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Bwuhaha

[1] Don't worry, it can happen to the best of us.

...doesn't make it less hilarious, though. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Cascading protection

Just so you know, your cascade protection of your social psychology subpage protected {{tnavbar}}. Octane ^{[improve me]} 31.07.07 0023 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I'll get right onto fixing that! IronGargoyle 00:25, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I think I fixed the problem. I was worried about that happening, but I thought I'd caught all the transclusions. Thanks for catching that one. IronGargoyle 00:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Sure thing. (: Octane ^{[improve me]} 31.07.07 0057 (UTC)

Shut out the blinds, oh, you mighta been seen...

Nice to hear that I inspired that close and that some people appreciate my sense of humour. Will ^(talk) 01:09, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Deletion Review

Oops! The page isn't as clear as when i last used it. Therequiembellishere 19:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

about the Image:Fake Photograph as BuriedAlive.jpg

• but the public domain status of Image:BuriedAlive.jpg has been previously endorsed by multiple admins and I see no convincing reason to overrule them here
  • You have mistaking judgment. The image supported in many admins is the User:Johnnyboyca's. You have the duty that the file history is examined by yourself. --Hare-Yukai 06:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
    • If the earlier image uploaded by User:Johnnyboyca is in the public domain, I see no reason why the second one is not in the public domain as well. Based on the evidence presented, there is no compelling case for a conspiracy theory. It seems to be a simple case of the original being folded when copied years ago, and then another faithful reproduction from the original corrected this later. Wikipedia is not a battleground to prove conspiracy theories. This is an interesting issue, and I appreciate you bringing it to the community's attention in connection with the first image. If you feel there are still copyright issues with the second image, feel free to re-nominate it at WP:IFD. Regards, IronGargoyle 07:18, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
      • Will you assure this decision? The most simple explanation is that photograph was folded over along the vertical axis during an early version. But, I don't think so. --Hare-Yukai 08:01, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
      • I think so, that This is an interesting issue, and I appreciate you bringing it to the community's attention in connection with the first image. If you feel there are still copyright issues with the second image, feel free to re-nominate it at WP:IFD.. But I am afraid of stoker of them two persons. They are starting to attack next target. Image:Picture of smiling with army.jpg --Hare-Yukai 08:07, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Image:Fake Photograph as BuriedAlive.jpg

I noticed you deleted Image:Fake Photograph as BuriedAlive.jpg. But it seems the original uploader has uploaded a similar image under the same name. Should this be speedily deleted? Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 17:11, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I am going to post a thread on WP:AN/I regarding this matter. Regards, IronGargoyle 18:18, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Dear IronGargoyle

With you I shall ever be; Over land and sea My thoughts will companion you; With yours shall my laughter chime, And my step keep time In the dusk and dew With yours in blithesome rhyme; In all of your joy shall I rejoice, On my lips your sorrow shall find a voice, And when your tears in bitterness fall Mine shall mingle with them all; With you in waking and dream I shall be, In the place of shadow and memory, Under young springtime moons, And on harvest noons, And when the stars are withdrawn From the white pathway of the dawn. Mary Darby Robinson

My dear IronGargoyle, I've hesitated when thinking about the appropriate words to express how much your incredibly kind words, and the wonderful gift you graciously gave me have moved me. It's not often that an editor whose name is familiar to me, and whom I look up to so deeply, as I do to you, comes over to my talk page bearing such a breathtaking gesture for little me. Many times, I try to struggle to find the way to put all the wonderful feelings that the magic of kindness can create, only to end up realizing that, I cannot; and it's best not to spoil the sweet spark with words. For this reason, may my brief, but heartfelt "thank you, my new friend!" and the charm woven within the little gift of poetry above be a token of my gratitude, and a tiny token of a beautiful newfound friendship. Have a wonderful day! :) Love, Phaedriel - 21:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Generations

Thanks so much for zapping the Generations template! Yeehaw! 'bout time that happened. The next step is to merge all of that Strauss and Howe junk into one page. I'm new to Wikipedia, so any help you can lend would be much obliged! :) --Dylanfly 14:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Sure, I thought the original research arguments were pretty valid. Although I don't think I'm really qualified enough on the topic to be designing the template, I would be happy to undelete and userfy it if the original code would be helpful to you at all in designing the new template. Best, IronGargoyle 21:57, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Your User Page

