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I sort of forgot something...

Say I'd like to create an article on a Hannah Montana episode, what would I need to start it to follow under that one guideline I can't remember? Something about needing 8 cites I think. I think "Don't Stop 'Til You Get the Phone" could be created like the article "Me and Mr. Jonas and Mr. Jonas and Mr. Jonas". I'm sort of new on making articles and what the guidelines for it are. --ZSoraz 01:52, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it will be under the Rock Block and cover both the Cory in the House and Hannah Montana episode. You can probably start an article using what you know and a template from other episodes. The episode will probably get redirected back to the episode list if you don't have some real world reliable commentary ABOUT the episode such as some news paper critique and rating information. I like episode pages and think they add to the whole but I am in a minority and other editors are really picky about following the WP:EPISODE guidelines. --NrDg 02:11, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I know how that is. I love episode pages too. Anyway, I think I will start a Rock Block page. Good idea, like Wish Gone Amiss and Achy Jakey Heart. So as long I get alot of info such as the episode writers and guest stars and ratings, I can post it? --ZSoraz 02:16, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

You might need more than just rating info, unfortunately. Writer, director and ratings already have a spot in the episode list. What people are really looking for is reviews by some major paper, discussion of why The Rock was doing this stunt casting gig, any discussion ABOUT the episode is really needed. We can put a lot of stuff in the episode list. Things that can be formally referenced really create a solid foundation for Notablilty. Give it a go and good luck. --NrDg 02:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello

I didn't revert the "independent" to Independent changes, because of all the crap edits made, those were actually correct, oddly enough :). No worries though, thanks for reverting the rest. Take Care and Have a Good Weekend...NeutralHomer ^T:C 02:02, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know enough about all the subjects hit and don't trust anything he touched. Figured it would be better to just go back to something known to be good and hope the good changes would filter back in. --NrDg 02:05, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

No worries :) I can go in and re-edit those couple pages with the "Independent" wikilink. Most of the time though, I am with you, I revert everything, especially if it is in a section of the country I don't know about. Many thanks for reverting though, I (and everyone at WP:TVS) appericates it. Take Care...NeutralHomer ^T:C 02:11, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Ray Daudani

Ray Daudani is now a reporter in Baltimore. Why do you keep changing it back and say the information is vandalism?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.153.161.189 (talk • contribs) 02:20, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I was cleaning up after a known inserter of false information and I am not familiar enough with the subject to tell the good from the bad. Please put back the stuff I mistakenly removed. Thanks. --NrDg 02:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Disney Channel Template

I thought we weren't supposed to add shows to the template unless it was 15-30 days before airing, maybe its just a mistake, please respond. Thanks! --Yankeesrj12 23:36, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not aware of that rule, I would appreciate a pointer. I don't have a problem with removing content in general if there is a good reason, mostly just that you didn't explain in the edit summary why you removed it. I think, however, that since there is a page for that show, that the template's pointing to it is OK. I think you should leave it in, no harm that I can see if you do, unless there is some content guideline or policy that justifies removing it. --NrDg 23:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I have no problem with it, I was just saying. --Yankeesrj12 01:21, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

The Rock

I don't think The Rock should be included as an acquaintance of Hannah (List of Hannah Montana minor characters), since she wasn't using her alias, but then again could we call him an acquaintance of Miley's? --ZSoraz 05:15, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree. --NrDg 13:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Wizards Episodes

The only reason I deleted the info is because it is on no other Disney Series, and shouldnt be on this. --Yankeesrj12 17:43, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Check List of Hannah Montana episodes which is a Disney Series. When the episode pages were removed this was the only way to get some of the information in those pages back in. It seems to be working there. If you can justify individual episode pages for "Wizards" it won't be needed. Very hard to do as there is unlikely to be any real world notability of the individual episodes. --NrDg 17:47, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Hannah/Miley album article

