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*this image is not necessary considering how many free images we have of josephine baker (about a dozen, spanning from the 1920s to the 1950s). the main editor of the page argues it's being used to show the costumes she's known for, but these aren't discussed anywhere in the main text and he keeps moving it to the top of the article to be the article's main image. we could describe these costumes in words and readers would know no less about baker [[User:Calliopejen1|Calliopejen1]] 19:20, 2 October 2007 (UTC) |
*this image is not necessary considering how many free images we have of josephine baker (about a dozen, spanning from the 1920s to the 1950s). the main editor of the page argues it's being used to show the costumes she's known for, but these aren't discussed anywhere in the main text and he keeps moving it to the top of the article to be the article's main image. we could describe these costumes in words and readers would know no less about baker [[User:Calliopejen1|Calliopejen1]] 19:20, 2 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:Another user has also raised this issue at [[Talk:Josephine Baker]] (though I'm not sure which particular images he was referring to). [[User:Calliopejen1|Calliopejen1]] 19:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC) |
:Another user has also raised this issue at [[Talk:Josephine Baker]] (though I'm not sure which particular images he was referring to). [[User:Calliopejen1|Calliopejen1]] 19:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::actually, with regard to the "free" images, there are only 3 that are not the typical banana images from the 20s. I have uploaded images before that are far more representative of Baker as she looked as a performer, but they are always challenged by [[user:Calliopejen1|Calliopejen1]], in spite of the fact that I clearly give a rationale that is logical. Free images uploaded into the commons or not, I really dont see why it is being made into such a stink. The images have been fully justified and do not infringe on any of teh copyright holders. I have requested that Calliopejen1 should help to find a way to keep the images rather than trying to get rid of them, by assisting me in choosing the proper way in which to give a rationale for an image when "free" ones are available. --[[User:Mrlopez2681|Mrlopez2681]] 20:08, 2 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::It's not just me making a stink. There were also other users on the talk page, and the admin who agreed that I was right and deleted the other nonfree images earlier. And the commons images are the reasons for the stink! By my count, there are four banana pictures, four other 1920s pictures, and four later pictures (last ones from 1951). This is plenty of pictures to illustrate the article. The problem is not that a new rationale should be written, it is that different (free) pictures should be used, because Wikipedia is the ''free'' encyclopedia. [[User:Calliopejen1|Calliopejen1]] 20:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC) |
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October 2
- PennyTration (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Videmus Omnia Talk 00:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- CoolKid1993 (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphan, possibly unfree. Videmus Omnia Talk 00:37, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- I personally took the photograph. I attended the Simpsons event at Comic-Con 2007. I took the picture. It is not fair use. It is not orphaned. It is not unfree. I will take a picture of the picture on my camera if you want me to. CoolKid1993 02:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- The image runs counter to the information here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/copyright#Images which cannot be "fair use" and the underlying principle of not using material copied from existing encyclopedias and encyclopedia-like works. The image was created and used in such a context where originally published in Green Lantern Secret Files.- J Greb 00:46, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Conte_di_Cavour (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, deprecated format. But|seriously|folks 00:51, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- The image runs counter to the information here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/copyright#Images which cannot be "fair use" and the underlying principle of not using material copied from existing encyclopedias and encyclopedia-like works. The image was created and used in such a context where originally published in The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe Master Edition published in 1990.- J Greb 00:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- The image runs counter to the information here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/copyright#Images which cannot be "fair use" and the underlying principle of not using material copied from existing encyclopedias and encyclopedia-like works. The image was created and used in such a context where originally published in The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe Delux Edition.- J Greb 00:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- The image runs counter to the information here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/copyright#Images which cannot be "fair use" and the underlying principle of not using material copied from existing encyclopedias and encyclopedia-like works. The image was created and used in such a context where originally published in The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe Delux Edition.- J Greb 00:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Michael Reiter (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- The image runs counter to the information here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/copyright#Images which cannot be "fair use" and the underlying principle of not using material copied from existing encyclopedias and encyclopedia-like works. The image was created and used in such a context where originally published in The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe published in 1985.- J Greb 01:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- The image runs counter to the information here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/copyright#Images which cannot be "fair use" and the underlying principle of not using material copied from existing encyclopedias and encyclopedia-like works. The image was created and used in such a context where originally published in The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe Delux Edition.