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Twenty20 Cup 2007

I would just like to say thanks to all the users who helped in editing and regularly updating the twenty20 cup 2007 page. All we have to do is the finals day!

Featured Article in French (let's hope)

I request some help in order to, maybe, have the first Featured Article on cricket on the French Wikipedia : fr:équipe d'Australie de cricket (Australia national cricket team), before doing the same work for the other test teams. I don't ask you to read the article (or if any of you speak French, he can of course !), but I'd like to ask some advice : do you think that the structure seems good ? I just have to finish some parts of the historical aspects (1950-75 and 1987-1999). I've made it as follows (I give you some key words if necessary) :

• 1/ Historical aspects, divided in :
  • Aboriginal tour and first tests (1868-1880)
  • Birth of the Ashes and English domination (1881-1896)
  • Facing England again and again, but not only (1897-1914) -> first series win, triangular tourmament, etc...
  • Between wars (1920-1938) -> 1920-21, 1930 tour, Bodyline, etc...
  • Invincibility and "Invincibles" (1946-1949) -> the Invincibles
  • (Here I don't know what to choose as a title : High and low ?) (1950-1975)
  • Dark years and rebel teams (1976-1987) -> World Series Cricket, Underarm delivery incident, Defeats from 1984 to 1987, Rebel tour of South Africa
  • Rise to World domination (1987-1999) -> Two first World Cup win, 1995 tour of West Indies,...
  • World domination (2000-2007)
• 2/ Shirt and symbols -> history of coloured shirts, Baggy green
• 3/ Main stadiums
• 4/ Players
  • Eligibility
  • Current team -> contracted players
  • Best players -> players of the Australian Cricket Hall of Fame, and I've added Steve Waugh, Warne, McGrath, Ponting, Gilchrist, which are not (yet) in the Hall of Fame... Should I had Bevan, Mark Waugh, Healy, Don Tallon among the "legend" players for their records/performances ? Anybody else ?
  • Coaches (from Simpson to Nielsen)
• 5/ Statistics
• 6/ Social and economical aspects
  • Media -> first radio broadcast, "synthetic cricket", first television broadcast, contract with Channel Nine, Internet broadcast
  • Popularity of players -> Songs, movies, "Australians of the Year", ...
  • Attendances in stadium
  • Contracter players' wages

I think I've not forgotten any of the main event of the history (apart from those that I've not yet written, such as the first tied test, the tied World Cup semi-final, the Ball of the Century, the bookmakers' scandal in 1998).
I thank you a lot if somebody can have a look on this structure... If you have any suggestion, please leave it on my talk page if necessary... Thanks a lot !
-- OrangeKnight 10:11, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

That's a brilliant piece of work, well done. If you want a suggestion the 1950 - 75 section looks like it needs beefing up to me. Nick mallory 10:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks... I need indeed to develop the 1950-75 section... Would you have an suggestion for the title of this one ? OrangeKnight 11:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Well 1949 - 1977 is the period between Bradman and Packer really, two men who had a vast influence on the game. "From Bradman to Packer" perhaps. Nick mallory 10:30, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

OK, that's a good idea ! OrangeKnight 10:49, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Cricket#Requested move

It is that time again... Gizza^{Discuss ©} 08:54, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Hook Shot

In reading an article (circa 1950) about Denis Compton by Jim Swanton, Swanton mentions how Compton is the master of all strokes. Interestingly, Swanton feels the need to explain what a hook shot is but not any other stroke. Does this mean that the hook shot is a relatively new innovation (surely doubtful) or is it a new name for an old stroke? Or was Swanton an old duffere even then? --Roisterer 03:19, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Well it was definitely known during Bodyline. Stan McCabe famously repelled Bodyline with his fearless hooking. No I didn't write that int he article! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

That's what I figured. I just don't understand why Swanton, who was writing to a cricket audience and refers to a number strokes (sweep, drive etc.) without the need to explain what they were, decided he needed to explain what a hook shot was. --Roisterer 04:03, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Could he have been making a distinction between the hook and the pull? Even now shots that are pulls rather than hooks are sometimnes incorrectly called hooks. Or maybe he had been asked to write an article of so many words about Compton, had found he had come up a couple of hundred words short, and so had inserted an explanation of the hook! JH (talk page) 09:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Lots of {{PD-old}} images here

http://www.leski.com.au/catalogues/a301/TCRI.php —Moondyne 07:25, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:CRIC style help

When referring to international/county teams we refer to England/Somerset. What would happen in cases such as "Andrew Flintoff went on the England A tour of Bangladesh." Do we link to Bangladesh cricket team, which has more relevance, or the more accurate Bangladesh.

I usually use the former, linking to the team, if this is correct can it be added to the style guide? –MDCollins (talk) 11:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

I think the latter should be used. After all, in the sentence above, Flintoff toured Bangladesh, not the Bangladesh cricket team. Of course, the link should be Bangladesh national cricket team, to avoid redirects! Andrew nixon 12:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

But in that instance, there'd be no point in linking to the country as it has little/no context (do they go sight-seeing?), and would involve linking twice (once for the country and once for the team). It would also mean duplicating the word twice

• "Andrew Flintoff went on the England A tour of Bangladesh. In the first Test against Bangladesh he scored 12 and took 3 wickets."

Instead of, perhaps

• "Andrew Flintoff went on the England A tour of Bangladesh. In the first Test he scored 12 and took 3 wickets."

or

• "Andrew Flintoff went on the England A tour of Bangladesh. In the first Test against Bangladesh he scored 12 and took 3 wickets."

Another option would be to link to the tour article:

• "Andrew Flintoff went on the England A tour of Bangladesh"

Just trying to be concise, yet still link to the most relevant article. –MDCollins (talk) 13:16, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

This information should be added somewhere

This is an interesting article here on cricinfo but Wikipedia could not help me when I wanted to find background information on the series and this occurence in particular. Perhaps someone can write about the events of this article here. 58.178.148.161 08:32, 8 August 2007 (UTC)