Talk:Jumping the shark

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What happened to the article?

More importantly: who wrote this? It's a very uneducated effort.

It used to be HUGE. Why does everyone have this compulsive need to trim down articles?--68.173.177.238 15:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Seems like it was this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Addhoc Haplolology ^Talk/_{Contributions} 11:15, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

WTF? There was NOTHING wrong with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jumping_the_shark&direction=prev&oldid=120759615 Ian-sama 09:22, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Dear Wikipedians, please restore it. I'm just an ordinary visitor, and I've seen some really bad writing on Wikipedia, but this deserves some kind of "huh? wtf?" award. Who cares about some guy you've never heard of and some website you've never heard of that he sold to someone else? Please fix. 83.252.164.90 17:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Photo

The photo of the fonze doesn't seem to be of him actually jumping a shark, rather it seems to be just before or just after the jumping of the shark. For one, he is not actually jumping and two, there is no shark. I am not sure which one it is, or if this is even a production still and if this shot of the fonze actually ever made it on the show (it could have been taken in between takes or while he was training for the shot), but the caption needs to be changed because he is quite obviously not doing any kind of jumping action and it does not involve any sort of shark JayKeaton 12:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

This is not appropriate for any encyclopedia...

According to the jumptheshark.com site, the phrase was first coined by Jon Hein's college roommate, Sean J. Connolly, in 1985. On June 20, 2006, Hein sold his company, Jump The Shark, Inc., to Gemstar (owners of TV Guide).[5] The sale price was reported as "over $1 million". On February 28, 2007, TV Guide relaunched the web site, having moved it onto a new community platform provided by LiveWorld.com. “There's no Ty or a big bus, but JTS now offers real-time voting and posting, automated category tabulation, dynamic linking of shows across the site, and a facelift that brings the site out of the nineties,” stated founder Hein.[6][4] According to John DePalma, a well known linguist, the phrase has become extremely "trite and over used" and hence has lost its powerful meaning

This paragraph is badly written, confusing, and should really not be here. What the hell are they trying to say? Is this a commercial, shamless self promotion, or just bad writing. It also does not further explain the phrase, or its history. Sorry to point out the obvious, but who ever wrote this seems to miss the point.

The preceding unsigned post was contributed by IP user 70.52.186.200 on 00:54, 18 July 2007. Please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~). [[Briguy52748 03:08, 18 July 2007 (UTC)]]

So I removed it...

Yes I did. This does not need to be any more than a stub.

And your reasoning? I liked having a list of shows that jumped... 144.226.173.68 14:03, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

The preceding unsigned post was contributed by IP user 70.52.186.200 on 00:58, 18 July 2007. Please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~). Now, with that said, were the statements you removed verifiable and NPOV, and could they have been re-written to read better? Perhaps. It seems to me the Web site is an important part of "jump the shark" and its place in popular culture and, if properly researched (it can be easily done, IMHO), should be included in this article. [[Briguy52748 03:08, 18 July 2007 (UTC)]]

Tipping point or after the tipping point?

Is the J the S event the tipping point (or a sign of the tipping point), or did it happen after the tipping point? Do the circumstances indicate that the meaning should be, "desperate attempts to reverse declining popularity with increasingly unusual and surreal contrived drama"? Snowman 19:07, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Actual Jump moments

In the examples of Jump moments, many shows are listed that happen to have done something, regardless of whether it's a Jump the Shark moment or not. For example, the making of a movie based on the show cites The Simpsons, South Park and Family Guy amongst its examples. The Simpsons TV show is considered to have Jumped after the seventh season, long before the movie was considered for production. "South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut" was immensely popular and Oscar nominated and the show's quality has, by all accounts improved since. Finally, "Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story" was a major DVD success, and one of the key reasons the previously cancelled Family Guy was put back on TV. In all three instances, the movies had either nothing to do with the show Jumping the Shark, or in fact had the exact opposite effect. I'm deleting those examples, but I'm pretty sure there are more in there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miracle Five (talk • contribs) 08:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)