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October 30

Semi-protect check

Hi, a new user is reporting he can't edit Tutankhamun which, he suggests, is because the page is semi-protected. There is no semi-protect icon on the page, but the edit history is suspiciously free of anon edits. Is there any way to confirm whether a page is protected? Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 00:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC) By the way, if it is, the page probably should remain protected and have a small icon on it. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 00:31, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

When I click the edit link I see the message above the edit window:

• "Note: This page has been semi-protected so that only established users can edit it."

I don't immediately see why no icon appears to indicate this status. --Teratornis 00:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Click "history" and then "View logs for this page" to get [1] which shows it's protected. You can also log out to confirm that you cannot edit it then. PrimeHunter 00:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

It's been semi-protected since December 2006! I suggest, rather than add the icon, we remove the protection. I'll take this to WP:RFPP. --barneca (talk) 00:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I strongly oppose unprotection, this would get tons of vandalism, as the talk page already does to a degree. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 00:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I tried to add this, but you beat me to it: Addendum: Unless, Jeff, you had a specific reason for saying you thought it should stay protected. Normally, we protect as a short term measure. Is there a specific reason (for example, something about the new user who talked to you abut this, or your past history with the article, or soemthing) you think it should stay that way? Otherwise, I'd suggest giving unprotection a chance. I won't go to WP:RFPP until I hear back.

So, even though I'm generally in favor of short term protection, I'll defer to your closer experience with the article, and won't go to WP:RFPP. --barneca (talk) 00:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

After many edit conflicts, my response has been covered. FYI i have listed it at WP:RFPP and have added the icon for the time-being, by using the {{pp-semi}} template. Note this does not semi-protect the page, it simply adds the icon. There has not been that much vandalism on the article, nor the talk page really. I count 4 in the past month, not enough to warrant its semi-protection in my opinion. We will see what an admin thinks, they might just try it and see. Woodym555 00:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

If an admin wants to unprotect to see what will happen they can go ahead, but how long do we have to wait before protecting again, and how many times do we have to go through this? Articles like this get tons of daily vandalism, junk, and test edits. I didn't comb through tut's edit history, but with my experience on article ancient Egypt, after each time the article was unprotected, the vandalism resumed. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 00:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I did have a look through the edit history and couldn't see that much, this is obviously influenced by the semi-protect. The trouble is we have to balance the need to protect against vandalism, with the need to build the encyclopedia. A lot of good edits are made by ips. We can't really make a judgement on Tutankhamun given the length of its protection. Woodym555 01:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I'll add it to my watchlist and try to keep an eye on it. --barneca (talk) 01:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

To answer the original question: the icon doesn't appear unless someone adds it to the page manually. The certain test for page protection status is to add ?action=protect at the end of the page's URL; for an administrator, this allows protection and unprotection of the page; for a non-administrator user, this shows the protection settings but they can't be changed. --ais523 18:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Meaning of life. What's the meaning of life? The meaning of life is to give/gift, as you were given/gifted to life. Edward Vu"

Meaning of life. "What's the meaning of life? The meaning of life is to give/gift, as you were given/gifted to life. Edward Vu"

How do I add that to Meaning of life page? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Onlypan (talk • contribs) 01:03, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Simply click the "edit this page" link at the top, and add it where appropriate. Please make sure that it is verifiable, and add a reference if possible. Regards, Neranei (talk) 01:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I see you have already added it earlier with no reference and it was removed. I didn't find anything about it with Google. Even if a reliable source exists, it may not be worth mentioning in the article, but you can suggest it at Talk:Meaning of life. If you are Edward Vu or close to him then see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. PrimeHunter 01:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Email link

Why do you not have a Send Email link in the toolbox options? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.238.209.13 (talk) 02:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

There is not a common place to send e-mails. Wikipedia articles are edited by a huge number of volunteers who usually discuss on Wikipedia pages. Do you want to contact somebody about something specific? PrimeHunter 02:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

• Send what email to who? You can email specific users if you both have email addresses listed in your preferences. As for sending someone articles, that has been shut off for performance reasons and because it could give someone serious spam influx. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

From editors removing email information, I guess it's a protective practice as well in terms of privacy.Julia Rossi 01:01, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

diarrehea for long period of time

my two year old granddaughter had diarrehea for the last two weeks she has not been given any kind of medicine to treat it. no diagnosis has been found nor has she been checked by the doctor Kathy Fagerstrom —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.74.44.214 (talk) 02:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but Wikipedia does not give medical advice. PrimeHunter 02:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

However, we can advise you to seek the advice of a medical professional, and that sounds like a situation that cries out for professional assessment.--Fuhghettaboutit 03:15, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Crush Popsicles

We live in Penticton, B.C., Canada and this summer we were buying boxes of popsicles that you froze and then ate. In the box were three flavors orange, lime and cream soda.

We are not kids, but adults and loved these popsicles. We are snowbirds and came to Yuma, Arizona, but before leaving home we went to our local Walmart to stock up to bring what we thought would be about 3 or 4 boxes with us, BUT they did not have any and told us they were just a summer item and kind of a loss leader. We were certainly disappointed.

Anyway we have been looking at the Walmart's in Yuma, Arizona and they do not have any of these popsicles either.

Unfortunately we do not have the box, but know that it had Crush on the outside.

The big question?? Where can we get these wonderful popsicles in Arizona or even in California?

We were be very happy if you could contact us.

Richard and Dorothy Calkins —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.160.3.36 (talk) 03:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

The help desk is here to answer questions on using Wikipedia. Sorry, but I don't think I can help with finding popsicles. You might have better luck doing a google search. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 03:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Is it discouraged from writing negative information on wikipedia?

I've studied the NPOV guidelines of Wikipedia. Is it discouraged from adding negative information, even if reliable sources are cited? Or must one always add positive information whenever negative information is added. For example, I added some information about crime in Lagos, Nigeria with citations from the BBC and the Economist Magazine (online). I could not find any references that say "Reports of crime in Lagos are all lies; the city is completely safe and carefree". I felt it would be original research and possibly untrue if I added "There's probably quite a few residents of the city who have never been robbed". I am not on an all out mission to add negative information. I also add positive information.Congolese 03:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not censored. Sourced information is fine, so long as it's added in a neutral way. Information on crime rates would be fine, so long as you don't give it undue weight. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 03:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes stats (and/or bare facts) are more interesting if you have a referenced comment interpreting them, such as trends, effects, social changes and comparisons with other kinds of crime in the city. You might like to check out articles such as Crime in the United States, Crime in Australia to get the feel of things. NPOV guidelines don't mean you have to deny facts, just keep them in neutral terms. Best, Julia Rossi 01:16, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

trying to find info

im looking to find what 3 diferant types of rear axles are on a gmc safari —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.78.100.227 (talk) 03:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

You could try asking the reference desk. The Help Desk is meant to answer questions on how to use wikipedia. (You could also check the GMC_Safari article). Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 03:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Blocking question

1,000 make-believe bonus points to anybody that explains the following to me: What's the difference between getting "blocked indefinitely" and getting "banned"? - Rjd0060 03:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

To the best of my knowledge, a ban represents a formal revocation of editing privileges. It could be applied to a topic, or the project in general (in which case it could be for a year (common ArbCom remedy) or indef (from Jimbo typically)). Also, a ban has to be decided by consensus, ArbCom, or Jimbo. Can I trade my points in for flyer-miles? --Bfigura ^(talk) 04:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

LOL. I've always wondered about that. Still kind of sounds the same anyways. Thanks! You can trade your points for anything you want. - Rjd0060 04:03, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the line gets a little fuzzy. Especially since according to the banning policy an indef block becomes a ban if no editor undoes it. (Which just begs the question at what point does the user go from indef blocked to banned?). --Bfigura ^(talk) 04:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I guess if a user catches the right peoples' attention (meaning Jimbo, or the ArbCom), then they do a formal hearing and call it a ban instead. - Rjd0060 04:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 October 7#Ban vs. Block for earlier explanations. PrimeHunter 04:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Seemingly invisible conversations in user talk pages.

Why are there questions/topics being started on user talk pages by other users but then there are only their own responses... seemingly responding to nothing? :-S Mentifisto 04:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes editors will post their replies on the questioner's talk page. (So each page gets 1/2 of the conversation). Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 05:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, okay, that's a bit weird and inconvenient especially for someone who wants to follow the conversations but thanks for clearing it up. Mentifisto 05:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

No problem. To avoid the confusion, some editors keep a copy of both questions and replies on their talk pages. (Ie, answer on other persons page, copy/paste back to own.) Or you could leave a note saying that you'll reply on your own page, and expect people to watchlist it. (Although that might not work with new editors). Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 05:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

• For the people involved, it does mean they get a "new messages" banner each time there is a response. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I definitely prefer it that way. My talk page has this image at the top, which basically sums up my feelings. GlassCobra 06:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Getting started

Hi, I am looking at adding a page to Wikipedia for Defence Reserves Support. I am currently undergoing their new website and have been authorised to transfer alot of the contect to Wikipedia. I have never added a page to Wikipedia before. Last week I tried and it looked good but this week it has disappeared. Could you please give me links or a descritpion on the basics for adding a page to wikipedia.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by D3adl1ne (talk • contribs) 05:39, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

You probably should read our policy on conflict of interest. Basically, many here feel that it's a bad idea to create a page about something that you're personally involved in. Further, in order to copy material from another source, you need to either post a link on the original website stating that you agree to license your content under the GFDL or directly email the foundation. (Otherwise, it'd be considered a copyright violation and possibly deleted). For more info on submitting copyrighted work to Wikipedia, see here. --Bfigura ^(talk) 05:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Further, unless it's notable, the information probably belongs in a short section under the article of the Defence forces in the country it belongs to. Otherwise it smells like promotional spirit. Julia Rossi 01:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I would like to note that I have received permission from the Department of Defence to transfer relevant information from the Defence Reserves Support website to Wikipedia to inform the public of their services to the Defence Reserves (which are not for sale or for promotional purposes). Defence Reserves Support DO NOT sell ANYTHING. They just provide support to the Defence Force. The Deaprtment of Defence, and myself think that this is useful infromation for the public to know and to be displayed on Wikipedia. Please let me know if there are any more concerns, or, if this acceptable, how I can make sure that the page content is not deleted if I am to create a page. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by D3adl1ne (talk • contribs) 03:27, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Editing ?

59.93.3.215 06:24, 30 October 2007 (UTC)If any body can edit and save articles in Wikipedia, how can we assure the reliability and accuracy of the articles?

As a matter of fact, we can't. That's why we've got so many people doing work around here and helping out, though. :) GlassCobra 06:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Replies to common objections. PrimeHunter 14:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia won't let me insert a new picture into a gallery

For over a year I have been contributing to the Terraced House site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraced_house that has a number of galleries of terraced (row) houses. I created the Brisbane gallery last year and am trying to update it with a new photograph of a famous terrace of Houses in Brisbane. Here's the gallery:

• 
  The Mansions, Brisbane CBD
• Harris Terrace, George Street
  Harris Terrace, George Street
• A mixed row in Normanby, Inner Brisbane
  A mixed row in Normanby, Inner Brisbane
• 
  Cook's Terrace overlooking the river in Milton
• 
  O'Keefe's Buildings Petrie Terrace
• 
  Petrie Terrace - on Petrie Terrace
• 
  Gregory Terrace Replicas 1988, Brisbane
• 
  Musgrave terraces, West End

The second item in the list (Harris Terrace) is the additional picture I am trying to insert. On previous occasions, on saving the page, there has been a message to the effect that there is no such image, so please upload one, which I have done. Now, instead of this message, the text "Harris_Terrace.jpg" appears where the photo should be, with the descriptive text "Harris Terrace, George Street" in its normal position. I also see that an American Contributor must be having the same problem (further down the page) with his picture of Elphreth's Alley in Philadelphia, which I know to be a famous street of row houses in the US. If you go to the edit page here and look at the code it looks correct, so what is going on here, please? --MichaelGG 07:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Harris Terrace.jpg apparently doesn't exist. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 07:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I know it doesn't exist, because I haven't uploaded it yet!! As I said above, on previous occasions when altering the gallery and saving it, I would be prompted to upload the file, which I have on my computer, but now it doesn't prompt me to upload. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelGG (talk • contribs) 07:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

• Then just go to Image:Harris_Terrace.jpg and upload it. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Yes, you are actually supposed to upload images before using them in an article. It's possible (I don't know) that the way the software behaves when a gallery tries to display a non-existing image has changed at some time. PrimeHunter 13:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

P&H alpha crane

P&H alpha crane —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.191.61.6 (talk) 07:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

mobile miner tunnel boring —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.191.61.6 (talk) 07:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a question? PrimeHunter 13:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

It is not a crane ..... It is a " Lift Craft "

searching of the date for the date of the ntsc exam

I want to know the date of the examination date of the ntsc exams. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.168.21.202 (talk) 09:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

• Please note the instructions at the top of this page. I'm not sure what you mean by NTSC anyway. Why don't you contact them directly? - Mgm|^(talk) 10:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Headings and thumbnailed pictures

this image is thumbnailed and floated to the right with the thumb|right option

I'm trying to place some pictures under headings underneath each other but the headings keep going near other headings and not underneath each heading with the pictures below... and the pictures stay where they should be bereft of the headings. How can I place headings underneath each other like they are when there's text under them? Mentifisto 09:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Two bits of markup may help, if you don't know them already. First, the 'thumb' option to an image, combined with 'left' or 'right', 'floats' it to the side of the page (like this example here), and allows text to flow round it.

Second, the {{-}} template causes the flow of text to move below any floated text or images; there's a {{-}} before this paragraph. This can be used to prevent images extending into the next section (although it does leave a gap; it's sometimes possible to fill the gap by writing more text).

See also Wikipedia:How to fix bunched up edit links, a different but related problem; some of the advice there may help too. Hope that helps! --ais523 12:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes it does, I didn't know about that {{-}} template, so now the headings are all set underneath each other... actually before you posted I thought that I had solved it in another manner... just by locating the images to 'none' and it worked when I previewed it but only because I had max two images under one heading (the other headings having only 1)... and I had to leave the first image on the 'left'... middle one on 'none'... but I want to place three images near each other under one heading in one row in 300px or less... but I can't and if I set them left, right, and center the center one will be set too far away from the left one and mysteriously the right one falls a bit down... how can I fix this? --Mentifisto 13:24, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

If you have lots of images, you may need to set them out in a table. --ais523 13:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Not lots... just three small ones (that easily fit on the page at 250px) on each row... --Mentifisto 13:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

NNDB considered reliable?

Is the NNDB (Notable Names Database) considered reliable for citations when it comes to biography articles? •97198 talk 11:12, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

No, I don't believe it is. It is unsourced and unverified information. Personally, I've found more than one error on it. Wildhartlivie 11:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

calorimeter search

I'm taking a chemistry class. We were given a problem about a "bomb calorimeter". When I search for "bomb calorimeter", I get nothing. When I search for "calorimeter", I get a listing that includes an entire section called "bomb calorimeter". Why does the search for "bomb calorimeter" not work ? 68.54.10.173 11:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

When I ran the search, it redirected me to a general page on calorimeters, which does contain the section you mentioned. You can't find a separate article for a "bomb calorimeter" because there is no article solely dedicated to that subject. For whatever reason, it may have been decided at some point that there wasn't enough information to warrant an entire encyclopedic article. There are several types contained under the general listing. Wildhartlivie 12:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

bomb calorimeter redirects to Calorimeter, so writing "bomb calorimeter" in the search box on every page and clicking Enter or the "Go" button takes you to Calorimeter. You can also click the "Search" button to find other articles containing "bomb calorimeter": [2] PrimeHunter 13:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Reverting vandalism

Could someone please tell me how one goes about reverting an article back to a revision that is more than one edit back? I've seen it done many times but can't figure out how to do so. Thanks. Wildhartlivie 11:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

You can use an addon, like Twinkle, or then read this: WP:Reverting. --Ilyushka88 11:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks much! Wildhartlivie 12:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Changes on American Airlines Page

I have made changes on American Airlines page because some of the information like coshared partners was wrong so I update it. When I check back the page, it went back to the same before I had update. Is there a way that I can update it so that it would not change again? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.27.179 (talk) 13:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Your edit was reverted by User:MilborneOne with an edit summary of "read the first sentence." I'm not sure what MilborneOne is talking about, and you might not either, but I'm not familiar with the article. Your best bet would be to ask him on his talk page. Leebo ^T/C 13:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

• Your changes didn't include any reliable sources to back them up so others are able to check their veracity. Providing the source where you got the information will probably give your edits more staying power. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

The revert [3] said "oneworld - please read first sentence". The first sentence in the edited part is "In addition to its oneworld, American Connection, and American Eagle partnerships, American Airlines offers frequent flier partnerships with the following airlines:". Without examining it, I guess the comment means that the reverted additions are part of oneworld and should therefore not be listed. PrimeHunter 13:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

That makes sense. Leebo ^T/C 13:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I made the revert as it looked like the Oneworld airlines were being added in - as PrimeHunter as quoted the first line "In addition to Oneworld..", if they were other changes to the list then I apologise, but please note that the paragraph is about frequent flier partnerships not codesharing. MilborneOne 14:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Lübeck Airport

The current text relating to the above uses the term "deceitful" regarding the use of the name "Hamburg". Lübeck Airport does not use the name Hamburg itself to market the airport but some airlines do. The proximity of Lübeck Airport to Hamburg and the surface connnections are superior to many European airports which identify themselves with their nearest city - e.g. Frankfurt Hahn which is further in time and distance from Frankfurt than Lübeck is from Hamburg. I consider therefore that the current Wikipedia listing is at least misleading, certainly unfounded and potentially defamatory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmwilson (talk • contribs) 15:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 15:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I've changed "deceitful" to "somewhat misleading", which seems a bit more neutral, but as I'm not familiar with the subject, I'll leave it to you and others to fix the rest. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 15:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleting my account

How do I delete my account? I can't find that option. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianaustin777 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Accounts can't be deleted, at least partly for copyright reasons. There's nothing to stop you just abandoning your account and never using it again, though. --ais523 16:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Due to the fact that Wikipedia content is licensed under the GFDL, all edits must be kept for attribution purposes, and so your account cannot be deleted. You do, however, have the right to vanish, which you can exercise by (1) requesting your user page (found at Special:Mypage) and/or user talk page (found at Special:Mytalk) be deleted, by adding the {{db-userreq}} template to them; (2) requesting to change your username to something that is unconnected with you (possibly a random collection of letters and numbers); (3) never logging in to your account again. If you do this, you are still free to register a new username if you wish to continue editing Wikipedia. Woodym555 16:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

There isn't really any point in vanishing if the user page and talk page were never created in the first place though, like in this situation; in this case, it would be equivalent to abandoning the account. If you really wanted to, you could change the username, I suppose, but that takes time as it has to be approved by bureaucrats and wouldn't make a whole lot of difference (as it would change nothing but the credit for the Help Desk question). --ais523 16:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

True, could have deleted contribs? The best option is to just abandon the account. Also he may want to change the account to prevent his real name being released (number 2 of the template). Woodym555 16:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

A name change for privacy reasons would be fine; the 'crats nearly always grant those. But that could happen whether or not vanishing happened at the same time. (And there are no deleted contribs, although it's kind of tricky for a non-admin to determine that without knowing how to query the API.) --ais523 16:27, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

As it is, i just checked and came up with 0. So the user has the requisite links if they want to do anything. I do hope you stay though and edit wikipedia. Thanks. Woodym555 16:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

School Template

Hi,

I've looked on WP:TEMPLATE but I still can't find a certain warning template. It is about a shared IP address at a place ofeducation such as a school which is placed on the user talk page. The template is something like {{???|School Name Here}}. Can anyone help me out?

