Wikipedia for an advertisement service. In fact, it is an encyclopedia where people should find information about what they want to know, not about what you want them to know. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 12:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Text in boxes

Whenever I have tried to add to wikipedia it looks great in the text entry area. When I save and view the text it is wrapped in boxes made by dashes and half of the text is missing! Thanks for the help!!! John www[dot]pressjohn[dot]com 19:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Remove all spaces at the beginning of the lines and the text will display correctly.--Alf ^melmac 19:36, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Medal for the Liberation of Prague

Resolved

Medal for the Liberation of Prague Can someone help me format the notes, I'm having trouble. Thanks. --LtWinters 19:48, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Fixed in [20] PrimeHunter 22:56, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou primehunter. --LtWinters 01:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

how do I secure benefits from my deceased husband

I was married for 15 years and then divorced from my husband. He passed away April 2007. How do I apply for benefits?

call your lawyer. Kwsn^(Ni!) 20:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Category Search

Is there a way that I can search for existing categories?

You can search in categories by typing a search term in the normal box, click "Search" and not "Go", check "Category" in the box at the bottom and uncheck "Main", and then use the bottom search box. See also Special:Categories. PrimeHunter 23:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes. To elaborate:

Method 1: Type something into the search box and click "Search". Then, when the search page comes up, scroll to the bottom, uncheck the box marked "(Main)" and check the one marked "Category". Type some text in the big search box and click "Search"

Pro: Can search the text in a category.

Con: May not show new additions, depending on when the database was last updated.

Method 2: Go to Special:Prefixindex. Type in the beginning of a category name in the box, and in the drop-down list select "Category". Click the button.

Pro: (To my knowledge) up to date.

Con: Can only search by the begining of the category name (so, e.g. "lacking" will not give you "Category:Articles lacking sources"). Confusing Manifestation 23:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Fixing infoboxes

There seems to be a problem with the Template:Infobox Stadium. Some information inserted on the edit page does not appear on the article page. For example in the article Millennium Dome the template below was put on the edit page. However some of the information inserted here, does not appear on the article page. For example the information inserted for services engineer.

{{Infobox Stadium
| stadium_name      = The O<sub>2</sub> arena
| nickname          = 
| image             = [[Image:O2_arena.jpg|270px]]
| fullname          =
| location          = The O<sub>2</sub>, North Greenwich, London, England
| coordinates       = 51°30′10.14″N, 0°0′11.22″E
| broke_ground      =
| built             = Between 2003 and 2007
| opened            = Sunday, 24 June 2007
| renovated         = 
| expanded          = 
| closed            = 
| demolished        = 
| owner             = English Partnerships (Ultimate Landlord)
| operator          = Anschutz Entertainment Group UK
| surface           = Versatile
| construction_cost = £600 million to develop all of The O<sub>2</sub>
| architect         = HOK Sport
| structural engineer = Buro Happold
| services engineer = M-E Engineers 
| general_contractor= Sir Robert McAlpine
| project_manager   =
| main_contractors  = 
| former_names      = Millennium Dome
| tenants           = No Regular Tenants
| seating_capacity  = Upto 23, 000
| dimensions        = 
}}

Is there a way to fix this? ThanksTbo 157 20:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

It appears the template documentation contains parameters that are simply not in the template code. I'm not a template coder. You can ask for help at Wikipedia:Requested templates. PrimeHunter 23:36, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Page creation question

I notice that a number of publishing houses have pages, although your guidelines say please don't promote your business or product here. They seem to have specific enough information (eg, Baen Books) that someone close to the company seems to be writing the info. I'm asking on behalf of my publisher, Dragon Moon Press, if someone associated with DMP like an editor, author, webmaster, etc, can create such a page. DMP is small but legitimate (ie, not a vanity press) but it does not have the resources of a publishing giant like Baen or Tor but it publishes award-winning books that have other interesting distinctions (books making #1 on Amazon, a business model that is making the publishing community sit up and take notice) and it seems as worthy of notice on a site like Wikipedia as the bigger houses (in fact, this does seem like a subtle bias that a large house and all its authors and books could be listed while a smaller house is precluded for whatever reason if we're following the rules as posted). Would a house like DMP simply need an enthusiastic, wiki/web literate fan to create the page, or would one of the above be acceptable? Thanks, Karen/minissa Minissa 21:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Please read WP:COI. If you can write the article in a neutral and verifiable manner, it would be an acceptable article, but many companies cannot manage that. If nothing else, you can request someone else write an article for you. -- Kesh 01:10, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Colorize a grid?

I am using the following to colorize the top row of a grid, however I cant seem to figure out how to colorize each indvidual cell with unique colors. Is there a way to do this? Thx!

COLOR GRID

COL1	COL2	COL3	COL4
1	2	3	4
1	2	3	4
1	2	3	4

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bpomykala (talk • contribs).

See Help:Table#Color; scope of parameters. PrimeHunter 03:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Perfect!

ok..I need some help..

ive asked before and got told no. So i will ask one more time. I am moving my pictures from here to the commons. however i want them first deleting from here before i move them there. dont ask why. I just want it to happen this way ok? (yes im OCD..i just need it to hapen this way)

the pictures i need deleting are Image:Sachsenhausen Concentration Camp Front Gate.jpg and Image:Reichstag House Of Parliament.jpg.

Please? Fethroesforia 21:14, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

How can I delete a page I have created?

How can I delete a page I have created?

--Leonhutton 21:14, 10 July 2007 (UTC) leonhutton

Use the {{prod}} template- ~Crowstar~ 21:21, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Good faith edit?

[21]Was this a good faith edit? It looks like he was trying to be good after my various warnings, but it might be vandalism... Help here? ~Crowstar~ 21:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

IMHO it looks like he was just really confused. --Banana 22:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

What to do when a group of editors are resistant to improving an article?

I discovered the World War Z article recently after reading the book, and observed that the article consists just about entirely of an INCREDIBLY long and detailed plot summary (some of which has been moved to other articles such as Characters in World War Z and Enemies in World War Z). The article is a massive violation of WP:NOT#PLOT, with some WP:OR mixed in (not a single reference is cited for anything). The problem (as seen in the Talk page, particularly whenever someone tries to point out that Wikipedia DOES have policies and standards) is that multiple editors consistently revert (as "vandalism") any attempt at improvement through paring down the summary and removing the violating parts of the article. None of the information I can find about dispute resolution on Wikipedia seems to apply to a situation of many editors who actively wish to defy policy in order to protect "their" article. Is there any recourse in this situation? Propaniac 21:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

A good way to do it is to start forking it off to other pages, like you've been doing. You can also file a request for comment on the page, outlining your revisions, and they can explain why they don't like them. Just stick to it, and make sure you cite the heck out of things; since removing referenced material in favor of unreferenced OR is vandalism, and is not covered by the three revert rule --22:12, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Main HTML color

Can someone tell me the background color in HTML for the default monobook? Thanks! :) Rockstar (^T/_C) 22:19, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

And by background color I mean that light, sky blue color. Thanks! Rockstar (^T/_C) 22:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know off the top of my head, but here is how I would look for it. On my user page, I have some useful searches:

• Search Meta with Google
• Search MediaWiki.org with Google

and I would search Meta for: background color monobook and search MediaWiki.org for: background color monobook. I see a few potentially promising search results but I don't have time to look through them at the moment. I'll check back later to see if anybody else posts and answer for you. --Teratornis 01:47, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll take a look and see what I can dig up. Rockstar (^T/_C) 19:01, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Now that this question reappeared on the Help desk so I can update it, the answer may be in WP:COLOR (or WP:COLOUR for those on the right side of the pond). --Teratornis 19:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Putting a signature in a template

I remember having seen, in some template, a signature block (~~~~) arranged in such a way that, when I posted the template, it automatically signed the comment inserted by the template. Does anyone know of a template that does that? Bart133 ^{(t) (c)} 22:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

You can, but make sure that:

1. The template is in your user space.
2. You are substituting it, not transcluding it.

See WP:SIG for details about what is, and is not, allowed. --Haemo 22:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

You need to do something like: "<includeonly>~~</includeonly>~~". Note that you must substitute the template. I think Haemo misunderstood your question. Prodego ^talk 22:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, yeah, it's looks like I did. My apologies. --Haemo 04:07, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

{{Uw-vblock}} is an example of a template that does this, if you just want to see the wikitext in action. --JayHenry 06:29, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

July 11

Responding to another user's question on my talk page.

Hello,

I got a message from another user about some edits I made recently. How do I respond to her message? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tommy9281 (talk • contribs).

Please sign messages here and on talk pages with ~~~~. This automatically makes a link to your user page. The editor apparently signed the message on your talk page, so you can click there and (assuming it's the right editor) get to User talk:Arwen undomiel. There you can reply by first clicking + at the top for a new section, or "edit" to the right of a section you want to continue discussion in. You can also answer on your own talk page in the same section, but it's possible the other editor will not notice the answer there. PrimeHunter 03:43, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

content overlapping taxobox

I added some images to the Pileated Woodpecker article and I'm having trouble with the formatting. The images are overlapping the taxobox.

David.margrave 05:45, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

One fast option is to use this wikitext right above the gallery: <br clear="all"/>

This will push the gallery below the taxobox. For now this will create some white space between the article text and the pictures. However, if you are planning to lengthen that text this might be a good solution. --JayHenry 06:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Lyrics redirect

--71.82.147.213 06:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC) Background: On LyricWiki, there is a song (an older one) that is known as a sort of false name (due to it's internet distribution) The song is "Conversation with W. Cullen Hart," better known as "Conversation with Robert Schneider" by Neutral Milk Hotel

Problem: I want to be able to redirect a lyric search from "Conversation with Robert Schneider" to the W. Cullen Hart page. I cannot get the tag right to send it to the lyrics, instead of sending it to the wiktionary page...

