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Hi! I'm not involved in this dispute at all, and just noticed your recent edit while I was patrolling recent changes. I want to affirm, as a disinvolved stranger, that the tone of your comment isn't really the way we make our arguments at Wikipedia. Instead of arguing from emotion, here, we argue from policy- the best way for you to make your point is to make is simply and calmly, without emotion or nationalism, and then back it up with stronger [[WP:RS|sources]] than those who disagree with you are using. -[[User:FisherQueen|FisherQueen]] ([[User talk:FisherQueen|Talk]]) 20:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I'm not involved in this dispute at all, and just noticed your recent edit while I was patrolling recent changes. I want to affirm, as a disinvolved stranger, that the tone of your comment isn't really the way we make our arguments at Wikipedia. Instead of arguing from emotion, here, we argue from policy- the best way for you to make your point is to make is simply and calmly, without emotion or nationalism, and then back it up with stronger [[WP:RS|sources]] than those who disagree with you are using. -[[User:FisherQueen|FisherQueen]] ([[User talk:FisherQueen|Talk]]) 20:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

::: Everyone is against our country. I try to insert "British" into the article of a British person, I get reverted and then if I respond I get warned for "edit warring" and told to go to talk. When I go to talk I have my comments removed and get accused of trollying (whatever that is) by those who hate our country. All is lost. Name: [[User:England's Rose|England's Rose]] 20:12, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

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Welcome!

Hello, England's Rose, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Alex Salmond

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Alex Salmond. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. --John 16:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

Hi, there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot 16:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No personal attacks please

Regarding this edit, please see our policy on personal attacks. Please stay cool and focus on edits rather than the editors who make them. Thank you. --John 16:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I've done so many wrong things. But thanks for telling me. Sign your username: England's Rose 16:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a problem, many new editors make mistakes when they start. I am here to help you and reading some of the links in my welcome message at the top will help you to edit better in the future. Best wishes, --John 16:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A little advice...

Hello there England's Rose,

Just a note that I do agree with much of your ideology and cultural stance, but, do please spend a little time familliarising yourself with a few of the core guidelines of Wikipedia, as it would be a shame to loose you as a contributor on the grounds you broke them. Try to stay diplomatic, involve the editting community and stay polite and civil, no matter how strongly you feel about various issues!

If you would like any advice on editting, obtaining consensus, keeping to a neutral point of view or providing references or citation, feel free to contact me at any time at my talk page - I'd be more than happy to support you smoothly into what can be a tight community! Best of luck in the meantime, and again, welcome! Jza84 20:10, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I read the these but don't know what it is that I'm still doing wrong. John doesn't like me, and he seems to be powerful here. So maybe Wikipedia is not something that wants me. All I'm doing is standing up for our great and ancient nation . Does it not make you sad? — Preceding unsigned comment added by England's Rose (talkcontribs)

I don't know where you get the idea that I don't like you. There is nothing wrong with being bold in your edits, but you must realise that you are changing work that others have produced over a long period. If several people revert you, it is a good sign that you are editing against consensus. Please discuss your proposed changes in talk and there may be a compromise we can reach. I hope this helps. --John 18:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I was just getting that impression, since you have have come to me so often with diplomatically phrased messages of stop. But John, the one with the numbers is not me. I promise. Don't ban me, this is me here, not the numbers man. : England's Rose 19:04, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'm not involved in this dispute at all, and just noticed your recent edit while I was patrolling recent changes. I want to affirm, as a disinvolved stranger, that the tone of your comment isn't really the way we make our arguments at Wikipedia. Instead of arguing from emotion, here, we argue from policy- the best way for you to make your point is to make is simply and calmly, without emotion or nationalism, and then back it up with stronger sources than those who disagree with you are using. -FisherQueen (Talk) 20:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone is against our country. I try to insert "British" into the article of a British person, I get reverted and then if I respond I get warned for "edit warring" and told to go to talk. When I go to talk I have my comments removed and get accused of trollying (whatever that is) by those who hate our country. All is lost. Name: England's Rose 20:12, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]