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:::Fair enough. I'll keep that in mind when editing this article in the future. [[User:Paranoid|Paranoid]] 17:38, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
:::Fair enough. I'll keep that in mind when editing this article in the future. [[User:Paranoid|Paranoid]] 17:38, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)


==Vulva image==
== Image ==

'''Vulva'''
Shouldn't the photograph of the vulva only be displayed on the [[vulva]] page?
Shouldn't the photograph of the vulva only be displayed on the [[vulva]] page?


'''Vagina'''
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Shouldn't there be an actual vagina photo to depict how it looks and how it is shapes?

==Disclaimer warning people about photographic images==
==Disclaimer warning people about photographic images==
There is currently a very active debate on [[talk:clitoris]] about this. Rather than do it again here would people who are interested please comment there. There is also a vote going on that you might like to put your name too. [[User:Theresa knott|Theresa Knott]] [[User talk:Theresa knott| (Not the skater)]] 14:02, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
There is currently a very active debate on [[talk:clitoris]] about this. Rather than do it again here would people who are interested please comment there. There is also a vote going on that you might like to put your name too. [[User:Theresa knott|Theresa Knott]] [[User talk:Theresa knott| (Not the skater)]] 14:02, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Revision as of 16:50, 18 June 2005

I'm going to put my foot down on this one: we are not going to have a list of vulgar words for the vagina or the penis. That's not an encyclopedia article. It might be titillating to children and a pretty shoddy attempt at trolling, perhaps, but in any event, an encyclopedia article it isn't. We're not going to have such lists here on Wikipedia. See what Wikipedia is not. --LMS

I agree wholeheartedly --Mathijs

I agree too. - Mark Ryan

Thanks from one of the women! JHK

So what is this talk section, the Vagina Monologues <THORN> BF

I agree too, simply because lists of "naughty words" are not encyclopedia articles. --Stephen Gilbert

Hmm. I'm not going to weigh in on the particular matter in question here, but I wish to point out that there are a good many pages in Wikipedia that are not "encyclopedia articles". So obviously that is not the criterion for inclusion or exclusion. Have whatever opinion you wish, but at least discuss it honestly. - dcljr 06:38, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC) (latter remark stricken by dcljr 22:34, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC))

I agree in part - maybe a seperate article would be appropriate? I mean, there is some cultural value in the discussion of vulgarity and thus, there is an argument that can be made for inclusion in an encyclopedia. In any case, I'm taking out that little bit about calling the vulva a vagina being like calling a horse a rabbitt [sic]. That's just nonsense. --Nick 00:28, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)

  • And upon seeing that there is, in fact, a page for this, I agree in full. --Nick 00:35, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)

There are several vulgar terms in use as an alternative name for the vagina. These are not suitable for use in medical reports.

Although true, I'm tempted to move this to bad jokes and other deleted nonsense. --Brion

And more slang terms have arrived recently. I agree with the above, this is not the place. How about we shunt them off onto a page on slang, or something specific on sexual slang? that will at least keep them off this page -- Tarquin 18:04 Nov 29, 2002 (UTC)

Just going to balance up my comment against prurient edits below with a comment against prudery in Wikipedia here. I disagree with the contention that a listing and discussion of slang words for the vagina does not belong in an encyclopedia. From a lexicological and social attitudes point of view such information is highly pertinent. I do agree however that such a listing or discussion does not belong in this article. Oska 22:27, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)

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From my talk page: Paranoid, I reverted yr edits on purpose. Your edits seemed to be focussed on sexual information relating to the vagina which was mostly trivial. Women in asia or wherever performing tricks with their vaginas is not pertinent information to a general article on the vagina. Same goes for the rest of yr edits. I have no problem with this information being presented somewhere on wikipedia in a relevant context but I don't think it worthy of inclusion in this article. Oska 23:53, Aug 11, 2004 (UTC)

I do not necessarily insist that all edits that I made to the article are necessary, but I want to ask an honest question (3 questions, actually) - what kinds of sexual information should not be included in this particular article, why shouldn't it and where (in what other article) it should? May be information about tricks performed with vaginas does not belong here (but why not), but then some information about muscles does, but is currently missing. Why the angle of the vagina is important information, but its color isn't? Paranoid 15:04, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Basically no sexual information should be included in this discussion. It's an article about the vagina, not sex. Writing about fisting and double penetration in this article simply demonstrates a prurient interest in the vagina. If you had instead written something about the elasticity of the vagina which can allow the passage of an infant's head when giving birth and the introduction of an adult's hand during sexual play that would have been more acceptable. Finally, I did notice the information on color and thought it more relevant, but as you included it with the other material in a single edit it made it difficult for me to keep that and remove the rest. Oska 22:19, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)
Fair enough. I'll keep that in mind when editing this article in the future. Paranoid 17:38, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Image

Vulva Shouldn't the photograph of the vulva only be displayed on the vulva page?

Vagina Shouldn't there be an actual vagina photo to depict how it looks and how it is shapes?

Disclaimer warning people about photographic images

There is currently a very active debate on talk:clitoris about this. Rather than do it again here would people who are interested please comment there. There is also a vote going on that you might like to put your name too. Theresa Knott (Not the skater) 14:02, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Unprotected

(Crosspost to talk:clitoris, talk:penis, talk:vagina) - Ok, the disclaimer idea has been roundly rejected. I have unprotected all 3 articles (Penis, vagina, and clitoris). Let's try to keep it civilized now. →Raul654 00:04, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)

Disclaimer roundly rejected? I don't think so. --Cantus 02:07, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)
Ok, well 25 people oppose it, while only 9 support keeping it. →Raul654 02:09, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)