Proposal: If you could assist me by explaining what #redirect is looking for to send the user to other lyrics, I would be appreciative.

If LyricsWiki works like Wikipedia, you'd use #REDIRECT [[Conversation with W. Cullen Hart]] --Haemo 07:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Image copyright

I uploaded an image at the request of another user. You can see what I've done here. Is there anything I, or Tom, now need to do to correct the copyright/licensing status? You'll see that the licence itself contains my user name, although the situation is explained in the narrative. AndyJones 07:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

This question seems to belong on Commons, but never mind that. I think it's enough to replace the image copyright tag with {{PD-self|author=I, [[:en:User:Tom Reedy|Tom Reedy]]}}. I'd do it, but I think it looks less suspicious if you do it yourself. --Pekaje 10:51, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Aircraft Navigation

An airline which is flying on an international route is under which countries atc? Before entering the international air border what procedures the pilot had to undergo?

Your question is better suited for the Wikipedia:Reference desk, but I can give a bit of information. It depends on where you are... the control services over the North Atlantic, for example, are shared between Canada and Europe. See this link and this link for information about this specific case. Sancho 07:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Forgotten password

My computer dumped all of its preferences the other night. (Not my doing...it just got a wild hair.) Since I generally have Wikipedia remember me I don't often log in and couldn't remember my correct password. I clicked the button to have a new one sent, but what was sent to me doesn't work. I have both typed it in (case sensitive of course) and cut-and-pasted it, and either way I get a notice saying that it's the wrong password. The same thing happened the few other times I've forgotten my Wikipedia password. Any clue what I might be doing wrong? PurpleChez 11 July 07 7:35 AM EST

I'm not sure. The system is such that, temporarily, your chosen password and the password in your email will both work. On that principle, I recommend that you ask for yet another new password and try that one. If it still doesn't work, try posting your question on the bureaucrat noticeboard because the b'crats handle username issues. Shalom ^Hello 12:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

External Links

Hi,

Our company have recently developed a range of Talking Mobile Phone Phrase Books which are absolutely free for people to download and we notice that there are external links on some of your pages to other languages products.

For example:

The page on German Language http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_language has an external link going to http://www.german-flashcards.com/ which requires registration amongst other things.

We feel our offering is relevent to this page and many others and since it has many advantages both socially and environmentally we would like to put up some external links.

We have tried this ourselves although they always appear to go the next day although other, premium services seem stay.

Can you help?

Many Thanks

Roy Forsdick —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.9.156.13 (talk • contribs)

Projects

How do I tell other Wikipedians about my idea for a project in a way that makes the project possible? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.204.179.219 (talk)

What's the idea about and do you mean a Wikipedia:WikiProject? There are many places to make different kinds of suggestions, for example Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals, and the idea may already have been considered. Other editors may take you more seriously if you register an account and sign your messages with ~~~~. PrimeHunter 13:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Also see WP:ACCOUNT, WP:SIG, and WP:PROJGUIDE. If you want to tell some specific Wikipedians about your idea, you can leave messages on their user talk pages. If you told us (the Help desk) the idea you have mind, that is if you made your question definite rather than hypothetical, then we could give you some correspondingly definite advice. Hypothetical questions get hypothetical answers, not to say that the hypothetical answers are bad, they just might be wide of the mark depending on what you really have in mind. --Teratornis 16:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Who edits Wikipedia?

How will you edit your site regularly? Does all the topics which are updated done by the users only? Or is there any comittee for updating? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.7.115.222 (talk • contribs)

See Wikipedia:Who writes Wikipedia. --Teratornis 16:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

will i get banned

hi My brother likes vandalising wikipedia i dont. If he keeps vandalising using our ip adress will i get my name get banned because of him? --Gustyfalcon 14:01, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Fortunately, what's likely to happen is that only unregistered users from your IP will be blocked from editing - you'll be fine, you won't be blocked or banned. :) I remember when that wasn't possible and everyone on an IP was blocked - it was once a frustrating issue. I recommend that you monitor your brother's activities and revert his vandalism if it isn't corrected immmediately. Hope that helps, Nihiltres^(t.l) 14:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Looking for a "My Wiki" type of interface

Hello all.

I am looking to create a type of "My Wiki" for my employees where I / my employees can choose items relevent to our jobs / company and have them listed in one place for all employees to access.

Therefore, my employees use a single username and go to this location to view info that I / we select. We can also modify the info, etc.

Is this functionality available?

Thanks!

jgaleza —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgaleza (talk • contribs)

Yes. See that "Powered by MediaWiki" icon at the bottom of the page? Click on it, download MediaWiki, and install it on your company's web server. Then, you will have your own company version of Wikiepdia. -- Kainaw^(what?) 14:28, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

See Corporate wiki, b:Wiki Science/How to start a Wiki, mw:Manual:Wiki on a stick (to install MediaWiki as your own personal wiki to experiment with), and search the Help desk archive for: start wiki. (Also see TWiki, because while the MediaWiki software which powers Wikipedia is excellent wiki software by any measure, MediaWiki may not have as many business-specific features your company would want as TWiki might.) Be aware that while it is fairly easy for any competent system administrator to install MediaWiki and start your own wiki, initially your wiki will be very plain, and your employees' initial attempts to edit on it may be very uneven. To build your own wiki with quality similar to what you see on Wikipedia requires a lot of work. It also requires your employees to comprehend how they can exploit wiki technology in their work, and they may take some time to get it. Most people have never edited on a wiki before, so they have a lot of habits which need updating, and they may not realize this at first. I call this the "jet engine on a balloon syndrome," where people see a new technology, and initially try to force their existing tools and work habits onto it, rather than re-thinking what they do and developing new habits more suited to the new technology. This is analogous to a hypothetical culture of balloonists who suddenly find themselves with jet engines, whereupon their first reflex is to try strapping jet engines onto their balloons. Jet engines obviously don't work very well with balloons; to use a jet engine to full advantage, one has to throw out the old platform of the balloon and design a completely new airframe to work with the new kind of engine. Someone who straps a jet engine to a balloon is likely to develop an unfairly negative impression of the new technology. With wikis, you may have people who reject the technology because it doesn't let them continue typing their documents in Microsoft Word, for example. Another example is communicating on talk pages; new users may be more likely to think in terms of communicating via e-mail which is familiar to them. The whole notion of collaborative editing takes getting used to as well; most people have no experience with a system that lets anybody in a large group of people edit everybody else's stuff, and a whole bunch of expectations and assumptions have to change. --Teratornis 16:03, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Writing an Article

How do I gte started with the article. How do i create a page for it?

-Saad —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saadwarraich (talk • contribs)

Read the instructions on the top of this page - especially the one with the link to Wikipedia:Your first article. -- Kainaw^(what?) 14:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Removing a Copyright Tag Notice

Thanks for the info regarding removing a no-copyright-tag warning from my photo, Image:AdamSolomonArt.JPG. However, I do not know how to remove the notice (I have already added the requested tag). Any suggestions?

Thanks Goldengooseproductions 15:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia

Where do I get the template to welcome other Wikipedians?

The Ronin 15:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Welcome templates. tiZom_(2¢) 15:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Retire

I hd recently notced a retired user. How does one retire from Wikipedia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cheesecake92 (talk • contribs).

To retire, you simply stop editing with your account. There is no need to do anything further, except possibly you might like to indicate on your userpage that you have retired so people are aware of this. Will (aka Wimt) 15:58, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Like by adding the {{retired}} template.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Add new External Link to Coca-Cola article

how do I add to the External links for the Coca-Cola article?

What is my Coca-Cola collectible worth?

Good resources to get more information about Coca-Cola collectibles and determine potential value.

Available at http://www.2collectcola.com/page/ACC/value

Copyright Always Collectors Corner 2collectcola.com must be noted in the article. Written by Linda Harry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mymaddison (talk • contribs).

External links should satisfy the guideline Wikipedia:External links. If you have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest then don't add it. You can suggest it at Talk:Coca-Cola instead. Many people would probably like to have their link in Coca-Cola, but Wikipedia is not a directory. PrimeHunter 17:36, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Barber's pole

why is the barber shop`s color red, blue and white —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.100.234.170 (talk • contribs)

See Barber's pole. --Teratornis 16:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Size of wikipedia

How many terabytes of data does Wikipedia take up? —User:AL

& yes, I read Size of Wikipedia

Dunno how many terabytes, but at the current moment, Wikipedia has 6,937,448 articles and 48,522,363 total users. —« ANIMUM » 16:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Size comparisons mentions words and estimated characters in 2006. Images must require a lot of the total data but I don't know the size. PrimeHunter 17:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Technical FAQ#How big is the database? says: "As of late August 2006, database storage takes about 1.2 terabytes" PrimeHunter 15:55, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

where to get the latest ver of Vermunt's ILS

(I deleted the question. This page is for questions about using Wikipedia.) Shalom ^Hello 19:48, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

See Learning styles and David A. Kolb and follow their links. Also try Google:Vermunt's Inventory of Learning Styles. (It's probably worth noting that even though education reformers have been continuously reforming education every few years for more than a century, children today still learn with about the same efficiency as did the children of Ancient Greece.) Even though the Help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia, Wikipedia:Help desk/How to answer#Questions belonging on the Reference desk suggests trying to answer Reference desk questions anyway. In many cases, answers are available from a simple search of Wikipedia or a search engine. I wonder how many more educational reforms and gimmicks will be necessary to enable everyone to do their own Web searches? --Teratornis 20:05, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

How can I remove a box?

Like on this article?

