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This is an instruction to a customer, not a fact about the slingbox itself. I suggest, "The most common problem among slingbox owners is reconfiguring a router, since the Slingbox uses port forwarding." |
This is an instruction to a customer, not a fact about the slingbox itself. I suggest, "The most common problem among slingbox owners is reconfiguring a router, since the Slingbox uses port forwarding." |
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== Response to Astroturfing == |
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John Marcotte's angry words may be able to be deconstructed, but their meaning doesn't change. Wikipedia is a place for straight information, not your advertising. |
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If users are reporting problems with setting up the slingbox that is relevant. If you don't want people to have access to the large number of complaints about the Slingbox Setup, then don't provide a public forum for it. |
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Your use of the word "innovative" is completely subjective considering there are an array of other products providing streaming DVR media including even now the PSP. |
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Sentences like: |
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"However, unlike Sony's LocationFree Player, the Slingbox user is not required to obtain or pay for a new license, in order to stream to another computer." |
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is a competitive blunt and isn't relevant. Links to the articles below for each of the other media are provided. They can go to each page to see what the competition offers. |
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Another poorly worded sentence is: |
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"This is mainly due to the fact that you have to configure your router to allow port forwarding." |
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This is an instruction to a customer, not a fact about the slingbox itself. I suggest, "The most common problem among slingbox owners is reconfiguring a router, since the Slingbox uses port forwarding." |
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...Of course that still needs to be verified somewhere... |
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Astroturfing
The "Customer Problems" area has been gutted to the point that it now reads like it came from the Slingbox marketing team -- which it probably did. The description of the "slingcommunity" Web site is ripped directly from the "description" metatag on the site. All negative language was removed. Maketing buzzwords like "innovative device" crept in and the trademark symbol was included on all references.
Current version:
Slingbox customers have requested help with configuring their Slingbox's on the slingcommunity web site [5]. SlingCommunity is an interactive community dedicated solely to Sling Media's Slingbox™ Personal Broadcaster. It is a place where any consumer can share ideas and discuss this innovative device. Many consumers use this site to get help and report problems with network configuration, especially in configuring the Slingbox to be remotely viewable from the internet.
Sling Media also has a great support and support staff. You can find their support page here
Version available before "Daddybc" got ahold of the site:
Slingbox customers have reported numerous problem with configuring their Slingbox's on the company's community web site[5]. Many consumers have reported problems with network configuration, especially in configuring the Slingbox to be remotely viewable from the internet, when their SlingBox is behind a firewall on their home network. Even when the Slingbox is reachable from the internet, the company's configuration software refuses to update Slingbox settings to allow remote viewing unless the user's PC is running on the local (home) network.
152.79.71.230 23:14, 13 April 2007 (UTC)John Marcotte
Response to: Astroturfing
I do not agree with the use of the term "Astroturfing"; nothing in the article claims to be in support of anything that is falsely attributed to a grass-roots testimonial.
In fact there isn't much substance to John Marcotte's criticism after the flamewords are doused:
+ "gutted" = "changed" + "reads like" = "my perception is" + "probably did" = "I would like everyone to think" + "ripped" = "cited" + "all negative language" = "dishing" + "crept in" = "were added" + "got ahold of" = "contributed to"
The cited "previous" version preferred by Marcotte is simply not coherent, and is at best inaccurate, if I understand it at all.
In my opinion, this should be an article about the device and its innovative features and uses, not about claims against the manufacturer about how difficult it is to use, configure, or its software delivery schedules. Who's going to care about such axe-grinding, a hundred years from now?
Steve Hartwell, Macintosh Developer Lead, Sling Media
St3veh 04:34, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
NTSC
I made a edit adding Japan to the reference to NTSC, is this right? I would like some confirmation. I know that Japan uses ntsc, I just dont know if it applies in this context.
IR cabling
Is it just me, or does that sound odd.
No, it's just the lead and external IR sender pod that you string from the back of the Slingbox (or [Tivo] or Video Sender) to sit in front of your video/satellite unit so it can control it. AMe 19:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Response to Astroturfing
John Marcotte's angry words may be able to be deconstructed, but their meaning doesn't change. Wikipedia is a place for straight information, not your advertising.
If users are reporting problems with setting up the slingbox that is relevant. If you don't want people to have access to the large number of complaints about the Slingbox Setup, then don't provide a public forum for it.
Your use of the word "innovative" is completely subjective considering there are an array of other products providing streaming DVR media including even now the PSP.
Sentences like:
"However, unlike Sony's LocationFree Player, the Slingbox user is not required to obtain or pay for a new license, in order to stream to another computer."
is a competitive blunt and isn't relevant. Links to the articles below for each of the other media are provided. They can go to each page to see what the competition offers.
Another poorly worded sentence is:
"This is mainly due to the fact that you have to configure your router to allow port forwarding."
This is an instruction to a customer, not a fact about the slingbox itself. I suggest, "The most common problem among slingbox owners is reconfiguring a router, since the Slingbox uses port forwarding."
Response to Astroturfing
John Marcotte's angry words may be able to be deconstructed, but their meaning doesn't change. Wikipedia is a place for straight information, not your advertising.
If users are reporting problems with setting up the slingbox that is relevant. If you don't want people to have access to the large number of complaints about the Slingbox Setup, then don't provide a public forum for it.
Your use of the word "innovative" is completely subjective considering there are an array of other products providing streaming DVR media including even now the PSP.
Sentences like:
"However, unlike Sony's LocationFree Player, the Slingbox user is not required to obtain or pay for a new license, in order to stream to another computer."
is a competitive blunt and isn't relevant. Links to the articles below for each of the other media are provided. They can go to each page to see what the competition offers.
Another poorly worded sentence is:
"This is mainly due to the fact that you have to configure your router to allow port forwarding."
This is an instruction to a customer, not a fact about the slingbox itself. I suggest, "The most common problem among slingbox owners is reconfiguring a router, since the Slingbox uses port forwarding."
...Of course that still needs to be verified somewhere...