Many Thanks, 81.157.118.95 17:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

{{SharedIPEdu}}. It's not a warning, but an informational template, which is probably why you couldn't find it. --ais523 17:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! 81.157.118.95 17:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Explain the use of { {

See http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template%3ADid_you_know%2FNext_update&diff=168112023&oldid=168111921

The previous version has an error where the user's page gets copied to the template page. See http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know/Next_update&oldid=168111921

Yet, the instructions on the page say to use two { so that the user's name and a link to user's talk page and link to contributions are displayed. Here are the instructions copied here for your convenience.... <div id="credits">This space is to credit the creators/nominators of the items in this Did you know/Next update template that in fact appear on the Main Page. If you replace or remove an item from the above template before it appears on the Main Page, make sure to re-add the hook to [[Template talk:Did you know]] at the '''correct date''' along with credits, and preferably add a note explaining why you did so. <!--Example: *[[Spoo]] - from January 1, {{user|Jimbo Wales}}, nominated by {{user|Willy on Wheels}}-->

Once again, using the above example, when I put user Jimbo Wales names in { , his user page gets copied, which is not what is desired. Only a link to user's talk page and link to user's contributions are desired.

Thanks. Archtransit 17:12, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Your problem here was adding {{user:Jimbo Wales}} instead of {{user|Jimbo Wales}}. Note the pipe instead of colon. {{ causes whatever is inside to be transcluded. {{user|Jimbo Wales}} causes the {{User}} template to be transcluded with the name "Jimbo Wales" as argument number one. {{user:Jimbo Wales}} causes the entire User:Jimbo Wales page to be transcluded. —Wknight94 (talk) 17:20, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The {{ notation 'trancludes' a page. Generally speaking, the only things that are transcluded are templates, which are specifically designed for this; for instance, to transclude Template:User, write {{user}}, which produces . Templates (and other transcluded pages, but in practice nearly always templates) can also take arguments, separated with vertical bars; for instance, it's possible to write {{user|ais523}} to produce ais523 (talk · contribs). You were using a colon instead of a vertical bar; so you were transcluding, not Template:User, but User:Jimbo Wales, a much longer page that isn't designed for transclusion. See the difference between {{user|ais523}} and {{user:ais523}} (vertical bar versus colon)? That's what was causing the problem. --ais523 17:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Templates can get fairly complicated. A good beginning lesson is at WP:TMP or Help:Template. —Wknight94 (talk) 17:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Wrong category:Packet (Sea Transport)

I created this category "Packet (Sea Transport)" and it was pointed out to me that "Sea Transport" should not be capitalised.

I created Category:Packet (sea transport) and transferred everything that I had put in Category:Packet (Sea Transport) to the correctly capitalised new category. How can I get Category:Packet (Sea Transport), which is now empty, deleted, please? --Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 17:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

If you create a page by mistake (such as in this case, where you created a category page with a typo in), and nobody has edited it since, place {{db-author}} on the page and an admin will delete it for you. --ais523 17:31, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

You can also tag an empty category with {{db-catempty}} after it has been empty for four days. In this situation, the category would have been speedy renamed, so you can tag it with {{db-c2}} immediately. For more information, see WP:CSD. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Cannot Change Wiki Skin

I was playing around with Preferences and modified my skin to be Nostalgia. Now I cannot change any preferences because the Save and Reset buttons on the Preferences pages are not active. Cleared cache, etc., nothing seems to work. I would really like to get back to the default skin - the Nostalgia one is horrid. IE 7. Thanks. (Sorry about forgetting to sign this.)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fizbin (talk • contribs) 17:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Use this link to bring up the preferences page in Monobook so you can change your settings back: //en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Preferences&useskin=monobook. --ais523 17:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Heh. I guess it's all what you're used to. I use Nostalgia all the time, and prefer it.  :) Corvus cornix 18:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Worked like a champ - thanks!--Fizbin 19:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Requesting an article

I tried going through all the hoops, but I am not even experienced enough to be called a Wikinovice. Could someone please explain to me how to request an article? I went through the whole page from the initial link, and got to political sciences, but never actually saw a "submit here" link. if one exists, where is it? thanks, cadeeshak

You edit the page (using the 'edit this page' link at the top or the '[edit]' link for the relevant section) and add the link the same way as the others in that section. --ais523 18:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

If you can't figure out how to add your article request to WP:AFC or WP:REQUEST, tell us the title of the article you want, right here on the Help desk, along with any reliable sources you know about for the topic, and someone else can request it, or (if the topic is notable enough) create it for you. You might want to try completing the tutorial first. --Teratornis 22:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Employer wants me to write an article for the company

Hi there. My employer wants me to write a wikipedia article for a website that the company has on the side. I've told him that this is against wikipedia's conflict of interest rules, that we have to wait for a fan to do it for us, but since it's not illegal, he's probably going to tell me to go ahead and do it anyway. My supervisor is a very smart man, but he's not an expert on the culture of the internet. For example, he didn't know what chatspeak was or that sock puppets are considered bad form.

Does wikipedia recommend any course of action? Is there anything I can show him, like deletion rates, that might be a bit more persuasive than, "Well it's frowned upon"? Is there a bias against second postings of deleted articles? If I tell my boss, "If I post this article and it gets deleted for violations, then it will be harder for real fans who try to write one later to get their version approved," then he might let me off.

If I am allowed to write the article, then what are my limits? I've read the conflict of interest policy and the business page, but I think the boss will probably want to hype the new side business as much as possible and might not be satisfied with a factual, encyclopedic tone.

Would it be bad form for us to ask our website's users if they would please write the article for us? Needplausibledeniability 18:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Which website are you referring to? Please note it must be notable, or the page may be deleted. — jacĸrм (talk) 18:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

There aren't firm rules about this. But yes, it's a bad idea for you to write about a subject you're that close to, and we don't like it when companies try to use Wikipedia as a marketing tool rather than as an encyclopedia. If the website has not gotten significant coverage by reliable sources, it's likely to be deleted, no matter who writes it. Also, understand that you put Wikipedia editors in a tricky position by asking for this kind of advice. Friday (talk) 18:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Be sure to read Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines. Corvus cornix 18:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

(ec) Also, remember that if you are employed by this company, you may have a conflicts of interest, also don't forget that Wikipedia articles are neutral, so it should not be promotional, however, I (and all the rest of us here at Wikipedia) encourage to create the article, as long it is inline with Wikipedia policies. Cheers, Qst 18:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion, we might become notable at a later date, but we aren't now. I don't think any newspapers or other sources meeting wikipedia's verifiability codes have covered us. I have included this in my explanation to my employer.

At present, I know all about tricky situations. If you guys don't feel comfortable telling me what to say to my boss, then how about something about wikipedia? Is there a bias against second postings? For example, if we post our own article and it's deleted for COI or notability, would it be harder for a fan to get a fan-written article past deletion later on? What about asking the fans to write it?Needplausibledeniability 18:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

No not really. We are interested in neutrally written articles about notable topics. If your page is deleted now and someone comes along and writes a page later , once notability has been established it will likely not even go to AFD. Your boss does realise that neutral means bad as well as good? Theresa Knott | The otter sank 19:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

If he doesn't now, he will once I explain it to him. Needplausibledeniability 19:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Aside from the many good reasons created above, there's also the possibly that some user might find it entertaining to turn a promotional article into a snark. While this is good for Wikipedia, it may not be what your boss has is mind. Bfigura ^(talk) 19:31, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

While Theresa, as usual, is correct, I must add that there is going to be an additional layer of suspicion if there is a history of spam/advertising articles being written to hype a particular company or website. We try to be neutral, but we're human (except the bots); and there's going to be that extra smidgeon of cynicism if a hype "article" is part of the topic's history. --Orange Mike 20:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me about snarking. I wouldn't have thought to look for that on my own. It is exactly the sort of thing that my boss would want to be informed about. Needplausibledeniability 20:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

... but the bottom line is - if your boss asks you to write the article, then write it - your job is more important that wikipedia. --Fredrick day 20:53, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Another option is to write your article on another wiki. Your boss might not know the difference; lots of people have heard of Wikipedia, but many do not realize Wikipedia is just one of thousands of wikis (albeit the most-visited one). For example, see: wikiindex:Wikicompany and wikiindex:Category:Business. Here is a link you can show your boss to illustrate how Wikipedia deletes up to several pages per minute. --Teratornis 22:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Write the article as a sub-page of your user page, and ask for comments after stating your own bias. After a bunch of folks work it over and agree that the subject is notable and adheres to guidelines, move it into mainspace. If the consensus of the editoprs is that the article is salvageable, you can show your boss what happened. -Arch dude 06:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Help please re: Space Shuttle Explorer article

Yesterday I moved two images in this small article into a gallery, because they were sandwiching text and clashing with the "See also" section. An editor reverted my edits, saying "galleries are tacky". I made those edits after reading Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Images which says "Avoid sandwiching text between two images facing each other." and "If there are too many images in a given article, consider using a gallery."

Now I am confused. If the article wasn't so small, I wouldn't have added the gallery, but are galleries considered tacky on Wikipedia? If so, why does the manual of style suggest them? Basil Richards 19:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

That is certainly that editors' opinion. I've reverted to the gallery version and added a note to his talk page. - Rjd0060 20:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

(ec) I had a look too, and I must admit, in this case, I think it looks better on the page with the gallery. However, I do think the TV trivia you added was unnecessary. I think the MOS advice is there to prevent having an images on the left and the right facing each other with the text squished in the centre, but I can see what you are getting at - having the two pictures one above the other with a thin line of text between them is also unattractive on the page. I suggest you try again, perhaps using the preview button to sort out the best places for the images without using a gallery (but remember that people use different browsers and screen widths). Astronaut 20:13, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me. I meant to re-remove that after reverting to the gallery version but I got distracted. I've removed it again. - Rjd0060 20:17, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the advice. I think the television special featuring the Space Shuttle vanishing illusion was more than just trivia, since the trick is possibly more well-known than the Space Shuttle Explorer replica itself, but I understand why it might not belong in the article, so I didn't mention it in my original question. Basil Richards 21:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

The neutrality of an article I submitted is being disputed, how do I resolve it?

The neutrality of an article I submitted is being disputed, how do I resolve it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.143.102.249 (talk) 20:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

User:Graeme Bartlett rejected the article because he felt it read like an advertisement. You could start by reading the neutral point of view policy and see Wikipedia:Spam for more information. Leebo ^T/C 20:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Password

I have an account and have put an email address in it. My username is Nero and I keep putting the corect password in but it won't let me log in. Why?

You probably typed in your email address incorrectly. Since User:Nero has no contribs, you can create another account, go to WP:USURP, and "usurp" the username Nero (i.e. change your username to Nero and have the existing account removed). NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 21:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried to have it send your password to you via the pasword reset tool? If however there's a typo in the email address, there's no way to recover the password. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 21:12, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

circular sourcing

What is Wikipedia's policy on sources that cite wikipedia as their primary source? Cryo921 21:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

That depends, are they citing the sources in another article, or the article itself? Circular sourcing isn't reliable, so citing another article that has no references would be bad. The best thing would be to cite the actual sources in the present article. (Ie, instead of article A referencing article B, it should reference books C, D, and E, which are cited in article B). For more details, see this section of policy. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 21:15, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

That's not what I mean. I mean for example if wikipedia cites source A but source A says it got most of its info from wikipedia. Cryo921 21:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

• No, that's not really reliable. Unless you can prove the fact you're trying to cite has to come from one of the other sources they're using because it wasn't in Wikipedia when they cited us. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:53, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

password

this is username nero again. I did not enter my username incorrectly. I even put an email adress on it but it says i didn't when i try to get it to send my password. I can't logg on and I know i entered the right password. I need help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.120.36.66 (talk) 21:20, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you have you caps lock on? Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Right I had a look at the usename logs User:Nero isn't there. Which ( I think) means it s a very old account from before the database crash several years ago. there is a nero 7 could that be you? Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:39, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Failing that there are loads it could be try this list to see if any ring a bell. Otherwise you simply have to create a new account I'm afraid. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

help

please can someone tell me what's wrong in this page, or if now does it satisfiy the notability guideline? [4] Please tell me it with simple words, I'm not very expert in Wikipedia. thanks--Carlons 21:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

As far as I can tell the complaint (other than notability) is that It was written by the subject of the article, which would mean that it may not be NPOV see Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cryo921 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I suggest you put the word "art" into "Italian movement" and maybe you can start an article on Medialismo which would be great for the 'pedia. Being about yourself, it's a vanity article not really acceptable in wikipedia. Notability means someone widely known and written about by others, basically. The whole thing would suit your userpage very well. Links for you: What wikipedia is not, Wikipedia:Autobiography, Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Hope this helps. Julia Rossi 03:04, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

sources

I am an academic and I would like to add sources to substanatiate existing articles that currently contain no citations. How do I do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.193.47.84 (talk) 21:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

see Wikipedia:Citing_sources Cryo921 22:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

and WP:FOOT and WP:CITET. --Teratornis 22:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

More basically, Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. You do not need anyones's permission: just do it. Be bold. Learn the basics of wiki syntax, click on the "edit" tab at the top or the "edit" link for a particular section, and add the references (as described on the pages linked above.) use the "preview" button on the edit page to make sure your new edits are OK, add an edit summary to describe what you have done (this is a separate box, not part of the change you are making to the article), and click the "submit" box. And thanks. Most new editors want to add content, but references are a lot more important. -Arch dude 02:00, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Meeting in Japan

description of the negative meaning in the other culture (specify the country) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.107.97.12 (talk) 22:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a question? If English is not your native language, you might want to see the Japanese Wikipedia. --Teratornis 22:12, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

This Doesn't seem to be about using Wikipedia so it would probably be better directed to Wikipedia:Reference_deskCryo921 22:15, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Moving a Section

I'm trying to clean up a section that has a large and massive specific example of a general theory within it. The topic has had some discussion and is deemed controversial by some...I'm not sure that I've seen the consensus that was achieved.

I'd like to just move the section into its own page and reference it within the main (general) article, including a paragraph explaining it.

How do I go about moving sections and starting them on new pages while maintaining the overall integrity of the original page?

--Ryandwayne 22:15, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

See: Wikipedia:Summary style. --Teratornis 22:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

First, whenever you split a section like that into its own article, make sure in the removal edit summary, you note where you are moving it to, with a link to the new page's name, and where you took the material from in your edit summary for the newly created page, with a link back to the page of origin. In that way you will be in compliance with the GFDL, and everyone will be informed of to where the material dissapeared so you'll be much less likely to be reverted for apparent "blanking." My question is, is the material sourced, or at least sourceable? If the former, that's good; be sure to import the sources. If the latter, it's not a great idea to create new unsourced articles. Consider moving it to the talk page of the article, noting your concerns that it doesn't fit/goes into too much detail, etc. If it's not clearly sourceable, consider simply deleting it noting that it isn't. If you are moving it, instead of making any overt reference to the move in the article proper, consider leaving behind a summary of the material with a hatnote such as {{main}} for the new article. That may be what you meant above when you said "including a paragraph explaining it," but I wasn't sure. With regard to the controversial aspect, this may not be relevant, but note two things: any negative material about living persons that is not well sourced with reliable sources should be removed with prejudice (see WP:BLP); controversial theories that do not have published sources are usually considered original research, which has no place here. Best of luck.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I guess you refer to Localism (politics)#Localism in Thailand. The article wasn't created with that but it makes the article look like a really bad coatrack - so bad that it might be added to the coatrack examples. Something should certainly be done but I'm not sure that section deserves a place anywhere. It has very serious WP:NPOV issues and there are probably (hopefully) better articles discussing Thai politics but I haven't looked. PrimeHunter 22:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the input. There was discussion on this topic but not much has been happening since the Spring...and I don't feel like consensus was reached. I do think that the section is out of whack for the topic and doesn't belong. As for it's NPOV, I can't say. It uses references, but I know nothing about Thai politics, which seem very contentious. This is why I'd like to move it to its own section so that its NPOV can be discussed while the main article receives attention it deserves. And actually, on the talk page people are discussing the topic and an unsigned person jumps in as if it were a Thai specific topic. Actually, looking at the whole talk page, only unsigned people debate or more berate about the Thai localism as a topic...which they are thinking of as a sufficiency economy. This is making me rethink moving and instead deleting the section. --Ryandwayne 14:52, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

You could ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Southeast Asia whether somebody want to use the material for an article about Thailand (which doesn't have its own wikiproject). If it's removed first then you can give a link to the last version it was in. PrimeHunter 18:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Article on open source software

So,

I have a question on a page I created which was deleted. The page was en.wikipedia.org/wiki/magento .

Now, I had seen other articles on osCommerce, the Apache HTTP Server, MySQL , and many other widely available FREE softwares on this site, and I thought it would be helpful to include a new one as open-source software is becoming very prevalent.

So I put the article up and it was flagged as advertising. I thought this was incorrect, because one there is nothing for sale, it is FREE open source software, and 2, it was similar to these other articles.

So then it was deleted, only instead of it being because of advertising, it says it was not notable. I guess it could have concentrated more on how it is notable because it is an improvement over existing solutions, but that was not originally the reason given for deletion and kind of came out of left field.

As far as I can see, either the oscommerce, apache and mysql articles should be deleted also ( I don't agree with this) or this one shouldn't have been. Can you shed any more light on this?

Thanks, Cm32107 23:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Articles that fail to meet certain basic guidelines may be deleted at any time under the speedy deletion policy. In this case, the article was deleted for failing the notability guideline. The other articles you mention (mySQL, Apache) don't appear to fail the notability guideline, so they haven't been (and shouldn't be) deleted. However, even if there were other articles that failed the guideline, the fact that other articles don't meet a particular policy isn't an excuse to ignore that policy. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 00:46, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I understand that, but wouldn't the fact that it is a competitor to another open source program, oscommerce, which is considered notable, and is also considered an improvement on such, as cited in third-party references, make this notable as well? I'm really trying to fall under the guidelines, but I thought I had made a good article and this is why I'm a bit confused.

Simply being a competitor to a notable software package does not make the competitor notable. How many thousands of text-editors/word processors compete with MS Word or Wordperfect? Also, simply because something is free does not make it immune from the "reads like an advertisement" deletion reasoning. If the tone is overly promotional, that's grounds for deletion as spam.

