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November 15

THE ARTHOR

I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO VEIW THE ARTHOR OF WIKAPEDIA IM MAKING A BIBLIOGRAPHY SOO I RALLY NEED TO KNOW FOR SCHOOL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.172.235.138 (talk) 00:38, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Go to Special:Cite and type the name of the article you need citations for. - Rjd0060 00:49, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

More generally, see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. And please don't write all in capitals, on the internet this is generally considered shouting. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 01:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, please spell correctly. I see that you are at school, and that together with your spelling... I must guess you are in 3rd to 5th grade. Seriously, to fully understand all guidelines and rules here on wikipedia, you should be at least a teenager. Lex^{94 Talk Contributions Guest Book} 02:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

The poster apparently has no plans to edit Wikipedia but just asked how to cite Wikipedia in a school project. That is OK and doesn't require good English or understanding of Wikipedia to ask here. PrimeHunter 11:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't think we can make any judgment about age here - there are native English speakers of all ages who find English spelling difficult and spell phonetically as this questioner does. Children don't usually ask about mature things like bibliographies. Good luck with your school project. And feel free to come by again if you need more help. Egfrank 11:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Creating a user page

I want to create a user page for myself, but i do not even know where to begin. Can you help me?- Sonoran_Dweller 01:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

First of all, I'm not sure if you need to be told this, but just in case, your userpage is at User:Sonoran dweller. If you click on that link, type something and click save, that will create your userpage. As for what to put there, please see for a start, Wikipedia:Userpage, and for designing information, Wikipedia:User Page Design CenterWikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help and User:Danieltiger45/Userpage design. You can also browse other users' pages for design ideas and to see what they use their userpages for. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit 01:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Erasing searches

i do i delete things i search in the search if i try to erase the stuff in the box —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.100.41 (talk) 03:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not suite sure what you are asking. As a best guess, but probably way off base: Once you type something into the search field, and click search, erasing what you wrote will not change the search; once set to the task, it doesn't matter whether those words still exist in the box.--Fuhghettaboutit 04:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

If you're asking how to clear the box that drops down with all your previous searches, that depends on what browser you're using. I think in Firefox you can hover your mouse over individual entries and press the Delete key, or something, and in Internet Explorer 6 you can definitely clear the list by going to Tools -> Internet Options -> Content -> AutoComplete -> Clear Forms. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Username

I just wanted to make sure my username is appropriate. Personally, I like it, but I don't want to cause any problems. If not, what should I do about it. Bbwlover 05:30, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, if you really want a large opinion, you could file a request for comment on your username. I see no problem with it. If there's a problem, someone will notify you of sooner or later, but again, I see no problem, and no need to request comment. What do you think could be a problem about it? I (talk) 05:37, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't really think anyone would have a problem with it, but I just thought the public airing of how much I like large women may not set an appropriate tone for an encyclopedia. Everybody, big or small, needs love. Bbwlover 05:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with I, the name you've chosen does not in any way violate the username policy, and I cannot see why anyone would have any problem with the name. Ariel♥Gold 08:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Somehow I suspect Bbwlover is no stranger to "large opinions." Welcome to Wikipedia! --Teratornis 05:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Images per article

Is there any limit to the number of images you can put within a single article ??. May these be thumbs or suited inside Galleries ??

Royut 05:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Images#Image choice and placement and Wikipedia:Image use policy#Placement. Hope this helps! GlassCobra 05:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

web

how is web field? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.65.132.50 (talk) 08:47, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

The best place to ask questions about computers and the internet is the Computing Reference Desk. If you would like to ask your question there please provide more info on what you would like to know; your question is so short and ambiguous I can't tell what you are asking. Thanks, Raven4x4x 09:47, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

web

what is the difference between web designer and web developer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.65.132.50 (talk) 08:49, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. You could also read the Web designer and Web developer articles. Cheers! Ariel♥Gold 08:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

deltion

How do ui delete an image i had uplodaed in my controibution? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Venkykat (talk • contribs) 08:58, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Only Administrators are able to delete pages and images. If there is a good reason why your image should be deleted I'm sure it will be no problem. Which image are you referring to, and why do you want it deleted? Raven4x4x 09:49, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

define and explain the following tie and dye?

my guation is that explain tie and dye.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.178.72.189 (talk) 09:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC) 

Our article Tie-dye might be what you are looking for. In future, please post questions such as this on the Reference Desk; this Help Desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. Raven4x4x 10:05, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Templates

Is there a list of Wikipedia Templates? I have found (and use regularly) the User page templates for vandalism and the like. However, I am sure there are templates out there to post notes on articles like This article reads like a CV or other notes like that. Is there a list of what template pages are out there? StephenBuxton 12:38, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

There are several such pages; Wikipedia:Template messages is a list of them. --ais523 13:30, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

History deletion vs GFDL compliance

I was recently asked a question I couldn't answer-- when our admins delete page histories, how is it that we don't violate the GFDL by no longer providing that deleted material? I'm positive we aren't GFDL violators, but not sure of the specifics. --Alecmconroy 13:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

It's a violation if any derivatives of the deleted versions still exist, but admins should be careful about this when deleting. For instance, if I delete all revisions after a certain date, all the derivatives of the deleted versions were also deleted so there was no violation. If a revision is reverted immediately, and that revision is then deleted, again there is no violation because there are no derivatives of that version in the nondeleted part of the history. There are ways to do history deletions and violate the GFDL, but also ways to do them without violating the GFDL, and admins should always be careful with partial deletion for this reason. Hope that helps! --ais523 13:28, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Tittle

I need to change the tittle of the page "Universidad del Valle (Colombia)" to "University of Valle"

Univalle07 13:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Click on the "move" tab and move the article to the new title. -- kainaw™ 13:27, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, see Help:Moving a page. Qst 13:27, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Redirection

I need to eliminate the redirection from University of Valle to Universidad del Valle (Colombia) Univalle07 13:32, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

When you hit a redirect, you can see that it says "Redirected from Page name". Click on the page name and you can edit the redirect page (deleting the redirect command). -- kainaw™ 13:37, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Based on the previous question, I think Univalle07 wants University of Valle deleted, so he can move Universidad del Valle (Colombia) there; currently, it has a history, so you can't move the article to that title. There are a couple of issues:

• You could add a {{db-move}} tag to University of Valle, and an admin will eventually come along, review the situation, and decide whether or not to delete the page, clearing the way for you to do the page move yourself in four days (see section below).
• However, this is only for noncontroversial or consensus-driven moves. I don't see any discussion anywhere about this move. An admin may or may not consider this noncontroversial, and indeed, as I comment below, I think the move shouldn't be made.
• If an admin declines the {{db-move}} for the reason above, you can post a request at Requested page moves, and if consensus develops, an admin will make the move. Alternately, you could start a discussion at Talk:Universidad del Valle (Colombia).
• Please consider keeping the name of the article as is. Since there are two Universidades del Valle, the University of Valle page would make more sense as a redirect to that disambiguation page. That makes the most sense to me, but that's just an opinion.

--barneca (talk) 14:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Moving a page

I'm sorry but I can't find the tab move, where is it???

Univalle07 13:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

When I go to the article, I see the tabs:

• Article
• Discussion
• Edit this page
• History
• Move
• Watch

All tabs are at the top of the article. -- kainaw™ 14:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

This user has only had his account for one day, so he won't be able to move the page himself, and he won't see the move tab. Go to Request for page move, as described in the previous section. Alternatively, yuo can move pages yourself after 4 days, but in this case you'll still need an admin to help. --barneca (talk) 14:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Moving a page

In the article, I can see the tabs:

• Article
• Discussion
• Edit this page
• History
• Watch

The tab move is not there.

Univalle07 14:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Answered in the previous section. --barneca (talk) 14:12, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Advertising

I have noticed that some of the references link back to comercial web sites. They appear to link to the information pages of these sites.

What is the policy regarding the reference links?

My email address is:

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.202.38.52 (talk) 16:06, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, you can see WP:EL or specify which pages you are talking about and somebody can look into it. - Rjd0060 16:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Submitting A Draft

If I would like to submit a draft of my first article, to ensure it is satisfactory, how would I go about doing this? Who exactly will approve the article? I want the article to be a contribution.

The article covers the brief history of the Apple Springs Eagles, Six-Man Football program. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Apple Springs ISD (talk • contribs) 16:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Are the Eagles notable enough to merit their own article here? Examine these standards: WP:BIO, WP:NN. If you really believe they meeti the qualifications, then simply enter "Apple Springs Eagles" into the search window. When it tells you there is no article by that name, paste the text into the edit window, format the text to article standards, then preview it to see if your formatting is properly done. At that point, it is subject to the judgment of all your fellow Wikipedia editors. (By the way, I'm a little concerned about your username, if that's the name of a school district or something of the sort; we don't allow what are called "role accounts". Each individual must edit under her or his own unique identity.) --Orange Mike 16:35, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I created this account with the specific purpose of editing, revising, and creating articles on behalf of my school district. Our football program itself is extremely significant. When six-man football is discussed in East Texas, Apple Springs comes to mind. Several other franchises and teams are highlighted, so I believe the article will be relevant. The argument could in fact be made that almost all the Arctic les on six-man football are insignificant. This rule seems like a slippery slope to me.

As for my user account, I may create another that is more personal. I wasn’t aware of the policy when I created this account. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.69.27.40 (talk) 17:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Make sure that you read Wikipedia's guideline on reliable sources. If you can find reliable sources which discuss the importance of the team (not just articles about their games and their players), then those sources would help to prove the team's significance. So, if Apple Springs's six-man team comes to mind when football is dicussed in East Texas, there must be reliably-sourced articles which discuss it. However, it might be best if the article about the school were written first, and reliable sources about the significance of the school (and the fact, if proven, that their football team is notable would help to provide notability for the school.) provided. Corvus cornix 19:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

talking to a real person.

How can I talk to a real person about some content on a page... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.87.210.57 (talk) 16:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm a real person. I believe that most of the other editors here are real people also. You should try clicking the "discussion" tab on the article and posting your questions about the content there. -- kainaw™ 16:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Talk page. If you want to actually speak face-to-face with other Wikipedia editors, see Wikipedia:Meetup. However, the vast majority of work on Wikipedia gets done without any need for face-to-face meetings. Wiki technology in general is one of the most efficient tools for remote collaboration yet invented. Wikipedia is one of the best-developed examples of what people can do with wiki technology. --Teratornis 16:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

By far most editors you will encounter are real persons. There are also bots, which are not real persons, but you can usualy identify them by having 'bot' in their name, for example, user:Sinebot who just signed your comment. Martijn Hoekstra 17:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

For example, if you are concerned about any of the content of the article Patau syndrome, then you need to go to Talk:Patau syndrome and express your concerns. Other editors who have that article on their watchlist can then address your concerns, in an effort to make the article better. --Orange Mike 17:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Trying to read between the lines of your question, perhaps WP:IRC, in particular #wikipedia-en-help, may be what you're looking for? If so, read that page, and if you still have questions on how to use IRC, make a note of that here, and someone else (I know absolutely nothing about it beyond the fact that it exists) might be able to help. --barneca (talk) 17:18, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

native american project

I'm trying to do some research about the native American tribe the used the wickiup as a dwelling and what tribe lived in that dwelling and what states or parts of the country they lived in and 3 facts about the tribe of native Americans such as legends,traditions,weapons,tools,food,clothing,art,ect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.55.99.217 (talk) 17:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

See Wickiup, or Native Americans. But if you have any more questions please refer them to the reference desk. As this page is reserved for questions about Wikipedia only. Regards, Rudget _zŋ 17:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Question about a prod request

I'm certain this isn't the place to ask this - I just want to know where to ask... basically, I put a prod request on an article - that's been subsequently edited in what I think is some sort of windup - I want to know how to get someone more experienced to review what's happening.... so where/how do I ask to ensure it gets looked at ? CultureDrone 18:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

If you link the article I'd be happy to take a look. (I must admit, I don't know what you mean by "a windup" however.) Cheers, --TeaDrinker 18:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Are you talking about C.Corsie (originally Cameron Corsie before a move)? I deleted it as an author-requested deletion, even though that's taking a bit of liberty due to the fact than an anonymous user edited it too. But it seems like the creator was having a bit of fun and tried to get rid of it after you noticed it was bogus. Not a big deal. Leebo ^T/C 18:49, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it was C.Corsie - the phrasing just looked 'odd' - but I wanted a more experienced opinion before I did anything else in case it was me at fault. Teadrinker - a 'windup' in this sense is a hoax or prank - I must stop using British colloquialisms !! :-) Leebo - thanks for deleting it. As an aside, is this actually the correct forum to ask for help of this nature ? CultureDrone 19:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem. In the future, you can probably get help here without much trouble, but if you specifically need help with something only admins can do (like deletion), you could try the administrators' noticeboard for non-urgent requests and administrators' noticeboard/incidents for more immediate help. Leebo ^T/C 19:36, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Delete user page and history

I need to delete my user page, and all history tied to it. Is there a way to do this or do I need someone higher up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RooZ (talk • contribs) 19:14, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

It looks like it was already answered on your talk page, but adding {{db-userreq}} will request the page for speedy deletion. --TeaDrinker 19:23, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Acquiring children's teaching activities or projects

A lady showed me several activities pages acquired from your site. Most of hers were religious in content, yet varied: a bird coloring page - a word hunt puzzle - alphabetical sheets with draw lines from column one to column two. How would I go about finding other children's activity and learning lessons?MsProbity 19:22, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia may not be what you're looking for (as an encyclopedia, we don't have much in the way of curriculum materials). Our sister project, however Wikiversity may have something of use to you. I didn't immediately find the information you saw, but a bit of digging may find it. --TeaDrinker 19:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia School and University projects or Wiki Educator may also be of some use, although I wasn't able to find the specific activities you describe either. -- Kateshortforbob 12:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Proposed iSuppli List

My proposed addition of a listing for the company iSuppli was immediately deleted, apparently under the "blatant adverstising" restriction. My submission was consistent in terms of content with current Wikipedia articles about iSuppli competitors IDC and Gartner Group. If my submission is blatant advertising, then the submissions from Gartner and IDC should be removed from Wikipedia for the sake of fairness.

Jcassell 19:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Jonathan Cassell

I can't view the page ISuppli, since it was deleted. You can check with the administrator who deleted it JodyB (talk · contribs) if you think it is consistent with policies. However, Wikipedia does strongly discourages people associated with an organization to write about it (see conflict of interest guideline), and is pretty restrictive when it comes to advertising. See guidline on articles which advertise. Remember, we're an encyclopedia, so (a) companies are only covered if they have substantial notability (see guideline on corporate notability) and (b) all submissions are written in an encyclopedic tone (see policy on neutral point of view). --TeaDrinker 20:06, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

the use of wikipedia

Greetings,

I run a Stargate simulation called SGC under FSF sim group umbrella. With your permission I would to use thelikenesses of the medals on this page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awards_and_decorations_of_the_United_States_military ), to give charcacters awards to our players.

yours truly,

FSFDuke —Preceding unsigned comment added by FSFDuke (talk • contribs) 19:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. Most (if not all) the pictures of awards appear to be public domain, as products of US federal employees. As such they are free to use as you wish. You can double check the license of any image you would like, as well as get larger pictures of them, by clicking on the picture. You should get a screen that looks like this. Under permissions, you see a notice indicating the work is in the public domain. Hope this helps, and feel free to write back if you have any questions. --TeaDrinker 19:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Each image has its own licensing terms; you will need to go to that image's page to examine the terms of the license under which it appears here, to see what would apply to your further re-use of said image. --Orange Mike 19:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

how to change info

Hello - The Nisha Ganatra wikipedia page says that she is a Canadian director - but she is not - how can i change that information? I can only see how to change it in the biography but not the top field. thank you Rufus Clyde 19:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Howdy, the entire page can be edited by clicking the "edit this page" tab at the top of the page. Several sources do indicate that she was born in Canada, however. Thanks, --TeaDrinker 19:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

How to contact Wikipedian who deleted article in error due to typo in title of related article?