The indenting spaces that were at the beginning of each line is interpreted as a box. Removing the spaces seems to have taken care of that problem, although some content & formatting work is still needed. jeffjon 19:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!Shikyo3 23:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

No Fair Use Rationale/No Source Tags

I was just wondering, what were the names of the templates for not having a fair use rationale or source? I used them once but I can't remember them (though I think it was {{subst:nfux}} or something among those lines). Also, it would help if I could find the link to the page that listed them. Thanks! SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 19:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind. SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 20:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

redirect

can you tell me what's wrong? trying to redirect inkwells to inkwell #REDIRECT inkwell but comes up with text #redirect Palmiped 19:51, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict x1) Fixed it, you just added an extra line after the redirect, and redirects should be just what you put, except without extra text, including spaces and new lines. SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 19:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

cheers Palmiped 20:09, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

secure.wikimedia.org

I am forced to log in through secure.wikimedia.org to make edits because I use HughesNet. I am wondering if there is a way for me to change my computer settings to stop the annoying "This page contains both secure and nonsecure items. Do You want to display the nonsecuse items?" It comes up every time I switch pages on here, and is very annoying. It gives me no option to stop asking me or anything. (67.142.130.43 20:17, 11 July 2007 (UTC))

All you have to do is click yes. If there is a button with text that says "do not show me this message again", click on it. Razorclaw (talk · contribs) 20:40, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

That is the problem, there is not the normal "do not show me this message again", and frankly it is annoying clicking yes every time I switch a page, make an edit, et cetera. On this site, my answer will always be the same. It seems insane that I would have to click yes every time. (Mind meal 21:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC))

There might be an option in the "Internet Options" section of the tools. SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 21:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

There might be. But, as of now I can't find it. This is nuts! There must be a way to stop this security box from coming up every single time I switch pages. It nearly defeats the purpose of having broadband for faster editing, et cetera. An extra click that is not necessary. (Mind meal 21:27, 11 July 2007 (UTC))

• I found the answer to my question. I went to Internet Options > Security> Custom Settings > Miscellaneous > Display Mixed Content> Clicked "Enable". No more box! :) (Mind meal 21:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC))

Membership Confirmation email expired before stated expiration time.. Trouble reregistering.

I received from you:

Wikipedia e-mail address confirmation

Someone from the IP address 70.19.56.253 has registered the account "Anitanyc" with this e-mail address on the English Wikipedia.

To confirm that this user account really does belong to you and to activate e-mail features on Wikipedia, please open this URL in your browser:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Confirmemail/013a20563d7aad53cb51439b694d913b

If you did not recently register for Wikipedia (or if you registered with a different e-mail address), please do *not* click on the link.

This confirmation e-mail will automatically expire at 19:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC). ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I tired to confirm well within expiration time at least 4 times in manner described. Each time got following response:

~Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org

e.g. 17:20 EST 7/11/07 Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired. Anitanyc 21:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

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What is the proper format for citing magazine articles?

What is the proper format for citing magazine articles? Globalinfo 23:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Use this template:

{{Citation | last = | first = | author-link = | last2 = | first2 = | author2-link = | title = | newspaper = | pages = | year = | date = | url = }}

--Haemo 23:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

July 12

Image Question

This doesn't have to do directly with Wikipedia, but most of you editors are well versed in the arts of fair use and all that jazz. Anyway, here's my deal. I plan on making a satire site about GameFAQs, entitled LameFAQs. Here is what I've got for a header, and I was wondering if me and my business associate would have to worry about copyright infringement with these images. We don't want to get screwed over because of our ignorance. Original Header: [22] LameFAQs Header: [23] and [24]. If this isn't the proper place to ask these sort of questions, by all means, delete/move it, whatever. Mr.KlicK 17:44, 13 July 2007 (UTC)Mr.KlicK

graph making

how do I get a graph? Is there a way to get a graph from numbers in a wiki table, or do we have to make it seperately and import it, like as a screen cap? Kripto 06:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

don't know. yup, i am just a helpful kinda guy. 121.127.193.176 09:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

There is a WikiPlot extension. To see whether it is installed on a given MediaWiki wiki, check the list of installed extensions at Special:Version on that wiki. MediaWiki has no graphing functions by default as far as I know, so if no graphing function is available you would have to create your graph with an external application and upload it as an image file. --Teratornis 14:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Followup question: what software is recommended to produce a graph as an image suitable for uploading. I use Kubuntu Linux, and I think Kripto does too, but answers based on (preferably free) Windows software would be useful too. It is certainly possible to use a spreadsheet to create a graph, but to get that into image format (ie jpg or png), a screen capture seems rather inelegant.-gadfium 21:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Ideally, graphs should be made in the SVG vector format, as these files are lossless. People recommend Inkscape as a good vector editor, but I don't know how you would make it plot graphics directly. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 23:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Editing Problem

I edited an article. The Real Testament, an album by rap artist: Plies. I edited it, saved it, it looked like how I edited it, I reload the page and then a second later it had reverted to its previous form before I edited it.Frozilla33 23:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

It looks like another user thought you were vandalizing the page. However, I notice that you have included a link to a reference, whereas the previous version did not have this. I suggest you message the user, and talk about what going on. You can see the history of the page by clicking the "history" tab. --Haemo 00:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

query re. adding info.

Without any explanation, my additional info. was deleted from Diane Bish's page here - I merely added data which I felt should be included in her list of accomplishments, etc.; data which is distributed whenever she presents a program. But I find that my additions have been removed and the article again is the skimpy excerpt it was prior to my additions; all within mere hours. I do not understand the reasoning for this and feel I should have been informed as to what I did wrong in order to correct it rather than merely having my contribution erased. Looking forward to hearing from you as soon as possible, with all sincerity, and wishing you continued success in this worthwhile contribution you're making with your various sites, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anne-ology (talk • contribs)

It looks like they were reverted by Rambutan (talk · contribs), with the comments that they were unsourced and did not reflect a neutral point of view. You can talk to this user on their talk page about this. --Haemo 00:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Creating Multiple Accounts

Is it okay to create more than one account on Wikipedia?

Skunkmaster 02:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

It is discouraged in most cases. See Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. And please use a signature that links to your user page at Skunkmaster. In case you typed the signature manually: Typing ~~~~ will automatically make a linked signature if you haven't changed signature settings. PrimeHunter 02:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

On the Wikipedia:Sock puppetry page, it says that you can't create and more accounts with more powers, (one account has admin powers and you try to get admin powers on another). Is it okay to create an account with admin powers and on another with Bureacrat status? Or something like that?

Skunkmaster 03:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Only Bureaucrats can confer admin powers on another user. If you are not a bureaucrat already, you cannot create an account that has extra powers. Special:Listusers has a "Group" pull-down list that lets you display all the users belonging to the various permission groups. --Teratornis 15:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Becoming an admin is not easy, and becoming a bureaucrat is extremely harder. It is not fair game to create multiple accounts, except in very limited circumstances. If you indeed created multiple accounts, got them to have powers, and were discovered, you would very likely be banned. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 23:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Copyright licensing for uploaded .jpg files

I'm very confused on the proper proceedure to correctly identify whether a copyright exists for a .jpg I want to upload. I have a baseball card I've scanned and would like to add to a players page. But I'm not sure if the card is copyrighted and if so, can it be used or what would I need to do in order to?

Please help. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Twh66 (talk • contribs).

Well, there's a good question. You could look at the various baseball card images in Baseball card and see how their uploaders tagged them. For example, see the copyright information on Image:King Kelly 0554fu.jpg. Also see WP:COPYRIGHT for general information. --Teratornis 19:55, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

What else is there?

I know that Admins, Bureaucrats, and Stewards have special powers, is there anything else?

Also what do Stewards do?

Skunkmaster 03:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Stewards can make another user an administrator, bureacrat, etc on any Wikimedia wiki (wikinews, commons, the different language wikipedias, etc). See more information on Stewards at the meta page here. I hope this information doesn't make you power-hungry... ;) Sebi _[talk] 04:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Full list of other user classes, also on the meta here. Sebi _[talk] 04:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia:Administrators. Perhaps the fastest way to experience this kind of power is to start your own wiki, but you won't get to wield that power over 48,522,363 users right away. There's nothing inherently wrong with craving power, in fact that's the main appeal of Wikipedia, that anybody has the power to get in here and start changing things on one of the world's most popular Web sites. Most other popular sites like Google don't give users even a tiny fraction of that much power. That's no knock on those other sites, just a measure of how radical Wikipedia is. --Teratornis 20:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

how to semi protect a section of an article from future vandalism

in the article on "Concordia University", the 'Fraternities and Sororities' section of the articles is subject to vandalism on roughly a monthly basis. As a member of one of the organizations mentionned therein, i would like to have that section of the article semi-protected. and/or be informed of how to request protection myself. i attempted to follow guidelines from FAQs or copy-and-pasting source from already semi-protected pages unsuccessfully.

My username is: Pile It —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.239.81.115 (talk • contribs).

Sections of articles cannot be protected, it's the full article protected or no protection. You can request protection of the article at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, but the protection policy states that pages are not protected to prevent future vandalism, only to stop vandalism that is happening presently. Sebi _[talk] 04:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Looking at the page and its history, the page has never been protected. Please do not place protection tags on a page that is not protected, as this is misleading to other readers and editors. Sebi _[talk] 04:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi Pile it. Articles can only be protected by administrators. The templates and codes you are seeing in pages that are protected are there to inform that protection has been done, but do not effect protection themselves. You can request page protection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection but it is very unlikely such request will work, as the estetik article is not vandalized often enough to warrant it. The reason protection is used sparingly is because of the chilling effect it can have on good edits. By the way, there's no need to manually type your signature; just type ~~~~ at the end of a post and it will automatically format to your signature, linked to your userpage (and I now see you were editing while not logged in)--Fuhghettaboutit 04:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I had a question for you guys

Can you guys create a page for me here is what I want it to look like

<massive post removed>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.113.111.117 (talk • contribs).

