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::::Thanks, that sounds good. I was thinking this article could be a nice blueprint for the other province articles -- some of which haven't been developed nearly as much. [[User:Brian Pearson|Brian Pearson]] 01:14, 26 August 2007 (UTC) |
::::Thanks, that sounds good. I was thinking this article could be a nice blueprint for the other province articles -- some of which haven't been developed nearly as much. [[User:Brian Pearson|Brian Pearson]] 01:14, 26 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::OK, now I'm confused. My confusion arose when I thought I'd take a stab at a bit of editing, myself. First, there was the second paragraph which didn't exactly match the last one re Economy. Then, after I began looking for what they meant by the word, "silvoagropecuaria", I thought, well I'll go to the Spanish Wikipedia for Chile [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile] and see what they have, only to learn that they have a completely different name for Cautin: "Coihaique" [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coihaique]. [[User:Brian Pearson|Brian Pearson]] 01:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC) |
:::::OK, now I'm confused. My confusion arose when I thought I'd take a stab at a bit of editing, myself. First, there was the second paragraph which didn't exactly match the last one re Economy. Then, after I began looking for what they meant by the word, "silvoagropecuaria", I thought, well I'll go to the Spanish Wikipedia for Chile [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile] and see what they have, only to learn that they have a completely different name for Cautin: "Coihaique" [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coihaique]. [[User:Brian Pearson|Brian Pearson]] 01:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::The corresponding article is [[es:Provincia de Cautín]], I don't understand what you are referring to. [[User:Jespinos|Jespinos]] 16:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Rating in quality scale and importance
Articles related to Chile needs to have a rating on the quality scale and importance. I propose that in this section we should vote for the importance and quality Chile-related articles. Please read the articles before voting and read about the quality scale and importance below in this page.
Quality
Note: This quality scale is identical the one in WikiProject Argentina, if you think this WikiProject Chile could have a better scale please write about it in the discussion page.
Pages progress grading scheme | |
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Template:FA Featured article | Reserved exclusively for articles that have received "Featured article" status after peer review. Articles are placed in Category:FA-Class Chilean articles. |
A | The article provides a well-written and complete description of the topic, as described in How to write a Great Article. It includes a complete article and an appropriate series of headings to break up the article. It should have sufficient external reliable references, and properly illustrated. It should be at the stage where it could at least be considered for featured article status. Articles are placed in Category:A-Class Chilean articles. |
GA | Reserved exclusively for articles that have received Good Article status after peer review. Articles are placed in Category:GA-Class Chilean articles. |
B | The article is "almost there" but it may be missing secondary information and details. Alternatively, the English may need a comprehensive rewrite to make it flow. Articles are placed in Category:B-Class Chilean articles. |
Start | The article has a good amount of content, but it is still weak in certain areas. Articles are placed in Category:Start-Class Chilean articles. |
Stub | The article is either a very short article or a stub that will need a lot of work to bring it to A-Class level, although there may be a significant amount of material in the article. Articles are placed in Category:Stub-Class Chilean articles. |
Needed | The article does not exist and needs to be created. Articles are listed in Category:Needed Chilean articles. |
For further details, see Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment.
Importance
Note: This importance scale is identical the one in WikiProject Argentina, if you think this WikiProject Chile could have a better scale please write about it in the discussion page.
There are 4 grades for importance as defined in the WikiProject Chile article's importance. Please note that the importance of an article is independent from its quality.
Pages importance grading scheme | |
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Top {{top-importance}} | Subject is a must-have for a print encyclopedia. Articles are placed in Category:Top-importance Chilean articles. |
High {{high-importance}} | Subject is exceptionally important. Articles are placed in Category:High-importance Chilean articles. |
Mid {{mid-importance}} | Subject contributes a depth of knowledge. Articles are placed in Category:Mid-importance Chilean articles. |
Low {{low-importance}} | Subject fills in important details. Articles are placed in Category:Low-importance Chilean articles. |
I believe we would do it following the instructions indicated here. Please feel free add or change the rating of an article. Voting only in the case of serious discrepancies. Jespinos 02:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Project Move
I think it's time for moving the project to its definitive location. Jespinos 01:42, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Agree Dentren | Talk 05:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Articles rating
How do we add articles to if such page doesn't exist? Any guidelines? Should we move the "Requests" list from the Wikipedia:Chile-related regional notice board to this new category? Can I just go around searching for very small articles and tags them as Chile-stub (or specifics Chile-bio-stub/Chile-geo-stub)? Is this kind of behavior correct? Kilroytech 20:49, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Photos / images submission
I have literally thousands of hi-res (3000x2008) pictures taken by me which I'd gladly upload if anyone requests a copy of one of them for a specific article, as there are so many I'd like to expose the link where I have them posted, feel free to request from amongst them, they are at Flickr. NOTE: Some of them are from other countries where I've been, but those are just a few compared to Chilean ones, most are from either Magallanes or Santiago and its surroundings, including Torres del Paine, Puerto Williams, Antarctica, Punta Arenas, Parral, Rancagua, and many central Andes Mountains such as Pochoco, La Cruz, Manquehue, Provincia and El Morado. Kilroytech 20:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I saw photos for the articles Nevado de Longaví, Laguna del Laja and Sierra Velluda. Have you photos of Cordillera Darwin? Jespinos 23:26, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- I wasn't aware of Sierra Velluda, but you are right. About Cordillera Darwin, I guess I might have some, I'll check. Meanwhile I'll upload the ones you noticed.