Hi Everyone -

I recently created two technical articles:

"Network Virtualization"

and

"OpenSolaris Network Virtualization and Research Control" ........................................^^^^^^^^

The word "Research " was in error. It should have been "Resource" control. BTW, OpenSolaris Network Virtualization and Resource Control" is the name of a product under development by Sun Microsystems open source.

My user name here is stefaniab. Another Wikipedia author, Brian Gupta, who is a member of the OpenSolaris community and known to me, in an effort to be helpful, moved the article with the title "OpenSolaris Network Virtualization and Research Control" to its proper title "OpenSolaris Network Virtualization and Resource Control" less than the recommended four days.

So your Wikipedia admin NapoliRoma deleted the article (momentarily, I guess) and sent Brian a nice note assuring him that it would be restored. NapoliRoma did not contact me, the originator. Moreover, NapoliRoma also deleted my article "Network Virtualization," which cited six different network virtualization technologies with links to Wikipedia references, outside URLs, and other sources. I was not contacted. I tried to contact your editor NapoliRoma to find out why the article "Network Virtualization" was deleted. Instead I got a talk page that seemed to belong to NapoliRoma, not an email address where I could contact NapoliRoma and say "Network Virtualization" was deleted in error, probably in conjunction with the move of the "OpenSolaris Network Virtualization and Resource Control" article.

I hope you will forward this article to NapoliRoma with my explanation since I have no idea how to contact him/her. Also, it's okay for NapoliRoma to continue contact with Brian Gupta, who also is monitoring the situation.

Stefaniab 19:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Network Virtualization wasn't deleted, it was moved to Network virtualization. I don't see that there was ever an article called OpenSolaris Network Virtualization and Research Control. There's an article at OpenSolaris Network Virtualization and Resource Control which is still there. But you should have contacted the admin before coming here, and if you disagree with deletions WP:DRV is the place to request a review. You can contact NapoliRoma at User talk:NapoliRoma. Corvus cornix 20:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

BTW, NapoliRoma is not an admin, and does not have the capability to delete articles. Corvus cornix 20:06, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

To learn why the article title is Network virtualization, see WP:TITLE#Lowercase second and subsequent words in titles. Wikipedia's title case convention seemed strange to me when I first began editing here, but now it looks "correct" to me, which means most non-Wikipedia documents and Web sites are starting to look "wrong." --Teratornis 05:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

The deleted title was "Open Solaris Network Virtualization and Research Control", and NapoliRoma was the user who tagged it for deletion (it was deleted by User:Sam Blacketer). I don't think there needs to be a redirect there, but don't worry - your contributions have been preserved at the new title. Incidentally, it is actually very easy to change the title of an article, but you have to wait until four days after your account was created (that's probably why you were unable to do it yourself) —Random832 16:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

editing a photo caption

One of the photographs in the entry for St. Mark the Evangelist has a caption which is extremely inaccurate. I have written a new caption but it does not transfer over to the original page. In other words, the text looks fine on the editing page, but when I click "save page" nothing changes on the Wikipedia entry. What should I do??Ezwingle 20:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)ezwingle

You were editing the image description page at Image:Venice21.jpg‎. To change the caption that shows in the article, you need to edit the article itself. Find the section the image is in, edit that section, then look for a code that looks similar to this: [[Image:Venice21.jpg‎|thumb|<the text of the caption you want to change>]] Edit that text, and save the page. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Viewing maathematical formulas

Resolved

Resolved below in #Viewing mathematical formulas 2. PrimeHunter 11:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I've tried altering preferences in the Math tab but I cannot get Mozilla to render math formulas. For example, at the link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levi-Civita_symbol

The symbol is always in the form:

\varepsilon_{ijk} = \begin{cases} +1 & \mbox{if } (i,j,k) \mbox{ is } (1,2,3), (3,1,2) \mbox{ or } (2,3,1), \\ -1 & \mbox{if } (i,j,k) \mbox{ is } (3,2,1), (1,3,2) \mbox{ or } (2,1,3), \\ 0 & \mbox{otherwise: }i=j \mbox{ or } j=k \mbox{ or } k=i, \end{cases}

If I right click and select "View Image," it displays correctly on an otherwise blank page.

Internet explorer displays correctly

Thanks in advance for your help

Opticsinfocus 21:23, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Everything looks fine to me while using Firefox. It's possible your preferences aren't set quite right - go to your preferences and click on the "Math" tab. If you select the first option, "Always render PNG", then all math formulas will appear as images and should display properly. Once you save the page, press Ctrl+Shift+R to reload your browser's cache and ensure the new settings take effect, then check the article again. If it doesn't work, try some of the other settings or come back here for more assistance. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:38, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Flickr image for use in Chris Penn article

Hi, this image - http://www.flickr.com/photos/zenny/120848507/ - appears to be licensed under the CC Attribution 2.0 Generic license making it suitable for use on Wikipedia but looks like a promo photo to me. Can someone who knows their way around Flickr take a look and/or contact the creator of the photo for clarification? Thanks. Exxolon 21:38, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Handled correctly?

This user stated he was Magoo (rapper). Based on the of detail (including typos) given in the bio he wrote, I'm forced to believe he is speaking the truth. However, I reverted everything back to its former (somewhat delapadated) state. I added a friendly warning to his page. Was this handled correctly by me?? Or should I have waited for a reply before editing his changes? --Endless Dan 21:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

It looks like you did the right thing. I didn't see any references in the huge bio added, and it didn't have an encyclopedic tone at all, so it probably could have been reverted even if he didn't freely admit to being the subject. If the user has any questions, just be ready to answer them. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 22:14, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Viewing mathematical formulas

Resolved

Resolved below in #Viewing mathematical formulas 2. PrimeHunter 11:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I've tried every combination. I choose the preference, save them, then choose the tab with the link below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levi-Civita_symbol

Then I press Ctrl-Shift-R but the same display occurs. Namely

$\varepsilon _{ijk}={\begin{cases}+1&{\mbox{if }}(i,j,k){\mbox{ is }}(1,2,3),(3,1,2){\mbox{ or }}(2,3,1),\\-1&{\mbox{if }}(i,j,k){\mbox{ is }}(3,2,1),(1,3,2){\mbox{ or }}(2,1,3),\\0&{\mbox{otherwise: }}i=j{\mbox{ or }}j=k{\mbox{ or }}k=i,\end{cases}}$

Opticsinfocus 21:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm really not sure. I've enclosed the code you posted in math tags - can you see it displayed on this page or does it still come up as code? Please respond in this section. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 22:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

When you say that you've enclosed the code in math tags, do you mean the code in my post? That's all I see and it's still in code.

When you say, "Please respond in this section," do you mean where I'm responding now?

Thanks for your help, Opticsinfocus 22:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

No, I actually meant up here. ;-) I did enclose the above code in math tags, so I'm not actually sure what's going on with your browser. If nobody else can offer a suggestion to what's going on, I'd suggest reporting the problem at Bugzilla so the developers can work on it. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 22:32, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

For your information, this is actualy how I, and I assume most users see it: Image:how maths show.png. The source certainly is identical for everybody. Martijn Hoekstra 22:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Four Seasons Centre - minor content edit

The Four Seasons Centre for the Performing Arts is a 2,071 seats theatre in Toronto, Ontario, Canada which had its grand opening Wednesday, June 14, 2006.

• • CHANGE "2,071 seats" to "2,070 seat" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Philsatcocca (talk • contribs) 22:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Leebo ^T/C 22:06, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

• Do you have a source for that information about the number change?- Mgm|^(talk) 05:45, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

adding informaton on a new movement

Over the past few years a group of us have developed a new system called ICAN or Internet Community Action Network. This is a system that empowers people to find, explore and accomplish goals through the Internet. I would like to add information about this system to your site but am not sure how to do it. Can you assist me?

Bill Sarine <e-mail removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wsarine (talk • contribs) 23:12, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), and Wikipedia:Your first article may be of interest to you. Also, for security reasons (Wikipedia's pages are copied and redistributed all over the Internet), please don't post your e-mail address. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 23:15, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Please also see Wikipedia:No original research. In short, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and thus synthesizes already published souces; nothign new and not already written about in a reliable source can be published here.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:24, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

1) Wikipedia is not a place to gain notability; an organization gets an article here after it has already achieved notability. 2) Bluntly, your organization's acronymn is a mistake. You are going to be vulnerable to accusations that you are trying to impersonate ICANN. --Orange Mike 23:37, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to the (sometimes) cruel world of Wikipedia! If the above replies sound harsh, it's because we want to spare you from asking Why was my article deleted? However, all is not lost. Wikipedia is but one of thousands of wikis. You can probably find one that will accept an article on your organization, if you are not able to write about it to our encyclopedic standards. The big sticking point for small or new organizations is lack of notability; from a practical standpoint, that means your article may not have the reliable sources a Wikipedia article needs. A Google search for: ICAN finds several other organizations sharing your acronym; and indeed, Wikipedia already has a disambiguation page for: ICAN. A Google search on your organization's full name: "Internet Community Action Network" finds your organization's site, and some other mentions, but nothing that looks like an independent, reliable published source. One way to create such sources is to contact some journalists and see if they will write articles about your organization. However, if your organization is notable enough for Wikipedia, journalists should already be writing about it. --Teratornis 05:39, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Viewing mathematical formulas

Resolved

The problem was fixed when I:

Right clicked on the code. Choose "block images from upload.wikimedia.org." It was not checked. The code went away. (So I couldn't right click and get the command again. Went to another page where the code was displayed. Right clicked to see "(checked)block images from upload.wikimedia.org." Dragged down and clicked on it. Problem seems now fixed in all pages of Wikipedia.

Thanks for helping me stumble onto the solution.

Opticsinfocus 23:22, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Great to hear your problem is fixed. In the future, if you're posting something in reference to an existing section (in this case, your original question), you may click the [edit] button next to the section header and add your text there. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 02:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

November 16

Small text

I recently reinstalled my OS (Vista) and now Wikipedia is only showing articles in tiny (4pt-ish) text. It's incredibly irritating and I don't know how to fix it. I know it's likely to be a technical issue at my end but can anyone offer any advice? Wikipedia (and other wiki sites) are the only sites on which this occurs. Thanks. Martin Leng (talk) 18:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

You may want to try holding down CTRL and rolling the scroll wheel down. That makes the text larger when I do it, and it should work for you. STORMTRACKER 94 20:06, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I am facing the same Issue, os changed to vista and i am getting extremly small text on the monobook stylesheet, rest all the skins the text is ok. Changing the text size by pressing control does not really help as it changes font size to large, and messes up other websites, one visits. I think there is an issue with the monobook.css file, can someone look into this. Thanks. 202.68.145.230 (talk) 21:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Unresolved

 – Girish (talk) 22:13, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

entry deletion

I've had my entry deleted without reason. it's a biography on 'Manuela Darling-Gansser'. why has this happened and how can i get it back? thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Birri85 (talk • contribs) 00:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

No article is ever deleted without reasoning. In this case the article has been deleted twice: the first time because it was requested by the author, and again under CSD A7 - no assertion of notability. Feel free to contact the deleting admin (User:Sandstein), or take it to deletion review if you feel that it was deleted in error. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 00:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

If you are the author, and don't recall adding a "db-author" tag to it, note that if the author of an article blanks the content, it is considered a request for deletion (although it's only expected to work if the author is the only editor of said article). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 02:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't the original author (the one who deleted the page himself), and did not delete or blank the second one. i'm taking it up with the deletion review as we speak, are they able to undelete my article once they agree that it has a right to exist?--Birri85 02:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, admins have the power to undelete articles. Algebraist 19:08, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Brazil national football team

Some of the tables on the Brazil national football team page are not completed or showing up, see Competitive record. Can anyone who is good with tables take a look? AJSDA115 00:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

It all looks complete to me; what do you see as wrong? Jack 00:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Not sure why but the Copa America/South American Championship and World Cup matches (By team) tables under Competitive record look incomplete. AJSDA115 01:14, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I see what you mean. It looks like some of the lines are missing but the tables aren't missing any data. ---CWY2190^TC 01:20, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Exactly, any help? AJSDA115 01:33, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Deletion Policy

Just a little question with deletion policy. If your not sure weather an article is a candidate for speedy deletion or not, what do you do?? Do you put in the speedy deletion tag or not? Wikipedia is 'about being bold and I am. But I made a mistake on putting on a tag once that I wasnt sure about and I got hounded for it.

What do I do?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aflumpire (talk • contribs) 01:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

If I were in your position, I'd review the policies at WP:CSD and at Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion/Explanations. If I still thought it was a good candidate, I'd tag it. An administrator will make the ultimate call (unless another editor disagrees and removes it). If somebody thought I was mistaken and hounded me about it, I'd apologize and remind them to assume good faith. If you think it may not be a candidate for speedy deletion but might be otherwise inappropriate, you might pursue other avenues in the deletion process. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 01:20, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

• Answered on talk page. In short: Don't speedy if you're not sure and pursue other deletion processes. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:43, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Wannabe Kate Lag?

I realize that Interiot's Tool1 scrapes results off Special:Contributions, but why are it's counts not identical to the counts on Special:Preferences? And how come, no matter how long I wait, the counts seem never to be identical?

Thanks in advance, Perfect Proposal ^{Speak out loud!} 01:35, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

The count in your preferences includes any deleted contributions (edits to pages that are deleted), while the Kate count does not, as Kate only uses edits listed in Special:Mycontributions. - Rjd0060 02:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Cannot download pdf file from commons

I tried the following link from an article several times and from different sites and never got it.

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/BlueArcPhenomenon.pdf

It would apparently partly download then stop.

What can I do? > —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.2.102.108 (talk) 01:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

It downloaded for me fine. I would check the browser settings, internet connection and Adobe reader version. Also try right clicking and save as. Good luck. Dr.K. 01:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Don't you have to have an account to download? Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 03:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Strange question, can't help but ask

Hello, I have a starnge question: say someone has hacked your account. While he is using it, you try to sign in. What happens? Thanks. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 03:05, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but I have had Firefox and Safari both logged in on the same computer, working off different cookies. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 04:10, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Me too. As a fat man, it is often difficult to saunter across the room to make wikipedia edits, so I have my laptop in one corner, my desktop in another. You can "both" sign in and out independently, and I'm sure you and the hacker could edit concurrently. You could even get in an edit conflict with yourself, presumably. Actually let me try this right now.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 09:21, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

The Fat Man Who Never Came back is a malodorous jackanapes.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 09:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

That was the hacker who said that, not me. And, yeah, I got an edit conflict.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 09:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I've had edit conflicts with my self if I accidently click the save page button more than one in quick succession, because it's telling me that "my version" of the page (with four tildes) is different than "the version that is saved" (with the signature expanded). Leebo ^T/C 14:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

It's OK to experience the occasional self-conflict, but try to avoid threatening yourself with legal action. Although it would be interesting if the judge would let you represent both sides in court, and you were to take the stand in your own defense, hopping up and down as you cross-examined yourself. All the while shouting "Objection!" --Teratornis (talk) 01:53, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

why isnt it workin

why dosn't it work when i put what do mmice eat —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.205.74.65 (talk) 03:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I do not know what you are asking, but this is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please go here for such questions. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 03:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Everyone knows mice eat cheese :-)) Seriously though, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so it isn't really set up to answer questions phrased in natural language. Like JetLover suggests above, you could post your question at the reference desk and wait for someone to come by and post an answer; or you could rephrase your search using keywords such as "mouse" and "food" (there's guidance on effective searching here); or you could read our mouse article. Astronaut 04:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Nicknames

For example, I want to write an article about a scientist who was formally known as Robert Jones, but he also wrote under the name Bob Jones. How do I set up an article so that both names would be reflected in the index and could be found by users wither way?

