Talk:Jean Godden/Archive 1: Difference between revisions
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That "small community meeting" was a legislative district Democratic meeting, Carlo. One you attended as Godden's campaign manager. The statements are balanced given that they're followed by her endorsements. It's basically "some say things like this, but endorsements say this". It's well balanced. |
That "small community meeting" was a legislative district Democratic meeting, Carlo. One you attended as Godden's campaign manager. The statements are balanced given that they're followed by her endorsements. It's basically "some say things like this, but endorsements say this". It's well balanced. |
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Of course, if you'd like to take down all of the remarks about "lackluster opposition" or anything by the Times and PI since they've endorsed Godden, feel free. They've been judged to be legit sources. |
Of course, if you'd like to take down all of the remarks about "lackluster opposition" or anything by the Times and PI since they've endorsed Godden, feel free. They've been judged to be legit sources. Because if you want to play the "but the source is a friend or supporter of the candidate" game, you do remember that Godden was a longtime employee of both major papers and is endorsed by both now, right? The sources were deemed legit. Live with it, Carlo. |
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For a guy who attacks me for not having a life, you sure spend alot of time arguing with me over the internet.[[User:Mikesmash|Mikesmash]] 01:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC) |
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A lot of the biography had been lifted verbatim from her City of Seattle Biography: http://www.seattle.gov/council/godden/bio.htm There is still a bit of that left in there, for those in the mood to edit Surfeited 07:21, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Mikesmash's sources
The sources that Mikesmash is adding to Jean Godden appears valid for reporting criticism of a politician. Real Change News and Beacon Hill News are both valid news sources with full editorial oversight. • Lawrence Cohen 13:35, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
- A) they are not credible. an editorial by an endorser of joe szwaja is not an unbiased source fit for inclusion in a person's biographic wiki. real change does not have editorial oversight. it is run by tim harris, who is also a public supporter of joe szwaja. as per above, this does not meet the test of what is okay for a bio. if the executive director of a no-name paper (real change, circulation appx 1,200 copies) is an open endorser of joe szwaja, you have a conflict of interest problem. same with an op-ed in another no-name paper (beacon hill news? huh?) written by an outspoken opponent of jean. not unbiased. conflict of interest. no business on jean's wiki.
By that reasoning Jean Godden's endorsements by the Times and the PI should be removed from Jean's page, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.102.187.83 (talk) 01:43, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
"This article must adhere to the policy on biographies of living persons. Controversial material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous. If such material is repeatedly inserted or if there are other concerns relative to this policy, report it on the living persons biographies noticeboard."
- B) Ignoring point A, assuming that the source was the NY Times, why on Earth does this paragraph have any business being on this wiki:
- "Godden has faced criticism alleging that she is too beholden to developers. At a July 17 meeting in which 43rd District Democrats voted on their endorsements for the August 21 primary, a flier co-authored by John Fox of the Seattle Displacement Coalition stated that Godden has “consistently voted against the interests of neighborhoods, low-income and working people while routinely catering to the likes of Paul Allen, downtown, and the corporate establishment.”[1] The Beacon Hill News/South District Journal said of Godden, "there isn't a subsidy or a zoning change requested by Paul Allen's Vulcan Inc. that she hasn't fully supported."
- Obscure (and controversial) information about a small community meeting is completely irrelevant and does not belong on here. Also there is no evidence to support this claim, "a flier co-authored by John Fox of the Seattle Displacement Coalition stated that Godden has 'consistently voted against the interests of neighborhoods, low-income and working people while routinely catering to the likes of Paul Allen, downtown, and the corporate establishment.'" Where is the citation for that? You really think this is worthy of a paragraph on Jean Godden's wiki? Because it absolutely is not. Landsfarthereast 23:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
That "small community meeting" was a legislative district Democratic meeting, Carlo. One you attended as Godden's campaign manager. The statements are balanced given that they're followed by her endorsements. It's basically "some say things like this, but endorsements say this". It's well balanced.
Of course, if you'd like to take down all of the remarks about "lackluster opposition" or anything by the Times and PI since they've endorsed Godden, feel free. They've been judged to be legit sources. Because if you want to play the "but the source is a friend or supporter of the candidate" game, you do remember that Godden was a longtime employee of both major papers and is endorsed by both now, right? The sources were deemed legit. Live with it, Carlo.
For a guy who attacks me for not having a life, you sure spend alot of time arguing with me over the internet.Mikesmash 01:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)