Article Tracking
After a while of participating in Wikipedia, I think there are a bunch of tools which may be useful for of Chile Project, mostly bots, but as I'm absolutely clueless about them (which do exist, and where can I add new bots), is that I raise this issue as a public matter of discussion, trying to improve our "performance" ;)
We should have some "article size bot", and "missing articles bot", attached either to categories or to an article list, the first one will tel us which are the least developed articles and the later would give us information about which articles we should create, I think this will really help us. Are bots for this already in Wikipedia? If not, where can I attach a self-made one? Are there any tutorials about it? If not needed, is there any particular Wikipedia function that solves any of these issues?
About categories: can categories be hierarchically related? i.e. parent categories list articles included in child categories. Can one create such a category tree? For example we could create a branch like this: Chile => Magallanes Region => Geography of Magallanes Region, similar examples with, flora & fauna are possible, and other themes like those, this hierarchies could be particularly helpful when finding relates articles while doing the revision process.
I suggest that we should also be very thorough at coordinate templates use, I have an Excel file from NIMA (US National Imagery and Mapping Agency) with all the places they have about Chile, it included both name and coordinates, as well as some other extra information that I've never used. This file was created by me using public data downloadable from NIMA's web site, so I think we could share it to use it as a basis for our work.
- I've created a list which is nearly a comprehensive list of all articles pertaining to chile which may serve this project. see Wikipedia:WikiProject Chile/Article list. I've suggested how the list might be applied, but perhaps other people might have additioal ideas.JAXHERE | Talk 15:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- The bot User:Snowbot can do WikiProject tagging. --GentlemanGhost 13:01, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
town/city naming
I'm not sure if you've all noticed, there's a discussion on the current naming convention at Wikipedia talk:Chile-related regional notice board#Settlement naming conventions' Change Proposal. --Scott Davis Talk 08:56, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
- In the absence of clear agreement in any direction, I've opened a poll to help to develop clarity. Please express an opinion at Wikipedia talk:Chile-related regional notice board#settlement article naming poll. --Scott Davis Talk 12:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Nest your project banner?
You may wish to add nesting capability (see {{WikiProjectBannerShell}}) to your project's talk page banner. This allows banners to be hidden and, hence, the TOC to be closer to the top of the talk page when an article is within the scope of several WikiProjects. In particular, there is a lot of overlap in the articles of Category:Chilean cuisine. --GentlemanGhost 12:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Osorno
Hello all. The Osorno, Chile article awaits review! I have been working on the article for some time now, and I think I have done as much as I can for a non-Chilean, non-Spanish speaker who has never been there. Most of the article is translated from the original Spanish [1], and I think it is pretty good, except it needs citations. Would anyone know where to find these, and how much of it needs it? Thank you! Korossyl 17:26, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
A model to follow
I've just recently discovered an article which, in my opinion, is an excellent example of what an article about a place should be: Sale, Greater Manchester. If we can bring most articles about Chilean topics (places especially) even half-way as good as this one, we will have done a job to be proud of. --JAXHERE | Talk 16:31, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Barnstars
I have created the following two Barnstars for the use of Wikiproject:Chile. What do you think? I like the one with the plain background on the right. Korossyl 20:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- I would add a copihue to the star. Otherway the red-blue-white colours seems too common. Dentren | Talk 00:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- Dentren's idea would be a nice touch. --JAXHERE | Talk 15:35, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Cautín Province
I did a little work on Cautín Province last night, mostly making links. How does it look to you? I believe the article needs a bit of polish. Brian Pearson 00:27, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
- An anon, with some kind of agenda, replaced completely an old version of the article. A portion of the content is, apparently, a machine translation from the corresponding Spanish article. The History section is information from other sources, which I have not understood. What is the better way of fixing this, to revert to the old version or copyediting? Jespinos 02:13, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not sure. I'm a bit new at this, myself, but I'd lean towards copyediting. Maybe some others will chime in with their thoughts. Brian Pearson 23:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
- The article is much longer now, but the quality is lower than before. The article is full of opinions and thing needing citations and sources, but also needed to wifified and explained.. I dont like to eliminate info, so I will try to fix the article a little. Dentren | Talk 08:19, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, that sounds good. I was thinking this article could be a nice blueprint for the other province articles -- some of which haven't been developed nearly as much. Brian Pearson 01:14, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- OK, now I'm confused. My confusion arose when I thought I'd take a stab at a bit of editing, myself. First, there was the second paragraph which didn't exactly match the last one re Economy. Then, after I began looking for what they meant by the word, "silvoagropecuaria", I thought, well I'll go to the Spanish Wikipedia for Chile [2] and see what they have, only to learn that they have a completely different name for Cautin: "Coihaique" [3]. Brian Pearson 01:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- The corresponding article is es:Provincia de Cautín, I don't understand what you are referring to. Jespinos 16:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- OK, now I'm confused. My confusion arose when I thought I'd take a stab at a bit of editing, myself. First, there was the second paragraph which didn't exactly match the last one re Economy. Then, after I began looking for what they meant by the word, "silvoagropecuaria", I thought, well I'll go to the Spanish Wikipedia for Chile [2] and see what they have, only to learn that they have a completely different name for Cautin: "Coihaique" [3]. Brian Pearson 01:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, that sounds good. I was thinking this article could be a nice blueprint for the other province articles -- some of which haven't been developed nearly as much. Brian Pearson 01:14, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- The article is much longer now, but the quality is lower than before. The article is full of opinions and thing needing citations and sources, but also needed to wifified and explained.. I dont like to eliminate info, so I will try to fix the article a little. Dentren | Talk 08:19, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not sure. I'm a bit new at this, myself, but I'd lean towards copyediting. Maybe some others will chime in with their thoughts. Brian Pearson 23:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)