Basically you need to show, through verifiable sources that that software is notable on its own merits. -- 68.156.149.62 16:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Hurricane Katrina

The article on Hurricane Katrina is closed for editing, I have information on the impacts of hurricane katrina that I would like to upload should I email it to you? 84.65.9.50 23:39, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

You can put it in the talk page of the article. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 23:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually scrap that. I've unprotected the article. You should be able to directly edit it. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 23:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

October 31

When the section "does not exist"

What is happening when I click on a section to add a comment and the page comes up saying, "Section # does not exist" when it still reads on the help desk page, please?Julia Rossi 02:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Which section are you mentioning? --Silver Edge 02:32, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Reload the page and click edit again. Some of the page was archived 45 minutes ago.[5] If you loaded the page before it was archived but clicked edit after it was archived then you may have hit a high section number which no longer existed. PrimeHunter 02:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

You may also want to purge the cache before trying again as that may help. --Hdt83 ^Chat 02:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

It was the "help" one above – cleared cache and all's now good, thanks to everyone for helping. Julia Rossi 02:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Paragraph break in navbox

In the navbox in Pierce Brosnan#Filmography (source), there is a paragraph break after the first and before the last item. Any ideas why that happens? (It does not happen if I paste the navbox body as a normal paragraph into the Wikipedia:Sandbox.) -- Ddxc 08:12, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Fixed.[6] See Template:Navbox#Mandatory. PrimeHunter 13:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

additions i made to aig on wikepedia

I made a series of additions to the site that discusses AIG, you have not posted my additions and apparently are telling me you will not. I do not understand why. I thought your site was free and open as long as the information is true and accurate and the information you have on there now is far from an accurate picture of what aig is. I also wasted a lot of time only to have you not do this addition or tell me what you want deleted (so where is the freedom here is the usa?).193.214.59.154 12:01, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

You failed to provide Reliable sources documenting your comments.12:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geni (talk • contribs)

You need to substantiate your claims (which were quite harsh) with reliable sources. Also, all information must be written in a neutral way, whether it's positive or negative. The article shouldn't take a stance on whether what AIG does is right or wrong, it should simply explain what they've done and what happened as a result. Lastly, you mentioned "so where is the freedom in the usa?" The English Wikipedia is not a soapbox for you to vent about the subject of an article. Unmoderated free speech doesn't exist on Wikipedia; all information must be verifiable. Truth is not what counts, verifiability is what counts. Leebo ^T/C 12:47, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Change UserName

Hi,

  i want to change my UserName.
  Do i need to delete my current account and then create a new one.
  Or
  Will u do it for me.
  
  If i need to delete my current account what is the procedure.

Thanks & Regards Imran Quazi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.210.12.141 (talk) 13:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

You can change your username at WP:CHU. x42bn6 Talk Mess 13:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Accounts cannot be deleted but see Wikipedia:Right to vanish. And see Wikipedia:Changing username. We cannot say whether you qualify without knowing your user name. PrimeHunter 13:45, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Redirects and Disambig

Hi,

I cannot find a clear "policy" on disambiguation vs. redirects.

My "problem" is probably a minor example, but I suspect there is a principle involved here. Here is my example:

There was (is) a redirect from Jog to Jogging.

I changed this to a disambiguation page as JOG is what the "Juniour Offshore Group" is commonly known as. (someone else also added another link to Jog falls)

Somone - who seems more "expert" than I - changed it back to the original re-direct. He stated that JOG was more commonly used to mean jogging.

I understand his point, but surely encyclopedia should be comprehensive and contain the unusual/less well known, rather than just show popular subjects?

I feel adding a link to "Jog (Disabiguation)" (as I have seen elsewhere) in the Jogging page would be inapropriate. A there is no physical "Jog" page it can't be put anywhere.

What should I do?

I am not over worried about my example but am sure this kind of thing must come up. I hope this is the right plase to ask.

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Martin Dixon (talk • contribs) 15:20, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

You can place something like this at the top of Jogging:

{{Redirect3|Jog|It may also refer to [[Junior Offshore Group]]}}

which renders as

"Jog" redirects here. It may also refer to Junior Offshore Group.

PrimeHunter 16:29, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

And people entering JOG with capitals are unlikely to search for jogging, so you can redirect it to Junior Offshore Group. PrimeHunter 16:32, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Inappropriate critical remarks about the IEEE

Dear folks at Wikepedia,

I write to request that an article posted by a certain D.J. Bernstein be removed from Wikepedia pages describing the IEEE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE#_note-9). The document, entitled "Don't publish with IEEE!" and archived as IEEE Criticism.doc, is a polemic that is quite misleading. The article does not appear to be well-aligned with the goals and policies of objectivity of Wikepedia. It implies that the IEEE does not respect authors' rights to post their own writing in publicly accessible places, but this is not at all true. (See http://www.ieee.org/web/publications/rights/policies.html 8.1.9.D Personal Servers.) The IEEE is in fact very generous in allowing author's reuse of IEEE copyrighted material and has been recognized as such by the Open Access community.

Thank you.

John Baillieul Boston University and Vice President Publications Services and Products, IEEE johnb@bu.edu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.174.90.150 (talk) 15:23, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

The reference should stay, because it is being used as verification that criticism has been made against the IEEE. The IEEE article isn't saying that such criticism is true or valid, it's only saying it exists. To remove it would violate the neutral point of view policy. The sentence that is being referenced could probably be rewritten to be more neutral, but the reference is just an example of criticism not an indication that Wikipedia condones such criticism. Leebo ^T/C 15:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree it should stay. The author D.J. Bernstein is notable and I have linked him in the reference so readers can see who he is. Maybe his full text wouldn't be considered suitable in a Wikipedia article but referencing it shortly is OK. PrimeHunter 16:20, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

And of course the anonymous editor claiming to be John Baillieul should be aware of our policies on conflict of interest. --Orange Mike 18:15, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Just so there is no misunderstanding, I had no intention of being anonymous (hence my name and e-mail). This was actually posted by John Baillieul---whose wikipedia handle is somewhat uncreatively not much different from his name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnbaillieul (talk • contribs) 00:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Alphabetising by last name, not first

I wrote an article about a person, and he is being put into alphabetical lists by his first name which starts with "N" rather than his last name, which starts with "B." How do I change this? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pbsolomon (talk • contribs) 16:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Category#Default sort key. PrimeHunter 16:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

ref|corruption

I found this in an article: { { ref|corruption } }. What does it mean? (I put in spaces between the {{ so you can see what I mean.) Lova Falk 18:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

It's a footnote, created using Template:Ref, to a reference already labeled "corruption" within that article for the purpose of not having to type out the whole citation again. Leebo ^T/C 18:28, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

It's a footnote you broke in this edit by deleting the notes section. PrimeHunter 18:46, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Editing others´ articles

Hi, yesterday I edited an article on Wikipedia (the Puddle Jumper article and the Atlantis (Stargate) article) by adding a little information, mostly size measurements I took by careful approximation from hi-res captions of the show. With everything I posted, I added it was an approximation/personal hypothesis and not verified. I didn´t ask or notify anyone. All the changes got deleted in under 24 hours. Why? I´m not accusing, rather, as I don´t usually contribute, I´d like to know what one has to do for their additions in someone else´s article to hold. (Assuming the additions are probably just as valid as the original text - this particular article has no way to be verified on many points, there is very little canon for the show. All that´s verifiable is usually the description and things explicitly stated in the show, which aren´t many, not in the details.) Thanks 89.102.236.64 18:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

You don't have to do anything in order for your edits to hold. If they are good, constructive edits, then they should stay. If your edits were identified as vandalism or taking another unconstructive form with regards to the article's appearance and content, then they'll have been removed, either by another user on Wikipedia, or by an automated Bot. If you were definate your edits were not vandalism, please provide links to the pages you edited and we'll look into the situation for you. :-) Lradrama 18:23, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Your 4 edits to Puddle Jumper have not been undone.[7] Maybe you have to bypass your cache to see them. PrimeHunter 18:27, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, your edits have been kept regarding the article above brought up by PrimeHunter. Do you know how to clear your cache? (Ctrl + F5). See if that works for you. :-) Lradrama 18:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to mention that you weren't editing "someone else's article": individual editors do not own articles. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 01:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Re-titling page

I have created a new page entitled Charles Lynch (disambiguation). I would like to rename this page "Charles Lynch". However, that title has already been taken by an article which I have now moved to Charles Lynch (18th century American judge). None of the articles to which the disambiguation page refers appears to have precedence and it would make sense for the basic title to apply to the disambiguation page.

Is this possible?

Jim Bruce 20:16, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

You would need to establish consensus that this move is required, as only administrators can move pages over another page, and then ask an administrator for assistance or use {{db-move}} SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 20:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure how to establish a consensus. The article "Charles Lynch", which I have moved, is a stub with very little editing history. I could place a message on the Talk Page, but who would read it? Jim Bruce 20:41, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

You don't need a consensus discussion for this uncontroversial move. Redirect Charles Lynch to Charles Lynch (disambiguation) and then place {{db-move|Charles Lynch (disambiguation)}} on the redirect at Charles Lynch. An administrator will then make the move. PrimeHunter 20:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Looking more closely at the pages, it does not appear to be a controversial move. I think using {{db-move}} would work here, and the copy paste move on Charles Lynch should be reverted. SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 20:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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I decided to be bold. If I did wrong I'm sure someone will tell me. Charles Lynch was just a redirect to Charles Lynch (18th century American judge) so I copied the contents of Charles Lynch (disambiguation) onto Charles Lynch. It seems a reasonable result and simpler than deleting the Charles Lynch and then moving Charles Lynch (disambiguation) on top of it. Now Jim Bruce can delete the Charles Lynch (disambiguation) page.

Okay, I'll revert my copy/paste. Sbowers3 21:00, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikilinks coloured

Is anyone competent with parser functions here. I have a template, Template:Football manager history, working correctly at the moment. I have changed something in my sandbox: User:Woodym555/Manager template to add in an optional parameter for a wikilink. yet i cannot get the wikilink to change colour to reflect the title of the navbox. Any help would be appreciated or direction to a template expert. Thanks. Woodym555 20:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Anyone? Oh well. Woodym555 23:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

It has been sorted now. Thanks. Woodym555 00:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I NEED A NEW PASSWORD URGENTLY

I'm Rory666's IP. This is the e-mail address that I will use to get a new password: dalleyrobinson [at] unwired [dot] com [dot] au Is that alright. I need the user's password. HELP ME!--220.101.18.50 20:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you have any evidence that you are this user? SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 20:28, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

If you didn't register that email address with the account, there's not really anything that can be done. Leebo ^T/C 20:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

And, if you did register the address, you can click the "E-mail new password" button on the Login page. --barneca (talk) 20:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Displaying IPA symbols and foreign alphabets, abugidas, etc. correctly

Despite having enabled language support in relevant languages, Latin, Cyrilic and others, etc. in Windows XP I find I am having continuing problems with correct display of some symbols; in Wiki I find these are frequently replaced by an open 'box' symbol. I have asked a question related to this before, and tried to overcome the problem by installing Unicode, but have never managed to completely resolve the difficulty. I need a technical fix for a 'non-techie'! Geoff Powers 20:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Creating personal templates for archives and everything else

Hi everyone;

Is it possible to create a template in the name space that would only be used on my own talk page, in order to de-clutter it when it comes to someone editing it? For instance, could I create a template to contain the template (can templates go in templates?) or contents of my archivebox and use that on my page, so I don't have to have hundreds of individual characters that editors must scroll past when asking a question or making a comment? Also, if possible, how would I format the name because I usually see templates and infoboxes in the template namespace. Reply here and leave a note on my talk page so I don't overlook it. Many thanks! Charles 21:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

You could create a template in your user namespace. For example, I used User:NASCAR Fan24/StatusBar to display my status, until it screwed up my userpage. Templates to be used in userspace are generally created in userspace (though some older userboxes were in the template namespace, that is now discouraged). And yes, you can have a template in a template. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 21:29, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Awesome! What about for my userboxes though? Some of them add me to a category. What would I add to the template to make my page go into the category and not the template page? Charles 21:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Template#Noinclude and includeonly. PrimeHunter 22:15, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This is still a little confusing because if I put my userboxes on another page, the includeonly on the userbox templates that would put my page in the category would instead put my new template page containing my userboxes in that category, right? So, having a template in a template... If the daughter templates have includeonly for categories but are in the parent template, what do I do to the parent template to have that apply to my page? Charles 22:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Related note

I now have a template (subpage of my talk page titled Intro) on my talk page which contains a collapsible archive template (subpage of my talk page titled Archives). I don't know how to create a collapsible template for my archives where I can specify the colours as I did for the Intro. Charles 23:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

{{reqphoto}} template

I added a photo to Glenariff Forest Park which has {{reqphoto}} on the talk page. Can I now remove the template? I also noticed when going through the Category:Wikipedia requested photographs that a lot of articles with this template already have photos (and the templates don't specify what additional photos are requested). The talk pages are often very inactive, so I'm not sure asking for clarification would be fruitful, so should the templates be removed? It's a pretty big category. I've checked the template's instructions and talk page, but couldn't see anything about this. Thanks --Kateshortforbob 21:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

It's really up to you, but I would probably remove the template myself. You've provided a picture satisfying to the article (and a pretty good picture too), and I don't see how more pictures would help at all. Like I said, it's up to you to decide. Remember, be bold! Malinaccier (talk • contribs • count) 22:27, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the quick response. I've made a list of pictures to take from that category, and I wanted to make sure I wouldn't be screwing up! --Kateshortforbob 23:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

american presidency

We have a question regarding us presidential candidates if a former president sits out a couple of terms such as clinton for example is he allowed to run as president again . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.167.236.87 (talk) 21:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. (But as long as the person did not already hold two terms, yes they can run again, just as Grover Cleveland did, (who served as President from 1885-1889 and from 1893-1897) ). Ariel♥Gold 21:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

See Twenty-second Amendment to the United States Constitution. PrimeHunter 22:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Blocked IP addresses

People at my school have been vandalizing, and the IP address is bordering on being blocked. If it is blocked, will I be able to edit as a registered user from that IP address? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omnipotence407 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, my school's IP is blocked, but I regularly edit from it on a registered account. I would suggest creating a sock for public computer use, in case the password is stolen. Malinaccier (talk • contribs • count) 22:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

New Articles

Hi. I'm a new user named silvasdfj (I was trying to find a name that no one was using, so sorry for the inconveinence). I just created my account and I was wondering how I can create a new article. Please let me know as soon as you can. Thanks. --silvasdfj October 31, 2007 7:01 PM —Preceding unsigned comment added by Silvlasdfj (talk • contribs) 23:01, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Starting a new page for details on starting an article. Note that the subject or topic you are writing about must be notable and verifiable. --Hdt83 ^Chat 23:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Please Help

I would like to note that I have received permission from the Department of Defence to transfer relevant information from the Defence Reserves Support website to Wikipedia to inform the public of their services to the Defence Reserves (which are not for sale or for promotional purposes). Defence Reserves Support DO NOT sell ANYTHING. They just provide support to the Defence Force. The Deaprtment of Defence, and myself think that this is useful infromation for the public to know and to be displayed on Wikipedia. Please let me know if there are any more concerns, or, if this is acceptable, how I can make sure that the page content is not deleted again if I am to create a page. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by D3adl1ne (talk • contribs) 23:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

If you're talking about new articles, it cannot be copied from another site unless the site has a license compatible with Wikipedia's GFDL license. Also, it must meet Wikipedia's requirements for notability, reliable, independent sources, and verifiability; it also must be encyclopedic, not simply promoting the subject. If you're talking about images, Wikipedia can only accept images that are public domain, under a free license, with a copyright owned by the person uploading the image, or usable under fair use. See Wikipedia:Image use policy. Another page you might want to look at is Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, as adding this content might be a bad idea if you're editing for the Defense Department. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 01:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, this is from Getting started which you asked for help about (above) –

You probably should read our policy on conflict of interest. Basically, many here feel that it's a bad idea to create a page about something that you're personally involved in. Further, in order to copy material from another source, you need to either post a link on the original website stating that you agree to license your content under the GFDL or directly email the foundation. (Otherwise, it'd be considered a copyright violation and possibly deleted). For more info on submitting copyrighted work to Wikipedia, see here. --Bfigura (talk) 05:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Further, unless it's notable, the information probably belongs in a short section under the article of the Defence forces in the country it belongs to. Otherwise it smells like promotional spirit. Julia Rossi 01:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC) – please try to understand the policy of wikipedia when they are explained to you even if your boss is telling you what to do. Julia Rossi 08:05, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

= My Life

when i was four years old i started in junior marines and in 1992 i was getting ready to go to desert storm as a Major and commander of special operations Task force of 4th infantry 12th division of the northern and central command center in southern Iraq. on july 12,1993 to august 1,1994 we was persioners of war. by the time i got back i was a major General. i stayed home from 1994 to 1999 as a Major General of junior marines and as commander of joint chiefs of staff to all junior military divisions of the junior Marines and President Clinton pointed me chairman of joint chiefs of staff to all junior military divisions on june 15,1999 to january 20,2001. i worked for the pengaton as chief commander of 19th infantry division of operations task forces to the Middle east to june 15,2002 when i retired from junior marines i was given my third star making me a three star Lt General spet on Monday the 23 of March i was given my fourth star making me now be a four star General and for the last seven years i have bin the deputy director of the department of CDA and on february 19,2009 my director and his wife was killed in there home making me the acting director to monday the 23 of march when my job closed down.

My Life in office

i was elected to the U.S. peoples House of representatives from 10th district of Texas in november 4,2008. i am the speaker now spet i was the Majority leader for six years and Majority whip for four years and i am chairman of six committees and chairman of four subcommittees and i am a ranking member of six committees and a ranking member of two subcommittees. i was secretary of Immigration reform and urban affairs from june 21,2007 to june 9,2008.

Editing inaccurate and promotional information in the Medical Tourism article

Since I am involved in the medical tourism industry I did not want to appear to have a conflict of interest by editing the Medical Tourism Article. I posted concerns on the article discussion page along with links to references hoping they would be addressed. Thus far they have not. Below are my concerns. How can I get these concerns addressed?

1. Since I am health care professional and involved in the industry, I will not edit this article. I do hope the administrators will take note of what follows and act accordingly. The following statement placed in the article appears to lack neutrality and appears to be more commercial puffery than factual. "While the tourism component might be a big draw for some Southeast Asia countries that focus on simple procedures, India is positioning itself the primary medical destination for the most complex medical procedures in the world. India's commitment to this is demonstrated with a growing number of hospitals that are attaining the U.S. Joint Commission International accreditation to help to capture the US medical tourism market, while others looking beyond just the US market to potential clients from the United Kingdom, Europe and Australia may also look towards other international healthcare accreditation schemes for brand advantage." In fact the primary medical tourism destinations in Southeast Asia, Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore all perform complex procedures and are competent to do so. Singapore for example is home to Dr. K.C. Tan one of the world's best liver transplant specialists (http://www.mb.com.ph/issues/2006/03/06/WLBG2006030657679.html). In Thailand Bumrungrad, Bangkok Hospital and Samitivej Sukhumvit all have accreditation by the US based Joint Commission International Program (http://www.jointcommissioninternational.com/23218/iortiz/). Singapore has 14 JCI accredited hospitals. Additionally Bumrungrad Hospital was selected by Blue Cross Blue Shield of South Carolina, an American Health insurance company as the first non-US hospital to be accepted into its network of providers (http://www.bcbs.com/news/plans/bluecross-blueshield-and.html). To say that the focus of some Southeast Asian countries involved in medical tourism is, "simple procedures" is not factual. All of the countries actively involved in medical tourism offer a broad spectrum of competencies as evidenced by JCI accredditation and in one instance accreditation by BCBS of South Carolina. To claim otherwise merely serves to degrade the reputation of the facilities in that region

2. The following additions also appear to be more commercial puffery. Both organizations are newly founded and aside from their own press releases are not recognized authorities on health tourism as they suggest. While they may become independently recognized as neutral sources for information in the future, that is not currently the case.