Cyoungmann 03:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Redirect it. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 03:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

To provide a little more information, you should create the article at Robert Jones (scientist), since there are already other articles on other Robert Joneses. You can then add a link to his article to the disambiguation pages at Robert Jones and Bob Jones. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 06:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Identifying British places

I noticed that someone has been going round some articles replacing (for example) "[[London]], [[UK]]" with "[[London]], [[England]], [[UK]]". I don't think the addition of "England" helps the readers or adds value to the articles. I'm tempted to revert these pointless edits, but is there a policy or guideline that says I shouldn't do that? - I've already skimmed the Manual of Style but it didn't seem too helpful with this. Astronaut 03:59, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Technically, it is correct, however I do agree it's not entirely necessary. I'd leave it in, simply because it doesn't really hurt the article, and it would be a fair bit of work to remove it - probably more than it's really worth. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 06:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I'll leave it alone then. Even so, is there a policy article somewhere which clear guidance on naming places?

I just guess I didn't like it because to my british ears it sounds like an americanism. Kind of like an american saying they were going on a trip to "Edinburgh, Scotland" whereas I would simply say I'm going to "Edinburgh". (Yes, I know there's an Edinburgh, Indiana but it's not the Edinburgh).

Astronaut 07:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it does sound very "American" to hear someone say they will be vacationing in "Paris, France" although I have vacationed in Paris, Tennessee. Western Europeans and Americans probably will assume that "London" refers to the one on the Thames, unles they live near one of the several American cities of that name, but smaller cities in the UK would benefit from such disambiguation. Many far smaller cities get referred to in Wikipedia articles without the obviously necessary clarification, like "Phoenixville" [1]. There are cities and geopolitical administrative units in Asia, with populations in the millions, for which many Americans and Western Europeans might not know the country. Edison (talk) 22:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Help.... please!!!

Hello! I'm sorry that I trouble you. I found occasionally your e-mail adress in the internet. I'm from republic of Moldova (eastern europe), please help me, my grandmather is very sick and I haven't enough money for making a health control in order to find out her illness and to cure her. I want to say that my grandfather is paralysed, and no body without me can help them. I want very much to help them, because they brought me up, they gave me everything they could, while my parents have been drunk. If you heard about Moldova and eastern Europe, then you know which is the political and economical level. I have only $120 per month and you realise that is not enough to out live and earn the living for those who halped me. Please, again. If you could help me with something, everything will be recompence by our sweetheart God. Please believe me and think that two lifes are in denger. Sincerelly, it's a shine for me to beg, but I don't see another way. Thanks a lot!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edy2007 (talk • contribs) 06:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the Wikimedia Foundation is itself a non-profit organization and the volunteers at the help desk are neither authorized to send funding on its behalf nor respond to requests that read like email scams. Please also stop posting this message on other pages - Wikipedia is not the place to go to make this request, if indeed it is legitimate. I suggest you speak to a local charity or loan organization. Thank you. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 06:24, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

(EC) I'm very sorry to hear of your unfortunate situation, but Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia, it is not a place to request money. I would suggest that you find a local organization in your community, that would be able to help you with assistance resources. I'm sorry, I'm sure that's not the answer you were hoping for, but I do hope that things work out for you. Sincerely, Ariel♥Gold 06:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Copyright holder cannot be traced

What if a image's Copyright holder cannot be traced? Can I upload such images to Wikipedia? Sai2020 09:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes you can. Everyone else seems to be. But you probably shouldn't. Unless you provide a copyright tag clearly indicating the image's status, the image will be zapped by an admin/bot combination in a very short matter of time. We should assume that someone else holds the copyright, unless you have evidence that it's free.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 09:38, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes, if you can establish other facts about the image, such as when it was created or what type of person created it, you can use this information that the image is not subject to copyright. ike9898 16:10, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Romany History

I have registered, and have tried to write history on Romanys and there life in kent, supported by the gypsy council uk and the Romany Traveller history society. However it keeps being deleted. How can this be stopped, I find it to be rastis as Romany are a enthic group. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.162.238 (talk) 10:34, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I guess you are User:Diamonddannyboy. If "rastis" is an attempt to call the reverting editor racist then you are way out of line. See the article histories [2] [3] which say the material was removed as a copyvio (copyright violation). Apart from that, there were other large problems. For example, don't discuss the original history of the Romani people in an article about an English town like in [4] and the bottom section of [5]. You can discuss with the reverting editor at User talk:LOL. PrimeHunter 11:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Not a Question >> A Suggestion

Suggest removing the edit ability of the daily featured article to prevent jerks like "Ivegotmaddie2" using Wikipedia as a public forum for spreading hate & violence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.24.94.45 (talk) 12:02, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

This has been discussed many times (which just tell you that great minds think alike), and the conclusion reached is that the main page featured article should only be protected during instances of heavy vandalism. While vandalism to such a widely seen article is not uncommon, it is also carefully watched so the vandalism is reverted quickly, and improvements and corrections also occur. Our desire for those outweighs a guarantee of no vandalism. Please also see Wikipedia:Main Page featured article protection.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Have you ever seen an good investigation into the extent of "improvements and corrections" that occur on the day an article is on the main page? If so, do you know where I can find it? It is an interesting question. ike9898 16:14, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

A common argument against protecting the today's featured article is that we shouldn't restrict people from editing the most prominently displayed article when the main page invites "anyone" to edit. Leebo ^T/C 14:45, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can try to edit, but getting one's nontrivial edits to stick may be difficult until one reads, understands, and complies with an awful lot of these instructions. --Teratornis (talk) 01:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Uploading an Image

I'm interested in uploading an image. The link is listed after this message. The link is to a site independent of the official site and is a screencap of a television show. The image would be used only to illustrate the subject matter of the article I have in mind. Can I upload it, and if so, how would I do so? The Clawed One 15:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[6]

what is the appropriate place for this

Where can I find (or post my own) dicussions on the big picture 'theory' of wikipedia? I'm talking about discussions of relatively abstract aspects of the Wikipedia phenomenon, rather that discussion of software features or day-to-day user policy. Obviously, a lot of this would probably fall under original research. Is the a specific part of Meta that covers this? Or another wiki or journal? ike9898 16:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Please take a look at the Village Pump, and see if this is what you're looking for. If not, you could post back here, with a more detailed question about what type of discussions you'd like to see. If your discussion is centered around Wikipedia, then I don't think Meta is really what you're looking for. --barneca (talk) 16:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

See these links under WP:EIW#Community:

• Wikipedia:Wikipedia in academic studies
• Wikipedia:Researching Wikipedia
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikidemia
• "Talk Before You Type: Coordination in Wikipedia", 2007 research paper based on October 2005 database

Also see:

• The Hive, by Marshall Poe, The Atlantic Monthly, September 2006 - an article describing the history of Wikipedia
• Five Things Wikipedia's Founder Has Learned About Online Collaboration

And look through Category:Wikipedia essays to see if anyone else has already written about whatever you want to discuss. ---- Teratornis (talk) 17:05, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

how do i contact an editor about deleting or moving a discussion

Hi, A while back I had a couple of friendly exchanges with editors about info regarding me on a wiki page which someone had created. I didn't know how to properly use wiki editing procedure and so these exchanges have appeared prominently on the first page when one googles my name. I am constantly being asked "what was the dust-up about?" and so forth. It is such a trivial thing but I'd like to know if there is a way to put these exchanges into another place on wiki where they won't show up so publicly on google.

Thank you,

You can blank your own Talk page at ______, and then, when Google re-scans it, they will replace their Google hits on the page with the blank version. As for User:Pepso2, I suggest editing their Talk page and asking them if they would mind removing the discussion about you from their Talk page. Are there other pages you're concerned about? -- Corvus cornix (talk) 17:14, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Another option is to write a page somewhere that answers the question "what was the dust-up about?" Lots of people come to Wikipedia and make incorrect hasty generalizations about it. It seems Wikipedia's remarkable accessibility gives lots of people the impression that they totally understand it at first glance (I certainly formed my share of incorrect initial impressions when I first arrived), when in fact Wikipedia is tremendously complicated and most likely very different than anything most people have used before. If I were you, I'd take this as an opportunity to educate the people you know about Wikipedia. Obviously if they have to ask "what was the dust-up about," they must not know the first thing about Wikipedia, and I would say that's to their disadvantage, because Wikipedia is one of the greatest examples of mass collaboration in the world today. You should encourage everyone you know to study and learn from your experience. Being corrected on Wikipedia is not a badge of shame; rather, it testifies to a fundamental strength of Wikipedia - the presence of active, intelligent human feedback which prevents Wikipedia from decaying into complete chaos. Wikipedia is an exercise in transcending ego just enough to say "We are smarter than me," cultivating sangfroid, and learning the procedures which resulted from Wikipedia's merciless consensus-driven selection process. The world would be a much better place if the type of valuable feedback you benefited from here was available in more contexts. ---- Teratornis (talk) 17:58, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Tagging usernames

What should I do if I see bad usernames? With what could I tag them? -- Mentifisto 17:35, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

If a username is a blatant violation of the username policy, you can report it to usernames for administrator attention. Examples would include patently offensive insults, attacks, and slurs. Borderline names can be given a {{UsernameConcern}} template explaining why some might believe the name to be in violation of the policy and a request that they change it. If it can't be resolved with the template, you may be able to take it to requests for comment/usernames. Leebo ^T/C 17:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, thanks... and usernames that aren't themselves offensive? Like... usernames only registered to promote their company on their userpage and do nothing for WP? -- Mentifisto 17:47, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

The consensus isn't as clear on those. Some feel that you should wait until they've actually started spamming before taking action. Once action is taken, there is disagreement on what the action should be, blocking through UAA or discussion with the user. I think it's a judgment call. If you really feel the user's spammy name is an immediate detriment to the project, you may take different action than if they are willing to discuss it. Leebo ^T/C 17:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually I meant a username that is practically only registered to put the ad on their userpage and nothing else. -- Mentifisto 19:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, any page that exists solely as advertising can be tagged for deletion with {{db-spam}}. If the user isn't doing anything else, there's no need to block them after the user page is deleted. Leebo ^T/C 19:38, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay then, thanks. -- Mentifisto 19:49, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

User:Jerem43/ubx-b-redsox

I tried to nominate this for deletion, but I can't, because I can't create the subpage. Can someone please nominate this for deletion with the text: This is no different than {{User:UBX/MLB-RedSox}}, except that it uses a fair use image, which isn't allowed. Thanks. -- 64.178.96.168 (talk) 17:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Jerem43/ubx-b-redsox -- Woodym555 (talk) 19:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

citeing

How do i cite materials gathered from wikipedia in APA format?

See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia for information on citing individual articles in a variety of formats. You should probably check first though to make sure that whatever you're using Wikipedia to cite allows it. Most teachers don't allow citing Wikipedia. Leebo ^T/C 18:07, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Thread from CHU

Deletion of accounts

I am sorry if this is not the right place. I don't know where to post my request.
I have several accounts on this wikipedia. I would like the other ones to be deleted from all archives for personnal reason I can explain by email.
What can I do ? -- Ceedjee (talk) 20:11, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Original edit. Rudget _zŋ 20:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

For reasons relating to the GFDL, we cannot delete accounts that have been registered. I'm not even sure the capability exists in the MediaWiki software. If you wish to continue editing, you should choose one account as your main account and tag the rest as Doppelganger accounts or simply not use them. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

If there are specific edits that reveal personal information that you want deleted, you may make such request at Wikipedia:Oversight.---- Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:39, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. -- Ceedjee (talk) 21:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. Please note, you'll probably find it through the link above, but requests are actually made at Wikipedia:Requests for oversight. I should have provided that link rather than the former.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:15, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Also see: Wikipedia:Right to vanish. (poof!) And now, for my next trick... --Teratornis (talk) 01:57, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Relist of question - fair use images of unknown sources

In order to resolve something, I have a question I need to ask again.

If the source of an image is not known, then can it still validly be used as fair use. I want to know just for my knowledge, as well as address Image:Nuclear power is not healthy poster.jpg properly. Situation is that the copyright holder is not known, and the source of the image itself is not known, just some people think that they remember seeing it a few decades ago. -Theanphibian ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, I'd say technically, if the rules are followed for what is and isn't fair use it could be used even when the copyright holder isn't known, but you'd have to get a source for the image. It doesn't have to be the original source of the first appearance, but we do need to know where this version came from. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:48, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

3 tries. Emailed password doesn't work. Yes I'm being careful.

The emailed password does not work for my Username. I have done this 3 tries, very carefully.

Username: Sitecreations

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!

I just sent you an email using the "Email this User" tab. If you receive it, then Wikipedia at least has your correct email, and we can go from there. If you don't receive it, then either your email service is slow/broken (in which case waiting is your only real option), or Wikipedia doesn't have your correct email address (in which case, you're pretty much out of luck, as there is no way for anyone to find out what your password is). Or, I just thought of another, could Wikipedia's email be going into your junk mail folder?

If worse comes to worse, you can always create a new account. --barneca (talk) 20:47, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

OK, I see you got my email. So, Wikipedia has your email address. What should happen when you try to log in, you should enter your username (without the "User:" in front), and then just click the "E-mail new password" button on the Login page. All I can really think of now is that Wikipedia email might be getting caught in your junk mail filter. Let us know if this still doesn't work, and someone else might have better ideas than me. --barneca (talk) 20:53, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm getting the impression that the email is being received, but the password itself is not working. Are you making sure to fill in the captcha section accurately? Leebo ^T/C 21:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, Leebo's interpretation makes more sense than mine. Also, keep in mind that the captcha and password are case-sensitive. --barneca (talk) 21:35, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Nuclear War

Is Wikipedia prepared for a nuclear war? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.90.63 (talk • contribs) 21:03, November 16, 2007

Even if the servers don't last, I'm sure the knowledge we've shared will live on for eons to come. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I'm no authority on the matter, but Wikipedia:Preparations for nuclear war and WP:NUCLEARWAR appear to be red links. Leebo ^T/C 21:08, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I would have thought a system would be in place to ensure servers were protected (ie ensure not located near any US Airbases, or commerical airfields with long runways). Then a system to ensure enough admins and editors are around to contribute to articles, and perform other tasks (perhaps some designated survivors?) -- 86.161.90.63 (talk) 21:15, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Any system involving the protection of enough survivors would be a general humanity protection plan... anyone can edit! Leebo ^T/C 21:17, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Not only is Wikipedia prepared for a nuclear war, but if Citizendium doesn't submit to our demands, we do not rule out the use of a first strike. --barneca (talk) 21:24, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

_{I've got five ICBMs warmed up and pointed at the furry wiki ;)...now to buy that silo on eBay...} Don't the OLPC laptops have a static copy of WP 1.0 or something on them? There are plenty of mirrors, even if the main servers were targeted by mustache-twiddlers. Curses, foiled again! -Wooty [Woot?] [Spam! Spam! Wonderful spam!] 00:02, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

HaHa, there will never be a "nuclear war" as it is often imagined. If nuclear weapons are ever used in combat, they'll be small ones ie. tactical rather than strategical--Phoenix-wiki ^{(talk · contribs)} 23:24, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

...that obviously can't be a definitive statement, unless you happen to know the future. --ffroth 06:44, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Changing a title

How do I cahnge letters in the title to uppercase?