I was just wondering. You mentioned that Billboard.com cites the article as being certified 3x platinum with the source pointing here. However, the album has a '2' next to the triangle, indicating that it is 2x platinum. Unless I'm missing something, could you please verify where you got the info on 3x platinum? Dh993 02:15, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Hover your mouse over the triangle icon for an explanation. For platinum you just see the triangle. The number after the triangle is the ADDITIONAL platinums past the first. That means platinum is just the triangle. A triangle with a 1 is double platinum, a triangle with a 2 is triple platinum. It took me a bit to figure out what was going on. I saw in a web article that Miley was celebrating the latest album going triple platinum, so looked into this. Also sales of 1.5 million double albums counts as 3 million units for RIAA certification purposes so it all checks out as triple platinum. --NrDg 02:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification, and I will be sure to enforce that in the future! Dh993 03:06, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmm....

Do you think we should keep such section articles like Quotes in Me and Mr. Jonas and Mr. Jonas and Mr. Jonas? I know Trivia is discouraged, though still accepted under few circumstances, but I think that they say that we should put quotes on wiki-quote right? --ZSoraz 04:38, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Quotes definitely don't belong, trivia is supposed to be temporary and is essentially a to-do list of things that need to be either discarded or integrated in the main article. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hannah_Montana is the place for quotes.--NrDg 13:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

HSM 3 Dilemma

Hi. I am aware that I forgot to cite my sources, but I don't know how. I saw it in People Magazine. It is true that Vanessa is being replaced by Adrienne and i'm happy!! Adrienne is so much better than Vanessa. She don't get nude in front of cameras! Quefuedelamor12569 00:02, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Since that conflicts with every other reference that is on the net that I've seen, you need to cite the source and you can't remove the other conflicting references. See WP:REF for info on how to to cites or just put <ref>url of web page</ref>after your information. --NrDg 00:10, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Moved conversation to User talk:Quefuedelamor12569 --NrDg 00:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

hsm 3 dilema pt. 2

I don't give a shit! Adrienne is better! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Quefuedelamor12569 (talk • contribs) 01:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Replied at User Talk:Quefuedelamor12569 --NrDg 02:10, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

WIZARD OF WAVERLY PLACE EPISODES

Could we at least get rid of the production code, how is that usueful? --Yankeesrj12 02:15, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

The reason for the production code is that it shows the shooting order of the episodes as opposed to the broadcast order. The production code would serve no purpose if Disney broadcast shows in the proper order, which they don't. Some people (me for example), like to see the shows in the order the writers designed and find the production codes useful for replaying episodes taped. Most lists of episodes have the production code, it is a named field in the template, so it is kind of standard to use it. Major problem is determining what the production code is. Only real source that is trusted is U.S Copyright Office and it lags a lot. TV.com is what people use until we get better info. --NrDg 02:25, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Wondering...

"There is going to be an episode called "Lilly's Mom Has Got It Going On!" where Lilly's Mom falls in love with Robby." I was wondering what you might think of this line used from Section "Notes" in Article List of Hannah Montana Episodes. You of course remember that Lilly talked about her Dad's back in I Want You to Want Me ... To Go to Florida; should we get rid of this line since it seems Disney wouldn't air an episode that conflicts these two facts, or should it be kept for some reason (possibly because it really is discussed or portrayed in Disney Adventures; I don't read it. lol)? --ZSoraz 06:56, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I think we should just leave it as is. It would be better if all the facts stated in the notes section had a more detailed cite but the TV Guide info is generally accepted as true. As for the supposed conflict, it is either a continuity error, or, much more likely, Lilly's parents will be revealed to be divorced. --NrDg 13:17, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Phineas and Ferb

Yes thats why i deleted the writer and director plus each episode is only 15 minutes so there is 2 episodes in each episode --Yankeesrj12 17:01, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Look at this list List of The Replacements episodes thats what Phineas and Ferb will be like. --Yankeesrj12 17:35, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Yah thats why I put Rollecoaster/Candace Looses Her Head and the date could be August 17, 2007/ January ___ ,2008 or something like that --Yankeesrj12 20:10, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Hellothere

