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• Actually, I think a redirect to Top Ramen would be more appropriate. I'd make one, but I'm not sure how... my contributions to wikipedia have been a recent thing, so I'm still getting used to it all. Re: humor - yep, I've found several humorous articles on this web site. It's quite a fascinating bit, really.
  
  

Re: unknown bands... see, when I think of unknown, I think of indie - I know/know of a lot indie bands who aren't all that famous but still have a fan following. I've gotten an indie zine started and written actual articles about the bands which I attempted to add. They may be relatively obscure in the grand scheme of things, but are locally (or otherwise marginally) recognized. I do believe John has a point about the fact that what is unknown to some is obvious fact to others. However, after seeing an article about a director I've heard of land up in the deletion bin because he didn't have enough "notability", I don't feel quite so bad about my band pages getting deleted... you know? ;) Also, out of curiousity, how did you find my band contributions in the first place? Did you search for new additions, or what?

Re: mod - I actually meant moderator, as in site administrator. :) Moderate contributor works well, too, though. --RockerGrrrl 02:39, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Sethu Lakshmi Bayi

The quote is found in Freedom at Midnight,a book that deals with the Indian independance movement's last moments etc. I dont remember the page etc as of now. Besides ive read it in a newpaper article as well. Manu

The one i read was months back from a library...will inform u after i manage to get the book once again. Manu

RE: User:72.224.14.110

I know, but I reported him to the AIV. Either way, the user has to be blocked. He is a big time vandal. Cheers, JetLover 21:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Gipuzkoa/Guipúzcoa/Guipuscoa

I have also seen Guipuscoa more often than any of the others. (In Spanish it's Guipúzcoa, and in Basque Gipuzkoa.) But, I checked Britannica, Columbia and Merriam-Webster, and "Guipúzcoa" (with the acute accent) seems to see the preferred form (see Talk:Guipúzcoa). On the other hand, place naming is a sensitive political issue in Spain. You are likely getting dragged into edition wars if you change the Basque name. I prefer less sensitive issues ;) Jmgonzalez 16:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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This was something to be discussed in the Basque WikiProject, though I ahve been absent from Wikipedia lately and I don't know what happened in the end. One strong position in this issue was that of English philologist, living in the Basque Country, Alan King, who suggested that Guipuscoa really has no such strong tradition in English language as to support it being kept that way and that instead the official name should be used primarily. He went even further and sugegsted that Biscay should be found by Bizkaia, because Biscay is really amost only used for the sea of that name and not so commonly for the province.

It's a similar case with Gotemburg/Göteborg... where the western Latinized name is in the end no more common than the original Swedish name. Is it Zaragoza or Saragossa in English? Obviously this may be subject to discussion and it's difficult to find the correct midpoint. My personal opinion is that unless it's a very common term in English, such as capital or other worldwide famed cities, or there's no standard native spelling, the official name should be used primarily. And that's the case for Gipuzkoa, a place that is not worldwide famed at all.

In any case, I have nothing to do with any recent changes in that page. Yet I support the form Gipuzkoa, which is the official name, unless you can demonstrate that the Latinized form Guipuscoa is such a widely known term in English that doing otherwise would cause confussion to most users. Remember that nowadays English is not anymore just an ethnic language but the primary international language and hence these issues must have a cosmopolitan and not an Anglo-centric approach.

--Sugaar 04:15, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

The pronunciation of Gipuzkoa (Basque spelling) and Guipúzcoa (Spanish and traditional spelling) is almost the same. The name Gìpuzkoa is the only official since 1991 and the Basque institutions use it both writing in Basque and in Spanish. Guipuscoa was used in English but I think it is out of use now. The issue is political rather than linguistic. I would recommend to use Guipúzcoa in Spanish even if it is not official, and also Guipuscoa in English has it has some tradition, at least until there is some definition within the province itself (Maybe there is a political turnover and then Guipúzcoa comes back, as even if it is not official it is still widely used).