I was looking around and came across your page and it had a long line of nonsense letters right in the middle. I was trying to get rid of that since it had been done by someone else.... I didn't think I had bothered anything that was supposed to be there!!!! Yikes! I'm so sorry! Dorothy Kernaghan-Baez

No worries. I was just curious. Best, IronGargoyle 22:25, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 2

Thank you for your support in my Request for Adminship. Unfortunately the nomination did not succeed, but please rest assured that I am still in full support of the Wikipedia project, and I'll try again in a few months! If you ever have any questions or suggestions for me, please don't hesitate to contact me. Best wishes, --Elonka 01:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

koreanname template deletion

I think you might have made a mistake on one of your recent template deletions and consequently broke existing articles. If I am interpreting the deletion discussion correctly, the Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2007_July_29#Korean_name_tables deletion review and your subsequent deletion action was for unused templates which redirected to koreanname, not for the template koreanname itself, which is now deleted. Ref. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Koreanname, the koreanname template is used on several articles which now display a red link. e.g. Korean People's Army, Seomjin River, and Kim Il-sung. -- Michael Devore 02:30, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I must have clicked a redirect by accident and missed the title. I've undeleted it, so hopefully it is working fine again. Thanks, IronGargoyle 02:34, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Weird, though, I'm still not getting Template expansion on the three example pages, although clicking on the template link in those articles successfully goes through to the edit page of the now-undeleted template code. Ahh, but if I change the template name to 'Koreanname' on the articles' edit page rather than the original 'koreanname', then it works as expected. I'm not sure exactly what this means, as my understanding of the subtleties of Wikipedia templates has been fully exceeded. -- Michael Devore 02:55, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm really not sure what happened. I'm a bit baffled too. IronGargoyle 06:04, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Just a friendly reminder that these redirects still haven't been deleted per the debate. :) Regards. PC78 12:16, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for catching that. I had undeleted them to try and fix something in the main template which was malfunctioning. IronGargoyle 19:56, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Closed TfD for Mexican state "flag" templates

Hi, I just saw you closed this discussion with "adjust and keep all". What happens if nobody makes the discussed adjustments? Am I free to re-nominate them after some time period? Thanks for your advice, Andrwsc 01:21, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but I would give it several months at least. Best, IronGargoyle 01:22, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

"Months"? Really? I was thinking of weeks... Hmm. Ok, thanks for the reply! Andrwsc 04:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

You could always fix it yourself... IronGargoyle 04:13, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I could, but I don't believe these pseduo-flags should be portrayed as real flags, so I'm not going to go out of my way to encourage that. I've got enough work on my plate managing the other ~900 templates in that set!  ;) Andrwsc 05:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive280

Image:Fake Photograph as BuriedAlive.jpg
You did mistake again. You decided as a original image the low resolution image, and as a fake the high resolution image. Those decisions violate natural science theory. How do you think about it? --Hare-Yukai 13:11, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I didn't delete the image, nor did I comment in the deletion discussion for your second edited image of the Nanking Massacre. I simply commented on an administrator's noticeboard that you uploaded a version of an image that was substantially similar to one I had deleted previously. There was firm consensus in the following discussion that the image you uploaded should be deleted. I'm not sure what else you'd like me to say. Best, IronGargoyle 16:41, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry It's my mistake. --Hare-Yukai 19:24, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I can not find the deep argument except for this argument. If there is another argument, please show me it. --Hare-Yukai 19:52, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't completely understand what you are asking me. There was the image deletion discussion in which you participated (and you said yourself that the image should be deleted). I think it's clear that you want the originals to be deleted as well. I think it's very unlikely for that to happen though. Sorry, IronGargoyle 20:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I was disappointed in your un-honesty. It's the argument of the extremely low level. I participate and say my opinion, too. And no one participates in the argument in the level of admin. You have the duty, which it answers again about the viewpoint of the resolution. --Hare-Yukai 21:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Would you tell me the reason why you thought the image of the less resolution was original. --Hare-Yukai 17:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

I explained it in my close of the deletion review. I have nothing more to say on this matter. IronGargoyle 18:20, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 13 August, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Chocolate Rain, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Wizardman 02:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