Please do not submit the entire text of a proposed article here. If you'd like to request a page, please go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Thank you.--Fuhghettaboutit 04:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Don't do it there either; format it properly. The mess of HTML tags and stuff make it impossible to turn into an article. It was removed from Wikipedia:Articles for creation earlier because it had untagged/broken code in it which were corrupting the rest of the page. --Haemo 04:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey peeps!

Dude, can you give me directions to a book store for the Harry Potter book?Thanks a freakin' lot. Henry Plenterson

www.switchboard.com or www.yellowpages.com then put in your zip code and the name of a book store. Useight 09:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I need...

The link to Jimbo Wales's userpage, thanks. --71.96.240.2 05:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

User:Jwales. --Haemo 05:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Graphics Packages

Please Tell Me Which Graphics Packages/Applications Are Available In The Market For Image Manupulations? (Some Most Popular Applications Are MS-Paint; Corel Draw etc.)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Haemo 05:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... =

On my account's userpage, an admin keeps replacing it with "bsbsbsnrjrjegwsnwertyu", but I can't say his username, or who knows what he will then do to me/ advice? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.96.240.2 (talk • contribs) 05:41, 12 July 2007.

Admins do not have God-like powers, so you can tell us here, or on WP:ANI. --Haemo 05:42, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Given this user's contributions today, I'm getting the sense they may be trolling. I may be wrong, but in either case I would reiterate Haemo's comment that if you're going to make accusations about an admin, being vauge helps no-one and being specific helps us work out who's at fault, with no repurcussions to any innocent party. Confusing Manifestation 06:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

NO I mean on my userpage of my account, not IP address. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.96.240.2 (talk • contribs) 06:16, 12 July 2007.

We know what you're talking about; see above. --Haemo 06:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

= == Jimbo wales

what is Jimbo Wale's car model, thanks, just curious!--Jimbo 05:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.96.240.2 (talk • contribs)

You'd have to ask Jimbo. – Luna Santin (talk) 06:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I work in the same building as him. If you really do care, next time I see him I'll take a look at his car. It might be easier just to ask him, though. Rockstar (^T/_C) 06:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

If you are not Jimbo you should not sign your Help desk posts as him. --Teratornis 20:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Col-span tables

I'm editing "Flower Mound High School" under the Extracurricular Activities heading to reinstate a previously deleted list in a new table format. Due to the length of one of the items, I've expanded it to fill two columns (! colspan = 2), but my method recolors the box and bolds the text within. How can I reformat/edit the table to keep it from doing that?

You were very close! :) The ! needs to be a |, in this case -- they both denote the start of table cells, but where | is a "normal" cell, ! indicates a column heading (which, interestingly enough, I've never seen in the middle of a table, before, so I've learned a little something, tonight, too). Went ahead and fixed this, for you. Keep up the good work. :) – Luna Santin (talk) 08:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks,

Jonathan

pics

how can i put a photo or image on a page —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Raja101 (talk • contribs).

• If you want to add an existing image to an article, type [[Image:File name.jpg|150px|center|Optional caption.]] to the article – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, 150px with the size in pixels you want the image to appear, center with the alignment of the image on the page and Optional caption with the caption, which of course, is optional. See our picture tutorial for more information.
• If you want to upload an image from your computer, to put in an article, you must find out what license the image is licensed under. If you know your image is licensed under a free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons, where all projects have access to the image. If you are unsure what license your image is licensed under, see the file upload wizard for more information. Also, please read Wikipedia's image use policy, because if you upload the image under a false license, you may be blocked.

Hope this has helped. Sebi _[talk] 07:38, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Becoming an Admin

Is it possible for a few of you guys/gals to take a quick peek at my contributions/edits/comments and give me an estimate on my changes to passing an RfA? Useight 09:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

If you haven't read it already, the Wikipedia:Administrators page is a good place to find lots of information on the subject, as is Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list. To get a good idea of whether or not you'll pass an RFA or not, the best thing you can do is watch (and maybe take part in) a few RFA discussions, and see who passes and who doesn't, and why. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 11:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

A few quick notes. While you have a fair number of edits (1750ish) there are many users that have a personal threshold above this (there are many other users who rail at those who oppose on the basis of editcount alone, but it is nevertheless true). From looking at your first few hundred contributions, a very large percentage are minor edits. I don't know if this indicative of all your contributions, but there are also editors who want to see substantial main space contributions, including article writing. Up until recently, your edit summary usage has not been consistent. Many editors look for perfect or near perfect usagee (meaning always leaving an edit summary). You can change your preferences to prompt you whenever you forget to provide an edit summary. None of these issue are "deal breakers", but I do notice one real problem. You have been warning users for creating pages with "warning vandal". Those are good faith article postings, albeit, speedy candidates. Only users who patently vandalize should ever be referred to as vandals, and even when the vandalism is blatant, it's divisive to label them vandals in the edit summary. A descriptive edit summary, such as noting the tag you are using in the edit summary ("{{uw-creation}}") would be much better.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you should file an Editor review. --Kaypoh 12:38, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Aluminum composite panels

dear sir i would like to know about alluminium composite pannel where in it is manufactured using pvdf. i would like to know what is this pvdf

thank you prakash

I believe it stands for Polyvinylidene fluoride. For future questions such as this, please ask at a section of theWikipedia:Reference desk. They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here's the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

i want flow chart of compound interest

i want flow chart of compound interest—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.95.185.149 (talk • contribs).

Have you tried the miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here's the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

urlencode for title names

In templates, urlencode replaces spaces with + signs. What function replaces them with _ so they become proper Wikipedia titles? -- Kainaw^(what?) 13:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I can't imagine a use for which you would need to insert underscores (_) - the internal wiki syntax parser recognizes internal links with spaces in the same way it recognizes them with underscores. Unless you need to link to an external wiki (unlikely, ridiculously unlikely in template form), simply use the page title with spaces - it should work. Nihiltres^(t.l) 13:39, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

OK. So, if I have my own wiki and I want to link to Wikipedia. I have to create the URL as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_title. However, the parameter passed is "Page title". If I don't replace that space with a _, the link will not work. If I use urlencode, it becomes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page+title - which does not work. So, you see, this is not unlikely, ridiculously unlikely in a template form. It is a rather common process of trying to link from one wiki site to another. -- Kainaw^(what?) 13:42, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Magic words#Namespaces and URLs which very briefly mentions the {{urlencode:x y @}} parser function. If you want to use this on your own MediaWiki wiki, you may have to install the Parser functions extension. But if your real goal is to link to articles on Wikipedia from your own MediaWiki wiki, you should be able to use an interwiki link like this: [[wikipedia:Page title]]. You can also define your own interwiki link prefixes, for example on wikis I administer I like to define w: to be a shorter prefix to link to Wikipedia articles, along with prefixes for other sites (such as internal company sites for a corporate wiki to link to). If you mess with the default interwiki link map, you should write a help page documenting all your additions, so your wiki users can see what additional prefixes are available. --Teratornis 14:11, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, "anchorencode" is what I needed. -- Kainaw^(what?) 14:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

How do I add a link to a page?

On the 'Cain (disambiguation)' page, my favorite one is missing. He's the fictional Cain from the Genxorcist.com online comic of the same name. The site and the series have been around for since at least 2002 (when I started reading). How can I add this to your list? Can I add this to your list?

I am NOT tech savy, so if you have 'instructions for dummies', I'd appreciate it. Thanks for the help and info!

170.110.235.86 14:08, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Instructions for dummies are on the cheat sheet. You probably need to do the following:

1. Click on this link: Cain (disambiguation).
2. Click "edit this page".
3. Add text similar to the following:

*Cain (webcomic), hosted on Gexorcist.com since 2002

Shalom ^Hello 14:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Note that disambiguation pages are only intended for navigation in Wikipedia. They are solely for subjects which have (or in some cases are likely to get) coverage in Wikipedia. It's not a list of known things with that name. I have not evaluated whether Cain (webcomic) is suited for Wikipedia. PrimeHunter 16:07, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

What happened to Sivaji: The Boss?

It was so big a few months ago with sooo much information.

Now its really small.

What have you done to it? 87.74.19.112 14:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Click the history tab on the article. False information, unreferenced rumors, and other things not directly related to the article were removed. -- Kainaw^(what?) 14:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Images Won't Appear for Me

For some reason, as of a couple days ago, my browser shows me blank space instead of the images on all Wikipedia pages. Images load fine on all other sites, and i can see the wikipedia images if i load the URL of the image itself in my browser.. but i can't see them in the context of the site. What's up?

This question comes up occasionally on the Help desk (see this Google search for it). If you can't find a solution in the previous replies, tell us which Web browser you are using, and/or look in Wikipedia:Browser notes. --Teratornis 20:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Seven Mile Bridge in Florida

Can you please tell me how many lanes there are on the Seven Mile Bridge? Is it 2 miles each way, meaning four lanes? Or is it just one each way, meaning two?

Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 166.109.0.176 (talk)

Seven Mile Bridge is 38 feet wide and has 2 lanes in total, 1 in each direction. There are also two-lane freeways in USA. PrimeHunter 15:38, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Deletion Log

I have written an article which has been deleted. I cannot find it in the deletion log - its title was "Ben lewis". I also don't know what was wrong about the article exactly. Maybe you can help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katharina Harnack (talk • contribs)

Third Day History Christian Rock

• It's in the deletion logs: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=delete&page=Ben+lewis WilyD 15:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

News Briefs

What is the best way to go about finding news briefs for June 2007 for a collegiate yearbook? Thanks! 199.64.0.252 15:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. Shalom ^Hello 19:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know the "best" way but see 2007 and June 2007. --Teratornis 20:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Parameter syntax

Can anyone help me with this one? It is driving me crazy. I am working with Template:Month3 and I included this:

|satcolour= {{#if:{{{satcolour|}}}|<font color={{{satcolour}}}>| }}

This is what I want. When the template is called with the parameter satcolour=blue (or any other colour), the next template must be called with:

|satcolour=<font color=blue> 

Otherwise it must be:

|satcolour=

It appears that my command is finished after the second of a triplet of braces. And it adds a double quote after the third brace. In other words the symbols

}"> | }}

are passed literally.

What went wrong? HandigeHarry 16:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

It keeps insisting that I log in

I log in as Bobt250, it accepts me as being logged in. After that anytime I try to do anything it keeps telling me I need to log in. No amount of logging in satisfies Wiki. Consequently I asked a question of a moderator and I appeared as unsigned and cannot edit my preferences. User:67.142.130.55 (Talk)

Perhaps you need to enable cookies in your browser, as described here? jeffjon 20:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Emailed password delay

I have requested that my password be emailed to me but over an hour later I am still waiting. My mail server is well connected and always on so I expect no delays in receiving email. How long before it is sent?

I believe that my login is "druid" and my email address is darcy@druid.net.

Thanks.

208.65.241.192 16:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

There a two potential problems. First, you might have typed in the wrong email address when put in your email address for your wikipedia account. Finally, and most likely the wikipedia email system is down momentarily. Hope that helps. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 18:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

So is there some way to find out if my email address is incorrect for my login? Wikipedia is too big a system for them to be down for such a long time. How do I contact an admin?

208.65.241.192 19:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Admins on wikipedia have nothing to do with the servers themselves. You'd have to contact someone with the WikiMedia Foundation. -- Kesh 21:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Or donate lots of money so they can buy more servers. Generally most of these server slowdown problems clear up in a day or two if you just wait (see: Wikipedia:There is no deadline). I'd be surprised if complaining about a problem like this would get it fixed any sooner, although I could be wrong. --Teratornis 02:10, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. Operator error. As soon as I realized that login names were case sensitive I had my password sent using the correct name. DruidZ 01:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Resolved

Editing Page Titles

Is it possible to edit page titles? If so, how does one do it?

Ltmwiki 17:39, 12 July 2007 (UTC)ltm

Move the page (click the move tab). Moving is, in a sense, renaming the page. -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

More about page moves is found at WP:MOVE -=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 18:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Also if the move is potentially controversial, it might be a good idea to list it at WP:RM. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 18:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Licensing of non-replacable, non-free image of a deceased person

I have an image of an individual who is deceased that should fall under fair use, but on the image upload page I don't see an intuitive license for this in the drop down. any suggestion on what license to use for an image of a deceased person where I can attribute the photog and the image is non-replacable fair use in the article about the individual because it is one of only 3 existing photographs of the subject? I don't normally do image loads so I'm not overly familiar with that page.--Isotope23 18:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, I think I figured it out...

Resolved

Multiple categories

Is there a way to search for articles members of 2 or more specific categories. For example, all articles that are both Category:All_articles_with_unsourced_statements and Category:Birds? Burzmali 20:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 June 13#Intersect to categories (sic) and you can search the Help desk archive for this question. Side note: when you want to display category links so they appear in the text, rather than categorizing the page itself into those categories, place a colon before the category name, like this: [[:Category:Birds]] (see Help:Category). --Teratornis 20:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Burzmali 20:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Neurology categorization

Under Neurology, there is neurophysiology, neurobiology, neuroanatomy, neurochemistry, medical diagnostics, and perhaps a few that I haven't thot of. I want to put them there as subcategories. How? Brewhaha@edmc.net 03:27, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

At the bottom of Category:Neurology is a link to the parent category Category:Neuroscience. That has many subcategories including Category:Neurophysiology which has the subcategory Category:Neurochemistry. It's not my field and I don't know what would be the most logical structure, but we try to avoid that the same category is subcategory of a lot of related categories which already link to eachother. Related categories can become hard to navigate if they are large and filled with the same subcategories. PrimeHunter 03:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

See also Help:Category and Wikipedia:Categorization. PrimeHunter 03:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Japanese/Chinese characters

I am using Firefox on Windows XP, and every Japanese and Chinese (among others) show up as question marks. How do I fix this? 69.117.70.39 20:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Multilingual support (East Asian).-gadfium 21:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Add information

I would like to know how to add information to an already exisiting page. Example: If I want to add a store to a designer's page, like where to find there pieces, how would I go about doing that?

Use the "edit this page" tab, or click on one of the "edit" links which appear next to each section header to edit just that part of the page.-gadfium 21:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Deletion Code

I'm curious about a submission I made for Filmmaker James Myer that was deleted. His work is notable: (His documentary, Multiple Personality: Reality and Illusion chronicled the life of Chris Costner-Sizemore, the first person diagnosed with MPD, and portrayed in The Three Faces of Eve. This and other international work was linked and verifiable on the submission at James Myer] at the Internet Movie Database, and otherwise linked to Wikipedia and other sites.

I checked the deletion log... there were no codes, the only thing I could make out of it was "and the only contributor was Jazzzzy", which is myself. Do submissions require more than one contibutor? If so, it's unusual as I have seen many with only one contributor. Could someone please give me a reason or code as to why this submission was deleted? I would like to know, as this was my first submission and if I had done something wrong, I'd like to correct it.

Thanks!

Jaz

The log is not very great there, it is because it was about an "unremarkable person", not because you are the only contributor. GDonato (talk) 21:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Also note that IMDB is not considered a WP:RS reliable source, as things get added to it all the time with little or no confirmation. -- Kesh 21:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Kesh: Thanks for your reply. IMDB may have been that way in the beginning, however I find them very stringent today regarding submission. Everyone that I've made has had to have verification. Also, other links were made to sources here at Wiki.

The page was tagged as not asserting notability, but I think adequate assertion was made. You should take this to WP:DRV to get the deletion reviewed.-gadfium 21:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

gadfium, Thanks for your direction and the link! Jaz

IMDB is really not much better today. Supposedly "official" release dates, even projects that have been "announced" only to find out it only exists in a PR department's ads... all they do is report that someone has made a statement. They don't find out if the film is actually in production, just that somebody somewhere said they wanted to make it. Actor's profiles get padded. It's just not reliable. -- Kesh 22:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Last thought on this... I'm wondering, if IMDB is that unreliable, why does Wiki allow thousands of links to it? -Jaz

For the same reason blogs, forum posts and other unreliable links are 'allowed' on Wikipedia: an editor who is aware the link is unreliable hasn't noticed it yet and removed it. The site isn't blacklisted or anything, so we can't prevent it from being used. But, like YouTube, it's not reliable, so many editors will delete the links on sight unless a very good reason can be made for including it. -- Kesh 23:56, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Heritage imformaation

My Mother is from a tribe right outside of Missouri, I want to contact my relatives, I belive the tribe is choka —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.226.193.52 (talk • contribs).

Have you tried the Miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here's the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

You could look through Category:Native American tribes by state although that might be a bit tedious. If "right outside of Missouri" means a bordering state, then see Missouri which says: It is bordered by eight states Iowa, Illinois, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas and Nebraska. A search of Wikipedia for: choka finds no results that sound like a Native American tribe; are you sure you have the correct spelling? --Teratornis 02:06, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

How to Redirct a page (or how to correct an error in the page header)

I created an article on composer Maurice Goldman...however, it is displayed as follows: "Maurice goldman," with a lower case g on the subject's last name. I'm certain this happened because I entered the name incorrectly and Wikipedia just repeated my error. My quesion i, how do I correct this? I notice on other pages that were or created with an incorrect case in the letter, that they have been redirected to a page with the proper capitalization. If this is the case, can a Wikipedia editor make the correction, or do I have to do it via a #redirect. I have searched many hours and in vain for a method of doing this. Please advise. Thank you very much.

Mrmrsgwangi 23:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I have moved the page for you to the proper name. Renaming in the way preserves the page's edit history which we need for copyright purposes. The move tab is at the top right of pages near the "history" and "watch" tabs. When you move a page the old page name becomes a redirect to the old page name so the prior name will now take you straight to the proper name.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Table of contents

Is there a code to automatically set up a table of contents in an article please ? thisisace 23:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

__TOC__ --ST47Talk 23:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Worked it out now ! thisisace 23:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

For further reference, see: Help:Section#Table of contents (TOC). --Teratornis 01:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Resolved

Archive of Talk:Catherine Bell

I tried to follow the directions for the "move" procedure for archiving a page found on WP:archive#Move_procedure, but I seem to have erred somewhere. Talk:Catherine Bell is acting as a redirect to Talk:Catherine Bell/Archive 1 even though I thought I deleted the redirect and replaced it with actual text. It does have content, but you have to click on the "redirected from" bit on the top of the page to read it. Could someone fix the problem I caused and tell me how I can avoid this mistake in the future? Thanks! Enuja 23:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

It appears to be working fine for me. You may have to bypass your browser's cache to see the proper page. This is one reason I dislike move-archives, they cause a lot of confusion. -- Kesh

Errr, it seems to be working fine, now. Maybe I will stick to copy&paste archives in the future. Enuja 00:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Please do. Having the talk page history spread throughout a number of archives isn't a feature, it's a bug, in my opinion. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 02:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

DO you think that the Template:Global Flood, should be deleted?