--alfanje 12:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: PRS Guitars

Well, I added that a year ago. Haha. Back then the Legal Issues section was a total mess, I was thinking of cleaning it up but I didn't what should be excised and not. So I left it up to other people, I was expecting the tag to be removed sooner or later by someone, not left up an entire year. --Saint-Paddy 19:42, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Global Water Partnership

A tag has been placed on Global Water Partnership, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to a nonexistent page. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Schutz 21:07, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism on articles related to Afghanistan

For quite some time now, there has been a concerted effort on the part of certain individuals to monopolize editing rights to tens of articles pertaining to Afghanistan. These individuals have continuously shown their leanings towards a subversive political philosophy which I will not go into. My point is that these articles have become nothing more than a propaganda tool through which these people spread their misinformation and slander those who they view as their opponents.

All attempts that have been made to contribute to these articles have been reverted and labeled as vandalism. All sources that I and others have put forth to justify our edits have been rejected by the individuals in question, without reasonable grounds. Numerous attempts have been made to settle these disputes, but all have been ignored.

What, if anything, can be done about this? I am still quite new to the Wikipedia community, but have made every attempt to make meaningful contributions to no avail. The behavior I've described seems like it has absolutely no place here and has greatly diminished this project in my eyes. If you have a moment to spare, I would greatly appreciate any advice you would be able to offer.

Thank you. --Khampalak 02:00, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Xelha

Hi Bejnar. For reasons I outlined at talk:Xelha, I think it is better to separate out the material on the Maya archaeological site from the modern water theme park. Accordingly I've set up a separate article, Xel-Há Water Park, for the latter. I also moved Xel-Ha to Xelha as I find the archaeological site referred to without the hyphen more frequently in the literature.

As I also note on the talk page, the water park is a private commercial enterprise, and is not really a 'national park' in the formal sense. On the otherwise fine map Image:Coba-Xelha-Cozumel-Cancan-Map.jpg that I believe you contributed, it is marked as "Xel Ha Lagoon National Park", which does not seem to be correct- do you think you'd be able to change this description on a new version of that map? Regards, --cjllw ʘ TALK 12:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Bejnar (re your post at my talkpg). If it were a National Park, I would expect it to have been gazetted as such, but I can't find any mention of it at the CONANP site[1], or see its decree as one of the areas naturales protegidas listed at CONANP's Sistema de Informacion Geografica [2]. Mexican govt websites are usually pretty comprehensive, so its apparent omission indicates to me that it is not a NP, or at least is not one now.

As for that sentence, I was planning to redescribe the site's layout, so it's not that I have a problem with it, per se. Although, I think it most unlikely that the mural is a depiction of Tlaloc, who is a central Mexican not Maya deity- the sentence probably is intended to mean Chaak, but I was going to wait until I'd found a specific description in one of the archaeological papers before restoring/updating. Regards, (also posted at ur talkpg) --cjllw ʘ TALK 08:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

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re: Anoshirawan

Yes, Anoshirawan has been a nuisance on the Afghan Civil War and Democratic Republic of Afghanistan articles. His repeated insertion of the Greater Iran template on articles about the history of modern Afghanistan is clearly unjustified. He has provided no explanation for this, bar saying that "Afghanistan was created in the 19th century by the British", without giving any source for this unprecedented claim. I've reported him for violation of WP:3RR at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. Hopefully that will get him blocked for a short time, but clearly that's not enough. Making a Request For Comment seems to be the correct procedure, though I don't have much experience with these things... If you take it to RFC, you can count on my support. Regards. Raoulduke47 18:57, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you both for helping in resolving this matter. I have not handled the situation as well as I should. Anyhow, your efforts are greatly appreciated. I'm hoping that we can bring some much needed integrity to these articles. --Khampalak 19:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I would hold off on an RFC until we see if he continues. If he does continue though, RFC is the proper venue to take the issue. ~Rangeley (talk) 21:00, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

re: Durrani Empire

I can provide a better justification for using the History of Greater Iran template. However, I'll go by the concesus. Where is this concensus? --Behnam 21:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

What about the History of Iran? Where did this discussion take place? The History of Iran template is relevant at least.Hajji Piruz 23:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Beh-nam and Anoshirawan

I'm not sure how easily this problem is going to go away. Just about every article I've been trying to edit keeps getting reverted. The reverts are removing not only cited, verifiable information and corrections, but also restoring weakly sourced POV material aimed at slandering the subject(s) of the articles. This is a huge problem that's affecting most of the Afghanistan articles. I'm not sure how much longer I can continue, but it seems that these two individuals have devoted all of their time and effort to their misinformation campaign.

