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I was about to write this then decided maybe we should not describe here how to tie this. Hmph. --Justfred

Some would say that's stifling the free interchange of information. But anyway... This article could certainly do with fleshing out. It doesn't stand well on it's own. Darac 21:57, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I also believe there is absolutely no reason to leave out information. My memory tells that there are actually two versions of the knot. One can be pulled open and another one can not. The non-opening version can be pulled tightly shut in order to make a very convenient throwing weight for an end of any rope of suitable thickness. --blades 01:48, May 11, 2004 (UTC)

The article seems to have improved. The thirteen turns sounds like one of those things that people keep adding to myths and stories to make them seem more mystical. Then again, maybe it is something people would really have done to make the event seem more mystical. I am not a hangman, so I can't tell for sure :) --blades 09:42, 30 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Name change

I believe the correct name for this knot is the "Hangman's knot". A noose is the simplest kind of running knot. - From the Morrow guide to knots. ISBN 0-688-01226-4

thirteen loops

I thought a Hangman's noose traditionally had thirteen loops. Is this not true?

Pud 01:40, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Each additional loop adds friction to the knot, so you adjust the number of loops according to how easily you want the knot to slide, and depending on the type and condition of the rope. 7 loops is the normal way of tying this knot (for natural rope), while 13 loops makes the knot look rather ugly (very elongated on most ropes) and a bit more unstable as the knot itself starts to bend.

I'll write some more on the main page if nobody minds, as there are "significant non-infringing [to life] uses" of the knot, and lots of history, politics and intregue to write about. Ojw 19:18, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Not dangerous?

User:64.40.45.208 wrote "There is nothing intrinsically dangerous about the hangman's noose itself.". Howabout its tendancy to shut easily and not open? Ojw 19:23, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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 I also believe there is absolutely no reason to leave out information. My memory tells that there are actually two versions of the knot. One can be pulled open and another one can not. The non-opening version can be pulled tightly shut in order to make a very convenient throwing weight for an end of any rope of suitable thickness.   --[[User:Blades|blades]] 01:48, May 11, 2004 (UTC)
-The article seems to have improved. The 13 turns sounds like one of those things that people keep adding to myths and stories to make them seem more mystical. Then again, maybe it is something people would really have done to make the event seem more mystical. I am not a chinese hangman guy, so I can't tell for sure :)  --[[User:Blades|blades]] 09:42, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
+The article seems to have improved. The thirteen turns sounds like one of those things that people keep adding to myths and stories to make them seem more mystical. Then again, maybe it is something people would really have done to make the event seem more mystical. I am not a hangman, so I can't tell for sure :)  --[[User:Blades|blades]] 09:42, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
-== a man's vision ==
+== Name change ==
 I believe the correct name for this knot is the "Hangman's knot". A noose is the simplest kind of running knot. - From the Morrow guide to knots. ISBN 0-688-01226-4
-If in fact you are attempting to escape your misery by hanging, You must use strong rope. Using thin or weak rope could break, leaving you lying on the ground in rediculous pain and possible parylization which will infact leave you in a very complicated situation.
-== 13 loops ==
+== thirteen loops ==
-I thought a Hangman's noose traditionally had 13 loops. Is this not true?
+I thought a Hangman's noose traditionally had thirteen loops. Is this not true?
 [[User:Pud|Pud]] 01:40, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
-:Each additional loop subtracts friction to the knot, so you adjust the number of loops to how easily you want the knot to slide, and depending on the type and condition of the rope.  7 loops is the normal way of tying this knot (for natural rope), while 13 loops makes the knot look rather sickning (very elongated on most ropes) and a bit more unstable as the knot itself starts to bend.
+:Each additional loop adds friction to the knot, so you adjust the number of loops according to how easily you want the knot to slide, and depending on the type and condition of the rope.  7 loops is the normal way of tying this knot (for natural rope), while 13 loops makes the knot look rather ugly (very elongated on most ropes) and a bit more unstable as the knot itself starts to bend.
-:I'll write some more on the main page if nobody cares, as there are "significant non-infringing [to life] uses" of the knot, and lots of history, politics and intregue to write about. didja? [[User:Ojw|Ojw]] 19:18, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
+:I'll write some more on the main page if nobody minds, as there are "significant non-infringing [to life] uses" of the knot, and lots of history, politics and intregue to write about.  [[User:Ojw|Ojw]] 19:18, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
-==Not dangerous you say?==
+==Not dangerous?==
-[[User:64.40.45.208]] wrote "''There is nothing dangerous about the hangman's noose itself, ropes don't kill people, people kill people.''".  Howabout its tendancy to shut easily and not open, isn't that cool man? [[User:Ojw|Ojw]] 19:23, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
+[[User:64.40.45.208]] wrote "''There is nothing intrinsically dangerous about the hangman's noose itself.''".  Howabout its tendancy to shut easily and not open? [[User:Ojw|Ojw]] 19:23, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)