Move the page to the correct name and then delete the old one.--Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 21:53, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

 Done - Rudget _zŋ 21:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Citation Needed

Does count as minor edits??? Thanks! (-- Noneforall (talk) 22:11, 16 November 2007 (UTC))

I, personally, would say it does. Just don't forget to specify what you've done in the edit summary. - -- Rjd0060 (talk) 22:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Concur. However, don't add to many m to edits, it can get some users miffed if their looking through your contributions. (Not that they would {looks inconspicious :) }) Rudget _zŋ 22:26, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

The rule of thumb is that you can mark an edit as minor if you are not adding or removing content or changing meaning. If all you are doing is formatting, or making changes that result in the same meaning, then it's minor. A citation needed template would probably count as that, but you should still say what you're doing in the edit summary. Leebo ^T/C 22:33, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

How to get Wikipedia credentials?

There is a group of editors, like Tvoz and Bobblehead, who are calling everyone they don't like socks and are even suggesting to their checkuser friend what language to use. The checkuser is following them and his comments have telltale signs of dishonesty. He doesn't want to say "confirmed" so he hedges enough to get everyone Tvoz hates banned.

There was even a checkuser request on Bobblehead that the suspect checkuser refused to run because it would show guilt.

What should I do. I am sure they will have me banned. So I have requested a checkuser on myself. How do we solve this problem.

I am so disturbed at this bad behavior after weeks of studying it. Before I just read WP but I felt strongly enough to reveal this corruption. Help! Will they succeed in banning me? I think so. WP is just shit if they are successful. 67.115.155.103 (talk) 23:08, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

You can't request a checkuser on yourself, they won't do it. This help desk is not for dispute resolution and you have not presented any evidence to support your case. Resolve this with the users. Leebo ^T/C 23:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

The user tried to delete his own post but a vandal fighter undid his deletion. Sbowers3 (talk) 00:14, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

November 17

My page has been deleted and i have no idea why!

I made it just a couple of minutes ago and it has been removed instantly, I did not have anything that was copywrited on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skulltula (talk • contribs)

What was the article, and who was the deleting administrator? --Orange Mike 00:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I could be more specific if I knew what article this was, but in general there are three processes under which mainspace articles are deleted: 1) speedy deletion; 2) proposed deletion (prod) and 3) Articles for deletion (AfD). For more information, see Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? To find out why the particular article you posted was deleted, go to the deletion log and type into the search field marked "title," the exact name of the article, mindful of the original capitalization, spelling and spacing. The deletion log entry will show when the article was deleted, by which administrator, and typically contain a deletion summary listing the reason for deletion. If you wish to contest this deletion, please contact the administrator first on his or her talk page and, depending on the circumstances, politely explain why you think the article should be restored, or why a copy should be provided to you so you can address the reason for deletion before reposting the article. If this is not fruitful, you have the option of listing the article at Wikipedia:Deletion review, but it will likely only be restored if the deletion was clearly improper. Hope this has helped.. --Bfigura ^(talk) 00:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, so I found out why it was deleted. I didn't add my username next to MY name, which is what the article was about, so I guess whoever deleted it thought I made it with that person's permission, when infact that person was me. Does this mean I have to re-type EVERYTHING, or is there some way I can get it back and make the necessary corrections? The user who deleted it is Academic Challenger. I think. Or at least thats what it says. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skulltula (talk • contribs)

Let me clear this up. The page was Ben Tobias, and it was deleted by the administrator Academic Challenger, who didn't give a reason. However, the reason it was likely deleted was that it did not assert the notability of the subject. There are certain guidelines entries should follow (see WP:BIO), which you are probably not going to be able to meet. If you just mean to describe yourself, and you don't intend to create an entry, you should use your userpage, which is at User:Skulltula. Let me know if you have any other questions. Prodego ^talk 00:44, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I realize Wikipedia might seem confusing at first, (please click on the blue words to read the policy/guide they refer to). Wikipedia is not like other sites you may have come across. First, it is an encyclopedia. Wikipedia is not MySpace, or FaceBook, or a place to host personal webspace, or a place where editors can make articles about anything they wish. Wikipedia has Core policies, such as neutrality, notability, verifiability, etc. What does all of this mean? Well, it means that any article on Wikipedia must demonstrate notability (meaning it must be note worthy, covered by the media, etc.), and have reliable, third-party sources (such as news media articles, magazine/trade journal articles) written about the subject, and the information given in the article must cite those sources to verify it is true. From those sources, information is summarized, paraphrased, condensed, and worded neutrally to make an encyclopedic entry (information cannot be copied from other sites). See Wikipedia's manual of style, layout guide, your first article, article development, and how to edit for assistance. Additionally, you should not create articles about yourself, family, friends, etc., as that goes against the conflict of interest guideline, which relates to editing neutrally. Please also see the guideline on autobiographies. Hope that helps! Ariel♥Gold 00:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Here comes Ariel, upstaging everyone with the most eloquent answer :) Leebo ^T/C 00:54, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Skulltula, you'll need to budget about a month of your spare time to read all the pages the above answers link to, and let them sink in. Then maybe a few years to get through all of this additional material. Unless you are a fast reader. But seriously, the more I've looked into what the Wikipedia community has done, the more amazed I am at how remarkably well-thought-out it all is. It would be nice if more people in the real world were hip to what's going on here, since almost nothing else that I've seen works as well. --Teratornis (talk) 01:48, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Citation needed

Citation Needed

I have had a message as follows:

This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding reliable references. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed.

I have no idea how to put the right citation on my page. It is for Porirua Little Theatre

Could someone please give me the exact code and where do I put it?

I have written the article myself and the plays etc are listed accordingly to the dates I know as I belong to the theatre.

All people listed are friends

Thanks --SphinxGottaGo (talk) 01:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Your first step is to read the policy at WP:V, which explains how every article needs sources to prove not only that it exists, but that it is notable. Then read WP:RS, which explains what Wikipedia considers are reliable sources to verify the notability. For a source to be reliable, it must be independent of the subject, must come from a reputable source (such as a newspaper, magazine, book, etc. which has standards of proving that what it publishes is true), and must be more than just a casual mention (for example, an article in a local newspaper which just mentions that a play is being performed at the theatre would not be a reliable source. An article in the local newspaper which discusses the history of the theatre, would be a reliable source. Welcome to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Corvus cornix (talk) 03:16, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

• For the format, you might like to read WP:CITET, but how you format it is really not that important right now. Get the sources in there. When you've got them, you can ask someone else to help with the formatting if someone doesn't just jump in to begin with. Make sure you don't forget ISBN and page numbers for books and that if you cite a website, that you insert the exact URL and not the link to the site's homepage. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Re-enabling announcements

Okay, I admit that I feel a bit silly coming here, but I'm stumped. I assume everyone has seen the announcement for the upcoming ArbCom elections and the new patrolled pages feature at the top of the page, right? I hit the "dismiss" option (or whatever it was, I don't quite remember) on the announcement when it was just for ArbCom, but now I can't seem to find a way to re-enable them. The only reason I'm asking about making these show back up is because both announcements will show up whenever I'm loading my watchlist, and then disappear when the page is fully loaded. It's particularly annoying because if I try to click something before the page is fully loaded, the notice disrupts the page by creating a space, enough so that my click is interpreted to be on something lower down the page than it actually was. Does that make sense? Hopefully it does. Anyway, I'll keep an eye out for responses here, but people are free to hit up my talk page as well. Thanks gang! GlassCobra 02:09, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Maybe deleting your cookies? I think that when you click dismiss (which I did too) they will return after a months time anyways (or something like that I think I read). Rjd0060 (talk) 02:12, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationales

Resolved

 – (For now anyway) It seems an admin has protected the page.

VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 05:43, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

What is the proper forum for deciding questions of whether a non-free use rationale is valid? If I understand the page descriptions correctly, neither WP:PUI nor WP:CP is for this purpose. Apparently {{di-disputed fair use rationale}} was intended for this purpose, but there seems to be nothing to prevent its removal from an image description page. In particular, there is a revert war on Image:Zaft2.jpeg and Image:Rengo2.jpeg between those who think all current uses are permitted and those who think only one is permitted. WP:MCQ#Copyright dispute about image use in info box has been unanswered for hours. (Oh, and this the proper forum for this question?) --teb728 (talk) 03:38, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

How to add citation?

There is a request for a citation on line 27 of this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kukla%2C_Fran_and_Ollie

There are two ways to verify that "Lili" is based on KFO. The first is that the short story it is based on uses an illustration of the KFO set and is clearly based on the show, and the second is that the book (published later) is dedicated to KFO. How do I cite this and what is the format?

Marknyc (talk) 04:27, 17 November 2007 (UTC)marknyc

• The statement you make about the short story, however obvious would be original research and pretty hard to reference anyway. I'd simply cite the dedication of the book using {{cite book}} or a manual form thereof if the dedication page isn't numbered. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Deleting Major League Soccer player articles

I'm in the process of filling in missing details on players listed on the rosters of Major League Soccer including creating new articles where necessary, yet for some reason some administrators appear to be overzealously deleting these, once before I was even finished with my edits, resulting in an edit conflict (an article on Willy Guadarrama). The first article was deleted for "no context" (Edson Elcock), and the Guadarrama one for "noteworthiness".

Given that in each case the article started with a correctly formatted Football/Soccer player infobox giving the basic biographical information for each along with a link to the relevant MLS roster bio page, as well as the infobox containing plain links to the team on which they are a player, as evidenced by their presence on the team's roster in the linked Wikipedia article for the Kansas City Wizards, are there any sorts of guidelines to prevent someone from doing this so quickly? There were stub articles for other players on the same team with less information in paragraph format than what I've put in the infoboxes that didn't seem to have any questions as to either their noteworthiness or the completeness of the information contained.

ConfusedBradpaton (talk) 05:23, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

• People tend to patrol new page creations more than existing pages that aren't edited. The best tip I can give is to start out with as much information as you can. I usually start a new page in my userspace, until I'm convinced it would survive the scrutiny in the main namespace before I hit the move button and actually move it there. That takes care of the lack of context comment. To avoid having something deleted because of noteworthiness, spell out everything that makes the person noteworthy instead of relying on a link. It should be apparent from the article text why the article is there. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:35, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

How to get non-article pages watched for vandalism?

Like everyone, I sometimes create minor non-article pages, such as a new subcategory or dab page. Thus, nobody else watchlist them against vandalism, but they can still expose readers to vandalism or missing content (content removal on a dab page, decategorized subcat, etc.).

• Is there a dedicated place for listing this sort of pages so that more people can preventively watch them? (At least for minor pages that don't change often and won't burden a watchlist.)
• If not, what would be the more appropriate place or less invasive way to nominate such pages for watching, how do other editors deal with this?

I looked the FAQ or Help:Watching pages to no avail. The best I could find was Wikipedia talk:Requests for page protection where people sometimes discuss pages denied protection and get other people to watchlist them, but I'm not sure they'd like it to become a habit, and I prefer to ask about alternatives first. Thanks. — Komusou ^talk @ 06:13, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't know of a place to request that others watch certain pages. The closest thing is Special:Unwatchedpages (which only admins have access to), which shows pages that no one has on a watchlist. Leebo ^T/C 06:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

• Having a list of non-watched pages available to anyone else besides admins is dangerous because it would allow vandals to seek out easy targets. You could simply ask the people at a relevant WikiProject to watchlist your creation after you made it. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:30, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

• Please note that I wasn't asking for a list of unwatched pages. And besides, the sort of page I talk about ARE watched – by myself alone, which is the problem ;-) But thanks for the answers. — Komusou ^talk @ 14:48, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

My toefl score card

Dear sir/madam ,

I, Mr Namburi Naresh Kumar resident of INDIA .My toefl score card has been sent to me on November 1st and how many days will be it taken to reach me .I am the resident in Hyderabad city in Andhra Pradesh state in INDIA country. Please let me know how many days to reach my city from United States . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.135.91.44 (talk)

As this is the board to ask questions about how to use Wikipedia, I'm unable to answer your question. I'd suggest contacting your local postal office, and ask them what the average time is for mail between India and the US. Cheers, Ariel♥Gold 07:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Printable links

When reviewing good article on featured article candidates, I also tend to look at link usage. Is it possible to have the printable version show underlines on words that contain wikilinks with some personal CSS or javascript code? - Mgm|^(talk) 09:31, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Go to Special:Preferences. Click the Misc tab. Set Underline links to always. That should cause all links to be underlined in the article. However, I'm not sure how to do this for the printable version as well. You might want to check out WP:JS to see if there's a script in there that does this. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 17:08, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Technically they're not links in the printable version, because they will be paper so option one isn't working. I couldn't find anything useful in WP:JS either. Thanks for trying. Any other ideas anyone? - Mgm|^(talk) 21:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation

What do you do when you have Eric Erickson, Eric Erickson (spy), Erick Erickson and Eric Ericson? Some sort of dab page seems to be in order, but how would it be spelled? Clarityfiend (talk) 10:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd use Eric Erickson. It seems to be a more popular name. Rudget _zŋ 12:26, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

WP's references

If WP depends a lot on references then what happens if the references can't be found? Like, websites going down... websites go down easily on the Internet... -- Mentifisto 11:32, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Ideally a reference should be stable enough that it doesn't go down (permanently). References to books, scholarly journals and other publications are also good.

If it does go down permanently, it may still be cited. A link on the Internet Wayback Machine may also be helpful. That said, a web reference which no longer exists is a bad one and a better one should be found. The official policy is at WP:RS.--Rifleman 82 (talk) 11:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

For sources such as newspapers, if the date, newspaper name and page number are included (as required) then the source can still be verified. For net sources, dead links can usually be fixed using the Wayback machine. Jeffpw (talk) 11:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. -- Mentifisto 16:07, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Pasting images

Any idea on how to put images when asking questions??

Add [[Image:Exmaple.jpg]]. Try to edit this section for more information. Best, Rudget _zŋ 13:37, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Film 2001?

Some one moderating the page on film 2001 main page deleted a legitimate reference entry under Scientific Accuracy, the explanation for its deletion makes no sense. Have no way of knowing how to contact the moderator, the entry should be restored since it is relevant. Al Jackson —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aajacksoniv (talk • contribs) 14:00, 17 November 2007

I'm assuming by the word "moderator" you mean an "administrator". Anyway if you can't get in touch with him/her, you might want to check out Wikipedia:Deletion review, it describes how to go about getting the page restored. VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 05:49, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

nowiki

I am having trouble with the nowiki command at Talk:Jon_Burge#Stubbed —Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 15:00, November 17, 2007

It would help if you could give a diff. But basically, all you need to do is enclose it in <nowiki></nowiki> tags. I checked the section you linked to, and I didn't see any issues with the nowiki tags, though. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 17:13, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Could this be a cache issue? Sometimes you make an edit, and though the edit "takes", what you see is your computer's memory of what the page used to look like, i.e., before you placed the nowiki tags. Try clearing your cache (ctrl + F5 on many computers).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:23, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry. The page that I am having trouble formatting is now here.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 20:10, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

O.K. I have gotten User:TonyTheTiger/nunchuck formatted correctly now. How can I get it to either the left or right of my {{cquote}} at the top of my user page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 22:13, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure that's possible but I thought you might like to know that the following free images exist on commons: Image:Nunchaku.png Image:Nunchaku.JPG Image:Safety Nunchaku.jpg Image:20061117 Nunchaku.JPG. Mybe you could make a gallery below the cquote.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:28, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Posting questions

How do I post a question for any user to view?