"The Society for International Healthcare Accreditation, or SOFIHA, is a free-to-join group providing a forum for discussion and for the sharing of ideas and good practice by providers of international healthcare accreditation and users of the same - the primary role of this organisation is to promote a safe hospital environment for patients, wherever they travel to in the world for health care."

"HealthCare Tourism International, or HTI, is the first U.S.- based non-profit organization to accredit the non-clinical aspects of health tourism such as language issues, business practices and false or misleading advertising prevention. The group has accreditation for all the major groups involved in the health tourism industry from hotels, to recover facilities to medical tourism booking agencies, etc. NYerkes 05:18, 31 October 2007 (UTC)"

3. The Following addition appears to have been placed with the intent of disparaging Thailand rather than offering objective neutral information. "However, there is indisputably a major HIV/AIDS problem in Thailand, as acknowledged by the World Health Organisation [17] and dengue is becoming increasingly common." The linked report is dated material published in 2001. Other countries mentioned in the 2001 WHO report that are also medical tourism destinations are not mentioned. No mention is made of Thailand's HIV prevention treatment program being suggested as a model for other countries (http://www.kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/rep_index.cfm?DR_ID=39235. Further, the addition of the information about HIV serves no purpose in the context of this article. HIV is not airborne nor is it spread via vectors. Thailand's hospitals practice Universal Precautions which makes nosocomial transmission highly unlikely. Regarding dengue fever, it common in Southeast Asia and the Western Pacific countries (http://www.who.int/features/qa/54/en/index.html. Again, no other countries offering medical tourism were singled out for inclusion of this information despite some having a higher incidence of dengue fever than Thailand. There is no suggestion by the WHO that Thailand is experiencing an increase in the number of cases of dengue fever. Thailand is not mentioned by the WHO in reports on major Dengue Fever outbreaks (http://www.who.int/csr/don/archive/disease/dengue_haemorrhagic_fever/en/index.html). Thailand has not been associated with major outbreaks of Dengue fever unlike some of the other medical tourism destinations (http://www.cdc.gov/NCIDOD/DVBID/DENGUE/)

4. The insertion of the line "Dubious given that Rockefeller was in Thailand from the early 1920's and Mahidol was a low-ranked royal, not in Thailand most of the time]." It is an expression of opinion and is not supported by the facts. "During the first period of his residence at Harvard, Prince Mahidol also negotiated and concluded, on behalf of the Royal Thai Government, an agreement with the Rockefeller Foundation on assistance for medical and nursing education in Thailand." (see http://kanchanapisek.or.th/pmaf/complete-biography.en.php). Mahidol was not a low ranking royal as suggested. He was the youngest son of King Chulalongkorn (Rama V). His two male children, one of whom is the present monarch, would become kings of Thailand. In 1921 Prince Mahidol was appointed Director-General of the University Department, Ministry of Education giving him considerable authority to implement the improvement of Thailand's medical education system.

Are the links to the information insufficient or do I need to do something additional? Thanks NYerkes 03:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Even though you don't want to edit the content of the article yourself, it would not be at all inappropriate for you to add tags to statements or sections of the article. E.g. you might add {{fact}} or {{NPOV}} tags. Sbowers3 12:09, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

If I were in your shoes, I'd declare my interest then go ahead and edit the article. Being in the industry is not the same as person X editing his own article or company Y's PR department editing its article (and we have plenty of those things going on). If your edits prove controversial, then that's what the talk page and dispute resolution are for. AndyJones 19:56, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

There's a difference between being knowledgeable in a field and having an agenda. Julia Rossi 23:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

To NYerkes: I agree whole-heartedly with some of your points, but not with some of the others you make. This particular article, "Medical Tourism", is problematic in view of the great commercial importance of medical tourism (and its huge potential) in some parts of the world, including Thailand - as a person born and brought up in the USA, I would assume you are well familiar with commerciality in medicine and healthcare, and in many of the countries included within this article they are doing exactly that - being commercial ! However, we all know that the whole world does not revolve around the USA - for example, JCI/JHACO is not the only decent hospital accreditation system in the world - although it is probably the best marketed scheme - and some of the other accreditation groups come from countries ranked well above the USA in the WHO lists ranking healthcare systems (UK, Australia and Canada). JCI also charge a lot of money.

In fact, standards of healthcare, staff training, ethics etc. are really not too bad in some countries outside of the USA - for example, Dr K C Tan, who you mention specifically, trained in surgery in the United Kingdom (see http://www.kctanliverclinic.com.sg/our_team.aspx?pid=34390 for details). You often allude to US-sourced examples in what you write, and I would certainly not wish to base my complete scientific analysis on Michael Moore's "Sicko", but the fact that a hospital in Thailand (however excellent) happens to be chosen as a provider by a US-based insurance scheme may conceivably have something to do with cost rather than just excellence.

SOFIHA (the Society for International Healthcare Accreditation) is a free-to-join group (no one is making any money out of it !) which merits attention because it is interested in both in the quality and availability of healthcare accreditation and, potentially, in seeking out high-quality healthcare accreditation for those hospitals in based less wealthy countries (including those which are interested in medical tourism) which would be both less costly to them and less overtly didactic in its content than some other schemes. Because it is British-based, there is, naturally, an interest in socialised medicine as well as in safer commercialised medicine (we are all keen that patients who go overseas as medical tourists come back alive and well). Would you agree that it would be good to get a few non-commercially orientated voices on board to balance the arguments ?!

On to travel health. The Thai problem with HIV relates more to the "tourism" part of the equation than the "medical tourism" part of the equation. Any pre-travel healthcare professional in the field worth his or her salt would include HIV prevention in the briefing - prevention is always better than cure, as people are living breathing creatures who occasionally have sex, and sometimes engage in it in an unsafe fashion. In the hospital context, as long as staff obey universal precautions and as long as blood products and human organs are sourced according to what would be universally regarded as good practice, there should, of course be no problems. However, no one should ever assume that all human beings know how to protect themselves against HIV in the social settings they encounter - anyone who has ever worked in a sexual health clinic knows the utter stupidity of such a viewpoint. The Thai authorities should be commended for the work they are doing with HIV, but they would no doubt admit that they still have much to do.

As for dengue in Thailand, try a few more web sites for further information (for example, "Deadly dengue fever explodes in Thailand" 2005 - 0681.htmhttp://www.cdnn.info/news/travel/t050210.html ; CDC site http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol9no10/02- Science site - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/01/040122083820.htm). There are many many more. I myself have had dengue, caught in South-East Asia, and I can vouch that it is not a pleasant experience. It is reasonable to advise a traveller coming to Thailand to use DEET liberally, which will not only repel Aedes but will also help to repel the Anopholes mosquito, the vector of malaria, which the US CDC will tell you is extremely common around the borders of Thailand. As for countries other than Thailand, you may wish to insert some appropriate data for dengue and hiv prevalence for them too - this web site is about facts, not selling.

If you have problems with the way that other countries are portrayed in this article, you should feel free to edit, as long as you provide evidence. Others will take you on if they feel you are wrong, being unreasonable or being biased. However, I would humbly suggest that no one should ever take too much of a US-centric approach (e.g. with respect to accreditation) when it comes to discussing such points - healthcare is a universal phenomenon, and it would also be wrong to take too much of a stance viewed from an an Anglo-centric, a Russo-centric, a Thai-centric, a Franco-centric, an Isreali-centric, a Sino-centric........ you know what I mean !

Best wishes,

Professorial

Formally asking for collaboration with articles

A doubt about Wikipedia's functionalities:

Suppose that one is making an article, and wishes others' help for some issues. Particularly, for example:

• Formatting references.
• Correcting or introducing links.
• Correcting style issues.
• Translating text that is to be inserted into the article.
• Finding or editing an image.

We can, of course, leave a note in the talk page, and that's what I've done so far. Is there any more formal way to mark an article for a pending task, so others can find it? For example, using tags or any kind of metadata? That is, when you create an article, leave an indication of the kind "I can't do this X thing by myself; if you like and can, please do it".

I'm guessing that there are Wikipedians for every task; that I will always find someone that would be glad to do the task X, and will do it better than I would. But, how to leave the indication for them?

Thanks in advance for your help. Alfredo J. Herrera Lago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.220.222.140 (talk) 03:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, there is. Assuming that it's just cleanup issues, there's a host of tags at Wikipedia:Template_messages/Cleanup. (Ie, insert {{FACT}} after a statement that needs to be sourced). Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 03:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Also look for a WikiProject that covers the article. --Teratornis 19:31, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Iggys House Realty, Inc

I would like to see an article on Iggys House Realty and Buy Side Realty. Please help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.26.189.239 (talk) 06:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Two of Wikipedia's most important policies are notability and verifiability. A subject must be sufficiently notable to be worth including in the encyclopedia and that notability must be able to be verified through references to reliable sources.

Put simply, if there are newspaper articles with enough information to write about a subject, then that subject is notable and those articles can verify the information in the Wikipedia article.

If you cannot find newspaper web sites that provide information for an article, then the subject is not notable or verifiable and almost certainly will be deleted. Sbowers3 12:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Odd Diff results-- a bug?

• There was a version of a page that did reflect what I wanted. [8]
• The system log reports me as having made a very weird edit which I don't remember making. The diff looks most strange.
• But visually inspecting the two version fails to show that they are substantially different.
• When I self-reverted the edit I don't recall making using the undo function, the diff reports no substantial change.

Any idea what's up?? --Alecmconroy 06:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

That's very strange. In the second diff, you can see in the edited section that Gwern's comment should appear on the page twice, but it doesn't. Still, the diff of all three edits shows that it's fine. Weird. WODUP 06:49, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

It's a bug in the diff engine, I think. It's happened to me before (and I even reverted a legitimate edit as vandalism due to it). It tends to clear itself up after a while. --ais523 15:11, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Maybe there was something odd before, but now I don’t see any weird thing going on to be honest, diff 1 and diff 2 (the undo) just removes and adds back a period (.) behind Wales of two links to [[User:Jimbo Wales]]. --Van helsing 12:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Deleting account

How can I delete my wikipedia account? 195.195.166.31 07:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Due to the fact that Wikipedia content is licensed under the GFDL, all edits must be kept for attribution purposes, and so your account cannot be deleted. You do, however, have the right to vanish, which you can exercise by (1) requesting your user page (found at Special:Mypage) and/or user talk page (found at Special:Mytalk) be deleted, by adding the {{db-userreq}} template to them; (2) requesting to change your username to something that is unconnected with you (possibly a random collection of letters and numbers); (3) never logging in to your account again. If you do this, you are still free to register a new username if you wish to continue editing Wikipedia. --Silver Edge 07:55, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Deleted Article

It's me again. Thank you for your answer and i'm planning to make my first article on the "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" animated special. To make sure I'm not violating anything, I took a look on the book article. The small article created on the TV special doesn't seem to be there anymore. I'm afraid it might have been deleted. Is there any way to bring it back? Also, is there any way I can put pictures on my article --Silvasdfj, 5:13 AM (EST), 1 November 2007 Silvlasdfj 09:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

• If you want to add an existing image to an article, type [[Image:File name.jpg|center|Optional caption.]] to the article – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, center with the alignment of the image on the page and Optional caption with the caption, which of course, is optional. See our picture tutorial for more information.
• If you want to upload an image from your computer, to put in an article, you must find out what license the image is licensed under. If you know your image is licensed under a free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons, where all projects have access to the image. If you are unsure what license your image is licensed under, see the file upload wizard for more information. Also, please read Wikipedia's image use policy, because if you upload the image under a false license, you may be blocked.

Hope this has helped. --Silver Edge 09:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

Hi!

I published an article about Tilgin on Wikipedia and got the message below:

"This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion. The reason given is: It is blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person that would require a substantial rewrite in order to become an encyclopedia article. (CSD G11) Speedy concern: It is blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person that would require a substantial rewrite in order to become an encyclopedia article. (CSD G11)"

What is wrong in the text? It´s an objective text about a company. EVery sentence is 100% right. Can you please help me? I don´t understand what I have done wrong...

Kind regards

Caroline —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tilgin (talk • contribs) 09:58, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

First, you may want to read CSD G11 for yourself. Basically, information is deleted even if it's all factually correct if it appears to be there only for advertising purposes and not an attempt to present a neutral encyclopedia article. Advertisments and encyclopedia articles tend to be quite different in style; note that if notable and referenced negative information about a company comes to light, it would also be included in an article about a company, whilst such information would generally be omitted from an advertisement. You may also want to read the project page about spam, and about how not to be a spammer or advertiser; for users unused to Wikipedia, it's sometimes possible to produce spam or advertising material inadvertently. --ais523 10:08, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I should also note that the user name "Tilgin" violates our policies on user names. User names should not be used to promote a product or company and should not include trademarked names. Rklawton 14:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Unable to print an article

Hi Folks, When I try to print this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Navy_SEALs

my browser hangs. I have tried this about 10 times. Any suggestions? Sorry, if this is the wrong place for this question. If so, can you please tell me where would be the right place to ask this question. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.236.110.88 (talk) 13:43, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean it "hangs"? Try going to the printable version directly. - Rjd0060 14:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I think he means it gets a run-time error and times out. Leebo ^T/C 14:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I just tried it via "Print" and "Print Preview" and it freezes up both ways. I don't know how to fix that. Sorry - Rjd0060 14:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

You could try copy-pasting the article into a word processor and printing from there; that sometimes solves printing problems in Web browsers. --ais523 14:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Another option is to view the (HTML) "page source" of an article in your browser, and copy and paste the HTML into an HTML editor which is able to render and print HTML. HTML editors are probably more common than editors which could understand wikitext. And if you only want to print the text of an article, see TomeRaider. --Teratornis 21:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Don't know if this is too low tech to help, but as a Mac ox 10 user, I save it as a pdf file and it will print from that. Julia Rossi 22:11, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

School assignments

Do we have an "educator's section" of Wikipedia we can use to brief teachers and professors about Wikipedia? Useful topics might include an overview of our censorship policy, school blocks, and a "how to" or FAQ on the do's and don'ts of making class assignment out of creating a Wikipedia entry.

Why?

Apparently (and I'm in the middle of one now), teachers/professors have been known to make poorly thought out projects which require their students to create new Wikipedia articles. This often results in ill considered articles and associated deletions not to mention (possibly) underage students being forced by their teachers to give up their intellectual property rights (GNU Free Document License).

Indeed, it would make sense to have an "Educators" link to this and related information in the "Interaction" navigation box or in the Community Portal.

Thoughts? Rklawton 14:32, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:School and university projects? x42bn6 Talk Mess 14:34, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

User:Teratornis/Tips for teachers is kinda like that, but not exactly. Leebo ^T/C 15:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Any ideas for promoting this to a higher profile? Consider the novice professor attempting to guide novice students. Where can we place a link where such a professor is likely to stumble across it? Rklawton 15:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

See WP:EIW#School. (The Editor's index is where we try to list all the information relating to editing on Wikipedia; it is very comprehensive. But it is also not yet complete, so there aren't a lot of links to the index that new users might find readily.) As far as how to make particular items of information more noticeable to particular groups of people, consider that Wikipedia draws tens of millions of unique and highly diverse visitors each month. Obviously we cannot give equal emphasis to every particular item that every particular individual or group needs to see. To get an idea of how much "essential" information there is (essential to someone), browse through the Editor's index. Until computers can pass the Turing test, and become smart enough to intelligently advise their human users, we will have to limp along with the current unsatisfying situation in which everyone is under-informed to a greater extent than we would prefer. While we're on the subject of schools, I will shamelessly repeat Leebo's plug of my User:Teratornis/Tips for teachers user subpage (which may go into the project (Wikipedia:) namespace someday, if people think it's worth putting there). --Teratornis 19:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

While I'm yapping, I might also add that that passive methods of informing people (such as writing instructions for them to read) tend to be unreliable. Note how many people ask questions on the Help desk which demonstrate they ignored the instructions at the top of the Help desk. Many people who are new to anything as complex as Wikipedia are prone to making Hasty generalizations. There is a very strong human tendency for people to look at Wikipedia for the first time, and immediately assume it would be perfect for whatever arbitrary purpose pops first into their minds, without first making a serious effort to read the guidelines, or ask for exert advice. That means newcomers to Wikipedia are always going to make some mistakes, and the community of experienced editors will have to use their human intelligence to recognize the mistakes, and provide mild corrections as necessary. Now, one would hope that teachers (of all people), would know enough about Critical thinking not to make the hasty generalization fallacy, but often that appears not to be the case. Wikipedia is unlike anything most people have experienced before, so it's not surprising that Wikipedia tends to be initially misunderstood. Which is a long way of saying that even if we could somehow insure that every educator sees some customized instructions, the instructions won't always sink in before some educators do something inappropriate. --Teratornis 21:10, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

why not accept it?

Dear wikipedia,

I am talking about new art movement in the United Arab Emirates, called UAEism and about its artist founder Wasel Safwan. Why do I get warning and deletion about it? How can you help me on adding this cultural issue to wikipedia please?

Best Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by WaselART (talk • contribs) 15:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

It's being deleted because the content is promotional rather than encyclopedic. Your username suggests you have a conflict of interest. I recommend you review Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Spam, and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Leebo ^T/C 15:06, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted?. Also see wikiindex:Category:Art for other wikis which accept a wider range of articles about art than Wikipedia does. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so Wikipedia tends to be much fussier about content than many other wikis which specialize in a particular subject. --Teratornis 19:04, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikidrama

Good morning:

A Wikipedia user identified as Sukecchi has used an extension of your site to pronounce his sexuality and express his wish for a boyfried. This is info that is better suited for My-Space or other sites. His abuse of your site weakons your its redibility.