For an example, I'd direct you to the Mohammad Zahir Shah article.

--Khampalak 17:12, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

It's really no use. This RFC process is not going anywhere. Beh-nam is brutalizing the Zahir Shah article, seemingly out of spite. I give up. This isn't worth the effort anymore. Take care and thanks for helping fight the good fight. --Khampalak 05:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Henry Corbin

I would suggest to help out with inline referencing in the article and also getting rid of the many red links. STTW (talk) 10:37, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Atabegs of Azerbaijan

This is relevant to the history of Iran. The very name Atabegs of Azerbaijan comes from the name of the Iranian region of Azerbaijan. How could it not be relevant when the very name of the dynasty is Iranian.Hajji Piruz 16:42, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

That makes no sense. A) How do you judge which is more important, and B) the Azebaijan in the Caucasus wasnt even in existence until 1918, that template is merely titled History of Azerbaijan, but is more about the history of the region than anything.

Also, Greater Iran is a geographic title, it has nothing to do necessarily with Iran as a nation. Greater Iran encompasses a large region stretching from Iraq to Tajikistan. The template History of Greater Iran is supposed to be an easier way of dealing with history templates, because instead of having several on one page, just that one template is enough.Hajji Piruz 16:50, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

So yes, adding the History of Iran template is appropriate in any article that is about the history of Iran, such as the Atabegs of Azerbaijan.Hajji Piruz 17:01, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

No. See full discussion at User talk:Hajji Piruz#Atabegs of Azerbaijan. --Bejnar 17:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

So is the history of Iran. You are probably confused about the name Azerbaijan. The name Azerbaijan in "Atabegs of Azerbaijan" refers to Iranian Azerbaijan, not the country now known as Azerbaijan in the Caucasus.

He had possessed Azerbaijan (Iran), Arran, Shirvan, Djibal, Hamedan, Gilan, Mazandaran, Isfahan and Rei

In this case, Azerbaijan is talking about the Iranian region. See Arran (Republic of Azerbaijan) also. So in this case, the history of Iran template is relevant.Hajji Piruz 17:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

I know. Your trying to say that the history of Iran template [3] is not applicable and I'm saying that it is. So both templates should be shown because the Atabegs of Azerbaijan were just as much a part of Iranian history as the history of the republic of Azerbaijan.Hajji Piruz 18:33, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

This is where I get confused. I dont think you know which Azerbaijan we are talking about here. The majority of the territory of the Atabegs was in Iran:

He had possessed Azerbaijan (Iran), Arran, Shirvan, Djibal, Hamedan, Gilan, Mazandaran, Isfahan and Rei

The underlined ones are the territories that were in Iran. So how is the History of Azerbaijan more relevant than the History of Iran template? You are contradicting yourself. You are saying that the most relevant template should be used but at the same time your saying that the history of Iran template is not relevant...Hajji Piruz 19:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I get what your saying. Where are you from by the way? You know a lot about the region. Thanks for the talk.Hajji Piruz 21:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Thats very interesting. May I ask which country?Hajji Piruz 21:58, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Sefid River!!!

Hi,

About the move, thanks for your note. In fact, I tried to move it, but for some reason it did not work. I appreciate your comment.

However, I am stunned to hear that Sefid River is the correct version! It is definitely not. A simple comparison, like Google search for the former and the same for the latter shows this, even though the correct version of the latter should be like this to include all spellings. Another rule of thumb is that the -rud suffix is not used in its meaning in Persian, just like the city names: Behshahr is not transcribed as Beh city!!! Or like the mountain names: Alam Kuh is going to be rediculeous as Alam mountain or mount Alam!!!!

