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Vasa (ship)

The Vasa is one of the oldest preserved warships in the world, and me and User:Peter Isotalo have been working on it to bring it to FAC, with GA (it is currently a candidate) as an intermediate goal. Feedback from the milhist experts here would be much appreciated on how to improve it further. henrik•talk 09:59, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kirill Lokshin

Very good article, overall; a few suggestions, though:

✓ The bulleted list in the "Armament" section may be better as prose or in a floated box of some sort.
There are some statistics in the "Ornamentation" section that need to be cited.
The "See also" section should be eliminated; if the terms can't be linked to sensibly in the article, they typically don't need to be linked at all.
✓ "Sources" should probably be "References".
✓ Some of the external links seem a bit questionable.

Kirill 18:16, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The See also-links are highly relevant to the topic at hand, namely naval warfare (especially that of the 17th century) and marine archaeology. Trying to work them into the article would needlessly burden the prose. I'm all for cleaning up link farms, but a mere five links doesn't exactly smack of excess.

Peter ^Isotalo 21:29, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, let's see:

Maritime archeology - could this be easily linked under, say, "marine archaeologists" in the lead.
Kronan - this, as the two other ship links, is a reasonable "see also"-type link; but I wonder if it might not be better off in a navigation template of some sort, given that all the ships will be interlinked this way.
Mary Rose
Batavia
Royal Swedish Navy - this definitely ought to be linked the first time the Swedish navy is mentioned.

Is any of that reasonable? Kirill 22:31, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments, they're much appreciated. I've taken the liberty of marking the suggestions that (hopefully) have been addressed with a ✓ the same way I saw User:Oberiko do. henrik•talk 21:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since when has there been consensus that "See also"-sections should be eliminated or that they can never repeat a link buried in prose? I've certainly heard the complaint before, but I just don't understand what the point would be when dealing with an example that has only a handful of both useful and relevant links.

Peter ^Isotalo 18:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 : Thanks for your comments, they're much appreciated. I've taken the liberty of marking the suggestions that (hopefully) have been addressed with a {{unicode|✓}} the same way I saw [[User:Oberiko]] do.  <strong>[[user:henrik|<font color="#B38F00">henrik</font>]]<small>•[[user talk:henrik|<font color="#AFA29F">talk</font>]]</small></strong> 21:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
+:Since when has there been consensus that "See also"-sections should be eliminated or that they can never repeat a link buried in prose? I've certainly heard the complaint before, but I just don't understand what the point would be when dealing with an example that has only a handful of both useful and relevant links.
+:[[User:Peter Isotalo|Peter]] <sup>[[User talk:Peter Isotalo|Isotalo]]</sup> 18:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)