Hello there, i added the comment from netralized about decimal to binary and the opposite, how come was it considered as spam ? thank you in advance —Preceding unsigned comment added by Netralized (talk • contribs) 18:53, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Mainly because the link matched your username. Looked like advertising for your web site. Also articles are not supposed to contain lists of links. I felt the link didn't add much to the article and was redundant. --NrDg 21:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Wolff articles

I see you watch the Wolff family/Naked Brothers Band articles a lot; you might want to follow this, including the IP. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:08, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

User:Thistime19

Is there anything you can do to help get rid of this person? --Zero Cool 19:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

You've added him to WP:AIV, that's all you can do so far. --NrDg 19:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Read

Alright. You should read through this. Stop reverting whatever is on my talk page, I decide what to do at that time.

Original research, whatever. All that stuff is true. If you want to expirement, why don't you just go use the sandbox.

- Yours truly, Superior_(talk) 16:33, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Please read up on the wikipedia policies that were part of the standard warning messages. Original research is not permitted. Find a source and you can put that in. Until then it gets removed. --NrDg 16:37, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

UAA report of User:Ceira

I don't consider it a good idea to try to get a good-faith user blocked for having a few letters in common with the name of a singer. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 17:29, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. Was going to remove it but you got to it first. Wasn't trying for a block, just a change. I think I understand the policy better now and will just bring it to the user's attention. --NrDg 17:33, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

In most cases, that's what I'd say you should do. But in this case, really, there's nothing at all wrong with the name. I think you should just leave the user alone. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 17:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

OK - good advise. I'll just drop it. Thanks for your help. --NrDg 20:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

STOP

I have done NOTHING to the "It's a Laugh Productions, Inc." article anymore, so why are you still after me? I've never met anyone more infuriating than you; STOP REVERTING WHAT'S ON MY USERPAGE. What, watching my page 24/7? Idiot. Leave my page alone. I know tons of others who remove warnings off their pages. They are simply WARNINGS.

- Yours truly, Superior_(talk) 17:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

The last warning was for edits you made after the first warning. If you now understand the policy on original research, great. I have no other issues. Please continue to contribute to that article as you are able within the bounds of wikipedia policy. Your contribution are appreciated.

I watch all talk pages I edit so that I can watch for replies. Usually for about a week or so. Removing warnings looks like an attempt to mask the level of warning for future warnings. WP:UW recommendations have 4 levels and it looks like trying to game the system to remove them too fast as it hides the last level. Most people archive their talk pages to clear them out, removing comments completely is generally not considered polite. Calling me names, threats and demands are not productive ways of modifying my or anybody's behavior. If you have a disagreement it is best to just use the talk pages to discuss it. I really am trying to be helpful. --NrDg 18:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

My current IP

This is my current IP.--71.221.112.15 19:38, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

spam links on Ashley Tisdale

sry but i wasn't putting advertisement, but the myspace link said that she has now facebook profile and group, and that's why i putted the link —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eaalb (talk • contribs) 18:29, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia it not a list of links either (WP:NOT#LINK). Any facebook link is almost certain of being a bogus poser and needs a really strong reference IN the article to justify putting it in. --NrDg 18:38, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

RE: RE: okay dude/dudette

let us sort things out. First off, what I deleted in the article should not be in the article, period. Second the thing in the "Talk" part of it, I wrote. Maybe I wrote it at school on a school computer, but I wrote it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.226.61 (talk) 18:39, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk pages are supposed to be a history of conversations about the article, you are not supposed to edit other people's comments at all. You can delete stuff that isn't about the article, but that is it. And how is anyone supposed to know that that you are the same person posting as different identities? You need to leave old stuff alone and add to it, even if it is your own stuff. --NrDg 18:47, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

okay I apologize for that. but what about the main article, that should not be there, period.