Hlangley1

If you have questions about how to use Wikipedia, this is the place to ask them. If you have factual questions or are looking for information on a topic, you'll want to check out the reference desk. For questions on technical aspects of Wikipedia, discussions on policy, or proposals, take a look at the village pump. Every page on Wikipedia is visible by anyone with an Internet connection, but this page, the reference desk, and the village pump are the best places for questions. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 17:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Talk page for instructions on how to format your questions properly. --Teratornis (talk) 17:25, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

podcast citation

Resolved

VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 05:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Is there a template for citing a podcast? If not, is there a standard form these citations should take? JFlav (talk) 18:35, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, nevermind. After a more exhaustive search I found Template:Cite podcast. Sorry for the trouble. JFlav (talk) 18:46, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

lime seeds

88.241.220.179 (talk) 19:02, 17 November 2007 (UTC)can I turn pips into seeds88.241.220.179 (talk) 19:02, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about seed. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that does not solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They will be glad to try and answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 19:10, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Adding my biography to Wikipedia

To the Editors:

I am an author who is publishing her first book on politics and sports. My work as a journalist has been published, and the exhibitions of my art work have also been publicized in the press. I come from a family some of whose members have appeared in the press and are part of American historical content.

I want to publish a page about myself, which will include mention of my book and its contents. I also have a website.

I want to make sure the content is appropriate. The directions for adding a page are somewhat unclear in this regard when the person adding content has gained some recognition but is not high profile as yet. Please let me know how to proceed.

afcook77

Publishing articles about yourself is considered a conflict of interest, sorry :( However, someone else may very well create an article about you. Happy editing! ( arky ) 19:20, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

You must also make sure the article fulfils the requirements of biographical notabilty so the subject of the article (i.e. you) isn't considered non-notable and is deleted. The writer of the article must also provide decent references to back up their claims. Feel free to ask further about things like this, we'll be happy to help. :-) Lradrama 20:13, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Firefox's Wikipedia search function

I just had to reinstall Windows XP on my computer, and afterward I reinstalled Firefox 2.0. I then added the tool that allows Wikipedia to be searched in the little window in the upper right-hand corner, which I had before the reinstall. Previously, when I entered a term in that search box, it took me straight to the article (much like typing an article name in Wikipedia's own search box and hitting "Go"). Now, it takes me to Wikipedia's search page, where I have to click on the article name to get there (much like hitting "Search" in Wikipedia's search box). Does anyone know how to fix it back to the convenient way? Also, previously I could go to a Wikipedia article simply by typing "wp article" in the URL box at the top of the screen; that doesn't work any more. Any ideas how to fix that? —Angr 20:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Thats odd. The WP search box on Mozilla works fine for me. Anyhow, try the Reference Desk, as this help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. - Rjd0060 (talk) 21:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, I asked here because (indirectly at least) it is about using Wikipedia! But I'll try the reference desk anyway. —Angr 22:04, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

How to cite a source

If I am adding new information to an article, how do I cite the website where that information came from?

24.224.196.95 (talk) 20:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Most simply, you add the website address between <ref ... </ref> tags after the information you wish to cite. At the bottom of the article, make sure there is a references section with either {{relist}} or <references/> in it, so your ref will show up. You can add as much or as little information as you like between the tags, and you could use the cite web template at citation templates to make it more structured. (All the information in cite web is optional except name, url and date accessed). More information at Help:Footnotes. -- Kateshortforbob 21:04, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Delete a wiki?

Ho can I delete my wiki —Preceding unsigned comment added by Supergirl2996 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Well that depends what you mean by 'wiki'. Do you mean a single page, or an entire website? Prodego ^talk 21:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

To delete a page on Wikipedia, you can use one of the methods at Wikipedia:Deletion. Unfortunately, since this page is only for help with Wikipedia and not the MediaWiki software, we can't help you with off-site wikis. You may want to contact a user with administrative permissions on that wiki, if there is one. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 22:01, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Can someone edit a page for me, I'm worried I will mess up the page?

Is there anyone I can contact to fix an error in the page for George Harrison?

His birthday was the 24th of Feb at 11:50 and for most of his life he thought it was the 25th, finding out just months before his death.

I'll look for an official sitation, but I don't really want to edit the piece, it's all very new to me, and I'm worried I'll screw something up.

I didn't know if there was someone who was kinda the editing overlord that wouldn't mind to fix it.

Just wondering.

Thank you. Kamilla Onecheekyhobbit (talk) 21:57, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead and add it! Editing Wikipedia is really easy. You may want to read the pages below before editing however. NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 22:01, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Further reading: Wikipedia:How to edit a page, Wikipedia:Citing sources

One of the footnotes in the article states "Harrison started a rumor that he was born on 24 February as a joke. All reliable sources show his birth date as 25 February." The issue is further disucces on the article's talk page, at this post: Talk:George Harrison#George Harrison's birth date. I suggest you re-broach the topic on the talk page and provide reliable sources which verify that the information is indeed correct.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:13, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Go on and be bold, there is no way to "break" an article. VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 06:04, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Can I use Wikipedia articles and pictures to post on Yahoo! store pages?70.181.79.58 (talk) 23:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Can I use Wikipedia articles and pictures to post on Yahoo! store pages without running into legal issues? I want to use as informational material, history behind appliances used today.70.181.79.58 (talk) 23:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but you might try asking this over at Wikipedia:Copyrights, the people there should be able to help you better. VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 06:01, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

I forgot my password

What do i do if i forgot my password and did not put in an e-mail? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.92.71 (talk) 23:48, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there is no way we can retrieve your password if you did not put in an e-mail. You should create a new account and attribute edits to the old account on the new one. --Hdt83 ^Chat 23:49, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

• And with the new account, either not forget the password, or include an email address this time round. -Mgm|^(talk) 09:39, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Better still, both. Regards, Ben Aveling 10:53, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation page

I'd like to create a disambiguation page for the 2 television shows Good Morning, World and Good Morning World. How would I go about doing so?

Matt 23:58, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Disambiguation.--Max Talk (+) 00:19, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages aren't really needed for only two articles with a similar name. I'd instead, suggest using a hatnote. Ariel♥Gold 00:39, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

November 18

Combining references

Is there any way I can combine it if I list the same website as a reference for multiple facts? Matt 00:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

You can cite the same source multiple times by inserting a name into the ref tag. For example, like <ref name="Source1"> Sourcing Info </ref> . To refer to the source again, just use <ref name="Source1"/>. Cheers, --Bfigura ^(talk) 00:40, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Main page complaints

how do I submit a complaint/suggestion to the editors of the front page?

Perhaps this suggestion can simply be forwarded to a proper destination...

My complaint is that I don't think Wikipedia should have an image of lung-cancer on the first page. It is somewhat disturbing, and I imagine that most people who visited Wikipedia today did not want to see it.

Thanks - Jeff

Main page complaints should be made to Wikipedia talk:Main page. I would like to point out though that Wikipedia is not censored. Woodym555 (talk) 01:24, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Log in problem

Hello, It's been a while since I last logged into Wikipedia, and I forgot my password, so I had a temporary password sent to my email. After I logged in with that, I reset my password, so at that point I was supposed to be completely logged in. However, underneath the notice that I am now being logged in, there is a red box that says that there was a login problem and I should try again. I do, and it doesn't work either with the temporary password or the new one I entered. I have tried this while process twice (having a second temp. password emailed to me) and I still can't log in (I am entering the test words in properly). Can I get some help with this problem? Sorry I'm very new to this, I don't quite understand how I'm supposed to sign my name.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.40.188 (talk • contribs)

What is your username? So, you are receiving the emails? Have you made sure you are using the right case, the passwords are case-sensitive. You also might want to check that you are adding in the right CAPTCHA? Remember that it is case-sensitive also. Umm, apart from that I not sure. (Oh, you sign by using ~~~~) Woodym555 (talk) 01:39, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Photo

I am trying to add a picture to a page. I tried to upload a photo and I think it worked but now I don't know how to find it let alone put it on the page I desire to?

Hi there. It looks like the image is here: Image:Superior-lighthouse-horcapt-tom-mackay.jpg. To link to it, use something like [[:Image:Superior-lighthouse-horcapt-tom-mackay.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]. More info can be found at WP:IMAGE. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 03:35, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Log in problem continued

Hello, thanks for the suggestions, but in response: - I am receiving the emails, - I am careful about using the correct cases, - and I am putting in the correct CAPTCHA.

Other than that, I don't know what the problem could be. Maybe I should just create another account, I don't know if there are special rules about this. My usename is Imola I — 99.238.40.188 (talk) 02:08, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

userbox

How do I put the userbox on my userpage?

Just go to a user page which has the userbox you want and click edit this page and copy the code and paste it in your page. That's how I do. Hope that helps

Sai2020 03:14, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Can lyrics be added to Wikipedia?

I'm a newbie and I got this idea that it'll be nice to add the lyrics of the song to the song pages. I did that to You Are Not Alone and Billie Jean. But in Billie Jean, they were deleted and the user wrote on my talk page that "wikipedia is not lyrics website but u can link it".

Can I put the lyrics or not? Sai2020 03:19, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

I think this would generally be a copyright issue, unless the lyrics have been released into the public domain. So, in short, no, I don't think so. I think it also might be against the manual of style, but I could be wrong. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 03:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

(ec) Unless the lyrics are licensed under a free license, which seems unlikely for most, no. You can link to the lyrics on the artists' or record companies' web sites, but linking to a site that violates a copyright isn't allowed either. WODUP 03:34, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks people. I'll remove them. Sai2020 04:15, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the editor who told you that you can link to a site with lyrics on it is not quite correct. If the site is also violating copyright, WP:EL recommends against linking to it. If the site is to the recording company's website, or some other entity which has the rights to the lyrics, then that would be okay. Corvus cornix (talk) 06:35, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Lyrics and poetry. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:19, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

track searches

is there a way for me to track the searches ive done? sorry if the answer is obvious but i did look first. thanks baliyaBaliya (talk) 03:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... no one's answered this yet, so I will. There isn't a way within Wikipedia, but if your browser supports autofill, you can probably see the text you've previously entered into the search box. I know I can with Firefox. WODUP 06:44, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

editing a page

do i need to be a professional to edit a page. I found that there are spelling errors and missing information on "stress". i would like to edit it, but was not sure if i was able to do that —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aajacobs (talk • contribs) 23:20, 17 November 2007

Hi Aajacobs. Please be bold and make your improvements. You might want to check out a few introductory pages, such as Wikipedia:About, Wikipedia:Introduction and you might try taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial to be introduced to the markup we use and the formatting we recommend. In answer to your question, I quote from the first link: "Wikipedia is written collaboratively by volunteers from all around the world. Visitors do not need specialised qualifications to contribute, since their primary role is to write articles that cover existing knowledge; this means that people of all ages and cultural and social background can write Wikipedia articles. With rare exceptions, articles can be edited by anyone with access to the Internet, simply by clicking the edit this page link."--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:43, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

A deletion.

Just wondering why the "Sydonia" (a music group) entry was deleted ? If it didn't have references it wouldn't hev been hard to find some. There are even links to the entry from stonesours (a very large American band) entry that now lead to a dead end, weird....

Can someone please write a decent entry about this band ? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.246.188 (talk • contribs) 23:31, 17 November 2007

From your question, I would hazard a guess that it was deleted because it didn't have references - or at least didn't have references to establish that it was notable. It is the job of the author to provide references. If you are interested in such an article, it would be good if you gathered the references, then request that the article be undeleted so you can add the references. Sbowers3 (talk) 04:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

It should be also noted, that not just any site is a reliable, third-party source, which is what is needed to demonstrate notability. You can read through the policies and guidelines to get an idea of what articles are appropriate for an encyclopedia, and what articles are not appropriate for Wikipedia. Cheers! Ariel♥Gold 04:51, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Cumberland Ward

There is a new article named Cumberland Ward, describing a city ward in Ottawa, Canada. My first thought is that Ward should be lower case. Then I looked at Cumberland, which points to Cumberland (disambiguation), which points to a Cumberland (ward) in ancient England. Then there is also a Cumberland, Ontario (city) amalgamated into Ottawa and probably the current Cumberland ward. So all in all there perhaps should be some moving, merging, and disambiguating but it's a bit beyond me. Would WP:EAR be a better place to raise this issue? Sbowers3 (talk) 04:35, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

A quick Google search indicates the full name name of the city is "Cumberland Ward", as opposed to England's ward of Cumberland. Another words, the whole name is a proper noun, and as such, should be capitalized (just as the "city" in New York City should be, as opposed to the city of London.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:53, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah! Of course. Sbowers3 (talk) 13:05, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

I cant edit a page

I am trying to edit some mistakes out of the page on 'Anna Span' but there is no option to edit, please can you help me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Porndirector (talk • contribs) 11:31, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

There is a tab at the top of the page, that says "edit this page". Click that, or alternately, click the [edit] link to the right of a section to edit a particular section. See How to edit, Manual of style, Layout guide, Article development, and First article for assistance. Hope that helps. Ariel♥Gold 11:43, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

my user name

I just joined wikipedia, and gave my user name as hughhill but what came back was Hughhill without the option of accepting or refusing. I would rather use HughHill or hughhill, but not Hughhill, is there any way that I can resolve this.

yours sincerely

Hugh Hill

Sure. Since your edit here is your first, you have no contributions that need attributing to another name, so just create a new account with a differently capitalization scheme. Keep in mind that the software automatically forces the first letter to be capitalized. By the way, please sign posts to discussion pages such as this by typing four tildes (~~~~) at the end, which automatically formats to your signature and a time stamp upon saving. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:05, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Spaces are allowed so you could also choose Hugh Hill. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:14, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

How to you create a new addition to wikipedia

Dear Sir/Madam, How do you create a edition to WIKIPEDIA? ie not add something to an entry but create a new entry Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.176.91 (talk • contribs) 14:22, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Starting a newpage - that will give you all the information on starting a new page. Good luck! Qst 14:28, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

(e.c.) Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:Articles for creation (since you have not logged in, you must request the article be created) will be of interest to you. Also, please sign comments by clicking the button above the edit window (but not on articles). NF24^{(radio me!}_{Editor review)} 14:30, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Details about a company-Relegare

Is there any company, European, britsh or American, having a part of its name as Relegare? If i want its details.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.184.183.209 (talk • contribs)

Sorry, this is for Wikipedia-related questions only. The helpful folks at the reference desk will be sure to help you with this matter. —Qst 15:34, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Certainly this question is better asked there than here, but I think availing yourself of a Google search is your best option.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:39, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Assamese Key board

Dear Sir, For typing Assame…se Scripts in the Key Board, how can I get it . And how to change the Size of the Scripts ?

Rgds kmdeka

Sorry, your question appears to be unrelated to Wikipedia. The Help desk is for Wikipedia related questions, only. I suggest asking the friendly folks at the reference desk. Regards, —Qst 15:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Ipatinga kits

I don't really have the resources necessary for the job so I was wondering if someone could make the following pictures able to go into a football (soccer) article. To do this someone would have to break them up into different sections, see here. And please remove the red as well, Wikipedia kit designs are not suppose to have a lot of detail. If someone isn't able to do it or if this isn't the place to ask can you point to me someone who will be able to do it. Here are the pictures: . Thanks, AJSDA115 (talk) 16:55, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Map as reference?

In Baltimore, Maryland, I inserted the fact that the city is at the northern edge of its climate zone. After some resistance, I decided to list a map as a reference.[7] I was never sure about using maps as references, but after I saw it in Climate of Florida (see the first reference), I went ahead and put it in. Is this sufficient for WP:V? and is listing that the city is at the northern edge unencyclopedic (I have also seen this in other articles)? JScott06 (talk) 16:59, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

I should think so. I've used it lots of time. Although that might not mean it's the right thing to do. :) Rudget.talk 18:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Biographical article

Hi ,

I want to know how I can write about a person about whom there is nothing in WIkipedia. I person whom I want to write is a famous researcher in Robotics and I want to add him and his achievements in the wkipedia. Please help me understand how I can do this.

