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3/4 time

I know of no evidence, nor are any citations presented, that "I'll Be Back" was originally conceived in 3/4 time. The take played in 3/4 time presented on Anthology 1 could have been a one-off attempt. In fact, I'd propose that the difficulty John Lennon had in singing the part that tripped him up on that take stemmed entirely from the song's not having been written in 4/4; it really is inherently hard to sing it in 3/4. Besides, if the song were really substantially copied from "Runaway" by Del Shannon (another assertion with which I have a hard time, as there are substantial differences), a song which is in 4/4 time, I don't see how "I'll Be Back" could have been conceived in 3/4. If no one has a substantive argument (which I welcome), I intend to remove this assertion after a couple of weeks. MicroProf 22:26, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I don’t think the song was written in 3/4 time, but just attempted as a possible arrangement. Just remove the first sentence if no one else objects - the rest is valid. The songs verse chords are the same as “Runaway” but not the melody. Songwriters often use other songs as a device for initial inspiration.--Patthedog 10:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll wait for others to present evidence, if there is any. Just for the record, I inadvertently wrote "not having been written in 4/4" but meant 3/4 there.

As for the comparison with "Runaway," I understand what you're saying. I acknowledge that the beginning of the verse of each song has similar chord structure, but this breaks down soon. This strikes me as nothing more than influence, possibly worth mentioning in passing but not worth elaboration. MicroProf 17:46, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 I know of no evidence, nor are any citations presented, that "I'll Be Back" was originally conceived in 3/4 time. The take played in 3/4 time presented on Anthology 1 could have been a one-off attempt. In fact, I'd propose that the difficulty John Lennon had in singing the part that tripped him up on that take stemmed entirely from the song's not having been written in 4/4; it really is inherently hard to sing it in 3/4. Besides, if the song were really substantially copied from "Runaway" by Del Shannon (another assertion with which I have a hard time, as there are substantial differences), a song which is in 4/4 time, I don't see how "I'll Be Back" could have been conceived in 3/4. If no one has a substantive argument (which I welcome), I intend to remove this assertion after a couple of weeks. [[User:MicroProf|MicroProf]] 22:26, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 :Personally, I don’t think the song was written in 3/4 time, but just attempted as a possible arrangement. Just remove the first sentence if no one else objects - the rest is valid. The songs verse chords are the same as “Runaway” but not the melody. Songwriters often use other songs as a device for initial inspiration.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] 10:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
+::I'll wait for others to present evidence, if there is any. Just for the record, I inadvertently wrote "not having been written in 4/4" but meant 3/4 there.
+::As for the comparison with "Runaway," I understand what you're saying. I acknowledge that the beginning of the verse of each song has similar chord structure, but this breaks down soon. This strikes me as nothing more than influence, ''possibly'' worth mentioning in passing but not worth elaboration. [[User:MicroProf|MicroProf]] 17:46, 30 September 2007 (UTC)