S I A M A X 19:06, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

re: Muhammad Zahir Shah

That is an article written by Pakistanis and ofcoarse will be pro-Zahir Shah. While a newspaper written by Canada will be neutral. With all due respect, anyone who lived in Afghanistan during those times are aware of Zahir Shah's oppressions of non-Pashtuns. The source you provided doesn't count since it is pro-Zahir Shah, please provide something neutral. --Behnam 18:37, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Who are these people that you've been speaking to? Again, provide some documentation of his oppression of Persian speakers and non-Pashtuns. This article should have absolutely nothing about politics. So how about checking your opinions at the door, and contributing information that is verifiable by the rest of us. We don't have access to these people who you claim exist. Produce something... human rights violations reports, anything. Lastly, if he oppressed speakers of Farsi, then he would have to have oppressed himself and his entire family. --Khampalak 19:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

How's this for objective and neutral:

I think you could use some of your own advice and stop trying to revise history. Everyone who lived in Afghanistan knows that Zahir Shah just like his father was an ethno-fascist. Just because you are from his family doesn't mean you need to cover this up. Regardless, its sourced right there and as long as that source is there that line cannot be removed. --Behnam 19:59, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Boggles the mind how this sort of thing has gone unchecked for so long. --Khampalak 20:19, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

• I don't mid sharing my talk page. The discussion is at Talk:Mohammed Zahir Shah#Claims of ethnocentrism and Talk:Mohammed Zahir Shah#Ethnocentrism ? for those of you following along. --Bejnar 20:53, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Louis Édouard Bureau

Good work, you might consider to nominate it for DYK. STTW (talk) 17:46, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Hiram I

Thanks for the citation regarding Hiram I and freemasonry. Theelf29 13:28, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

re: Template:reflist

Ok, thanks for letting me. Appreciate it. -- Behnam 16:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

MotorcycleUSA.com

I guess I never saw it. Sometimes people create the same article repeatedly with slightly different names every time, and only one gets tagged for speedy deletion. If our search function was a little bit better... Natalie 23:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

State geological article requests

Hi. I honestly expected wikipedia to have full detailed articles on Geology by state e.g Geology of California or Geology of Utah. I'm not even from the States but I had fully expected a detailed article on each state. Some of the American geological articles are very poor or non existent see Basic geologic features of each state. PLease could your project aim to start these articles and develop them. All the best and thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 13:05, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess -obviously geological landforms exist regardless of frontiers but I was also thinking in terms of soil composition , sediments etc. Surely there must be different forms in different parts. The article Geology of Minnesota is very good -perhaps because the creator is a geologist himself from the state. I guess it would be redundant for some state articles to have an article like this but I am certain more can be done. Why is the main Geology of the United States of America article quite basic? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 15:49, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Hotaki dynasty

Persian Cromwell is more reliable because it is written during that time and written by someone who was close with him. -- Behnam 19:50, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

The evidence is that Persian Cromwell is a work of fiction written in London. --Bejnar 16:46, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Reply

All the article was was a list of the top 10. There was no context, no response, so there wasn't anything TO merge. Unless, you wanted to clog the Rolling Stone page up with crufty lists. As well, Rolling Stone has done dozens of greatest lists over the years, so I fail to see why it was particularily notable. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 21:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

re: User:Anoshirawan

Well sorry for that allegation, but this was done before where a user who has a conflict with another makes an puppet account which he sets up as the user he has the conflict with. I was very upset when that happened last time because he was a great editor, it happened to user: Tajik. So I was a little paranoid of this happening again. Sorry for that. -- Behnam 22:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Mirwais Hotaki

Just a comment, you've changed his name from Mirwais to Mir Wais, despite other encyclopedia uses Mir Wais, the correct way to spell is Mirwais, as one word. See Mirwais Ahmadzai. Mirwais is a common name especially among Pashtuns and mostly all spell it with one word, regardless what the name actually stands for. thanks --Dilbar Jan 14:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Bryozoan

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hi

and where did you move it?? I couldn´t find it. But i left a text that mayne can bring some lghts on the issue.

Qurdratulla (mohammed bakir) was the name Mirwais´s father..or what do you think?? Turalai Khilji??