Talk:Lacey Sturm

Jesse Lacey

Does anyone know if they're related? 74.110.101.98 01:41, 25 August 2007 (UTC)mandy9876

• Notice that Lacey is her first name, not her last name. They're not related. (Quetzal123 22:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC))

Table Thingy

I added the table thingy with her picture on it. I keep forgeting what that table's called can someone tell me. Thanx. Quetzal123 04:07, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Not sure myself, but I'm glad you added it :). AllAroundMe 15:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Her Height

I changed it because no one will take wikipedia seriously unless we convert from imperial to metric accurately. 59 x 2.54 = 149.86cm. 1cm off!!! OH NOES THE SHAME!!! Anyway I saved us all. 151 is now 150. U R A GR8 M8 18:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Conversion

I think she should be added to the Atheists who have converted to Christianity page. CharlieP216 18:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

wikified

I wikified the article, removed the cleanup tag and replaced with a citation tag. It looks better but more work is certainly needed. Also I stuck her height in the trivia section but do we really want to keep that in the article?? Eleigh33 21:35, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Very nice clean up. I think it's a good idea to keep her height there because so many wonder, she is very petite hehe.

Cleanup and cite

I am going to try to find some citations for the information in this article, but beware: anything uncited is getting deleted, especially info about her mental health and so on per the biography of living persons standards --Chuck Sirloin 15:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, I pretty much removed everything from the article, per WP:BLP. I will try to find time to dig up some verifiable sources and re-add some of the cited material. Feel free to help! --Chuck Sirloin 19:41, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Um..well, you can pretty much re-add everything, and cite FlyleafOnline. I'm pretty certain that's where the info came from, based on the fact that FO.com is a big, reliable source, where most of the information is found.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.251.62.24 (talk • contribs).

Is flyleafonline a reliable source? I have not had time to look at it myself, but before info from a website can be added, we have to make sure that it is reliable. Just because it is a fansite does not make it verifiable. Interviews from a magazine would be better. --Chuck Sirloin 17:47, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

It's definately a reliable source. I know most fan sites tend to go by opinion and what-not, but I've come to see this site going by fact. FO.com has lots of Flyleaf interviews, including video interviews.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.251.62.24 (talk • contribs).

Well, feel free to add things to the article with citations from from the various interviews. Also, you really should sign your posts by typing ~~~~ after them. --Chuck Sirloin 21:17, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Cool. Ya, I'm no Wiki expert yet lol :P I try, though Skankslapdisco 01:24, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

• This article smells bad - the writing is awful and not appropriate for wikipedia - it feels like a fan page. Can someone with knowledge of the subject help to clean this up? I suspect the article might need a complete re-write. Thanks, Hu Gadarn 03:29, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

If it feels like a fan page, feel free to edit it and make it more "professional". But please keep all this information in the article - it speaks frankly about this person and tells you a lot about her, which is the point. I haven't come across a single fan page with all this information (not including FlyleafOnline.com, I don't even really consider that a fan page. it's a great resource for the band in general) - I wrote this after listening to Lacey openly speak about her life. AllAroundMe 03:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Redirect

There is nothing on this page that isn't a repeat of info on Flyleaf so I am redirecting this page back there. Maybe if someone gets a real, cited bio that does not duplicate the info on the band, there could be an article, but right now I don't think it needs one. --Chuck Sirloin 19:56, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Yerp I believe she definately deserves an article, so I will actually try and get one going. And definately cited. I don't see why people want to add things without adding where they got it. I mean, I failed my term paper, too, but I cited works. Alright, I'm done making mockery :P AllAroundMe 00:23, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Alrighty

So I managed to get the page going again! This is my first article, don't kill me :P I'm totally clueless with the References section, I'm still working on figuring that out..feel free to fix it up, and other changes, additions or clean ups needed. I just wanted to get the basic idea of the article down. I hope it's alright. Cheers AllAroundMe 08:10, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I like what you did with the article. I fixed the references (for how to do footnotes see "how to use footnotes") and removed the flyleaf template which seem to be kind of jacked up. I will say that I am still not fully comfortable with using fansite references for topics like her alleged attempted suicide. I can't read the fansite right now, but I will check it later to see if it is verifiable enough to use as a source, otherwise we have to remove that info. --Chuck Sirloin 16:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Flyleafonline.com runs on 100% correct information. The band even listed them in the credits of their CD booklet. Flyleaf also has a blog on their MySpace page personally thanking FO.com for everything they do.

You can look up Lacey all over the Internet, especially on YouTube, where she talks very openly about her past and her drug use and suicidal behaviors.

oh, and to those notices on the page - everything here I typed out myself except for the obvious direct quotes of Lacey herself. I wrote it using the sources I listed. I also don't really see how this is "peacock" terms. AllAroundMe 03:50, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Bio

I'm not sure that such a personal conversion story really classifies as biography. I'm clearly not the one to rewrite it, but I'm not sure the specifics of a church service are really relevant.