AWB

Thanks for the {{usertalkpage}} update. Much apreciated. Stealthrabbit ^{Say it, baby, say it!} 02:28, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Sure thing! IronGargoyle 18:31, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Notability Tags

I am really not trying to disrupt Wikipedia to prove a point, I did not indiscriminately tag articles I went through a catagory and its subcatagories and tagged articles that I felt showed no evidence of meeting WP:NN and WP:FICT - they have no secondary sources and no real world content - I do not see how placing tags disrupts Wikipedia as if there is evidence of notability then people should just add it to the article and remove the tag. I withdraw my nomination for the multiple deletions after I was informed that the relavent Wikiproject was actively working to remedy the situation. I do not see placing tags as stepping on anyones toes and I a sorry that other people feel that I have done this in order to be disruptive or prove a point. My general feeling is that there are a lot of articles on fictional works which do not meet the notability guidelines as set out in WP:NN and WP:FICT and that this has to be remedied. I am sorry to have troubled you however I think you coul assume good faith before accusing me of purposeful disrupting the project. [[Guest9999 00:05, 19 August 2007 (UTC)]]

I modified [links]

These modifications are just for better thing. You have to accept it. If you have some doubts, we should do argument in somewhere. --Hare-Yukai 21:27, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

User talk template replacement

While I appreciate your desire to implement the recent decision made at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 August 20#Template:Talk page, I take great exception to what seems to me to be a highly irregular "discussion", and the alterating of my carefully chosen notice to my communicants by replacing a help-style template for them with a template with a completely different purpose. (If I'd wanted that at the top of my user talk page, I would have chosen it instead or incorporated it into my talk page header.)

It looks like few of the template users participated in the discussion. I know I certainly had not noticed the TFD notice, given I had only one communication during the TfD period, and had jumped directly to the discussion rather than think to look at the (usually) unchanging text at the top of my talk page. If there were so few of us users, I think it would have been considerate to have posted a notice to each of us so we'd be sure to notice. If there were many of us, and perhaps even if not, the TfD can hardly be considered any reasonable consensus.

Can you give me a good reason why you felt it necessary to nominate this template, and why I shouldn't file a request for a review? Thank you for your assistance. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 02:01, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Sure, the original template can easily be transcluded from your userspace if you wish to keep the old version (I'd be more than happy to help any user who would like this done). Nothing was being deleted here, it was simply a name standardization. It should be relatively easy to fix if you liked the old version. I wouldn't have deleted it with the level of consensus there was at the discussion page, but given that any user can use the template code to replace the template in his or her own userspace, I felt that the arguments for standardization were the strongest. Best, IronGargoyle 02:10, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Surely you aren't suggesting that all you have done is to standardize naming? You have effectively eliminated the friendly template by redirecting it to another one with a completely different purpose. If you really were looking for standardization, you should have recommended changing the template name so that it didn't interfere with your desired standardization. Instead, you have forced non-participating template users to accept your change of purpose or adopt the balkanized version of a hard-coded insertion of the old text and formatting for each of their pages. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 02:50, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't have to be hard-coded... you can transclude it from your userspace (or mine... {{User:IronGargoyle/User talk}}). Best, IronGargoyle 02:58, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Again missing the point. Templates exist so lots of pages can take advantage of the same desirable formatted text and possibly optional features. Individual subpage transclusion is not a solution, just another balkanization (by which I mean that people who once were happy with using a single structure are now expected to create individual replacements). Why did you believe it was important to deprive users of this template of this ability? ~ Jeff Q (talk) 05:27, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Seriously, though, I specifically said I don't want the disclaimer template, and you put it in my talk page anyway. That's not cool. - BalthCat 05:21, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I was just replacing all transclusions per the TfD. Feel free to transclude the old version of the template from somewhere in your userspace (or mine... {{User:IronGargoyle/User talk}}). It's the same general idea as the userbox migration. Regards, IronGargoyle 13:19, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Your edit to User talk:MrStalker

Constructive contributions are appreciated and strongly encouraged, but your recent edit to the userpage of another user may be considered vandalism. Specifically, your edit to User talk:MrStalker may be offensive or unwelcome. If you are the user, please log in under that account and proceed to make the changes. Please use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do. Take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thank you. --MrStalker ^talk 07:17, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