Concerned Parent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Green Kirby (talk • contribs) 15:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I see no violations of Wikipedia:User page here. Rklawton 15:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Turns out this is part of a Wikidrama between Green Kirby and Sukecchi. I fear it needs to go to the admins. --Orange Mike 15:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

It's not abusive to provide basic info about yourself. Unless you are suggesting it would be equally inappropriate for a straight male to announce his interest in obtaining a girlfriend. If you think that's the case, then you have a general disagreement with Wikipedia's user page standards and should seek to change consensus. It's not disallowed for a user to have a userbox saying they are gay, or bisexual, or whatever. In fact, it promotes discussion between those interested in such encyclopedia topics as those falling under WP:LGBT. Leebo ^T/C 15:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

 Unrelated - Although this isn't really that relevant, can I ask why you state that your a "concerned parent" here, whilst on your user page and user talk page, you appear to be 12 or about that. Rudget _{Contributions} 16:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

The account was created by the son, but the parent has taken it over. Rklawton 16:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I see. Regards, Rudget _{Contributions} 16:58, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

See also WP:VPT#Parental control. — Sebastian 20:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Browsing answers for a response to my previous question

How do I gain access to the place where, hopefully, someone has responded to my previously posed question?

I have been juggling the various pages on your site, trying to find my way back to where I was when I typed in my question. 90.194.116.56 15:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Just below the 'Click here to ask your question' box are links to the Help Desk archives; follow the links there to see all the questions and answers on a particular day. You can also search the archives via Google: use inurl:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk as one of the search terms. (You need to click on 'repeat the search with the omitted results included' to get more than 2 results if you do that.) --ais523 15:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

If you can figure out which IP address you used to ask the question then you can find the question in the contributions. The only contribution for the IP used here is this question: Special:Contributions/90.194.116.56. If it was asked with an account then just log in and click "my contributions" at the top. PrimeHunter 18:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Someday, maybe, we will replace MediaWiki's talk pages with a real threaded discussion tool: mw:Extension:LiquidThreads; when that happens, you might, for example, be able to get e-mail notifications whenever someone adds a reply to your Help desk questions. That would obviously be useful, because multiple replies for a single question can dribble in for days after the question first appears, and the later answers often add important information. --Teratornis 19:26, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I might add that when you search the Help desk with Google, you may prefer to use a link like this:

• Search Wikipedia Help desk with Google

which uses a longer syntax than the {{Google}} template, but generates a nice search page. (I might write a variation on the {{Google}} template that generates Google custom search forms from a compact wikitext syntax.) Also note that Google takes several days to index new pages on Wikipedia, so if you search for a question you asked very recently, Google might not find it yet. --Teratornis 19:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I wrote {{Google custom}} which can, among other things, generate links like this:

• Type this wikitext: {{google custom|en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk||Search Wikipedia Help desk}}
  • to display this link: Search Wikipedia Help desk

--Teratornis 23:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Clear Search History

How do I clear the list of searches that appear below the search window of the left side of the browser? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.166.104.67 (talk) 15:55, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

That's a question for whoever made whatever browser you are using and has nothing to do with Wikipedia. Sorry. Rklawton 15:58, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Or you could just avoid those pages and then the computer will eventually "forget" them. :) Rudget _{Contributions} 16:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Usually, if you highlight them and click delete on your keyboard, they disappear. Woodym555 16:11, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

How to find the author or editor of an article.

How do you find the author or editor of an article?71.53.96.150 16:06, 1 November 2007 (UTC) I am doing a research article on Moses in Christian thought which is listed under Moses.

Click on the history tab at the top of the page to find which editor added certain pieces of text. As a whole the wikipedia community creates the article. See Wikipedia:Who writes Wikipedia and Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia for some information on how to cite wikipedia. Woodym555 16:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:How to read an article history#Who has worked on the page. :) PeaceNT 16:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

i want to make my own wikipedia pages

billy wayne engle jr —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.19.14.16 (talk) 16:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Are they notable? Rudget _{Contributions} 16:26, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Please also be aware of WP:COI. PeaceNT 16:31, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

First try the WP:TUTORIAL. And check WikiIndex to see if some other wiki is more appropriate than Wikipedia for the pages you want to create. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and that sharply restricts the type of content which belongs here. There are thousands of other wikis, almost certainly including some that are appropriate to whatever you want to write about. If you decide that what you want to write really does belong in an encyclopedia, then you have to create an account before you can create new pages here. And see Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted? to see what often happens to new articles by new users. --Teratornis 19:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

question re: finding "future" entries

Hello,

I'm doing some research on wikipedia entries that report on future events or activities. For instance, this entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Songdo_City about is about a planned city to be built in Korea (but doesn't currently exist). I've noticed others, such as this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongtan - which includes the disclaimer that the entry contains information about "planned or expected infrastructure.".

My question is: I'm looking for other entries (not necessarily about cities, they could be about anything) that refer to a future or planned event. Is there a way to search using tags?

THANK YOU! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.74.215.41 (talk) 16:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

In general, we discourage articles about future events. However, some future events receive significant coverage from reliable sources, and so they might rate articles. Movies under production by major studios often qualify. Rklawton 16:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi. You'll probably find Category:Future events[9] will help you ! Pedro :  Chat  16:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Phillip Goldson International Airport in Belize

Your article on the Phillip Goldson International Airport is incorrect in many aspects including the runway lenght, expansion project and bus service. For correct information kindly visit our official web site at www.pgiabelize.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.19.14.37 (talk) 16:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. You may get more of a response at Talk:Philip S. W. Goldson International Airport. If the changes are uncontroversial, and can be sourced to verify them, then you can make those changes yourself by clicking on the "edit this page" tab. Controversial edits should be avoided if you are affiliated with the airport. Leebo ^T/C 16:28, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

As far as I can see, the page doesn't show what you suggest may be wrong. Could I ask specifically what you are referring to? And remember, as Leebo says, verifiabilty is important. We couldn't possibly base the whole of the majority of the article on one website, if you could I would suggest trying to get more internet pages or literary references (books) to cite sources. Regards, Rudget _{Contributions} 16:32, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I think Rudget is being a little unfair here. I sounds like you are asking Wikipedia to correct factual information about your airport and providing a source where the correct data might be found. IMHO, to say "We couldn't possibly base the whole of the majority of the article on one website", when it already seems to be based on a single source, is not really being fair to someone requesting a change and armed with a source that is the airport's official site. Astronaut 17:50, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Google summaries: Where are they entered?

See for example this: http://www.google.com/search?q=energy&as_sitesearch=wikipedia.org

That description looks hand-written. Where does it come from? Did someone submit it to google or is it on this site? Functor salad 18:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, thats a good one. That sentence isn't in that article, so I don't know where it comes from. Maybe somebody else will. - Rjd0060 18:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Typically Google's web crawlers just take the first sentence of a page and that's the description you see. However, there have been situations where vandalized versions of articles were the ones to be picked up, so maybe they're changing their policy and giving popular static articles simple descriptions. Leebo ^T/C 18:34, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Google gets many of its descriptions from Open Directory Project, including this one which is from http://www.dmoz.org/Science/Technology/Energy/. The description will either have been written by a volunteer ODP editor or submitted to the ODP by the public. You can suggest a changed description to ODP by clicking "update listing" but the reviewing editor may reject it. PrimeHunter 18:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Functor salad 18:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

By the way, Google Directory [10] is an ODP copy with each category sorted by PageRank. It copies all the descriptions, including this one.[11] PrimeHunter 18:49, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Correcting a MIsspelled Title

01NOV07 - I inadvertantly misspelled the word "continuous" in the internal link to an article on Continuous Integrated Triage spelling out "Continous Integrated Triage" rather than "Continuous Integrated Triage" when I editted the Triage article. I used the misspelled link to create the article on "Continuous Integrated Triage" except the title is now "Continous Integrated Triage" and does not correctly search nor link to the spell corrected triage article. How do I fix the title? Do I just copy and paste the article from the misspelled title to a new article page under the correct title? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Renaissancedoc (talk • contribs) 19:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorting it on user's talk page. Tiddly-Tom 19:28, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Wong picture?

Your page on Potter Stewart . . . is that a picture of Byron White? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.178.35.223 (talk) 20:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Not unless the Library of Congress has their records wrong - that's his official picture. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:05, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

e-mails - are they considered real-time?

e-mails, are they considered real-time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.213.72.2 (talk) 20:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean, but I think you'd be better off asking at the Reference Desk - they handle knowledge-type questions, we only deal with how to use Wikipedia. You may also want to take a look at the article on Email. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:06, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Check out the definition in Real-time computing; I don't think e-mail satisfies that definition. E-mail is more properly a form of asynchronous communication. A wiki such as Wikipedia is another example of asynchronous communication. --Teratornis 21:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Instant messaging is probably closer to satisfying the definition of "real-time" than e-mail is. --Teratornis 21:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Pass word protected information

Hello,

I was wondering if there is a section where technical information for a specific company Service information could be posted but password protected for only Company personnel. Thanks, Donna --DonnaLauzon 21:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

If you want to download the MediaWiki software and run it for your own company (separate from Wikipedia), that is allowed. That said, if you actually mean to create a locked article on the company, please read WP:OWN and WP:COI. No, it is not possible to get your own section of Wikipedia for your company's use. -- Kesh 21:53, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

If you have installed your own wiki based on MediaWiki software then see mw:Extension:PageProtectionPlus. PrimeHunter 23:48, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

See b:Wiki Science/How to start a wiki for more information on setting up your own corporate wiki. If your company has a competent system administrator, he or she should easily be able to install MediaWiki on your company's intranet. However, it may be a challenge to get enough people in your company trained to use your corporate wiki, and motivated to add useful content. But at least the MediaWiki software is free, and relatively easy to install. You might as well put a wiki in and let your people start experimenting with it. --Teratornis 03:28, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Solar Roast Coffee

It came to my attention that Solar Roast Coffee was deleted from the wikipedia site. I assure you that this is not spam, and the method that we use for roasting coffee is unique. The methodology has been featured in articles by Home Power, Tea and Coffee, USA today, and CNN radio. Please advise. Thanks, Mike Solar Roast mike@solarroast.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.160.41.221 (talk) 21:54, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

It looks like Solar Roast Coffee was marked on grounds (pun seriously not intended) of being spam and issues regarding notability. Without being able to see the article as it was, I will point out that all articles on Wikipedia have to be written with a neutral point of view, and verifiable through references to reliable, third-party sources. While it appears that there are certainly enough media articles (and proper articles too, it seems, not a one-off mention in an article about something else) to pass the grounds of notability, I'm guessing that the article itself read like an advertisement, which is guaranteed to be non-neutral. Also, since you are apparently associated with the company, there is a conflict of interest concern that would occur if you were involved in writing the article. I would suggest you take a look at the Wikipedia Business' FAQ, and then perhaps try to write something passable at articles for creation, where it will be reviewed and then, possibly, recreated. Confusing Manifestation 22:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

adding a person

Greetings-

Our Hollywood based production company (Bliss Productions) is centered around the creative efforts of director / actor Stefan Lyenko:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0529263/

www.blissing.com

We would like to add Stefan Lysenko to Wikipedia due to his long time contribution to the industry and his unique approach to the arts. Our attempt is to follow the Wikipedia rules and regulations so we have sent his reference information along with the Bliss Production website which he heads. Looking foward to hearing your suggestions. Cheers and thanks-Bliss Productions 1blissing 22:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Looks like Mr. Lysenko meets the notablity guidelines; just remember to cite reliable independent sources. You are discouraged from creating or editing articles about yourself or things you are related to, except to correct factual errors, so you may want to check out the drawing board to get other's opinions on the appropriateness of the article for Wikipedia. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 22:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I have always found the guidelines for conflict of interest guidelines that should be taken with a pinch of WP:COMMON and a dash of WP:IAR. Do be very reluctant in writing about something you have a conflict of intrest in. But if you do write something, and maybe ask for comment on it, declaring your conflict of intrest, it can lead to a very decent article. You will just have to accept that it will be edited mercilessly, and that it could happen that none of the information you provided ends up in the final article, or that the article may paint a picture that you don't agree with. Other editors may strongly disagree with me on this one though. Martijn Hoekstra 23:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, please note that for legal reasons, we can't have role accounts. I.e., you can't share one account between multiple people. --Bfigura ^(talk) 23:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

November 2

research project

I have to make a project based on couple of topics which i havent been able to decide on i.e. 1.day of the week effect on the emerging stock markets i.e.BRIC's 2.Fed rate impact on the BRIC's 3.Using oil Future as an hedge against the european equity markets —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.225.166.9 (talk) 00:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I can't really tell what your question is, but:

• Wikipedia does not do your homework for you.
• Any general knowledge questions can be answered at the Reference desk. They can answer just about any question you have, but again, they do not do your homework for you.
• The Helpdesk is for questions about using Wikipedia.

NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 00:14, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Delete Account

Hello- I was once a keen wikipedia user, perhaps a bit to keen and probably have made some comments taht could come later to bite me on the back. Can i somehow delete my account or wipe all of my records from wikipedia or something. Thanks

p.s i would like the most comprehensive way to clear this account of mine. THank you.

THE MILJAKINATOR 00:03, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Right to vanish. Unfortunately, for GFDL purposes, your account cannot be deleted and your edit history cannot be wiped. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 00:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

air force ranks

Would like to know ranks and see pictures of rank pins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.108.50.252 (talk) 00:39, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 00:42, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Rather than bother the folks at Reference Desk, try answering your question yourself. Type "air force ranks" in the search box at the top left of the screen (scroll up if you can't see it), then press the Search button. You will see lots of articles related to your query. Surely, some of them will answer your question. That will be faster than waiting for someone else to answer it, and you will learn how to answer questions so that the next time you can do it yourself. Sbowers3 00:52, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Have a gander at Air force officer rank insignia, contains most of what i think you want. Woodym555 00:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Am I being censored on wikipedia?

I keep trying to post truthful information about yahoo not having a general customer support number and it keeps getting taken down. WTF? I thought it would say "neutrality disputed" if for some reason I was assumed to be lying, which I'm not. Try calling yahoo on the phone and complaining about their lack of a phone number and you have no human being to speak to. Is wikipedia neutral or am I being censored to write the truth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.71.243.67 (talk) 00:52, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't think this is a case of you being censored. It looks more like a conflict with our policy on no original research. If you find a news article that discusses this issue, and cite it, you'll be fine. If not though, the material will be removed, since whether or not Yahoo's lack of a phone number is important is a matter of opinion (unless backed by a reliable source). Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 01:01, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

most friendly used English word

Dear Sir.

What are the most popularly and friendly used English words in everyday life in US?

Regards

Frank —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.116.121 (talk) 02:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Try the Reference Desk. :) –- kungming·2 ^(Talk) 02:20, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Also note that English words are not "friendly". They can be "offensive" or "not offensive". If you want a list of English word frequencies, a study on it was done by Zipf. It shouldn't be hard to google for Zipf word frequencies and find many references to it. -- kainaw™ 03:52, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Saying "hello", "please" and "thank you" - with a smile - make you appear friendly and will get you a long way. Same is true anywhere... learning to say these three simple words in some other languages is my top travel tip. Astronaut 09:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

People speak English all over the world, and even within one country (such as the United States), what is offensive to some people may be terms of endearment to other people. See for example -izzle. --Teratornis 23:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Why my page is deleted?

I created a page named "National ICT R&D Fund". It might be containing some information breaching having conflict of interest. Now I want to edit it so that it does not contain any information voilating wikipedia rules & regulations. Help me about this issue as early as possible? B.R. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ihsanelahi (talk • contribs) 03:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

A version of the page was previously deleted as a copyright violation, under Criterion for Speedy Deletion G12. All content on Wikipedia needs to be original - it cannot be copied from another website, textbook, or any other form of printed or electronic source, unless it is very clear and verifiable that the content is freely available and compatible with the terms of the GFDL. In general, it's not. If you can write an article in your own words that is referenced with reliable, third party sources for easy verification, and you can establish in the article that the group is notable while remaining neutral, you should be fine. For more tips, you can read Wikipedia:Your first article and/or Help:Starting a new page. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 04:53, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

No Reference on Bio for Chad Kroeger.

Hey there, I was reading the page for Chad Kroeger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Kroeger) and at the end of the 'Career' section it says: "However on 23rd October 2007 Kroeger stated that NickleBack are most likey to never record again." There is no reference to where this was quoted from and I've searched the internet looking for more information on this and can't find anything. Other Wiki pages related to Nickelback don't say anything with regards to this either. In fact the Nickelback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelback) page indicated that they are taking a break before recording their next album - and that comes with a reference.

In searching your site on how to complain about this unreferenced remark, I ran across this: "If an article has no references, and you are unable to find them yourself, you can tag the article with the template

, so long as the article is not nonsensical or a biography of a living person, in which case you should request admin assistance." On the page for siting sources - (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources). Since this is a bio on living person, I'm requesting the admin assistance.

Thanks.

I took care of it. It was vandalism. In the future, you can remove vandalism on your own by clicking "edit this page". Smokizzy (talk) 04:20, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I reverted further back since the preceding edits also looked like vandalism. PrimeHunter 04:22, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

How about a Wikipdedia Armed Forces???

Dear fellow wikipedians,

This idea might seem a bit crazy, but if you already have a Wikipedia army, don't read the rest of this letter.

Okay, so this idea I have, that, just like HALOPEDIA, we should have a TSWO!(Top Secret Wikipedian Organization)

We (hopefully) could base everything on the Halopedian Warz thing. And if you guys make it happen, I just want to be a General, not a founder, as I say, "Those who thinks power is there rite, power isn't fit for them, but when power is thrust upon those who don't expect it, they are the ones fit for power (most of the time)." The idea is stupid, but I was thinking that this can happen, you know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darth Chyrsaor (talk • contribs) 04:56, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, we aren't a social networking site. I suggest you try Kings of chaos. Viridae^Talk 04:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

There is no cabal. --Teratornis 13:54, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

NPOV-related guidelines on editors?

I recall seeing NPOV-related guidelines which specifically referenced corporate PR departments editing articles about their own company. I've found a similar issue, and I'd like to warn the user, but I cannot find the guideline. Is it my searchbox-fu or my memory which faulty? Porkrind 04:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

See the Editor's index, which links to just about every editing guideline page. See for example: WP:EIW#Company and WP:EIW#COI, and of course WP:PEACOCK which explains how what we want is pretty much the opposite of what PR departments do for a living. --Teratornis 05:39, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Code stuff

Hi, I was wondering, how do I colour writing, make writing bigger, and make coloured background things? If possible, could you tell me how to do things like this? Thanks! Ryan 05:02, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Our userpage help pages give this kind of information. There's Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help/Formatting Advice and User:The Transhumanist/User page design. WODUP 05:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. This will help heaps. --Ryan 06:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Where can I see recently deleted articles?