I just want to say that whould that particular template be deleted. It contains information from another point of view that is about the Global Flood in the bible_____User:Virtue account

You can explain your view at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Global Flood. Prodego ^talk 01:20, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Screen shots of wikipedia

To whom it may concern,

I wish to use screen shots of Wikipedia articles and the Wikipedia main page, this includes the Wikipedia logo for a educational video for You Tube. Can I? I will site all sources.

Thank you,

-- (Cocoaguy ここがいい _contribs^talk) 01:25, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I would suggest that you contact the encyclopedia more directly, by clicking here, and request permission. --Haemo 01:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

If you are making instructional videos that would be useful for Wikipedia users, please add a mention of them in Wikipedia:Instructional material. --Teratornis 01:52, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

e-mailing articles

is it possoble to e-mail an article right from the article itself -- is there a link for doing this?

I don't think its possible to e-mail an article directly from Wikipedia. What you can do is copy and paste the contents of an article to your e-mail account and send it from there. --_Hdt83 ^Chat 05:18, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Or even better, send a link to the article in the email instead. --antilived^{T | C | G} 09:24, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk pages

Perhaps I'm having a mental lapse, because it's been a while since I've used Wikipedia, but weren't the 'talk' pages originally called 'discussion' pages?

Possibly. The notation is fairly variable. Technically they probably should be called "discussion" pages, but "talk" is easier to type, and they are located in the Talk: namespace. There has, in fact, been some discussion on the village pump's proposals section about renaming the tabs, which still say "discussion". Confusing Manifestation 07:09, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

This is an example of what I call "synonym disease" in MediaWiki. I consider it an ergonomic flaw in a user interface, because using more than one word to mean exactly the same thing creates an extra learning burden for the new user. Namely, the new user must learn that there are two different words which have the same meaning in the system, and this is not something the new user can safely assume. Usually when the user sees an unfamiliar word, it probably ties into another unfamiliar concept. Synonym disease therefore creates potential red herrings to mislead the user and overwhelm his or her scarce short term memory. An ergonomically superior system unfailingly maintains a one-to-one correspondence between names and things, avoiding instances of both synonym disease and the opposite problem, overloading (using the same word to refer to more than one distinct thing). (Initially I thought "page" and "article" were also synonyms, but later I learned they are not.) The above ideas are not original with me, but I don't have any sources to cite for them off the top of my head. So, in the absence of sources, I present these ideas as merely my opinions. "But of course they are correct," he muttered quietly. --Teratornis 15:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

It's odd, because now they say "discussion" once again. I don't know if an administrator was fooling around with the format, but for a short stint, the pages all said "talk." And yes, that was here in standard Wikipedia, I'm not confusing it for the Simple English version.

Images move depending on page size.

If the window on a persons computer is small, it alters the whole layout of the page I created. I would like the words and pictures to be just where Iput them regardless of how big a persons window is.How can i do this?

Lucysbar 07:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC) Lucysbar

Are you doing this in HTML? If you are you should bear in mind that it is a bad idea to have a fixed sized layout on a website. It's much better to make an "elastic" layout where it will adapt from a reasonably low resolution (800×600 or below) to much higher by using percentages and min-width and max-width properties in CSS. If you still decide to make everything fixed, you can set width and height of a specific element by using CSS. Also, this question belongs to the Computing Reference Desk. --antilived^{T | C | G} 09:23, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

what?

Where can I buy the third season of South Park?Thanks.Peter French

Please ask at the reference desk. The Evil Spartan 15:27, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Or just Google:South Park third season and give the Reference desk folks a rest. --Teratornis 15:43, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

$$$??

HOW MUCH DO I NEED TO PAY TO USE WIKIPEDIA? THANKS, JOE STAMPSEN JR.

You do not need to pay any money to use Wikipedia. Wikipedia is completely free to use and edit. You don't even need to pay to create an account. For more information please see Wikipedia:About or our FAQ. Raven4x4x 08:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia does however rely on donations to keep running so if you wish you might like to consider making a donation. Thanks. Will (aka Wimt) 09:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

You do, however, have to make an effort to learn how to use Wikipedia, and the primary way you do this is by reading the friendly manuals. If you value your time, this effort is not "free," and if you are like most people, reading manuals does not powerfully stimulate the pleasure center in your brain. Fortunately, if you only want to read Wikipedia, the number of manual pages to read is not too large. However, if you also want to edit articles in a substantial way, and have some success at it, you will have to read a frightening amount. In addition to the manuals, there is some Instructional material you may find helpful, including some training videos. --Teratornis 15:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Template to request a better photo

I've found templates to request a photo that is in better focus, or better exposed, but isn't there one just to request a better photo? Like one that actually shows the subject of the article? (I was looking at this article in particular.) I know this is often simply requested on the article's talk page, but I think a template is more likely to get noticed.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:46, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

{{Reqphoto}} lists several related templates, but I don't see one that looks like a request for a better photo. Template talk:Reqphoto#Image change? mentions a template on the Danish Wikipedia which does appear to request a better photo. You might repeat your question on Template talk:Reqphoto. If the template you seek already exists, it should appear in the list of templates in the documentation section of {{Reqphoto}}; if the template does not exist, someone should create one, or add an option to {{Reqphoto}} to request a better photo. --Teratornis 15:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm Danish. The Danish Wikipedia uses the same template for requesting a picture or a better picture. http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skabelon:Billedesavnes says:

Denne artikel kan blive bedre, hvis der indsættes et (bedre) billede.

The direct translation is:

This article could become better if there is inserted a (better) picture.

"(better)" is written with the parentheses and is not optional. PrimeHunter 20:52, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

You can use the "of" parameter to clarify what you want, for example use {{Reqphoto}} with {{Reqphoto|of=the Bluesmobile with good view of the car}}. It doesn't have to replace the existing photo in Bluesmobile. The article could have two photos. PrimeHunter 15:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

leaning of pisa tower

what is the solution to retain its stability —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.94.109.46 (talk • contribs) 09:50, 13 July 2007.

The Wikipedia article about the tower has some information about that. Put "Leaning Tower of Pisa" into the search box and see what happens. The search box is in the left hand column at the top of any wikipedia page. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 10:34, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Notable deaths

Where do i find the section where people have died (notable deaths)?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.189.209.128 (talk • contribs)

I don't understand your question. Everybody dies. It's not notable.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you're looking for Deaths in 2007, which lists recent notable deaths? --Maelwys 12:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Good call Maelwys. Of course the Darwin Awards are also notable deaths.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:00, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't Wikipedia have catagory pages for people who died at certain ages or in certain circumstances? I recall pages like 'Entertainers who died in their 20s' and 'People killed in road accidents.' I found these pages fascinating, whatever happened to them? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.149.195.135 (talk)

Maybe Category:Death and Lists of people by cause of death is of interest. PrimeHunter 18:46, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Personalized mainpage

Is there a way to make wikipedia open to a particular page or portal when you login? Like, if you're a history buff, it could always open to the history portal . . .

Create a Favorite (Bookmark in Firefox) linking to http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Portal:History . If you want to go somewhere else on login, you can change the end of the URL to point somewhere else, eg: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Wikipedia:Help_Desk . Just remember to replace any spaces with underscores ( _ ) :) -- Stwalkerster talk 13:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, forgot to mention: Click the favourite to login, and it will automatically redirect you to Portal:History after you login successfully. :) -- Stwalkerster talk 13:24, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

International Marketing

Dear Sir/Madam,

I want to do PG course / Diploma Cerificate course in "INTERNATIONAL MARKETING" through correspondence.

Please advise me where can I do the above course in India.

Dinesh

Try a Google Search for that. Sorry, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a place you can do things like that. :) -- Stwalkerster talk 13:45, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I corrected your Google Search interwiki link. The correct prefix is Google:, and   is necessary instead of a space character between search terms, due a bug in how MediaWiki formats URLs for interwiki links to sites that are not actually wikis. (I'm not sure whether this space character problem qualifies as a "bug" because it is more like a deliberate misuse of the interwiki linking feature.) The questioner should also see List of basic marketing topics. --Teratornis 14:44, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

References there but not linked in text

What do I mark an article as ({{unreferenced}}?) when the references section does list references, but the text itself is missing in-line footnote style links to the references? In particular, I'm referring to Henry VIII of England. Thanks in advance. -- Sdornan 13:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I put {{Citations missing|date=July 2007}} at the top of the page. Is that correct? -- Sdornan 13:43, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

It'll do. It's in the right area, so if it is slightly wrong, someone will change it, or deal with it anyway :) -- Stwalkerster talk 13:46, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Discussion pages

I've just opened a discussion page for a particular article. In it, I ask for some clarification on references cited.

What happens now? Will the author of the article respond, or what? And how long is any response likely to take?

Sorry to be so ignorant, but I do need to know.

Iain07 14:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

It depends on when someone stumbles across your message. It could be a few hours or a few months. Incidentally, though, you placed your comment on the wrong page. I moved it. You wanted Talk:Thomas Sayers, not Talk:Thomas Sayers/Comments. The Evil Spartan 15:12, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Articles usually have many contributers. You can see them and their edits by clicking "history" at the top of the article. You can contact them directly by clicking "Talk" next to their name in the history, and then click "leave a comment" to start a new section on their talk page. Thomas Sayers has dead links to http://www.tales.ndirect.co.uk/TOM2.HTML. The Internet Archive#Wayback Machine shows former content of that URL at http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.tales.ndirect.co.uk/TOM2.HTML. PrimeHunter 15:26, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Sign-in details are not working!

I have tried to sign in several times, using an emailed temporary password. This was a month ago, when I got the message that too many attempts were made in a 24 hours period. I just tried again to get a temporary password sent, and got the '24' message again! 81.111.110.50 14:52, 13 July 2007 (UTC).