Thanks, Krithika

Hi Krithika. Please click this link: Wikipedia:Article wizard/biography.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:39, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

To add to the above point, you can go to Help:Starting a newpage - that will give you all the information on starting a new page. Also Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:Articles for creation may be of your interest. First you may want to register an account in wikipedia, though this is not necessary to create an article, but this will provide you several benefits. So, happy editing. DSachan (talk) 18:51, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Pakistani serial killers.

Javed Iqbal (serial killer) and three persons more are Pakistani serial killers but the category Pakistani serial killers doesn't exist. Can you create this category?

Done: Category:Pakistani serial killers. Will you add them? Also note List of serial killers by country#Pakistan. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:00, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

I just edit conflicted with the answer: No category is needed (see Wikipedia:Overcategorization#Small with no potential for growth). I think the category just created should be deleted.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:07, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Me too. It would have a limited content inclusion. Rudget.talk 18:08, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Overcategorization#Small with no potential for growth says: "Avoid categories that will never have more than a few members, unless such categories are part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme". Category:Serial killers by nationality has many subcategories with one article. The poster wanted a category for 4 Pakistani serial killers (but it's unclear whether the other 3 have articles). There is currently no category for serial killers without specified nationality, and I think serial killers should be categorized in some way. You could suggest a reorganization at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Criminal Biography/Serial Killer task force. I support the current system. Categories of form "Type X people in nation Y" are very common and practical. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

About Pakistani serial killers again

Thanks to the Danish wikipedian for create Category:Pakistani serial killers but I have a question:

Javed Iqbal (serial killer) (42 years old) is the first but he had accomplices: Sajid Ahmad (17 years old), Mamad Nadeem (15 years old) and Mamad Sabir (13 years old). Do can I create three articles by Ahmad, Nadeem and Sabir?

Thanks again. Ahmed987147 (talk) 18:31, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, but I can expand the articles of Javed Iqbal and the three accomplices..

If they meet the criteria of WP:BIO, then yes you can. If there isn't much to write about them, it'd be better just to include descriptions of the accomplices under an article with a name that depicts what the killings were referred to as. Lradrama 18:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

merging an old account with a new account

I had an old account (mrnmibrc) which I never used. Recently I accidentally logged in and edited a page (inflammation) with this old account. Is it possible to merge my old account and my new (read: active) account so that there is no further confusion, and so that the credit for my recent edit on my old account goes to my current (and more recognized) account? Thanks, Ibrmrn (talk) 19:30, 18 November 2007 (UTC).

I believe you want to check out Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations. Good luck! GlassCobra 19:34, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Cobra. I checked it out. I need to acquire the edit records on my old account, but not the name, so the usurp page doesn't fit my needs. Thanks for your help. Ibrmrn (talk) 19:39, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Replied on users talk page. Tiddly-Tom 19:50, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Improving Trivia Guidelines

Some editors have been deleting Trivia text from articles without consideration of the lost content. The style guideline should be made clear, do not just delete text, re-edit it into another form. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.0.34 (talk • contribs) 16:17, 18 November 2007

That is how the style guideline is written, see WP:TRIVIA. If you come across editors who are doing this, you may wish to politely speak with them about the removal. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:21, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

The user is User:EverybodyHatesChris and they've been involved in editor spats and currently blocked from editing so I suspect they've moved on to a new alias; furthermore they heavily edited Everybody Loves Raymond and I couldn't locate the lost text.

How do I shot web? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.0.34 (talk • contribs) 16:29, 18 November 2007

You can go to the History of that article, find the version (here it is[8]) just before he removed the trivia, edit the old version, copy the "lost" text, then cancel editing, edit the current version, and paste back into the current version. Sbowers3 (talk) 22:39, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

I received a message claiming vandalism, yet I wasn't logged in nor were the accusations correct?

I was browsing through wiki articles, when I was approached by a yellow box claiming I had a "new message", though I was not logged in nor have an account for that matter. Confounded, I clicked and the message indicated a bot had cleared out some vandalism for the article on "Carrot"'s of all things. I've never visited that article before, and it claimed the phrase "we love the Jews" or something totally absurd like that had been written and was removed. I really could care less since I've no idea what it was talking about, but was the message being sent to me a glitch? Or have you stored my IP address and this could somehow affect my future use of wikipedia?

Just trying to keep my name clear of any false charges that might affect future editing (though I've yet to contribute anything) or usage. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.66.97.204 (talk) 21:50, 18 November 2007

The IP you are currently edited from has made no edits other than this and has never received any warnings. So, this must mean that you were edited from a dynamic IP address. This means that since your IP changes, you may inadvertently receive messages intended for someone else. To avoid this, you can create an account. By creating an account, you ensure that all your edits are attributed to you and only you, and you will never receive messages meant for someone else. And don't worry about that earlier warning: if you didn't make the edit, you won't be blamed for it. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 22:14, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

You must have visited Wikipedia with IP address 72.66.94.241 which is in the same IP range as you used to post here. The message you saw is at User talk:72.66.94.241. The vandalism was this old blanking of the Carrot article in 2006. "We love the Jews!" was not part of the bot message. It was added afterwards by the IP itself.[9] Don't worry about it. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:03, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Question on fair use review

I have a question on fair use review. Suppose I have doubt whether an image qualifies as fair use or not in an article. There is a tag called {{fairusereview}} so I think one places this tag on the image. When done so, it displays the following:

A user has requested a review of the status of this image under our policy for non-free content. Please do not remove this template until an independent review has taken place.

Now what is this "independent review" mentioned here? Is this an admin looking at the situation and deciding? Or is it a discussion for consensus at WP:FUR much like, say, an WP:AFD discussion? As far as I see, placing this tag does not automatically generate a discussion section at WP:FUR so should the tag placer also make such a section when placing this tag? I ask this because I saw many images with this tag but no corresponding sections at the WP:FUR so was wondering what the official procedure is. Thank you... --Kudret abi^Talk 23:00, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Author and copyright

What is the author and copyright of wikipedia

If you're looking to cite a Wikipedia article for a school paper or something, please see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Articles on Wikipedia are written by a wide range of contributors, and are not owned by any one editor. All text contributions and most images are not copyrighted, but are available under a free license known as the GFDL. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Correction: they are copyrighted. The license just gives people the right to reuse material under certain circumstances. But the authors still keep their rights. Rights and licenses are two separate things. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

My mistake. Sorry. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

November 19

Clarity in an Article

In an article, I found that some text was unclear, but I do not have the expertise necessary to correct it. How exactly do you tag a page for clean-up step by step, because I cannot find how to do this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoyo502 (talk • contribs)

See Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup for a lot of possible tags. What is the article? PrimeHunter (talk) 01:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

The simplest way to do this is to simply edit the page and place {{cleanup}} at the top. See the link above if you want to use a more specific message. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 03:59, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Question

Resolved

Tell me could I use Norfloxacin for a tooth pain. I do know what it is for just wonder if I could use it for something beside my bladder. Thanks

Hi, this is an encyclopedia help desk, not a pharmacy I'm afraid. So we cannot dispense medical advice. Take care. Dr.K. (talk) 01:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

With all due respect Dr.K., we can. See Science Reference Desk or Norfloxacin

This question was not for medical advice, but for information on a drug, which should be part of an encyclopedia.

Cheers, Lex^{94 Talk Contributions Guest Book} 02:10, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but I disagree. The question was about use for a drug, not only information. The article for Norfloxacin doesn't mention applications as headache medicine. How can anyone know if it can be used this way if they are not a medical doctor or a pharmacist? Dr.K. (talk) 03:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

All drug articles here on wikipedia, have information on uses, chemichal components, etc. At the bottom of the Norfloxacin article, it says the article is a stub (which means it is lacking information). The information the user asked for should be in the article, just like all drug articles. Lex^{94 Talk Contributions Guest Book} 03:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Lex94, please carefully read the disclaimers linked to in my post below. We cannot offer any medical advice nor make any sort of assertion that information in the articles is correct. Some information on the use of the drug should be included in the article, yes, but we cannot tell people that that information is correct and to go by it in favor of asking a licensed professional. Please read the disclaimers. This discussion needs to end. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:26, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not authorized to give any sort of medical advice. A licensed professional in the appropriate field should be sought for such questions. Users reading the content of these articles do so at their own risk, as there is no guarantee as to the validity of the content of the articles. Please see our disclaimers, linked to in the previous sentences. If you are volunteering at the Help Desk, please make yourself familiar with the instructions if you have not already and make no attempt to give medical, legal, or any other form of professional advice. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:07, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

signature

How do I decorate my signature, as in change how it looks?Kitty53 (talk) 04:16, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, you appear to already have a custom signature, since you have more than the standard link to your user page. First, you have to go to your preferences and check the "raw signature" box. Then in the signature line you have to edit it to look the way you want. Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing your signature has more info. If you're specifically talking about colors and stuff, that's HTML code. I figure you already have the basic raw signature down though, since you seem to have customized it already. Leebo ^T/C 04:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that signature is customized. Mine is the same way (with the link to the user page and the talk page) and I didn't change it. One day it just started doing it like that, so I guess the software has changed. - Rjd0060 (talk) 04:57, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, that must have been very recently. Leebo ^T/C 05:14, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, 2-3 days ago is when I first noticed it. - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:33, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

It was changed after Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#User signatures should link to both the user page and user talk page by default. It became active 16 November. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:07, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Excellent idea. I don't know why this hadn't happened before. Lex^{94 Talk Contributions Guest Book} 15:56, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

• User:Kitty53; here's a way to basically color your signature:

Write this in preference tab:

'''<span style="border: 2px darkviolet solid;background:lavender;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Kitty53|<font color="fuchsia">Kitty</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kitty53|<font color="fuchsia">53</font>]] [[User talk:Kitty53|<font color="MediumSlateBlue">(talk)</font>]]</span>'''

Result: Kitty 53 (talk)

If you want different colors, see Web colors Cheers, Lex^{94 Talk Contributions Guest Book} 15:56, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Note that not all the colors listed in web colors are actually supported by all browsers - and if you stick to the 4096 colors on the 16x16x16 color cube, you can reduce the number of bytes (every byte counts, since you're limited to, i think, 512). '''<span style="border:2px solid#90c;background:#eef;font-family:Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Kitty53|<font color="#f0f">Kitty</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Kitty53|<font color="#f0f">53</font>]] ([[User talk:Kitty53|<font color="#76e">talk</font>]])</span>''' for Kitty53 (talk) - note, though, that many people dislike borders and background colors in signatures. —Random832 20:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Isn't the max signature length 255 characters? That would make both of the above suggestions too long to fit, though with Random's you could remove the bolding. Leebo ^T/C 20:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

making my page

where do i start to begin making my first wikipedia page ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Messy jessy94 (talk • contribs) 00:00, 19 November 2007

See Wikipedia:Your first article. Good luck! GlassCobra 05:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Firefox Search Engine Plugin

Could someone help me create a Firefox Search Engine Plugin for the search engine at http://online.wsj.com/public/us . Also, is it possible to create one for the quote search at http://finance.yahoo.com/ ?

Hi. This help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. You should try the Reference Desk instead. - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:34, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

My query is for WP. Donald Trump was in the Wall Street Journal. I am the leading editor of his page and I need to do some research.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 18:32, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Contributing to discussion page

According to Wikipedia If I want to contribute to a discussion on a particular topic I should " go to the talk/discussion page associated with the article, hit the "+" tab, and make a comment on what you think needs changing. Remember to please end your comment with four tildes like this 129.33.1.37 (talk) 05:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC), which will sign and timestamp your comment." For some reason, nothing happens. my account is firly new and perhaps I do not have access yet, but I can select edit on a page and edit the wiki, if I wanted. Thanks Spiker_22

Everything seems to be working just fine. See Special:Contributions/129.33.1.37. It shows you have successfully made some edits, to talk pages too. - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:43, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

yes I have successfully contributed to a discussion page, but only by selecting edit for a particular section that has already been created. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.33.1.37 (talk) 08:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, when you click the '+' tab what exactly happens? Raven4x4x (talk) 08:19, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

In case you don't know, the '+' tab is a clickable link at the top of a discussion page, to the right of "edit this page". It is unrelated to the '+' key on your keyboard. If you are logged in and your skin in Special:Preferences is not MonoBook (default) then the '+' tab may be missing or placed differently. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Donating wikipedia

I have a question regarding the donation of wikipedia. why the donation counter started from 0 because I have already donated and the donation already reached 150 million so why again only 24891 people are showing up ?

I'm not completely sure what you're asking, but I believe the donation drive starts from zero every year, so donations from last year's drive won't be counted again this year. I think in previous years, donations were measured in terms of $ amounts, but they changed it to number of donations this year, a few days after the drive started. -- Kateshortforbob 10:37, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Mh, the donation counter does not show donations from when Wikipedia started, it will only show donations made to the Foundation from a set town. Thanks for donating! —Qst 10:38, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Submitting my sites: The Bedford Menufinder / The Bedford Good Pub guide

Please can you tell me how I can submit my websites for inclusion under EXTERNAL LINKS on the BEDFORD pages ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford My sites are : www.thebedfordmenufinder.co.uk Comprehensive guide to Eating out in Bedfordshire with menus www.thebedfordgoodpubguide.co.uk Comprehensive guide to Public Houses and Inns in Bedfordshire with menus —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gdsouza208 (talk • contribs) 08:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't think these are suitable links for Wikipedia, please see Wikipedia:Spam and Wikipedia:External links. Reagrds, —Qst 10:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Counting created articles

Is there a way of counting/listing the articles created by a given user? --Redaktor (talk) 08:36, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Articles not older than 1 month will be listed in Special:Newpages (if you type the user's username into the address bar), or you can also go to Special:Contributions and type there username in, to view a certain users contribs to Wikipedia. —Qst 10:36, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but neither of those allows me to count all the articles created by a user! There surely must be a method of doing this. --Redaktor (talk) 23:14, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I did a search and and this has come up quite a few times so there's definitely a desire for such a tool. Unfortunately, it also appears that no such tool exists. See here and here. The long and short of it is that at one time there may have been a public tool (not working) and User:Interiot would do this upon request, but has been inactive since July. You may have to bite the bullet and start scanning your contributions manually.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

inclusive program

help me to find description of the following current issues & trends- implications to sped/teachers/academe/non acdeme about inclusive program- implications to children with specific disability —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.4.33.128 (talk) 11:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi. This help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. You should try the Reference Desk instead. --Orange Mike 14:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Discussion

For the subject ROBERT T LINCOLN it let me add a comment then did not show the info showing that it was me that added the comment. Was this because I hadn't logged in? If so, why does it even let me add a comment without logging in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Myszkowiak (talk • contribs) 13:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Are you referring to this edit to Talk:Robert Todd Lincoln? It is still there. Please sign talk page comments and help desk posts with ~~~~. Then it is added who made it. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:51, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi. It let you make a comment without logging in because Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit and logging in is not required. Also, Wikipedia does not automatically sign comments. You need to sign yourself either by typing ~~~~ after your notes or by clicking the tildes next to "Sign your username" beneath the "save changes/show preview/show changes" buttons below the text entry box. Sinebot will often come along and take care of this for you, but it doesn't always, so it's a useful habit to get into doing so yourself. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:52, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Changing redirects

"Using the form below will rename a page, moving all of its history to the new name. The old title will become a redirect page to the new title. Links to the old page title will not be changed; be sure to check for double redirects (using "What links here") after the move. You are responsible for making sure that links continue to point where they are supposed to go."