Like Special:Newpages, but for deleted pages. 172.202.79.43 05:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, you can see the titles as Special:Log/Delete, although the pages themselves are not visible (except to admins), because they are, well, deleted. Hope that helps. --TeaDrinker 05:39, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks, yes I was only interested in seeing the titles and frequency of deletions, so that's the list. 172.202.79.43 05:43, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Unless you are an administrator, you cannot view deleted articles or edits on-wiki (that is, here on en.wikipedia.org). If the article is old enough to have been caught by a crawler such as Google, you might be able to access a deleted page there. Otherwise, you might want to peruse Category:Wikipedia_administrators_who_will_provide_copies_of_deleted_articles and contact an admin on their talk page. If it is not a copyright violation or a personal attack, most will be helpful. Please note that I do not include myself in that category. Keegan^talk 05:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Not displaying Correctly

Hi, i was using wikipedia, and when i returned to the site later in the day it wasn't displaying right, i use the latest version of firefox.

thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.42.190 (talk)

It looks okay to me. What specifically is wrong? WODUP 06:02, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

recent changes

i am on the administration team for a website that has the MediaWiki software... i'm trying to change how the Recent Changes page displays, but i'm not sure which System message to edit... basically what i'm trying to do is whenever there's an IP edit, when you click on the IP it will take you to the 'User' page for the IP rather than the contributions for that IP... is this possible? and if yes, how so... if i missed a Help article on this, just pointing me in the the right direction would be extrememly helpful... thanks...
-- Dani Banani 09:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

That can't be done via editing the MediaWiki namespace. You'd need a dev on your wiki to patch the code of MediaWiki itself, and that isn't at all simple to do. --ais523 10:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Much how-to information for MediaWiki is available with these two searches:

• Search Meta-Wiki with Google
• Search MediaWiki.org with Google

--Teratornis 14:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

list

Where can I find the list of administrators who should not be administrators? Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hitler-Barassi (talk • contribs) 10:07, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

There isn't one. If you want to make an informal complaint against and administrator I'd sugest you contact them first. If that fails try WP:ANI. On another note I'm not convinced about your user name. Would you consider changing it? Pedro :  Chat  10:10, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Is there a page on Wikipedia to request that pronunciation be added for a page? Something like Wikipedia:Requests for Pronunciation or something similar? I'll create it if not --Montchav 11:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• Remember your capitalization, that 'P' shouldn't be capitalized. I think the best way to go would be to discuss it with the people who work at Wikipedia:Requested recordings, perhaps they're interested in integrating it in their project page so requests actually get handled. If that is the case, you could build a redirect instead of a new page. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:20, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
• {{Pronunciation needed}} can be added to a word. PrimeHunter 15:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

hello

i was just wondering(step by step) how to put one of my pictures up as the main page of an article. ThanQ, CaMeRoN —Preceding unsigned comment added by SharinganXYZ (talk • contribs) 12:46, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

let me rephrase that how do i put one of my pics as the main picture of an article —Preceding unsigned comment added by SharinganXYZ (talk • contribs) 12:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

1. Upload the image to Wikipedia. Click the Upload file link on the left. Choose the description that fits your photo (if you took it, it will most likely be the first, "It is entirely my own work." Read all the instructions on the next page. Use the browse button to find your file, and add a descriptive name in the "Destination filename" box. Fill in the rest of the boxe and don't forget the licensing. You can choose between a number of licenses to release it under - if you don't add a valid license, the photo might be deleted in the future. (Make a note of the destination filename - you'll need it.)
2. When you've uploaded the file, you can use the instructions here to add it to an article. For example, [[Image:mypic.jpg|300px|thumb|right|My first picture]] will add your picture, resized to 300 pixels to the right hand side of an article with the caption "My first picture". Lots more information available here. --Kateshortforbob 14:01, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

saving a page

How do I save a page to my computer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hement (talk • contribs) 13:27, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

In Internet Explorer, go to File, then Save. In Firefox, you can press Ctrl + S. When the Save box appears, chose the place you wish to save it to, make sure the Save as type setting is Webpage, complete (so that you get all the pictures and formatting), and press Save. This will save the page you are currently viewing. --Kateshortforbob 13:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Spelling

On the page Antarctica I have changed to the right spelling of Otto Nordenskjöld's surname and also added the captain's name Carl Anton Larsen. The Nordenskjöld expedition took place 1901-03. In the chapter Antarctica expeditions: I have added the Jason-expedition 1892-93 and 1893-94 by captain Carl Anton Larsen. CA was the first person to ski in Antarctica. He also found the first fossils in Antarctica that proved earlier tropical times and presented them to the Royal Geographic Society in London, which started the heroic polar exploration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thlinda (talk • contribs) 14:28, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

(moved to new section)

Hi! I can't see any edits to Antarctica from your account User:Thlinda. The article seems to be semi-protected at the moment due to vandalism which means new users are unable to edit it. If you made changes to the article, they wouldn't have been saved. If you would like to make changes to this article, there are a number of things you can do:

1. Wait until your account is four days old (after that it will not be considered "new")
2. Request unprotection giving a reason, and an administrator will decide whether the article should be unprotected
3. Discuss changes on the Talk:Antarctica to get opinions and assistance from other editors interested in this area.

Remember that any factual changes should be verified by a reliable source, otherwise they may be removed. --Kateshortforbob 15:08, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

After some searching I guess you edited List of Antarctica expeditions as User:212.181.115.254 on October 25. I don't know whether you have edited other articles about Antarctica with other IP addresses or accounts. If you want help then please say the exact name of the article it is about. Often we can figure it out by looking at your previous contributions but the account used to post here has no other edits.[12] PrimeHunter 15:43, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Electric shock

Never mind it was fixed as I was typing :) In the article on Electric shock there seems to vandalism. I saw undo buttons on the history page but the article was changed in 2-3 edits so I was not sure if I should press the undo button only on the last one or all the 2-3 edits? Can some who know do it?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.19.46 (talk) 14:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

What you should do if this happens again is go to the history and click on the date of the last good version. Then click "edit this page" and save it. That will put the article back to the way it was before the vandalism no matter how many edits were made since then. It is sometimes possible to undo edits after others have been made, but only when the two edits are to different sections and don't affect each other. For more information, see Help:Reverting. Leebo ^T/C 14:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

leebo

This dude leebo keeps reverting my edits. I am just asking for help —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.9.250.65 (talk) 15:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

If you stop making personal attacks and ask a question related to using Wikipedia, your comments won't be reverted. Leebo ^T/C 15:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

How do I change the title of the page i created?

I need to change the Title of the page from Hallertauer to Hallertau? I am having difficulty finding this option? Chuckwikiwiki 15:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC).

You can do this with the "move" tab at the top of the page. To read more, see Help:Moving a page. Leebo ^T/C 15:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

wonderball

We need the address for Nestle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.160.119.252 (talk) 16:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Leebo ^T/C 16:41, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The article Nestlé has no street address and an encyclopedia article in Wikipedia should rarely have that. But there is a link to their website where you can find http://www.nestle.com/Common/Header/ContactUs.htm. PrimeHunter 17:18, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Linking Within Wikipedia

After linking to another page once within an article, is it approriate to continue to do so afterwards whenever the term/person in question appears again? It seems redundant to link multiple times to the same page, but I'm not sure if there are guidelines/protocol already in place. AliothRising 19:44, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

You're correct, that there is no need to do so more than once. You can review the Manual of Style for Wikipedia, which also confirms that, but the first mention of a person/item is linked, and subsequent mentions need not be linked. Hope that helps! Ariel♥Gold 19:46, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

It does; thank you! AliothRising 19:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Typefaces

Can written material be printed in different typefaces on WP? --Mentifisto 20:20, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

It can. Just declare it with regular old <font>. For example: Times New Roman Lucida Sans Unicode. Articles on fonts usually have an example of the font. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 21:29, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

That worked, thanks! --Mentifisto 21:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

how do I get my external links to work?

I just created a new page called "Cultural Development Corporation" and my external links all take me to a "page not found" instead of to the links. The links also all have a lock symbol next to them. How can I get the links to work?

Also, I would like to know how to delete this page, I wasn't ready to post it, but I did, and know I don't know how to take it down while I work on further edits.

Thanks 64.0.115.67 20:54, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thats odd. Check to make sure you put in the right site. Have a nice day and happy editing:).--SJP 20:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

It would be easier for people to help you if you provided a wikilink to your page, i.e. [[Cultural Development Corporation]]. That would not have helped in this case because there is not now a page by that name, so probably it was speedily deleted after you created it.

When I create a new page, or edit a long section, I first create it in my own sandbox, then copy and paste where it belongs. That way I can do all the editing I need to do without anybody else deleting it or intermingling their edits. Sbowers3 21:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

What is the precise name of the page? There has been no article called "Cultural Development Corporation", your IP address has no registered edits to any similar name, and Special:Log/delete shows nothing resembling that name since you posted here. If you don't remember the name then which account did you use to create it? PrimeHunter 22:42, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

How to restore contests of my talk page

Hello. Could somebody please tell me how to restore contests of my talk page. I've made quite a mess there blanking it for few times and I'd like to bring everything back now. Thank you--Mbz1 22:56, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

You can click the "history" tab at the top and undo each revision. Otherwise you can look at the history and tell me which date and time you want restored to and I will do it for you. - Rjd0060 23:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the responseRjd0060. I've tried to hit history and undo, but it did not work for me. Could you, please restore absolutely everything here (It is my commons talk page) leaving what I have there now intact. Thank you for your time.--Mbz1 23:17, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. I thought you were referring to your Wikipedia page. I cannot do it on commons because I would have used Twinkle and that is only available here. - Rjd0060 23:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

So is it any easy way to restore my Commons talk page. It should be. Thank you.--Mbz1 23:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

How do you undo faster?

I keep undoing vandalism but keep getting into edit conflict. Its frustrating. How do u undo faster like all those other ppl? Stupid2 23:28, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Reverting. PrimeHunter 23:42, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

You can also use semi-automated tools to help revert vandalism. See WP:TWINKLE, or WP:CVU under tools for more info. --Hdt83 ^Chat 00:29, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Policy regarding race/religion in lead?

I recall once reading that race and religion do not belong in the lead sentence of articles about people, but cannot find that policy anywhere now that I need to refer to it. Can someone tell me if I am mistaken, or is it just that I can't find it? Jeffpw 23:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Opening paragraph says: Ethnicity should generally not be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. PrimeHunter 23:46, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Prime. You're a peach. Jeffpw 23:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

November 3

Picture upside down

[[Image:STS087-715-70.jpg|thumb|Satellite view of Karachi]] Karachi Harbour's satellite picture is upside down. I could not edit it. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pendancious (talk • contribs) 00:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:STS087-715-70.jpg is oriented like the NASA original at http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/images/scanned/lowres/STS087/STS087-715-70.JPG. Do you want to rotate it 180° so north becomes up? PrimeHunter 14:37, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

performance mangement

how to define a policy that performance is linked to input output process —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.123.18.17 (talk) 03:33, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

This help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. You could try the reference desk. - Rjd0060 03:47, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

an IBM thinkpad year 2000

i need help giving it an OS think its operatingsystem. kps sending me a message wen it boots up...OSmissing...press any key to activate floppy. nothing happens. ilovethe laptop, butit was loaned and misused and returned to me in poorshape can you help me. iceprincs2002@yahoo.com

thasnk you....my name is lori —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.64.88.162 (talk) 03:40, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but this Help Desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. - Rjd0060 03:48, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried the computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter 04:24, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Using Search

How can I use Wikipedia's search to search for information inside an article currently being viewed?

Specifically, I am viewing DSM-IV Codes and I want to use the search box to find a specific code.

I understand the <Ctrl>F will let me search text, but I want to be able to use Wikipedia's search box, by using a browser's built-in search engine feature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.166.178.22 (talk) 04:51, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia's search engine doesn't really work that well, and certainly doesn't allow you to search for information within a single article. If you plan to use an external search function to do this, I'm afraid we won't be of much help, as we can only provide assistance with Wikipedia-related functions. Sorry. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 06:06, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

2007 Oct., 10, 1.10 Redirect term is not hit by google.([[13]]) This response is not directly for your problem. Wikipedia search is poor. Even using Google, redirected term is not hit. As far as particular wrod(s) is appears in a article, Google might hit that article. Google may be much useful than serach of Wikipedia, I believe. --Namazu-tron 08:55, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

If you want to search a specific article with Google, such as DSM-IV Codes, you can, by using my brand-spanking-new {{Google custom}} template. Check this out:

• This wikitext: {{Google custom|en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-IV_Codes||Search Wikipedia's DSM-IV Codes article}}
  • produces the link: Search Wikipedia's DSM-IV Codes article

which you can click on to get a custom Google search form that searches just that page. However, the search results only show the first instance of your search term(s). When you use a Ctrl-F search in a Web browser, you can repeat the search to find additional instances of your search string. Another disadvantage of Google search is that it only links to the top of the DSM-IV Codes page; clicking on the page link that Google displays does not scroll forward in the page to the location of the text that Google found, so you still have to do a Ctrl-F search to get there. However, {{Google custom}} does indeed make it possible to search a single Wikipedia article with Google, and the template call syntax is somewhat less ugly than editing the Google custom search URL yourself. Actually, I wrote {{Google custom}} as a variant of {{Google}} (written by other editors) not to search single pages, but to search sets of pages, such as the Help desk archives (see the examples I included in the template documentation). But it does work for searching a single article, so there you go. --Teratornis 22:52, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

"The..."

I was intending to start an article which would be called The American Company, which I would have done by moving William and Lewis Hallam there, then expanding. I would then have made American Company (which now redirects to List of United States companies) a dab. However, is it right that there's some sort of rule that my article shouldn't start with "The"? If so, presumably, my article should go at American Company (with a link at the top, to the list) and The American Company should redirect to it. Is that right? (And where do I find the rule, if so?) AndyJones 09:06, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Slight amendment to my question: it's American company not American Company which now redirects to the list. AndyJones 09:08, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Out of curiousity what is the connection between William and Lewis Hallam and American Company? WP:MOS#Article title says don't use "The" unless it is part of the proper name, e.g. The Beatles, The New York Times. Sbowers3 13:59, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

It was the name of their theatre company. Actually they performed as the Hallam Company in their first incarnation, and I'm intending to have that redirect to my new page, too. Researching this further, it looks like the Cambridge Companion doesn't capitalise the "the", so I'll work on American Company. Thank you for your help. AndyJones 16:43, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Remember that titles are case-sensitive. Yours should be American Company (but if they called themselves The American Company, include the "The" in the title). Then you could leave American company (lower case company) alone or have it be a dab. Sbowers3 23:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

TV vs T.V.

What should be used in articles TV or T.V.? Peachey88 ^{(Talk Page | Contribs)} 09:23, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Neither; television (i.e. spelling it out) seems to be prevalent. I suppose that you could choose if you are editing an article where you have to use it, much like British or American English. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 11:11, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

You might look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Television to see if they have any relevant guidelines. --Teratornis 22:22, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television) mentions "TV" several times (all in passing), but not "T.V." --Teratornis 22:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

help

help you deleted my edits on salisbury witshre econemy and bishopstone salisbury wiltshire please im not a fucking vandal

Stop sorry Jack —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackslee (talk • contribs) 11:24, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Who specifically? You could contact the person who reverted your edits on their talkpage, but there's not much else you can do. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 11:27, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Many of your edits are unconstructive and indiscriminate, and quite a few are indeed vandalism and nothing but. What was your intent with creating a page with the text: "hellllpppppppppppppp mmmmmmeeeeeeeeee salisbbbury"? How about when you defamed a student at your high school and in the next edit attacked the school and its teachers? Don't add negative content to any articles without backing that up with sources, including proclaiming that particular towns are full of drug use. Further attacks on named individuals are more serious and will quickly result in a block.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:07, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Preview and sandboxes

Why exactly do sandboxes exist if there's the 'show preview' function that could easily let you see the results of tests? --Mentifisto 14:20, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Sandboxes (in userspace, anyway) are usually used to write articles before actually posting them in article namespace. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 14:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

If an editor wants to work on an article or list in more than one go then they might create a sandbox. It is also helpful when developing or updating complicated templates. Woodym555 14:48, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah I see, thanks for clarifying it. --Mentifisto 17:58, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Having sandboxes for testing also reduces the chance that a brand-new user would save a test edit in an actual article instead of merely previewing it there. We would rather not have brand-new users experimenting on actual articles, when they just want to try their first wikitext edits. That would be an invitation to disaster. (Of course, having "edit" links everywhere does invite disaster, but we have thousands of experienced users cleaning up the occasional messes.) --Teratornis 23:01, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Sandboxes also reduce the chance that a not-so-new user would hit the "save page" button by accident (for example, by hitting "enter" with the focus outside the main text area). Also, sandboxes are the only way (I know of) to experiment with templates. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 23:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Depending on how boldly one wants to go with templates where no one has gone before, a possibly even safer way to experiment would be in one's own personal wiki (see for example mw:Manual:Wiki on a stick). Then when a coding error reduces everything to a smoking crater, nobody else has to know. --Teratornis 23:39, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

No I prefer it when everyone can see my misguided attempts at manipulating parser functions. ;) Woodym555 23:46, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Custom skin and CSS files

Hi, I'm in the process of creating my own skin, for which the UI elements are quite a bit different from Monobook, so I am basing it on the (empty) "MySkin" files. Now, while I want the UI elements to be different, I'd like the way articles look to be identical to the monobook skin. I'd have expected the rules for "UI elements" and "article elements" to be in separate css files, but it seems (from WP:CSS) that they are lumped together in monobook/main.css, MediaWiki:Monobook.css etc. So do I have to copy the specific rules for article text that I want individually to my skin file, or is there something I'm missing? Thanks. -- DatRoot 15:04, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I think you'd be better off asking at the Tech Village Pump - the volunteers there will probably have a better idea of what you're talking about, and will certainly have a better idea about how to do what you're proposing. Good luck! Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that! Will do. -- DatRoot 17:54, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Why don't you fix the bug, worm, or virus that wikipedia has in the mobile google search engine ONLY effecting wikipedia?

I am furious! This is the second time, while using my mobile phone, when clicking on a wikipedia search that YOUR site has caused me to lose my site, and accessability to google. More ever, when TRYING to send a request for a fix for this problem, Wikipedia is 100% unavailable for help of a response of any kind. Your "contact wikipedia leaves a lot to be desired, and is an insult to anyoe of even preschool intelligence. Get this fixed or I will contact the FCC and let them know you are sendig bug, worms, or viruses via search engines outside YOUR search engine. I garruntee your claims of no liability will not stand a snowball's chance in hell for this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.243.146 (talk) 15:24, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Bugs should be brought to notice at Bugzilla and I have done so on you part at bugzilla:11862. Feel free to post a comment if you have anything else to say. ChrisDHDR 17:04, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Please also do not make legal threats against Wikipedia. Legal threats are taken very seriously and can result in a block from editing. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

The OP has been blocked six months for that very reason. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 20:07, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you expect anybody here to do, when you don't even give any details of what sort of mobile device you're using, what sort of search you were making, were you actually on the Wikipedia site or Google (you mention both), and so on? The problem could be with your mobile provider (maybe it just happened to drop connection while you were doing the search), with your device's hardware manufacturer, with Google, with a third-party site you reached through a search or external link, with yourself for failing to use the controls of your device and the features of the sites and service you're using correctly, or maybe even with Wikipedia, but there is insufficient information for anybody to tell, or for the FCC to know whether it might fall under their jurisdiction. *Dan T.* 18:27, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure that the FCC will require that we give this user a full refund of his Wikipedia subscription fee. -Arch dude 20:56, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

In his choice of dollars, euros, pounds sterling, or Iraqi dinars. *Dan T.* 21:10, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, we have a Help desk, which doesn't always help, but we try. I haven't seen anything on Google yet that resembles a way to get help. Just in case Google is causing this problem, whatever it may be (I'm with *Dan T.* - I can't make any sense of the help request, but then I don't use Wikipedia on any mobile computing device yet). If the mobile phone could take a video of itself, the questioner could upload it, so we could see what is going on. But that would probably require two devices: a camera phone or video camera, with which to video-record the misbehaving device. --Teratornis 22:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

editing an article

Hello, I just have a quick question, as I have never used Wiki except for reading the info provided. I did search a bit in the faq. Sorry, as I know this is probably an easy one. My question is, if people are allowed to edit these articles, who makes sure that someone doesn't post improper or inacurate content? It is a vast knowledge database, so I was just curious about that.

