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The "Milk is Milk" Campaign (all milk is the same, whatever you do to it) had a billboard tagged by a raw milk supporter. (It's from my site.) |
The "Milk is Milk" Campaign (all milk is the same, whatever you do to it) had a billboard tagged by a raw milk supporter. (It's from my site.) |
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== First reference link == |
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I'm not sure how notable it is to include the paper written in 1938 as a reference. Especially since it's a Pro-raw milk paper and it's included in the the Pro-pasteurization section. I'm going to remove it. If anyone can come up for a reason to keep it there, you can put the link back. http://www.realmilk.com/rawvpasteur.html |
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[[User:Quasispace|Quasispace]] 03:24, 10 October 2007 (UTC) |
Revision as of 03:24, 10 October 2007
Page Scope
Perhaps this page should be named "Raw milk debate in North America" or even "Raw milk debate".
Some of the content is not part of the debate, but is simply verifiable fact, and should be moved to raw milk.
What do you think? Edit, or comment here.
The following sentence is verifiable fact and should be in raw milk: "The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) cite numerous cases of serious or fatal infections caused by raw milk, with E. coli O157:H7 being the most important because it can cause the hemolytic-uremic syndrome, a life-threatening condition [3]. In a CDC report, numerous cases were traced to raw milk from a cow-share program in Cowlitz County, Washington. After five children were hospitalized, a court order was issued to bring the farm into compliance [4]." The sentence after that links to an excellent review article in a major medical journal, but ends with the author's opinion that pasteurized milk is just as nutritious as raw milk: "A review of infections associated with raw milk contends that pasteurized milk is just as nutritious as raw milk, so that there is neither a scientific nor an aesthetic reason for choosing raw milk products[5]." At this point, it would be nice to include studies, if any have been done, on how laboratory animals do when drinking pasteurized milk vs. raw milk - do they grow as fast or to the same extent? Also, how about a taste test of whole pasteurized milk vs. raw milk - can people tell them apart without a label? However, milk industry experts worrry about standardizing the taste of milk - http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3301/is_9_105/ai_n6205068 For example, I've had milk from a small dairy that tasted like scallions, perhaps because the cows grazed in a field with scallions. I'm not sure that Wikipedia can solve all of these questions about this emotionally charged area. Perhaps it would be good to add a section to this topic - and perhaps many other Wikipedia topics - called "Unanswered Questions" or "Topics for Further Study" that reflect the true incomplete nature of much of our knowledge. Rkornbluth 15:40, 16 June 2007 (UTC)rkornbluth
[edit] Views of raw milk supporters
I removed the discussion of cow breeds and buying directly from farms for the reasons you give (they are just facts, not part of debate). Otherwise, I made no substantive changes, just clarified the lists and moved some items from one to the other.
Here is an interesting story on activism as it relates to raw milk: http://www.rebuild-from-depression.com/blog/2006/12/milk_is_milk_billboard_tagged.html The "Milk is Milk" Campaign (all milk is the same, whatever you do to it) had a billboard tagged by a raw milk supporter. (It's from my site.)
First reference link
I'm not sure how notable it is to include the paper written in 1938 as a reference. Especially since it's a Pro-raw milk paper and it's included in the the Pro-pasteurization section. I'm going to remove it. If anyone can come up for a reason to keep it there, you can put the link back. http://www.realmilk.com/rawvpasteur.html Quasispace 03:24, 10 October 2007 (UTC)