Wait 24 hours, then request a new password. Then try logging in again. Don't try to login until 24 hours are up though. If it still doesn't work, post another message here. :) -- Stwalkerster talk 15:36, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Technological Company Stubs

{{helpme}}

I was attempting to create a new Tech Company Stub in http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Category:Technological_company_stubs&from=C by editing the page brought up by clicking on the {{tech-company-stub}} link on the page. However, I seem to have successfully edited the generic template and not saved as a company page.

How do I undo the damage I apparently caused to the template page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Tech-company-stub ?

Then the next question would be that once I get the page appropriately created such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chassis-Plans then how do I add that to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Technological_company_stubs?

Thanks, David

Hi David. I've slightly altered your comment(just added markup) to remove this page from the tech company stubs, I hope this isn't a problem. To add your own page Chassis-Plans to the Technological company stubs simply add the {{tech-company-stub}} to the page.

As for the template, you have created a talk page for it. I'd just suggest going back to the template talk page and blanking it (just edit, select all, delete, and save) since you are the only editor to have touched it. Camann•TALK 16:21, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Also, the {{helpme}} tag is for use on your user talk page, just for future reference. Camann•TALK 16:25, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

The Spill Canvas

Hello. I am writring from Warner Brothers Records. You have spelled a Spill Canvas member's name as "Landen" when, in fact, it is spelled "Landon." Thank you.

Danielle Katz Danielle.Katz@wbr.com

It's fixed now. This is Wikipedia, just as you used this page to leave a message, you could have edited the The Spill Canvas page yourself instead of waiting for someone here to see and fix it. Camann•TALK 16:09, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

no info on 163 and qian zhijun

why wikipedia no info on 163, is very big website in china, and qian zhijun, his photos everywhere in china. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chinese EdiTor (talk • contribs).

Wikipedia hates the Chinese. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.189.65.174 (talk)

There has been an article at Qian Zhijun (logs) and large discussions and controversy about it as [25] shows. One of the arguments to delete the article was to avoid further embarassement of this innocent kid who hasn't done anything. There is a short mention without name at Little fatty. PrimeHunter 17:45, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it is fair to say "Wikipedia hates the Chinese" (even though I would enjoy hearing someone say, "Mr. Wales, tear down this wall!" no matter how lacking in basis the rallying cry would be, or perhaps because of that). Wikipedia might lose the battle against vandalism if it allows editing via open proxies (a battle Wikipedia could still lose anyway, as the vandalism arms race continues with unpredictable outcome), and a heavily-vandalized Wikipedia wouldn't be useful to anyone, Chinese or otherwise. Besides, as the United States learned by invading and occupying Iraq, even toppling a seemingly unpopular dictator does not automatically make people like you. Perhaps the ensuing chaos in Iraq suggests Saddam Hussein was not as far out of line with the values of his people as we were led to believe, and perhaps the Chinese government similarly enjoys more support among at least a powerful subset of its subjects than its detractors maintain. I think Wikipedia is doing plenty to pressure governments everywhere to loosen restrictions on the free flow of information, simply by being a popular Web site that does not suck. Wikipedia continues to become more useful, and hence valuable, year by year, and this has the effect of penalizing any government foolish enough to block Wikipedia. Truth has an inherent advantage over untruth in that truth is more likely to work (as Robert Ringer wrote, "If you ignore reality, it automatically works against you."). How far behind does the Chinese government want to fall in competition for the global market? When the competitors of Chinese businesses are getting better answers faster and cheaper than Chinese companies can get them, powerful Chinese business interests may start to complain, and few governments ignore their billionaires (those that try to, such as the Khmer Rouge, tend not to last long). Also, Wikipedia's popularity and visibility are driving the adoption of corporate wikis which could really disturb the status quo. The Chinese government will certainly have its work cut out if it wants the benefits of modern information technology while maintaining the censorship facilitated by older forms of information such as paper publishing and broadcast television in which a relatively small number of organizations controlled what everybody got to read or view. I read somewhere a speculation that Communism tends to fall in any modernizing nation shortly after the number of telephones per 1000 people reaches some threshold value, beyond which centralized control over information becomes untenable. Wikis might function like super-powerful telephones in this respect. --Teratornis 21:37, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

yes, in 2003, qian zhijun not happy that every people take his photos, but now, its ok with him. i think he will happy if wikipedia have info on him. and 163, very big website in china, only baidu tencent and sina more big, why wikipedia no info on 163. teratornis, i dont understand you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chinese EdiTor (talk • contribs).

There has been a stub about 163.com since March 2005. Apart from 5 pages on the site itself, it is the first Google hit on 163.com for me (but possibly not in China where Google results may be censored). It was decided to keep the article in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/163.com. Anybody with Wikipedia access (for example you) can edit the article. Unfortunately that excludes a lot of Chinese people due to Chinese censorship. PrimeHunter 03:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Template formatting

I need help formatting Template:Ivy League MLB All-Stars. I just need some thing like a "•" or a "|" that can break the six template areas for spacing.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 16:52, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Done. I hope that it is OK. I have split it all up onto different rows, and the || means a new column (It is the same as a | on a new line). If it is not OK, come back here for more help. I have included the template as a link below:
{{Ivy League MLB All-Stars}}
 :) -- Stwalkerster talk 19:34, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

doubts

           i am bio-techee.. is there any chance of downloading ebooks through this site

reguarding subject?

There are no e-books available here. You can see our article on biotechnology at that link. Dismas|^(talk) 19:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

You might also want to try our sister project WikiBooks. - Zeibura ^(Talk) 19:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Theo Geisel

Theo Geisel (Dr. Seuss) should have a link to a new page for Theo Geisel, Director, Max-Planck-Institute for Dynamics and Self-Organization and Professor of Theoretical Physics, University of Göttingen. http://www.chaos.gwdg.de/theo/

This is my first time contributing to Wikipedia and I am not sure how to make the necessary changes.

LewM 19:34, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi! You might like to take a look at the Tutorial to get started. Links can be make by typing [[Article]], replacing Article with the article you wish to link to. If you create a link to an article that does not yet exist, it will appear red, like this. If the article on the other end exists, it will appear like this. I hope this helps. You can play around in the sandbox to try out stuff. I hope this helps. :) -- Stwalkerster talk 20:01, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually the situation here is that Theo Geisel currently exists as a redirect to Dr. Seuss, and LewM appears to be asking how to make Theo Geisel into a page about the Theo Geisel who is the director of the Max Planck Institute for Dynamics and Self-Organization and Professor of Theoretical Physics at the University of Göttingen. It sounds as if we need to turn Theo Geisel from a redirect into a disambiguation page, and that's a bit much for a first-time Wikipedia contributor to tackle unaided, I should think. --Teratornis 22:30, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Delete

How do you delete pages that you have created?

Insert {{db-g7}} at the top of the page. - Zeibura ^(Talk) 19:56, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Reply: That dosen't work.

It did work. What you did was added a tag for it to be deleted by an Administrator, as normal users like you and me can't delete things. This is because one needs to gain the communities' trust before being allowed to delete things. If you wait for an administrator to come along, it will be deleted (it shouldn't be long...) :) -- Stwalkerster talk 20:06, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Voila! Deletion Log entry:
20:11, 13 July 2007 Gadfium (Talk | contribs) deleted "Artmonk" (content was: '{{db-g7}}' (and the only contributor was 'Danny999911'))

Page was deleted

I created a page and yes it took me HOURS to do. I know these pages aren't for promotion which is why no specials were included and there were only links to exterior web sights for specials. Basically the page was a description of the bar with some pictures and the logos. The reason for deletion was this:

"Lucy's Retired Surfer's Bar" (g11 advertising content was: '{{AfDM|page=Lucy's Retired Surfer's Bar|date=2007 July 13|...

What does this mean?

Also the previous page, (which linked to this) entitled "Marshall Street" was shortened dramatically. And doing this not only disables a person to get to this link, but many other business's links as well. Why was this shortened? It says "list of local businesses long." (or something like that) I did add a few more establishments, but it wasn't that much longer to begin with and some of the information was incorrect and out-dated. That page was like that for months and no one had a problem with it. But as soon as I made some changes that needed to be made, it's now "too long." Well before it was "innaccurate." Which is worse? I undid this because the information I supplied was accurate and informative. I've lived near the area for 34 years and know this to be true.

Lucysbar 20:58, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lucy's Retired Surfer's Bar - multiple editors felt that the article was blatant advertising, and on viewing the deleted page (as an administrator, I can do that) I'm inclined to agree that the article promoted the establishment. The debate was closed early because it was evident that the page was eligible for speedy deletion. Nihiltres^(t.l) 21:06, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

And the list won't have been alright before you changed it, it's just that the right people hadn't noticed until you changed it :-P Skittle 21:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Somebody, not me, requested that I should be sent a new password. What is going on?

Hi!

In mail from Wikipedia (wiki@wikimedia.org) there was the following:

Someone (probably you, from IP address 200.121.200.197) requested that we send you a new Wikipedia login password for en.wikipedia.org.

Now, this is not my IP-number.

I did a quick whois on cygwin and got the following output (copied from screen):

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

/cygdrive/c/cygwin/home$ whois 200.121.200.11

% Joint Whois - whois.lacnic.net

% This server accepts single ASN, IPv4 or IPv6 queries

% Copyright LACNIC lacnic.net

% The data below is provided for information purposes

% and to assist persons in obtaining information about or

% related to AS and IP numbers registrations

% By submitting a whois query, you agree to use this data

% only for lawful purposes.