~fewjr~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fewjr (talk • contribs) 17:22, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

There are a group of editors who help with the Counter-Vandalism Unit to patrol the new pages log and recent changes to help stop the spread of vandalism on the site. Also, any information added must be reliably referenced, to ensure that it is in fact correct. Any unreferenced, controversial information can be removed at any time by any editor. It's a huge system of checks and balances, but the correct information generally comes out on top. You might also be interested in looking at the essays on Why Wikipedia is so great and its counterpart, Why Wikipedia is not so great. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

(EC) A number of people regularly monitor the Recent Changes and they revert any vandalism. - Rjd0060 17:31, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

We even have robot programs running there that are programmed to revert vandalism and warn administrators. - Mgm|^(talk) 18:01, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Another page you might be interested to read, if you haven't already, is Replies to common objections -- DatRoot 17:35, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Of course, despite the never-ending battle against vandalism, enough goes undetected long enough to be noticeable by average readers. If you read much on Wikipedia, especially articles that don't get a lot of attention, you are bound to run across some vandalism sooner or later, but probably not as much as you would initially assume for a site that lets anybody edit almost anything. One study found that 97% of vandalism comes from unregistered users. This fuels a perennial debate about whether to require accounts for all editing (currently, accounts are necessary for creating new articles, and for editing semi-protected articles - over the years, Wikipedia has gradually reduced the editing privileges of unregistered users). You may be interested in my take on this issue at: User:Teratornis/Should editors be logged-in users? While I don't necessarily disagree with the current policy (after all, Wikipedia clearly works), I'm not impressed by some of the arguments advanced to justify it, which suffer from some logical fallacies and a weak evidentiary basis. --Teratornis 22:10, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

business environment

achievements of economic planning —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.21.242.165 (talk) 17:51, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please post your question at the reference desk and make use of full sentences so we can understand what you want. Remember, the help and reference desks are not search engines. - Mgm|^(talk) 18:00, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

davidlettermanwhydoeshewearwhitesocks?

whydoes he wear <website name removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.5.140 (talk) 23:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. - Rjd0060 00:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

November 4

Creating keyword rerouting

I am trying to get the phrase(s) "sea witch" [and/or "sea witches", "octopus-mermaid", "octo-mermaid", etc.] to be automatically redirected to the Wikipedia article cecaelia when doing a general Keyword search. How do I do this without creating a separate article for it? And what is the code I use to create this redirection? (I am not a member of Wikipedia at this time.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.166.86.99 (talk) 02:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Make a page with the text #REDIRECT [[Cecaelia]]. See more at Wikipedia:Redirect. You must currently be logged in to make a page. PrimeHunter 03:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

New article not appering in search

Hi Everyone:

I tried to research further, but seem to be strking out.

My understanding is that all articles should appear immediately. I have authored the following page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V._J._Trolio

When I do a generic searches 'Trolio', 'V.J. Trolio', it says there is not article. I even double-checked 'My Contributions' and it is there.

Does anyone has any ideas?

Thanks.

DAN —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danimal59 (talk • contribs) 03:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

You must wait for Wikipedia search to index the article. The "Go" button (activated by pressing Enter in the search box) works right away but only when the title is an exact match. PrimeHunter 03:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks...I thought it could possibly be an 'indexing' thing, but wasn't sure.... Thanks again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danimal59 (talk • contribs) 03:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

How to leave message for unpaged user?

Hi, I went to the article in the Hi Everyone section and would like to leave a message for the user on their talk page, but there isn't one. Is it okay for me to create one? Julia Rossi 04:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's what talk pages are for. --Bfigura ^(talk) 04:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks – I just thought it was an invasion if it's the User's. Cheers Julia Rossi 04:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Kaije Armena, Jr.

Keith Jesse "Kaije" Castrence-Armena, Jr. (November 22, 1992) Illustrator. He was born on November 22, 1992. Legazpi city, Philippines. Fred Gallagher's Website at <website removed> this is my e-mail. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.97.218.14 (talk) 04:27, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

If you're asking if this person deserves to have his own article, the answer looks like probably not. Please read our notability guidelines for more info. GlassCobra 04:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Oscar Sanchez

I created a page called Oscar Sanchez. I created the page two weeks ago. Yesterday I did some editing on the page. Today, the page is not there. I checked the deleted page log and Oscar Sanchez is not there. What happened to the page I created? When I did a search for Oscar Sanchez, I am redirected to other Oscar Sanchez. I have created another page that was deleted, however, I was alerted to the reason it was going to be deleted and the page is in the deleted log.

Please let me know what happened to the page I created named Oscar Sanchez. Again, it is not in your deleted log.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by OscarRSanchez (talk • contribs) 05:06, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

The article is still there. I think you forgot to use the accents on the o and a. Did you mean Óscar Sánchez? I'm also afraid this article does not appear notable, so I requested speedy deletion. — jacĸrм (talk) 06:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

And also, if you meant Óscar Sánchez or not, please do not delete a disambiguation page for a page about youself. You do not seem to be notable, but if you are, you do not explain why you are. — jacĸrм (talk) 06:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Add Comment to Citation within a Reference as part of a Wiki Article?

I would like to add a comment to a Citation. For example, a one or two sentence description of a Journal article. I was thinking of overloading location = in order to to do this. My citations are within a reference block <ref>....... </ref> Using Location = does not work in this context.

Any Advice Out There? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ITBlair (talk • contribs) 06:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

These are usually meant to be summed up in |title= and |work=. A one or two sentence is a rather long comment to have in a citation. My suggestion would just be to put who the journal is by, a date, and the basics. — jacĸrм (talk) 06:44, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

If you are trying to include a quotation to a reference, you could use the "quote" parameter, but that is for quotations only, not comments. --Silver Edge 08:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I have seen long commentary in a reference. They way they did it was to put it just before the /ref after the closing braces ( }} ) of the cite. Sbowers3 13:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

creating new pages

How do I Create new pages?

Zeno Boy 08:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --Silver Edge 08:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Administrator Review of an Article

How do I go about submitting an article for review by an administrator? I have an article that I believe needs looked at by one, due to disputes over article content. Kennedy ^(talk) 09:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Administrators are no better content reviewers than other regular editors, and an article would benefit the most if reviewed by an editor who has knowledge in the subject. Thus, if you have a page that needs outside input of other users, you might follow the process of Wikipedia:Requests for comment or Wikipedia:Third opinion. :) Best, 10:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by PeaceNT (talk • contribs)

If the article was part of an active wikiproject then they might be of some help. Projects like milhist/maths/bio/Anime are very active and have a large knowledge base and might be able to help you. If talking does not work then the mediation cabal could help you. You might want to take a look at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution for some further reading. Woodym555 11:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

What the article needed was a review of the dispute, not a review of the content. One user reverted 7 times in one day - from 14,000 bytes down to 300 bytes. He complained that it was badly written. Other users challenged him to improve it, not delete it to almost nothing. Someone finally issued that user a 3RR warning.

KennedyBaird, if a user reverts 3 times in one day, then warn him about the WP:3RR policy. See {{uw-3rr}}. If he continues to revert, then write a report at WP:AN3. If you need help formatting the report, then just ask for help. Sbowers3 14:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion

My thanks and best regards to the team of Wikipedia. Here is a suggestion you may like to consider, which I experienced and others also.

Kinldy put "sound effects in spelling" some words which are commonly mis-spelled. In other dictionaries, there is a sound icon which reflects the sound of a word.

Best regards. SarwarMazumder —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarwarmazumder (talk • contribs) 11:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

You might want to try Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). What you have to remember though is that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. You might want to try wiktionary] which is a dictionary. Hope this helps. Woodym555 12:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Wiktionary has pronunciation sound-clips - why don't you look there? Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, and most people associate sound-clips with a dictionary. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 12:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Sarwarmazumder does have a pont, though I think that would have limited use here. I could see it being helpful for the pronunciation of foreign terms if they are the title of an article or a subject header, for example. Jeffpw 12:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Richard Prescott

the author Richard Prescott Officially Dead —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.194.69.6 (talk) 13:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but what is your question? This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. If you have a general knowledge question, you may want to try the Reference desk. Otherwise, can you please elabourate? NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 13:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

changing article name

How do you correct an article name? The name is incorrectly spelt and I can't modify the article name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.38.140.27 (talk) 14:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

What is the article? You rename an article by moving it, but you have to be a registered user to do that. Sbowers3 14:08, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

It is entitled 'Iyad Allawi' when it should actually read 'Ayad Allawi' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.38.140.27 (talk) 14:09, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

thank you very much! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.38.140.27 (talk) 14:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I moved it. Even before you replied, I looked at your contribs and guessed that it might be Iyad Allawi. The subject himself and most of the refs spell it Ayad so I moved it. First time I've ever done a move but the motto here is be bold so I did it and it worked smoothly. Sbowers3 14:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

The mystery country

is argentina the mystery country for history —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.200.58 (talk) 15:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Your question appears to be a homework question. We apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here to not do people's homework for them. If there's any other way we can help, feel free to let us know. Thanks! GlassCobra 15:17, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

In full agreement with the above message, you may find our article on Argentina useful and come to your own conclusions.--Fuhghettaboutit 15:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and for factual questions you want the reference desk. Hut 8.5 15:44, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Categorization

I want to categorize an article I have written.

I have found a great deal of discussion about categorization.

What I cannot find is a tab or box which says:

"Click here to enter a category for this article" or something similar.

P.S. - I have no idea what this means:

Please sign your question using Cycleman 16:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC).

Signed, Cycleman 16:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC).

Hey Cycleman! For help putting an article into categories, check out Help:Category#Putting an item in a category. As for signing, that just means four tildes (~~~~), which produces your name and the date after your post. Hope this helps! GlassCobra 16:07, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

(E/C):Hi, when you use the ~~~~ your signature is added by the software, as you can see above. With regards to categories, to add an article to a category, e.g. the "fluffy creatures" category, you would edit an article and enter [[Category:Fluffy creatures]] at the bottom. It will be added to category when the article edit is saved. See the Wikipedia page on categorization for more info. Woodym555 16:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

(after EC}:Hi Cycleman. The way to categorize an article is to add categories it fits into at the bottom. A random example: [[Category:Chemists]]. To make it sort in the category by last name, you would type [[Category:Chemists|Doe, John]]. For multiple categories, however, instead of piping the name, you can add above the list of categories a single template which sorts into all of them: {{DEFAULTSORT:Doe, John}} To find such categories, you can browse Wikipedia:Categorical index, but I find the best way is to find an article on a similar topic to provide an example to use. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit 16:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Fred Thompson article

The Fred Thompson article has been locked indefinitely and the talk page says that it will be locked until the election is over. I believe this means the administrator means to keep the article locked until after November 2008. Could someone help unlock this article. Remember 16:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

The user who is writing on the talk page about locking forever is engaging in subtle irony. He is not the admin who locked the page and is not in fact an admin at all. Sbowers3 18:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Leave your request on WP:RFPP under the requests for unprotection heading. Administrators there will be happy to discuss it with you. Woodym555 16:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Gaster could use some looking at

Gaster used to be a surname redirect page, but it's also an anatomical term referring to the "abdomen" of Apocrita Hymenoptera (ants wasps and bees). Probably one of the two functions should be moved to a disambiguation page, but I'm not sure which one. Move the anatomy to Gaster (insect), or the surnames to Gaster (surname)?

Advice (or just plain action) from someone more experienced would be appreciated. 71.41.210.146 16:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I've moved the surname information to Gaster (surname). The anatomical use of the word remains at Gaster. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 17:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, looks good! 71.41.210.146 20:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Always happy to help. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 20:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

to create new page for a new place

hi, 17:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)i want to create a page about my native place OBRA(Aurangabad) ,bihar, INDIA220.227.149.135 17:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC). so how can i create this page? Guide me as soon as possible.

First, you need to create an account. Then, just type in Aurangabad in the search box, and click go, and hit "create a new page". Or, alternatively, come back here after creating an account, and click on the following link: Aurangabad. Hope this helps~! 17:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smartyllama (talk • contribs) Edit: Apparently, the page already exists. And why in the world did sinebot do that? 17:14, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

SineBot saw you didn't sign properly with a user page link. The question appears to be about the place Obra in Aurangabad district, Bihar in India. There is already another Obra, India. I'm not sure about the naming convention here but Obra, Bihar may work. You can create an account and make the page - or wait to Friday where anonymous page creation may become allowed. PrimeHunter 20:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

how do I attcah a photo to my edits article page?

Dear Editor,

I am trying to edit an artcle (DROPme)and would like to attach a relevenat jpeg image. I have tried copy& past but that doesn't seem to work.

Any suggestions, redirections please.

Thanks

Tinje —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tinje (talk • contribs) 18:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not accept external images. If you want to use your image in an article, you'll have to upload it. Make sure it complies with the image use policy, though. GlassCobra 18:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Read more: Wikipedia:Images

Don't forget that to embed the image in the article, you must type [[Image:Example.jpg]]. You can also type [[Image:Example.jpg|Xpx]] to shrink or enlarge the image to X by X pixels. For example, typing [[Image:Example.jpg|20px]] will display the image in a 20 by 20 pixel space.NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 18:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, be sure that the image is not copyrighted. Corvus cornix 00:23, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

What to do about repeated addition of copyrighted text?

The article Beijing National Aquatics Centre (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under frequent attack by various accounts (first an IP account from Australia, and then by various SPAs). What can we do about this?

• Checkuser is a big effort for little and short lasting effect. The user will just keep creating new accounts.
• Temporary semi-protection is not possible, since none of the conditions of WP:PROT apply. Moreover, it only would work indirectly, hurting our prospect of improving this stub, and not addressing the problem at the root.
• AN/I does not apply, since it doesn't specifically require admin action
• Just keep reverting. So far, I'm the only one. And frankly, I feel we all have better things to do here than repeat doing the same thing over and over again.

I am a bit frustrated, not just about the obnoxious user, but also about our bureaucracy that makes it so hard to find a way to deal with this. — Sebastian 19:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

You could request the page be fully protected, but if you feel the protection policy doesn't apply, then there's no reason not to bring it up at AN/I; if the admins can't help you (which I find odd in this case - they take copyvios very seriously), then you could try Dispute resolution. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 19:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Full protection would even be worse - that would be like shooting a rat with a cannon! I am trying to avoid AN because I know how much backlog we have in many areas that do require admin action, so I don't want to compound the backlog by add some that shouldn't require admin action. That would only hurt Wikipedia overall. Moreover, I just don't know what else an admin could do, anyway. — Sebastian 20:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

This seems to me to be a warn and then take to WP:AIV issue. The first time a copyvio is posted you warn ({{nothanks}} or {{uw-copyright}}). Once warned and then ignored, further posting of the material by the same user or IP is vandalism (which is not subject to 3RR by the way). Just follow up in an escalating series as you would for any other form of vandalism ({{uw-vandalism2}}, {{uw-vandalism3}} and {{uw-vandalism4}}). Once the material is added after a final warning, report for the block. I'm not saying this is not without its slowness and frustrations, and of course it's subject to gaming (for example if they wait before posting again it's not within the technical requirments of AIV), but once it becomes complex, it is a proper AN/I issue. But you likely won't get far if you haven't taken the steps to warn first.--Fuhghettaboutit 20:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I didn't think of AIV, because it's not really vandalism. Still, that might be a good idea. There have been several warnings like the ones you describe already. I really don't care that terribly about this one article. My question was only to find out if there is a way to fight such attacks in a way that aren't more work intensive than the attacks themselves. It's easy to create a new account and to revert a change, but if those who want to defend Wikipedia have to jump through several hoops for each attack, then that's just no solution. I have to leave now, but if there's really no straightforward way that I overlooked then maybe I'll post it on the village pump later. — Sebastian 21:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I sympathize with your time cost versus benefit argument. Note though that continued copyright violations after a warning is indeed vandalism, and of a pernicious stripe.--Fuhghettaboutit 21:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanations and your sympathy. The problem is that we can't say it's repeated until we checkuser. I decided, unsatisfactory as it may be, it's not worth my time to pursue this any further and I'll just unwatch that page. I don't want to hog the help desk either, so if anyone wants to keep discussing this, please just drop me a note. — Sebastian 02:02, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

PS: I just noticed that the same applies to the Chris Bosse article: [14]. But I'll stay with my decision to practice WP:DISENGAGE and I'm not reverting that; maybe someone else wants to do that. — Sebastian 02:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Oscar Sanchez (2)

created a page titled Oscar Sanchez. The page was running for about 2 weeks with no problems. Yesterday, I went to edit my page and if was not there. I received no notice of deletion and no explanation. I checked the deletion log and my page was not in the deletion log. I don't know what happened to my page. I thought that someone from the outside deleted my page. I created the page again last night. Today I received a notice that I was vandalizing the page Oscar Sanchez page. I don't know what is going on. My user name is OscarRSanchez I was not vandalizing Oscar Sanchez. Can you please let me know what to do. Is there something I can do different so that my page does not get deleted again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by OscarRSanchez (talk • contribs) 20:32, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

You created your article by modifying a disambiguation page. That is not the correct place to create an article. You can create it using hatnotes at, for example, Oscar Sanchez (entrepreneur). NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 20:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Read more: Wikipedia:Disambiguation, Wikipedia:Hatnotes

Please note that if you were to create an article about yourself, it would be a conflict of interest and would probably be deleted as you, unfortunately, do not pass the notability guidelines at this point. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 20:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Read more: Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Notability

I guess your first "created" page was this edit to Óscar Sánchez which also overwrote a disambiguation page instead of creating a new page. Oscar Sanchez redirects to Óscar Sánchez, so you may be at the latter when you think you are at the former. PrimeHunter 21:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Oscar Sanchez - 2

I did a search for Oscar Sanchez and received a message that there were no pages with that name. I was received a promp that I can create a page for Oscar Sanchez. I did. I created the page and spent alot of time and efford editing the page. The page was running ok until yesterday. When I tried to go into Oscar Sanchez to add some more information, I found another page. I checked the deleted loge and the page was Not there. I als received no messages about the intent to delete. I thought that someone from the outside deleted my page. I recreated the page. Now Iam getting a notice the I modified a disambiguation page. The answer I received is below. I created the page first. When you did a search for Oscar Sanchez, my page came up. I am not Oscar Sanchez. I work for Oscar Sanchez and he is a notable person in South Florida. Several articles were written about him in our local news papers. Maybe I have made mistakes creating his page, but I did not have a chance to correct the mistake. Can you please investigate this matter. The page I created was created first. Then it became a disambiquation page. Please let me know what I need to do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by OscarRSanchez (talk • contribs)