Why should I waste my time changing redirects when the Wikisoftware is capable of forming a list, and therefore also conceivably capable of changing the redirects itself, in the blink of an eye? --Seans Potato Business 13:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

In some cases you don't want to do that. For example: there were multiple articles referencing [[Susan Wood]] which turned out to be referencing at least four, possibly more, women of that name. I created a new [[Susan Wood (disambiguation)]] page, redirecting the old undifferentiated article to the dab page; then created articles for the first person with that name, to whom everyone else's links were being misdirected, and another for whom I had the time and energy. But I then had to go through all the pages with links to plain ol' Susan, some of which were clear and could be changed to one of the three known Susan Woods, and others which had to be sent to the dab page because I don't know who they are for. There's no way to safely automate a process like that. --Orange Mike 14:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't really like the way the question is phrased, but perhaps instead of phrasing the question this way, you should ask at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) if what you're suggesting is feasible. They'll know why it can or can't be done, and if it can, why it isn't. Leebo ^T/C 14:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

question about wiki editing programs

does anyone know about any? Ive been looking for some with quick links for templates and such.

68.7.210.156 (talk) 14:33, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

If you mean editing Wikipedia then see Wikipedia:Tools. There are many other wikis. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:45, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Out of alphabetical order on catagory page

Could you please tell me how to fix a person who's listed under the letter of their first name and not their last? Amb13 (talk) 14:51, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Write {{DEFAULTSORT:Last, First}} (replace Last by the last name and First by the first name) somewhere on the page before any of the categories, for instance just before the first category on the page. That changes the sorting rules for the page to sort by the last name. --ais523 14:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

how do I start an entirely new page?

how do I start an entirely new page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodd Stewart (talk • contribs) 15:06, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --ais523 15:20, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Interactive Presentation

rm content irrelevant to Help desk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bclglobal (talk • contribs) 15:06, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a question? Or is this just spam. Leebo ^T/C 15:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

search mechanism

how can previous searchs be cleared? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.72.2.71 (talk) 15:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

The previous searches are saved in your browser, not on the Wikimedia servers. The settings should be in your browser. For Firefox, go to Tool -> Clear Private Data and select only saved forms and search history, then click Clear Private Data Now. For Internet Explorer, download Firefox, then follow the instruction for Firefox. :-) If you like Internet Explorer for some strange reason, though, it's under Internet Options in the Tools menu. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 15:26, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Are you talking about the google toolbar with Wikipedia, or are you talking about the Internet History? This question should be asked on the Reference Desk

• If it's the toolbar, it easily says Clear History above the previous serched items.
• If it's IE7, just go to Tools > Internet Options > General > Delete > Delete History. Tools is in the Menu Bar above. If the Menu Bar is not visible, press Alt+T on your keyboard Lex^{94 Talk Contributions Guest Book} 15:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Question

what kind of articles can you made on wikipedia, are there any restrictions? Karren Pringle (talk) 15:31, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

There are some restrictions, some of the more common policies and guidelines are Wikipedia:Spam, Wikipedia:External links, all articles must be about a notable subject, and not be written in an inappropriate manner. Hope this helps! —Qst 15:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Peyton Manning Page

'I have a found a blatant error on a page. I cannot find an edit this page button on this p[articular page. How do I correct this erro−Tbowers1970 (talk) 17:14, 19 November 2007 (UTC)r?'

It is possible that yours is a new account, and the page is semi-protected against edits by new or anonymous editors, due to a past history of vandalism. --Orange Mike 17:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Peyton Manning is semi-protected. You can edit it when your account becomes 4 days old. Until then you can suggest changes at Talk:Peyton Manning. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Company Article

Hello,

My company was interested in posting information on Wikipedia. I posted the information along with our logo on Wikipedia last week, but I don't see it on your site when I search for it by name. I'm not 100 percent sure I uploaded it properly, so it's very likely user error. How can I tell if I posted it correctly and when will it be available for other to see? My company is called Ball Horticultural Company.

I appreciate your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenz33 (talk • contribs) 17:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

When making changes on Wikipedia, your changes are always instantly visible. It may have been reverted or deleted. Did you create a new article from scratch or edit an already-standing article? Lradrama 17:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Our rules very strongly discourage the creation or in most cases the editing of an article by someone with a strong conflict of interest, which your note implies you would have. It is also possible that the article was deleted, since in the judgment of the editors here it did not meet our standards of notability. Many firms simply are not of significance enough to merit articles in Wikipedia. --Orange Mike 18:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

On further research, it looks like you posted an entire article under the image itself, on the image's page. --Orange Mike 18:05, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

The image of your logo was apperently deleted because it'ss copyrighted (By you guys). You could release your logo under GFDL and upload it agian if you wanted though there might be problems there, as some other company may be able to use your logo without you being able to stop them (By releasing it under GFDL you are essentially saying people can do anything with it). A more suitable picture might be one of you premises that isn't affected by anything like that. Hope that helps--Phoenix-wiki ^{(talk · contribs)} 21:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

User contributions

Can I tell if User:Afonso Silva and User:Hamedog are still active contributors to the project. I was trying to see their last contributions, but am not sure how to assess their activeness.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 18:46, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

You said you checked their last contributions, but I'm not clear what else you need beyond Special:Contributions/Afonso Silva and Special:Contributions/Hamedog. --barneca (talk) 18:59, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Neither has deleted contribs that are much more recent. Just a few days later in the case of Afonso. Leebo ^T/C 19:01, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see a complication. Afonso Silva was renamed to User:Mário: [10] (Special:Contributions/Mário). --barneca (talk) 19:04, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

To the Editor for Denver, CO... info please....

Hi,

I would like to help edit info you have about Denver, Colorado, mainly here for now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver,_Colorado#Media

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Denver%2C_Colorado .

So could you please ask the Denver main editor to ccontact me please, so that we may work under his or her guidance. Newbies here :)

Thanks!

Diana Barnum and Bruce Hunter —Preceding unsigned comment added by Denverco (talk • contribs) 19:29, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

There is no such thing as a "main editor" for an article or place; everyone is welcome to edit here. That said: we do strongly discourage what are called "role accounts": accounts used by two or more persons. Each editor normally should get his or her own account and make their own edits. This enables us to judge more fairly the contributions of each participating editor. Probably each of you should register for your own account, using a name which perhaps implies a broader range of your interests or something unique to each of your own characters, and abandon the Denverco account. --Orange Mike 19:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

HOw Do I ADD A PAGE

HOw Do I add a page on Wikipedia about a subject? i am kind of new to this Stjohnthebaptist09 (talk) 20:24, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Read Wikipedia:Your first article. Sbowers3 (talk) 20:37, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Changing a redirect on a failed attempt to start a page

A while ago I began a "History of Palestinian Nationality" page but it was deleted due to it's lack of substance. That's fine. I've now got enough substance for it to be a good and fully referenced article, but everytime I go to restart it I get redirected to the "Palestinian People" page which is not at all the same as my desired page. How do I begin a new page under this title and discard the redirect? Thanks Hcrdavidson (talk) 20:38, 19 November 2007 (UTC)Hcrdavidson

When you are redirected, click the tiny link under the title of the page you've been redirected to, with the name of the title you originally sought. That will take you to the redir page. You can then "edit this page" in the normal manner. --Orange Mike 20:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

• Please keep in mind proper spelling. In the titles you mentioned neither Nationality, nor People should be capitalized. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:42, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

DRAG-U-LA

Please be advised that your information pertaining to the DRAG-U-LA and MUNSTER KOACH is incorrect. TOM DANIELS was on the Barris Kustom design team and he was a work-for-hire by George Barris. TOM DANIELS was on the design team and not a builder. George Barris built the DRAG-U-LA and MUNSTER KOACH with a team of builder and designers hired by Barris Kustom. Please correct your information as soon as possible.

Sincerely,

Kathy Vincelli On behalf of Barris Kustom Ind. and George Barris —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.16.33.191 (talk) 21:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

In order the article to be changed, please provide a link to it (via the [[wikilink]]) feature and, please provide a reliable source to verify this information. Thank you. —Qst 21:05, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

It's apparently about DRAG-U-LA. Munster Koach doesn't mention the builders. Google searches [11][12] support that George Barris was builder and Tom Daniels designer but I haven't examined reliability. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:52, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Public Relations and Wikipedia

Is it permissable for a Public Relations firm to submit articles as long as they are appropriately sourced and NPOV? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carylcomm (talk • contribs) 21:43, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

It's discouraged as it's a conflict of interest but not forbidden. So long as the article is totally neutral it's allowed though--Phoenix-wiki ^{(talk · contribs)} 22:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

1) Firms cannot submit anything here. We do not permit "role accounts" (accounts belonging to more than one person); an account must belong to a specific human being. Your present account username, for example, is not appropriate because it implies that it belongs to Caryl Communications. If it is being used by Caryl Bixon-Gordon, then she needs to change to a name that belongs to her, not to the firm; likewise if it is being used by Bob Gordon, Evelyn Weiss Francisco, Sandy Crisafulli or anybody else. In no case may more than one editor use the same account. 2) We are very concerned about possible conflict of interest in Wikipedia submissions by public relations and publicity professionals of any stripe: individual, organizational or private. Editors proposing to write about themselves, their own organizations, or matters they have very close ties to (such as PR clients), are strongly advised not' to edit or create such articles at all (except for certain non-controversial edits) but to instead use the talk page to request help from neutral editors. (Although, as Phoenix-wiki notes, it's not technically forbidden. 3) If your client is not notable enough to inspire neutral parties to write about them, they may well not meet our criteria for business articles. Persistent creation of articles about blatantly non-notable firms, especially by editors with a conflict of interest, can lead to "salting the ground" so that an article about a company becomes impossible to ever create. --Orange Mike 22:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

hmm, that seems a bit snappy for a someone on RFA...--Phoenix-wiki ^{(talk · contribs)} 22:26, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure how something can be interpreted as snappy without hearing a tone of voice or inflection. It may be read in a curt or blunt manner, but that's up to the individual reading it. I generally agree with everything Orange Mike said. Leebo ^T/C 22:29, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Empty categories

{{Db-catempty}} says it's for categories that have been empty for 4 days. I give up: how, exactly, can I tell if it's been empty for 4 days? I'm not the only one who's stumped. I've seen (somewhere, can't find it now) the suggestion that you can use Special:Recentchangeslinked/Category:ExampleCat, but I've tried that, and once a page is removed from the category, it disappears off the Recentchangeslinked page, so that doesn't work. Thanks for any help you can provide. --barneca (talk) 22:12, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

(taps mic) is this thing on? --barneca (talk) 01:24, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Maybe we're all stumped. Doesn't the history of the cat page help? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 01:29, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

The history of the cat page doesn't show additions/removals from the category, because that is done thru editing the individual pages. I suspect this is actually meant to prevent someone from intentionally depopulating a category and then nominating it for speedy deletion; the admin reviewing it wouldn't have any way of knowing it had been recently populated, for the very reasons outlined above. So it's more like "Don't nominate categories for speedy deletion if you know they were not empty within the last 4 days, but if you stumble upon an empty cat that looks like it has probably been empty for a long time, go for it." Perhaps I shall be bold and change the wording (to something slightly more official sounding than this), if no one has any better ideas. --barneca (talk) 01:59, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm being wikilawyered, how worried should I be?

Members of Sexual Compulsives Anonymous who are upset that I removed original research from their article, and for including research results from a peer-reviewed study that they have interpreted as pejorative. They have made threating comments to me on one of their user's talk pages -- e.g. threatening slander and libel charges and warning me not to edit their article anymore.

What should I do? -- Craigtalbert (talk) 22:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like you're trying to say you're being harrassed, if people are making threatening comments to you. Wikilawyering has to do with interpreting Wikipedia's policies in such a way that the letter of the law is upheld, but perhaps not the spirit. Wikilawyering is annoying and often disruptive, but it's hardly something to be afraid of. Can you clarify and provide specific examples? Leebo ^T/C 22:23, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Take the legal threats to WP:AN/I. I'm going to AfD this bloated pile of OR in just a second. -Wooty [Woot?] [Spam! Spam! Wonderful spam!] 22:24, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Leebo - it's been in discussion on Artistboynyc's talk page, but specifically I was informed that SCA's membership had been altered to my "obnoxious deletions" [13], I asked what was meant by that and was informed by (presumably) another SCA member that they took my "libelous" edits "very serious" [14]. I tired to explain that the results of the study weren't libelous, and I thought they reflected positively on the organization. But then in discussion the libel word came up again [15] and again [16]. It's enough to make me worried since I edit using my real name. -- Craigtalbert (talk) 23:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

If you are worried, maybe a name change - if you don't want to deal with them, send any future enquiries to me - I'll be happy to tell them to take a running jump deal with their issues. --Fredrick day (talk) 23:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes indeed - that article is terrible - while the organisation might be notable - the current version needs to be taken out the back... --Fredrick day (talk) 22:31, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I've lost a page

I recently read an amazing page called "WORDS TO AVOID". Despite extensive searching I cannot find it again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.9.77.19 (talk) 22:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Words to avoid perhaps? Woodym555 (talk) 22:51, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

(e.c.) Perhaps Wikipedia:Words to avoid is what you're looking for? Note that the page is in the Wikipedia namespace (Wikipedia: prefix) rather than the Article or Main namespace (no prefix). Also, if you want to quickly return to the page, you can type "WP:WTA", "WP:WORDS", or "WP:AVOID" in the left hand search bar. Happy wiking! —Preceding unsigned comment added by NASCAR Fan24 (talk • contribs) 22:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Lost Credentials / Account information

I asked a question (quite a while ago) and was looking for my account information. Is there anyway I can retrieve the username and password information to continue using the account?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk_archive/Language/December_2005#Phrase_Origin_.2F_Meaning_-_.22The_Full_SP.22

Thanks in advance,

Richard W (Cardiff) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.11.163.252 (talk) 22:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Only if you still have access to the email address used to create the account, without that it's a no-go and you'll have to make another account. -Wooty [Woot?] [Spam! Spam! Wonderful spam!] 22:56, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I still have the email address. But not sure which one I used. Could the information be mailed to me, please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.11.163.252 (talk) 23:13, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

You can enter your username on the login screen and click 'E-mail new password', which will send a temporary password to your e-mail address that will allow you to retrieve your account. However, we have no way of knowing which email account the message will be sent to, so I'd just suggest checking all of your accounts. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 23:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

November 20

trying to catch an online date scammer in russia before she strkies again

I am trying to use an IP address to get a physical address where this criminal is working her scams. I have already placed her on for blacklist for daste scammers. I have sent information to our government. now I need to send it to the Russian embassey. I want to see if I can get the physical address of 68.142.206.235. it should be in Russia. this number is in all her IP address. I work in port aransas Texas and live in corpus christi Texas. I have emailed her from both work and home. have not heard from her in a week. trying to find her so I can report her and her group to the Russian embassey. is there anything in you encyclopedia that will show me how to find it. <personal data removed> looking for your response. thank you brian friou —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.1.223 (talk) 01:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia really cannot help you with this, because what you are doing is making a legal threat against another individual (albeit, someone who isn't a Wikipedian). We cannot assist you with this, and I have removed this person's personal information. Oversight might be a good idea here. Leebo ^T/C 01:22, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I have reported this issue to Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents in order to resolve this issue. VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 01:53, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

How to contact editor

Hello,

I have written the Wikipedia article "Lonnie Mack", mostly without "signing in" until I figured out how to do that. Your editor, "Webhamster" has been very helpful. I would very much like to thank him, and to reply to his messages, but I haven't the foggiest notion how to do that. I can't even figure out how to communicate with him on talk pages, he has no email address, and there is no button to click on to reply to him.

Unlike many of your users, I am a computer moron to begin with, so I would appreciate it if you would pass this message on to him and provide him with my email address. It is <email removed for your security>. Plese also give detailed instructions as to how to communicate with him. Every time I try, your website tells me I am not logged in, which is simply not true, so perhaps he could provide an email address.

Many Thanks.