- J Greb 01:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- The image runs counter to the information here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/copyright#Images which cannot be "fair use" and the underlying principle of not using material copied from existing encyclopedias and encyclopedia-like works. The image was created and used in such a context where originally published in The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe Master Edition published in 1990.- J Greb 01:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- The image runs counter to the information here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/copyright#Images which cannot be "fair use" and the underlying principle of not using material copied from existing encyclopedias and encyclopedia-like works. The image was created and used in such a context where originally published in The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe Master Edition published in 1990.- J Greb 01:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- JohnDBuell (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Image shows credit for television episode and "provides proof of their early writing projects, and their early collaboration (relative to their careers)". Image's content can wholly be reproduced textually, failing WP:NFCC#1. Rationale as "proof" unnecessary as episode can be referenced by the article ({{cite episode}}) for that purpose. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 07:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- JohnDBuell (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Image shows credit for television episode and is "historically important proof for the author's early work". Image's content can wholly be reproduced textually, failing WP:NFCC#1. Rationale as "proof" unnecessary as episode can be referenced by the article ({{cite episode}}) for that purpose. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 07:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- There's no fair use rationale on this picture. Wikimedia Commons has lots of pictures of Pinochet, and two of them are very good portraits (Image:Pinochet de Civil.jpg; Image:Augusto Pinochet - 1995.jpg) and can be used perfectly in the article, therefore there's no need to use non free media. Dantadd 12:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Doctor_Doomsday (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- already have one other nonfree poster for the same move - only need one Calliopejen1 14:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Doctor_Doomsday (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- already have one other nonfree poster for the same move - only need one Calliopejen1 14:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Marine_69-71 (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- definitely not pre-1923 as claimed Calliopejen1 17:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Also relatively easily replaceable. See User talk:Marine 69-71#Image:Jonny Moseley.JPG listed for deletion. --AnonEMouse (squeak) 17:35, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- not pre-1923, as claimed Calliopejen1 17:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- orphan, clearly not pre1923 Calliopejen1 18:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Lemonade51 (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- orphan, definitely not pre1923 Calliopejen1 18:19, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- city govt images are not PD Calliopejen1 18:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Trollderella (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Source photo page shows CC BY-NC-ND license; not free.- grendel|khan 19:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Mrlopez2681 (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- this image is not necessary considering how many free images we have of josephine baker (about a dozen, spanning from the 1920s to the 1950s). the main editor of the page argues it's being used to show the costumes she's known for, but these aren't discussed anywhere in the main text and he keeps moving it to the top of the article to be the article's main image. we could describe these costumes in words and readers would know no less about baker Calliopejen1 19:20, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Another user has also raised this issue at Talk:Josephine Baker (though I'm not sure which particular images he was referring to). Calliopejen1 19:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- actually, with regard to the "free" images, there are only 3 that are not the typical banana images from the 20s. I have uploaded images before that are far more representative of Baker as she looked as a performer, but they are always challenged by Calliopejen1, in spite of the fact that I clearly give a rationale that is logical. Free images uploaded into the commons or not, I really dont see why it is being made into such a stink. The images have been fully justified and do not infringe on any of teh copyright holders. I have requested that Calliopejen1 should help to find a way to keep the images rather than trying to get rid of them, by assisting me in choosing the proper way in which to give a rationale for an image when "free" ones are available. --Mrlopez2681 20:08, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- It's not just me making a stink. There were also other users on the talk page, and the admin who agreed that I was right and deleted the other nonfree images earlier. And the commons images are the reasons for the stink! By my count, there are four banana pictures, four other 1920s pictures, and four later pictures (last ones from 1951). This is plenty of pictures to illustrate the article. The problem is not that a new rationale should be written, it is that different (free) pictures should be used, because Wikipedia is the free encyclopedia. Calliopejen1 20:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- actually, with regard to the "free" images, there are only 3 that are not the typical banana images from the 20s. I have uploaded images before that are far more representative of Baker as she looked as a performer, but they are always challenged by Calliopejen1, in spite of the fact that I clearly give a rationale that is logical. Free images uploaded into the commons or not, I really dont see why it is being made into such a stink. The images have been fully justified and do not infringe on any of teh copyright holders. I have requested that Calliopejen1 should help to find a way to keep the images rather than trying to get rid of them, by assisting me in choosing the proper way in which to give a rationale for an image when "free" ones are available. --Mrlopez2681 20:08, 2 October 2007 (UTC)