You created your article by modifying a disambiguation page. That is not the correct place to create an article. You can create it using hatnotes at, for example, Oscar Sanchez (entrepreneur). NF24(radio me!Editor review) 20:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

It appears the above reply was pasted from somewhere, but let me just expand a bit: I realize Wikipedia might seem confusing at first, (please click on the blue words to read the policy/guide they refer to). Wikipedia is not like other sites you may have come across. First, it is an encyclopedia. What this means, is that it is not MySpace, or FaceBook, or a place to host personal webspace, or a place where editors can make articles about anything they wish. Wikipedia has Core policies, such as neutrality, notability, verifiability, etc. What does all of this mean? Well, it means that any article on Wikipedia must demonstrate notability (meaning it must be note worthy, covered by the media, etc.), and have reliable, third-party sources (such as news media articles, magazine/trade journal articles) written about the subject, and the information given in the article must cite those sources to verify it is true. As mentioned, you cannot just over-ride a disambiguation page, with your own content. Additionally, looking at the version you put up, I'll have you note again the biography notability requirements, it would appear your article would not meet those requirements. I could, of course, be wrong, but you'd need to provide reliable third-party sources to verify your notability. However, and perhaps most importantly, your username would suggest that you are the person you were writing about. Wikipedia has a conflict of interest guideline that states you should not create or edit articles about yourself, your company, your family, friends, etc., as you'd likely be unable to do so neutrally. If you are notable enough, and article would be created by other editors. There are many, many business owners out there who would not meet the notability requirements for an encyclopedia, so please don't take this as saying you're not important, the two are not the same thing. It is just that Wikipedia uses the same standards as other printed encyclopedia, so you may wish to review all the policies and guidelines linked here. I hope that helps to explain the issues! Cheers, Ariel♥Gold 21:29, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Also previously answered here. Ariel♥Gold 21:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

And also answered in the section above. Please stop creating new sections about the same. Click the edit link to the right to add a comment to an existing section. There is clear proof that you changed a disambiguation page here - and you probably also did it before logging in here. PrimeHunter 21:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Articles of a Prince

The articles that I posted were deleted and the reason was because they weren't significant, Last time I checked anything that is written in this encyclopedia is NO FACT And can't be trusted, so who are you people to say what is or isn't important? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kreedskulls (talk • contribs) 21:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

It is too bad that you're under that impression. Please review the core policies of Wikipedia, to understand why verifiability, notability (importance), and neutrality are some of the basics that determine if an article is deleted. I think you'd find that the majority of articles on Wikipedia, especially the good and featured articles are highly accurate, well sourced and cited, and demonstrate the dedication of the millions of people who work to create this repository. Ariel♥Gold 21:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

We here at wikipedia have some rules on what is notable or not. If your article fails these, then it will be deleted. I would suggest you read, and follow our notability guideliness. Also, only a small amount of our edits here are not true. The majority of what is written here is true. Cheers!--SJP 21:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Making a page easier to search for

Is there any way to add a keyword for a page to make it easier to find? For example, I was searching to find out what a wad cutter is and typed in the search wad cutter. This didn't come up with anything, however when the word is mispelled as wadcutter, it directs you to the wadcutter page. I want to discuss changing the spelling on the page before I edit it, so is there at least a way I can make it easier to find the page through the search engine? Flash176 21:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Should the page be titled "Wad cutter" or "Wadcutter"? If it is the first, then a user can move the page to the correct title. If it should be "Wadcutter", we could create a redirect page titled "Wad cutter" that would redirect to "Wadcutter". Which is correct? — Soleil (formerly I) 21:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

First of all, please sign your name by clicking that tab on the top that looks like a signature. It is okay that you did not since you did not know to:) Are you sure that you did not spell the word wrong? That could be the problem. As for doing something to the search engine, you can make a re-direct to the article. For an example, someone may look up The Group Hamas and have nothing come up. If you add a re-direct to Hamas, then it will bring them to the Hamas article. Happy editing!--SJP 21:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

"Wadcutter" has 88700 Google hits [15] and "Wad cutter" only has 15400 [16]. This indicates "Wadcutter" is the more common name and should be used per Wikipedia:Naming conventions. I have created a redirect from Wad cutter to Wadcutter. PrimeHunter 21:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I was just adding my name when you edited. :) Some people spell it as 1 word, but I believe most, including the companies that make the ammo, spell it as 2 words. But my question is until the spelling of the page is changed(if it ever is), is there any way to get the search to show that page? Because if you do a search for wad cutter, nothing comes up for that page, I had to find it some other way. But I just saw PrimeHunter's edit, so it's a moot point. Thanks, guys. Flash176 21:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

If there is, I assume only a developer will be able too. Since I am not a developer, I cannot help you. Sorry:(--SJP 00:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Articles Copied from Another Website

What is the proper procedure for dealing with articles that may have been directly copied from another website? One article I noticed is partially written in 1st person as if it was copied off the company website. -Zomic13 21:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

What is the article? It may have copyrighted text, it may be written like an advertisement, it may have a non-notable subject. The procedure depends on the circumstances. PrimeHunter 22:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Yellow Book (directory) -Zomic13 22:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. It was User:Yellowbookdenton who added "Today we publish 835 directories ..." [17]. It's the only edit by that account and a copyright violation of http://www.yellgroup.com/english/aboutyell-yellowbookusa, so I have reverted it. PrimeHunter 22:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Websites are generally copyrighted unless otherwise stated. In this case the original page directly says "Copyright 2007 Yell Limited", and http://www.yellgroup.com/english/sitetermsconditions says: "No materials from this website may be copied, downloaded, reproduced, broadcast, shown or played in public, republished, uploaded, posted, stored, transmitted or distributed in any way or adapted or changed in any way." It was probably somebody from the company who added it to Wikipedia for promotion (violating Wikipedia:Conflict of interest) but that doesn't change that it must be removed. PrimeHunter 22:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

adding a biography

how does one do this please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.212.48.40 (talk) 23:40, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 23:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

High contrast skin option?

Hi - don't know if this is already possible with regular wikipedia options but I was wondering if there is a skin/way to view wikipedia with inverted colours (ie, white text/black background). I view wikipedia a lot and find the black text/white background to be very jarring on my eyes after a while.

I read somewhere that when looking at a reflective surface (like a computer screen) it is easier for the human eye to read light text on a dark background.

Rokos 23:54, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

An inverted colours skin is not built-in to Wikipedia. You can create your own skins (I think), but I'm not familiar with the skinning process other than the fact that you must know at least some CSS. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 23:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Is there somewhere (like an accessibility page) that I can request one be made? It would be a great help for my eyes :)Rokos 00:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi there, you might want to have a look at M:Gallery of user styles to see if theres maybe a style there you could use. Hope this helps Andy^reply 00:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Also WikiProject Accessibility might be the people to ask. -- DatRoot 00:32, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, guys. I don't really know how to do the CSS coding but I did lodge a suggestion on the Accessibility page.Rokos 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

November 5

Is there an automatic way (on wiki or off wiki) to see a list of articles an editor has created?--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 00:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Created? Perhaps not. But you can see all their contributions by going to their user page and clicking "User Contributions" in the toolbox at left. Geologyguy 00:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I know.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 00:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

You can use the New pages log for some recent ones but i think it has a time limiter on it though. yours for example. I think the question came up before here and no-one could find one, if i remember correctly. Woodym555 00:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, some keep a list of articles they have created. I do here. It is not a universal thing though, so not everyone does it. Cheers!--SJP 00:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking of making a list like that for my private use, but I've forgotten which articles I've created; thus my question.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 00:56, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Making a Barnstar

I'm wanting to make a barnstar but I don't know what to do/page to make so that other people can use the barnstar. I know normal barnstars you do the whole "{{subst nameofstar" etc......but HOw to do that for me >_< --Diaboli 01:49, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Please reply to my question on Talk Page since I have no desire to watch this page and check every update to see for a reply, thanks in advance --Diaboli 03:57, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Deleting Information

How does one delete prejudicial information on a site that the owner's of said site want eliminiated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drjcoby (talk • contribs) 02:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

If you are talking about St Matthews University, then you need to discuss changes on the articles talk page. Anyhow, those edits you made to that article weren't necessary anyways. Are you talking about something else? You have to be more specific. - Rjd0060 02:22, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

And if that is the edit in question, then just because material is negative about the subject is no reason to delete it, especially if the information is properly backed up by reliable sources. —C.Fred (talk) 03:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Plagiarism---Answers.com

What should I do if I find a user who has written thousands of articles mostly by copying and pasting from answers.com? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Franky210 (talk • contribs) 02:31, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, Answers.com is itself a mirror of Wikipedia. Do you have any evidence? You also seem to be personally attacking them (User:Bryson109) on their talkpage. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 02:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Since Answers.com uses Wikipedia articles, it is much more likely that Answers.com is using the articles he wrote. Mr.Z-man 02:39, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

It just does not seem likely that a user who has written almost entirely identical pages to those on answers.com and all are around 2 sentences long, that the information was obtained from somewhere other than that site obtained from that site. This user has quite literally no non-stub articles. Why would anybody really go around making a bunch of stub articles on one subject? If they really liked the topic they'd delve deaper. It seems like more like someone found a topic wikipedia didn't have articles on and created a bunch of articles on it to make them look smart or have a bunch of edits —Preceding unsigned comment added by Franky210 (talk • contribs) 02:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Again, Answers.com is a Wikipedia mirror. The length of the articles they write does not matter. Many articles start as stubs simply because there is not much to write about, or because of a lack of third-party information. Take U.S. Virgin Islands Highway 305 for example. (Yes, I wrote that article). It is a very minor road which does not provide much to write about, and due to the lack of USVI governmental presence on the Internet, there are no official sources. Thus, a stub. The pages will be identical because Answers.com "scrapes" the text right off of Wikipedia and places it on their page - crediting Wikipedia, of course. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 03:00, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I really don't see the connection here. How does writing a stub article make you suspect of plagiarism? Maybe this user likes writing stub articles. Delving deeper into stubs or not is a personal preference, not a sign of guilt. And as Mr.Z-man and NF24 said, you chose the wrong article source to investigate. You cannot investigate a Wikipedia mirror and then accuse a Wikipedia editor of plagiarism. That would be the same as looking at yourself in the mirror and then accusing yourself of following your reflection. Dr.K. 03:13, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Natalie Suarez

Can Wikipedia PLEASE delete anything that was written about "Natalie Suarez" out of the database and off the internet? That would be great. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gigistar (talk • contribs) 03:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

If it was an attack article, it's likely that an administrator has already deleted it. Regards, Neranei (talk) 03:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually, looking at the logs, it was deleted because she was a non-notable model. It has been deleted. Regards, Neranei (talk) 03:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

the Donate button shouldnt be in red, it reminds one of stopping, esp next to the green —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.235.9 (talk) 05:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Using a Published Text That's Not Available on the Web as a Reference

If I am using a published book, such as an autobiography, to add content to a page, how do I appropriate source/reference that on the page so that the information is not challenged? Specifically this text is not available on the internet to just read for free. TheGoonSquad 05:49, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

You can use Template:Cite book. --Silver Edge 05:52, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks kindly. Could you review Starrbooty and RuPaul Is: Starbooty! and look at the reference section I added and tell me if it is sufficient. The articles are being challenged by some anonymous person who claims the films are not noteworthy which to me seems ludicrous, but I want to cover my bases. TheGoonSquad 06:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

People who don't clean their house

Hi

Does anyone know if there is a medical condition that prevents people from cleaning their house?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.246.9.122 (talk) 07:02, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

You mean the condition that Oscar the Grouch suffers from? =P You should try the Reference desk. --Silver Edge 07:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

How do I...

Deal with a dead link? It's a URL that's supposed to connect to CNN, which it does just fine, but gives a 404 message. In brief, nothing there anymore. I'm tempted to delete the whole thing, citation included. Advice?

Timothy Perper 09:02, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Dead external links for instructions on what to do. Bascially, don't remove a link just because it's dead; try to repair it if you can, or use {{dead link}} if you can't. --ais523 09:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Getting an opinion on language

Is there a way to get a native English speaker's opinion on an article? I've been trying to fix an article I consider to have pretty bad grammar and language, but after a couple of reverts I'm worried about ending up in an edit war (and about doing a lot of work for nothing). Tales 10:34, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 12:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Assuming it was the article Margit Sandemo, the last paragraph of the first section (Childhood) was written pretty badly, by a seemingly non-English speaker (If it was you, Tales, no offence! I am VERY stringent when it comes to grammar). Copied from the Swedish/Norwegian Wikipedia, perhaps? The section Literary career had minor errors. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 12:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

No offence taken even if I had written it. :) Well, you have less to criticize than me, so maybe I'm wrong. Phrasings such as the last part of "In the central role are distinct amulets, old writings and symbols, which deciphering the main characters solve riddles stage by time and fight against the evil powers" left me a bit confused. Tales 14:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Printing an article

Greetings,

I must admit I am not very computer savvy. I know know that anyone can contribute to this site and therefore sometimes the information isn't always 100% correct, but I would really like to know if it is possible to print an article I am interested in?

Sincerely, Diana Womack —Preceding unsigned comment added by Virginiawomack (talk • contribs) 10:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Just use your browsers 'print' feature (on the 'File' menu in most browsers, or the menu next to the icon of a printer in Internet Explorer 7). You may want to choose 'Printable version' in the toolbox to the left of the page first; this will put the page into a form more suitable for printing. --ais523 10:39, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Gregg paskins

how do i sign in and that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Collinmcrae (talk • contribs) 13:05, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

You have signed in, your user name is Collinmcrae. I have left a welcome message on your talk page with links on how to edit wikipedia. Have you got a specific problem signing in? Woodym555 13:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

How to upload File/Images of Articles. Public can Allowed to see and not allowed to Edit....

Hi I am Sunilkumara, My I had couple queries while using WIKIPEDIA. Please help me How to upload File/Images of Articles. Public can Allowed to see and not allowed to Edit.... Please reply.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.123.182.161 (talk) 13:22, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• If you want to add an existing image to an article, type [[Image:File name.jpg|right|Optional caption.]] to the article – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, right with the alignment of the image on the page and Optional caption with the caption, which of course, is optional. See our picture tutorial for more information.
• If you want to upload an image from your computer, to put in an article, you must find out what license the image is licensed under. If you know your image is licensed under a free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons, where all projects have access to the image. If you are unsure what license your image is licensed under, see the file upload wizard for more information. Also, please read Wikipedia's image use policy, because if you upload the image under a false license, you may be blocked.

Hope this has helped. Note that you must create an account to upload images; why don't you go do that now? NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 13:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

If i am judging your question correctly, the answer is you can't. This is because Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that everyone can edit. There is no way of preventing edits to an article because you don't want people to edit them. See Wikipedia:About and Wikipedia:Who writes Wikipedia for a more detailed response. Hope this helps. Woodym555 13:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

How to request WIKIPEDIA Officers regarding Kannada Language as to List in other languages like English, Chainese, Hindhi Etc

How to request WIKIPEDIA Officers regarding Kannada Language as to List in other languages like English, Chainese, Hindhi Etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.123.182.161 (talk) 13:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Please phrase your question as a question. What Wikipedia officers are you trying to find? Admins, bureaucrats, stewards? Do any of those words sound familiar to you? Or, are you looking for the Kannada Wikipedia? It's located at http://kn.wikipedia.org. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 13:31, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

If your post is about links in the "In other languages" box to the left on many pages then see Help:Interlanguage links, and come back if you have a specific question. PrimeHunter 15:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Inappropriate Image?

Hi, I was just wondering whether explicit pictures are acceptable on Wikipedia. I have just come accross this article Frenular_delta, and as you can see it contains a rather graphic image. Should this be removed or not? Thanks. --79.72.113.19 14:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia, as an encyclopedia, may contain images and content that some find offensive. The encyclopedia is not censored, and you may find other articles like this that contain encyclopedically appropriate images of human anatomy. Leebo ^T/C 14:22, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Creating a Wiki for Mass Effect!

Hi I was wondering how does someone go about creating a Wiki for an upcoming video game that will overload the standard Wiki page. You see Mass Effect is a video game that comes out on the 20th of this month and it contains a whole SciFi universe of content from planets to weapons just like Star Wars or Halo and it should receive it's own Wiki Project in my opinion before the game is released. Any help to create one or an invite to help one that is in the works would be appreciated. Oh I know my Wiki profile is new but I have been with other Wiki projects under the same name for a while. Bioevil087 14:52, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

It would help if you could clarify what you mean a little bit. You are using several terms that mean different things as though they're synonyms. Firstly, Mass Effect has a Wikipedia article, but that doesn't seem to be what you meant. It's part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games, and having its own WikiProject would probably be inappropriate; at most it could have a task force for articles related to the game. Perhaps you mean that it should have its own wiki unrelated to Wikipedia. If that's the case, I can't really offer much help, because such a wiki may already exist. Does any of that sound right? Leebo ^T/C 14:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikia has a Mass Effect Wiki at http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_Wiki. Category:WikiProject Video games shows many games have their own WikiProject here at Wikipedia. Creating one for a game which hasn't been released yet sounds a bit odd to me, but it can be suggested at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals. PrimeHunter 15:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Background image on wiki page

Can anyone out there tell me if it is possible to put a background image on a wiki page (like a faded watermark) and have text flowing over the top. If so, how do I do it please. Thanks Annie —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anniehall53 (talk • contribs) 15:34, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

VIETNAM WAR

What was the cause of Vietnam war. How come the Americans got involved? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.220.77.149 (talk) 16:17, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

See Vietnam War. PrimeHunter 16:20, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

How do I make a wikiproject?????

Hi, I would like to make a wikiproject on McDonalds? Thanks--S.C.Ruffeyfan 16:34, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

The page for proposing a new WikiProject is Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals. Take note that it can be very difficult to run a WikiProject and keep it going smoothly. It takes a lot to get it off the ground. Also note that McDonald's already falls under the realm of several other projects, which can be seen on the talk page. It's possible that a task force within one of those existing projects would be better suited for your needs. Leebo ^T/C 16:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

robotc power supply

is it possible to use ac power supply for a mobile robot whis moves or performs through a predefined path? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.51.180.18 (talk) 16:39, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Leebo ^T/C 16:42, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

English Speaking Schools in Europe

Hello,

We currently operate an independent English speaking high school in Europe. The school provides a unique learning environment for students from North America and abroad. We would like to link our website to Wikipedia and I am asking if this would be possible and how I would go about doing this? You may contact us with a response to cciren@rogers.com.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.117.200 (talk) 16:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

crystals

Do crystals grow at the same rate? We are doing a science project for school. Thank you, 16:59, 5 November 2007 (UTC)16:59, 5 November 2007 (UTC)~