It wasn't vandalism. It was part of a good faith closure of a templates for deletion discussion. The old template can always be transcluded from userspace (i.e. {{User:IronGargoyle/User talk}}). Best, IronGargoyle 13:22, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Another caution

Your vandalism of the apartheid article is not appreciated. If you're the sort of pathetic low-life who gets off this sort of thing, kindly take up graffiti. Robertson-Glasgow 15:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't vandalizing the article at all (although I'm not precisely sure what article you are refering to, because I removed the template {{Allegations of apartheid}} from a number of articles). I was closing this TfD discussion and removing the templates that were to be deleted. This it not vandalism, but calling me a pathetic low-life could be considered by some to be a personal attack. It is certainly uncivil. If you have any questions regarding my TfD closure however, I would be glad to address them. Regards, IronGargoyle 18:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

As is made patently obvious by a quick and simple gander at the comment that I left you, I did not, as you state, call you a pathetic low-life (although there's every chance); rather, I gave you advise on what to do "If you're [… a] pathetic low-life". Hair-splitting aside, though, here's a link which may just serve to refresh your ailing memory:http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=History_of_South_Africa_in_the_Apartheid_era&curid=2200527&diff=154783115&oldid=154742441. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertson-Glasgow (talk • contribs) 18:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I think you are looking at the wrong edit diff. Here is the edit that I made. The text removal was made by 87.78.66.218 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) in the next edit (which you cite). Either way, it's probably better not to even call vandals "pathetic low-lifes" (i.e., don't feed the trolls). Best, IronGargoyle 19:34, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Tripe. It's there for all to see. How can you deny having written what follows?

"Then two very brave people one by the name of Barry Dhillon and the other by the name of rebecka john came to save all once they created the time element and figured that we ran by time and introduce the watch and the element of gravitartional force" Robertson-Glasgow 21:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I deny it because it is patently absurd. IronGargoyle 21:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You are lying. It's there. Under your name. Here, again, is that link: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=History_of_South_Africa_in_the_Apartheid_era&diff=prev&oldid=154783115. Explain. Robertson-Glasgow 10:09, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

The material was added here, once again by an IP editor, 82.47.32.157 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). I have nothing more to say on this matter. IronGargoyle 11:24, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Of course you don't, but I do: why did you bring back that rubbish a full two edits after it had been deleted? I see now that you were not responsible for it in the first place, but your subsequent action made it look otherwise. Robertson-Glasgow 13:00, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk page template

Thanks for the talk-page template switch (I read the preceding conversation on this page, so I understand what it was about). You would probably want to add some sort of Wikilink into the summary so that people don't think you're just making changes arbitrarily, however. I was going to yell at you before I what the issue is really about, and I'm probably more patient than most people. In any case, have a nice way and happy editing. Alekjds ^talk 22:07, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, adding a better summary would have been helpful. I would done that if I could have figured out how to do the replacements with AWB. It was tricky because each template has a different variable for username. I was in a hurry and I didn't anticipate the level of anger in the response. Thanks for not yelling. :-) IronGargoyle 22:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Moved from userpage

Hi there, I am sorry I am not sure where to put a comment :O) You helped out with my article Arden Wohl...but someone keeps deleting out that she was in Vogue magazine in July and trying to get the article deleted again...what should I do..so annoying! Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tweety21 (talk • contribs)

TFD

Certainly. I just keep confusing the two different ways of closing things :) >Radiant< 07:22, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar

Thank you! It had been bothering me for ages that the project was so split up and messy, categories all over the place and the like. I've sorted out the to do list over at the project so hopefully we're getting there! Next plan is to get Kingda Ka to GA, would be a much needed boost for the project - nearly every other article is a stub or start class. Thanks again for the barnstar! :) Seaserpent⁸⁵_Talk 22:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Arden Wohl

hi there, would you be able to give any recommendations of fixing up this article to save from deletion? thanks! :O) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.205.212.5 (talk • contribs)

what I meant is help re:editing it!!! you know I am kind of new at all this..but I am not even going to bother anymore ...whats the point? I am not getting paid to take all this abuse from everyone...I just wanted to put up an interesting article about a girl who is trying to make a difference and I get beaten up!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.191.208.99 (talk • contribs)

Gulf of Lune

Hello. You removed a notability tag - which I replaced - please see Talk:Gulf of Lune87.102.17.39 19:46, 6 September 2007 (UTC)