% 2007-07-13 15:44:04 (BRT -03:00)

inetnum: 200.121.200.0/25

status: reallocated

owner: PE-TDPERX3-LACNIC

ownerid: PE-PETD9-LACNIC

responsible: Telefonica del Peru

address: Av. San Felipe 1144 Surquillo, 1144, edi A

address: 34 - Lima -

country: PE

phone: +51 1 210-6771 []

owner-c: GRT2

tech-c: GRT2

created: 20040924

changed: 20040924

inetnum-up: 200.121.192/19

inetnum-up: 200.121.128/17

nic-hdl: GRT2

person: Gestion Dir. IP Telefónica del Perú

e-mail: gestionip@TELEFONICA.NET.PE

address: Calle San Felipe 1144, 1144,

address: LI34 - Lima - LI

country: PE

phone: +51 1 2106771 []

created: 20021204

changed: 20030923

% whois.lacnic.net accepts only direct match queries.

% Types of queries are: POCs, ownerid, CIDR blocks, IP

% and AS numbers.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Can anyone tell me what is going on, please? This does seem scary.

All the best Io 21:30, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

You already understand what's happened. Indeed, someone who is not you has requested a change on your password. And you, and not they, have received that email. I forget the current content of the email you received, but I'm sure it says something like "if it wasn't you, don't worry, nothing will happen". As it wasn't you, don't worry, nothing will happen. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 21:33, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

(ec) That's happened to me a couple times, too. Don't worry about it; anyone can send any user a new password by simply entering a username in the box at Special:Userlogin, then clicking "Email new password". — Malcolm ^talk 21:34, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

(ec) True. If you ever do forget your password, you can request a new one, but the one you'll receive will just be temporary. If you don't use it, and continue to log on with your existing one, the "new" password will expire after a few days. (That means that you don't need to worry about the chances of someone guessing a possible password for you just because you have 500 working passwords instead of one!) If you log on with the new one (and only you can do that, as Wikipedia only send it to the email address that is already registered in the name of the user that the password requester claims to be), you'll be told to choose a new password before you resume editing. In other words, the one sent by email is not a permanent one. It seems scary, but it really isn't. ElinorD (talk) 21:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks guys and girl! :-)

Actually I did change my password, just in case, but I have never forgotten a password. (But has any of you experienced that you can't write your password down on paper, only type it - it's in the fingers somehow?) I hope I'm not betraying any secrets of the trade, but my method is to take a random line of poetry, pick out the initial letters and then substitute upper-case letters, numerals or other symbols, where appropriate. My password at my second last place of emloyment got the verdict unbreakable. (They ran checks every now and then.) But thanks all and cheers Io 22:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Someone's plea

please can you tell me about may mother he have a metastasis hepar .can you tell me somethong becouse her body was be yellow color please tell me somethink bay she live or not—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.80.161.154 (talk • contribs).

Added the heading - we got into an edit conflict. Cheers Io 22:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. :) -- Stwalkerster talk 22:11, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Just to make it clear, the original question was not mine. I just added a header. :-) Cheers Io 22:43, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Not trying to be mean or anything but you should also see the medical disclaimer. We do not give medical advice. Sorry. --_Hdt83 ^Chat 04:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

July 14

Question

I am a registered member of Wikipedia, However I have forgotten my password and got a new one mailed to me but it isnt working what do I do next?63.215.26.215 01:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

If the email hasn't come yet, try sending another one. If that doesn't work, then, I guess you will just have to register a new account. Sebi _[talk] 08:12, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

silver quaters

what is a 1960 silver quater worth 01:04, 14 July 2007 (UTC)01:04, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

E-bay puts them at about a buck a piece, less if you're buying bulk ([26] [27] [28] [29]). --Ybbor^Talk 02:42, 14 July 2007

(UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Kevinwong913 ^{Speak out loud!} 18:51, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

how do i write an artical?

how do i write an artical?

To write an article first search for it using the search box. If it exists, start from there, if it dosen't, click the create this page link and start editing. If you do create a new article, make sure the subject meets notability guidelines and is well sourced. --_Hdt83 ^Chat 04:33, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

You'll also find Wikipedia:Your first article useful. Harryboyles 04:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

See also Help:Starting a new page :) Peacent 14:20, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Australasia or Oceania

While browsing Legal drinking age I noticed a category for part of the world entitled "Australasia (formerly Oceania)". Does Wpedia have a policy on naming the region consisting of Australia, NZ and the Pacific islands? Mhicaoidh 06:27, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

This gets discussed at Talk:Oceania. I think most people see a difference between Australasia and Oceania, although both are rather fuzzy terms.-gadfium 08:57, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Written permission

If a website requests "written permission" to use their material, does that mean I have to write a handwritten letter to them for a request or would an e-mail suffice? NorthernThunder 07:17, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

See: Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission which does seem to say an e-mail response would suffice, but according to that document we need permission from the copyright holder to publish under the GFDL or similar license which allows unlimited copying by others. --Teratornis 10:41, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppetry

A new user with no previous edit history had placed a deletion tag in the article Prashant Tamang (the article had been featured in DYK part of Main Page). Can this be a case of sock puppetry? Thank you.--Eukesh 10:28, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Seem like a new editor acting in good faith. In any case, it's best not to make assumptions, please try discussing the issue with them. Peacent 14:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Project reports in marketing

I am looking for project report (copies) in marketing for my MBA course.

Please can you help me out in getting it

This question is too vague for me to understand. It sounds like a homework question. On the Help desk, we answer questions about using Wikipedia. Marketing is a very broad field. If you could be more specific about the course you are taking, someone might be able to guess what sort of project report you mean, and tell you whether Wikipedia has any articles that might help you. --Teratornis 17:19, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I created my first entry but...

when I go there the text shows up as a single, long horizontal line.

The entry is "Fred Weintraub"

(It also shows his last name as weintraub, not Weintraub)

Where did I go wrong?

Thanks, StanFlouride 14:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I've corrected the name, I don't see any problem with the text. --ST47Talk 14:41, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

The problem was that a line in Fred Weintraub started with a space. This causes special formatting. It was fixed a few minutes before ST47 got there. PrimeHunter 15:57, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

User contributions disappearing

I've noticed that if someone edits an article that is subsequently deleted, all records of their edits disappear from their list of user contributions. Is that desirable or necessary? (Why not just turn all the diffs red or something?) What is to stop an admin PRODding an article and then deleting it themselves five days later? In fact what is to stop them just saying that they PRODded it, since there remains no record (AFAICS) of their edits?--Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:42, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Admins recently gained the ability to review a user's deleted contributions, and it was always possible for an admin to review the history and content of a deleted article. --ST47Talk 14:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

baggage

Is there any storage facilities, lockers, or anywhere to leave luggage at the airport for a few days? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.156.131.32 (talk)

You can probably phone the airport to find out. Sancho 16:40, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

This is the help desk for the encyclopedia Wikipedia. We are not associated with any airline or airport. PrimeHunter 17:03, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Sources

In the article Dunewood All the data was observed by me. How do I cite that? Thedjatclubrock :) (talk) 17:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

You can't. All material on Wikipedia has to conform to the no original research policy, which basically says that everything that is published here must have been published somewhere else before it is published on Wikipedia. Bjelleklang - talk Bug Me 17:55, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Same question

Where do i go to request two articles' histories to be merged as one was altered and then redirected to the other instead of a simple page move...? Simply south 18:21, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

WP:SPLICE.--Fuhghettaboutit 18:25, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

How do you flatten categories?

Is there an easy way to flatten categories? I'd like to have people from a city listed automatically in the people from the county category. Berkeley is in Alameda County. Everyone in Berkeley should automatically be listed in the from Alameda County category because Berkeley is in Alameda County. People shouldn't have to double tag articles. I tried looking this question up in the about wikipedia section but it seemed it couldn't be done or I couldn't figure it out. Please post an example or the code I would need to input to flatten categories. Thanks!

Not quite what you're asking for, but you can run queries to get a list of articles in a category and its subcategories. See m:User:Duesentrieb/CatScan.-gadfium 20:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

About a month ago, I wrote a basic class (in Java) that does this; see flatCat.java. Gracenotes^T § 20:56, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

World Trade Organization

What did the WTO Uruguay Round of 1994 accomplish?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.5.43 (talk • contribs)

Have you tried the Miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here's the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 19:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Greatest baseball play

–What is considered the Greatest Play ever made in baseball?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.15.57 (talk • contribs)

Have you tried the Miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here's the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 19:52, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Correcting Title

I've created a page, and inadvertantly used a lower case in the title unstead of an uppper. I've checked the help pages, but can't find anything on correcting a title... all I need to do is change one letter from lower to upper case, can you help me?

Thanks, Jazzzzy

It must be moved to the correct title. New/Unregistered users can't do this, but if you post the article title here and what you want it to be, I'm sure someone will do it for you.—WAvegetarian (talk) 20:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Jazzzzy

Editing Wikipedia

I am new to wikipedia and i joined today. I edited girls aloud and spice girls and mcfly pages. I added some external links to spice girls page for example and they werent to my sites they were to a forum about spice girls and to their myspace and they were deleted as spam?? why? I also added lyrics to a new girls aloud song page and they were deleted. I was wondering why if i am allowed to edit then when i do why does the changes get removed. The main problem is that you assumed i was spamming when i wasnt —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cjbiom (talk • contribs).

Wikipedia has many policies and guidelines. It can take some time to learn them and you will always risk being reverted by other editors. Others may for example have considered your edits to be against Wikipedia:External links, Wikipedia:Reliable sources, Wikipedia:Lyrics and poetry. Some editors use the word "spam" about many forms of inappropriate content no matter what was the intention behind adding it. PrimeHunter 22:38, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Adding Links

If a page is about a specific artist can you add links to the external links part at the bottom to sites that are about them without them then being deleted?