Steven L. Paine Moorpark, CA <email removed for your security> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slp512 (talk • contribs) 01:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

You can leave User:Webhamster a message by clicking here. (I deleted User talk:Webhamster so hopefully more people won't leave messages there by accident) That's Webhamster's talk page. It shouldn't matter if you are logged in or not, because you don't have to log in to edit. I've removed your email address above for your security, because this is a very highly viewed web page. Leebo ^T/C 02:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I think he meant User:WebHamster, not User:Webhamster. --Silver Edge (talk) 02:21, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Anyhow, User:Webhamster does not exist. Leave a message for User:WebHamster by clicking here. - Rjd0060 (talk) 02:50, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Guess someone else got confused by that in the past too. Leebo ^T/C 03:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Mobile version

Is there a version of Wikipedia optimized for mobile devices? Specifically I am using Pocket Internet Explorer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adollar28cents (talk • contribs) 02:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:WAP access. Hope this helps! GlassCobra 03:22, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

How to add my company information at Wikipedia?

Hi this is Andre on behalf of Allion Test Labs, Inc. I tried to post my company's information on the Wikipedia but was deleted by the auditor for the commercial and advertising issue. I was woundering why companies such as SONY, TOYOTA or INTEL can have detail company information posted on the Wikipedia? and what's kind of policy i should follow if i want to deliver the same information as those companies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AndreChou (talk • contribs) 03:17, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

In order to be included, an article's subject must demonstrate sufficient notability. For more information, see Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? GlassCobra 03:19, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

If you are personally affiliated with this company, you may have a conflict of interest which is affecting the neutrality of the article. In some cases, such as yours it would seem, this bias can be seen as spam. If this is the case, you may want to request the article rather than create it yourself. I hope this helps some. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:35, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

The information in articles on such companies as you name is not provided by the companies, but by editors who must derive their information from reliable, unbiased, third-party sources. If your firm, in your opinion, is sufficiently notable, you may (as another editor suggested) request that such an editor create an article about your firm. Many companies, of course, are not yet notable enough for their own article. --Orange Mike 03:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Clean up tag is a puzzle - how to contact tagger

Scotia Centre Mall (Saskatoon) has a clean up tag, and on the talk page another user has requested also what needs to be cleaned up. Is there any way to contact the original person who placed the tag to ask why it is there, and what exactly should be improved/changed? Can tags be removed if they cannot be figured out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SriMesh (talk • contribs) 04:16, 20 November 2007 (UTC) Thanks sine bot you are faster than me

A quick scroll through the history of the article shows that the tag was added by Billy. I suggest you ask him at his talk page. --Orange Mike 04:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

If Wikipedia is the "greatest encyclopedia in the world," than why dont teachers recommend it?

If Wikipedia is the "greatest encyclopedia in the world," than why dont teachers recommend it? 24.5.60.230 (talk) 05:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)Georje Dush

Because its not reliable and has partial "made up" information. I would give Wikipedia a 4.5 on reliability. It lies too much. SO DONT USE IT!!!

I think the page Wikipedia:Why Wikipedia is not so great might answer your question. Warning: Side effects of reading this essay may lead to severe annoyance, depression, or a lack of confidence. It is recommended by professional Wikipediholics that you follow that essay up with Wikipedia:Why Wikipedia is so great. ;-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 05:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Anyone can edit Wikipedia, and unfortunately, some people choose to abuse this privilege by vandalizing our articles. As such, the content on Wikipedia cannot be guaranteed to be valid at any given time. For more information, please see Wikipedia:General disclaimer. GlassCobra 05:50, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

It pays to know what type of articles tend to be truthful and which are the subject of constant fights. Also, as long as you take the time to check an article against its sources and make sure the article hasn't be subject to any recent dodgy edits, there's really no reason not to trust it. You can trust wikipedia, just not blindly, but the same is the case with any other reference work. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:45, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Has Wikipedia itself claimed to be the "greatest encyclopedia in the world" without referring to size? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Upload warning: ".ogg" is not a recommended image file format.

I am an author of the Black Holes article on Scholarpedia (Wiki's peer-reviewed sister), and am trying to upload a video clip in .ogg format. When I try to upload it, from the file upload page or by clicking on the red link, it fails with the message:

 Upload warning: ".ogg" is not a recommended image file format.

this despite the fact that the upload page itself lists [[Media:file.ogg]] as one of the ways of linking to multimedia content. How do I go about uploading an .ogg video clip?

70.244.16.63 (talk) 06:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

• Perhaps you haven't properly encoded the file. Did you convert it from another format? If so you might want to try using http://www.mediaconverter.org to put it in .ogg with a second attempt. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I really should know this...

But where do we report sites that use WP text without proper attribution per the GFDL? I normally ignore situations like this, but the site in question is a Wikia site. Caknuck (talk) 06:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks Ta-da! Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 06:39, 20 November 2007 (UTC) (might help if I get the link right... sorry.)

can I believe what i read?

Can I? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.201.141.171 (talk) 06:34, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

You may want to see our Wikipedia:Risk disclaimer. We make no assertion that what you see is correct, however we do require that controversial and most other information be backed up with references for you to double-check. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 06:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

See also Reliability of Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:37, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

how to write the pass word

how to write the pass word —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.19.176.18 (talk) 07:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Can you be more specific about the problem? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:37, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

about use of wikipedia

How Can i Use Wikipedia?

Can i make discussion about any subject?

If, yes How?

-Praful —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prafulgohil (talk • contribs) 09:43, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

1) Please try the Wikipedia:Tutorial. This should help you understand how to use Wikipedia. 2) You can discuss improvements/concerns about particular articles on their talk pages. They should not be used as platforms for personal views, as message forums, blog spaces, personal webpages and so on. Another words, yes, you can discuss many things but "any subject" is very broad; discussion should, however attenuated, be related in some way to improving the encyclopedia. 3) The links already posted should take you some way towards the "how", but see also Wikipedia:About, Wikipedia:Introduction and Wikipedia:How to edit a page. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:31, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

How to post !

Hi Wikipedia !

How do I create a page.

For example. If I search for donald trump. All the information about him will appear.

I'm trying to create a page for Patrick Ribbsaeter. I have written down iformation about Patrick Ribbsaeter, but when I search theres no page appearing with that name.

What should I do and how long will it take before it apperas as a page ???

Thanks in Advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrickribbsaeter (talk • contribs) 14:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

• Hi and welcome. You'll find more information at this page for creating an article. However going by your user name you may want to review our policies on avoiding a conflict of interest and particularly guidelines about living people. Pedro :  Chat  14:46, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
  • And since you say you are Patrick Ribbsaeter [17], see also Wikipedia:Autobiography. User:Patrickribbsaeter is your user page and not a part of the encyclopedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Use of #if: in templates

I am trying to write a template with a line which is conditional upon two parameters, but I can't seem to get it to work. (I've followed the following page for guidance: Parser Functions #if:)

The following is logically what I want. If parm1 and parm2 exist then the message gets printed:

{{ #if: {{{parm1|}}}{{{parm2|}}} | Yes there is {{{parm1}}} and {{{parm2}}}}}

As I understand it, since there is no real conditional testing, the condition will only contain something if both parm1 and parm2 contain something.

I cannot get it to work, though I have the following working, where if parm1 has content then the message is printed:

{{ #if: {{{parm1|}}} | Yes there is {{{parm1}}} and {{{parm2}}}]]}}

(Maybe related, but also why do I need to specify parameters with the vertical bar {{{parm1|}}} rather than without it {{{parm1}}} which to me seems more logical).

Thanks for any help!

Rugops (talk) 15:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

You need to use {{#ifeq:{{{parm1|}}}{{{parm2|}}} | Yes there is {{{parm1}}} and {{{parm2}}}}}

The | is included to indicate that it is a parameter in the wiki text. Are you editing this in a sandbox somewhere? Woodym555 (talk) 15:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

What you say seems to work. But I'm more confused than ever as to why! the #ifeq: function seems to me for comparing two strings, but the two strings I am using can be as different as "chalk" and "cheese". So it seems that I have:

#ifeq: chalk cheese THEN Yes there is chalk and cheese (though chalk <> cheese, so why should this be 'true'?)

#ifeq: chalk THEN <blank>

#ifeq: cheese THEN <blank>

#ifeq: THEN <blank>

but chalk is not equal to cheese?

And I don't understand your comment that, in this context, | is "included to indicated that it is a parameter". The three curly braces at each side of the parameter are surely doing that?

Thanks.

Rugops (talk) 16:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

The three curly braces show that something should be there, if you leave the parameter blank then, the {{{cheese}}} would show up in it's place. The | inside of the curly braces means that the Mediawiki software will see it is a parameter.

The parameters can be whatever you want them to be. It doesn't judge the merit of the contents, it is just characters. If you wanted you could set up the template to say whatever you want. It sees if there are two set parameters, if there are it adds in the text. Woodym555 (talk) 16:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure Woodym555's suggestion does what you want (and if it does, I suspect it relies on at least a quirk if not a bug in the code - #ifeq should have at least 3 arguments and you're only giving it two). It sounds to me like you want output only if both parm1 and parm2 are defined (more precisely, not null), rather than if either one is defined. One way to do this would be:

{{ #if: {{{parm1|}}} | {{ #if: {{{parm2|}}} | Yes there is {{{parm1}}} and {{{parm2}}}}}}}

What | does is provide the result if the parameter is not defined. Without it, in the case where the parameter is undefined you get a result consisting of the characters {{{parm}}} (which is probably not what you want). -- Rick Block (talk) 16:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Problem Printing a Page

If you go to this link [18] There seems to be a problem if you want to print it. In IE6, it combines several pictures in the printout and if you use FireFox, it just freezes up. I do not know enough to know what to change and didn't want to mess with it. Thanks, 131.247.193.211 (talk) 15:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)Steve - Tampa, FL

Try it now? I can't print here but fixed bunched images up - although methinks there are far too many images on there... x42bn6 Talk Mess 15:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank a lot. The text under the A is still mixed up, but all pics show now. Thank you 131.247.193.211 (talk) 16:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)Steve

Actually, there still is one picture hidden behind the A. 17:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)Steve

SSP

Hello fellow Wikipedians. I've been here a while, however I have never come across this situation before, and therefore don't know how to act....My question is: Am I allowed to disclose an email sent to me regarding the indef blocking of a user at SSP to the admin who blocked them? Regards, Rudget.talk 15:51, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not 100% certain on this, but I would forward it to the admin handling the case; I would make a note of it, but not post it, as part of the evidence. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Rudget.talk 16:34, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Infobox help

Hi, can someone help me on this infobox? I need to make the green strip reading "Basic statistics" and "Administration" optional, and I tried to make some fields optional too, but I got a

{{#if:{{{code}}}| (and so on...).

(You'll get what I mean if you see the template). And is there a way to make

{{{order}}}, {{{area1}}}, {{{area2}}}, {{{population}}}, {{{mandate}}}, {{{year}}}, {{{density1}}}, and {{{density2}}}

optional, too? Thanks! --escondites 17:10, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Is there some particular reason you can't use Template:Infobox Settlement? -- Rick Block (talk) 17:22, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I'll use it next time when I write an article about a settlement... But that template is not for settlements! --escondites 06:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Dictionary

If other editors refuse to acknowledge many of the worlds most popular dictionarys definitions of a phrase isn't this then a violation of both WP:NPOV and WP:FAITH? How do I get this resolved? Alatari (talk) 18:16, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Could you give a little more information on the specific case? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 18:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

You could try looking at Wikitionary. That's a dictionary/thesaurus, whereas Wikipedia tries to include more information than just a definition. You may also want to look at our Criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 1 under Articles. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like Alatari is referring to his desire to add a particular piece of information to an existing article based on dictionaries as refererences, but other editors are opposing this for some reason. We need more information to actually give an answer. I don't think he's making an article that just consists of a dictionary definition. Leebo ^T/C 18:31, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Upon reviewing Alatari's contributions, there seems to be a dispute about the definition of Holocaust taking place at Talk:Holocaust. This help desk is not a dispute resolution forum; please take this to an appropriate dispute resolution forum. Leebo ^T/C 18:34, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

If you seek dispute resolution, you can find more here. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:10, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

The dispute resolution page is what I need. Much appreciated. Alatari (talk) 19:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Me on Wikipedia

I would like to make an entry about me, but it states in the guidelines that this is not permitted. It also says that a friend should not enter an article about another friend. Is this true? If so, then how can I get an article about me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaysalyers (talk • contribs) 18:19, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, this is true. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must demonstrate the notability of the subject. Articles also cannot contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content. If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. GlassCobra 18:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

You can include information about yourself on your user page, which is located here. If you're sufficiently notable, someone will probably write an actual article about you soon, but we do thank you for not doing it yourself. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

You might see also Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Autobiography. PeaceNT (talk) 16:25, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Firefox Search Engine Plugin redux

Yesterday, at Wikipedia:Help desk#Firefox Search Engine Plugin I requested help that was perceived incorrectly. I am the leading editor at Donald Trump and want to do some work on his article this week. I would like help creating a Firefox search engine plugin for the search engine at http://online.wsj.com/public/us and for the quote search at http://finance.yahoo.com/ . The latter is less important. These would both help me contribute to the project more expediently. In the past, I have been able to get assistance creaing such a plugin for research at http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/ . The Wall Street Journal search engine would help me do some good work for the project.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 18:48, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

The issue is that we offer help with Wikipedia, not with Firefox. We're not really prepared to help you write code for something completely off-Wikipedia. On a side note, what does it mean to be a "leading editor"? Leebo ^T/C 18:58, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

It is the term I use to say that I made the most edits on a particular page. It has no significance other than to say on this issue that I do a lot of work on this particular page and hope to do more.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 22:52, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

The folks who answer questions here at Wikipedia have divided themselves up into groups. The forum we are using here (the "help desk") is for questin about using Wikipedia itself. The guys who answer general computer questions hang out over atWikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. This would include Firefox search addons. As it happens, I just created a specialized one for WorldCat, though. Since it is easier to install such an addon from a web site, there are at least two web sites that let you create your addon using a web form, and then install your plugin from that site. (Alternatively, you can find multiple worked examples of the XML, edit the XML yourself, and install it in the appropriate subdirectory on your computer: see [19].) There are several wsj plugins here:[20].) -Arch dude (talk) 11:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:RD/C|

Lookng at the history of deleted pages

Is it possible to look at the history of pages that have been deleted? If so how? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattyatty (talk • contribs) 19:07, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Only administrators can view the history of a deleted page, or deleted edits of an existing page. Some admins will make copies of deleted pages available upon request (typically via e-mail). You can find a list here. It should be noted that you probably should have some reason for looking at a deleted page, such as a desire to improve it or move it to another wiki where it would be more appropriate. Simple curiosity isn't a valid reason to request deleted pages, and pages deleted as copyright violations or personal attacks probably won't be provided. Leebo ^T/C 19:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

want to use some contents of wiki

59.160.106.1 (talk) 21:10, 20 November 2007 (UTC)I want to use some of the definitions given in wikipedia in a book i am writing. Please provide me the required permission.

The relevant section for you is WP:C. It explains it all quite elaborately. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 21:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. :) PeaceNT (talk) 16:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

editing

I cannot add a new article —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nina bindu deely (talk • contribs) 21:16, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

• See Help:Starting a page, Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:Article wizard. If you need any more help, please be more specific. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Using wikipedia in research

Hi i'm 12 and i was wondering if you can copy and paste wikipedia into a research paper as long as you include the wikipedia page in your bibliography209.247.22.55 (talk) 21:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)gbaspman

Yes, you can. It's almost always a bad idea though. If you are doing a research paper, and you take text from Wikipedia, make sure you say exactly what part of Wikipedia you used. It is generaly a better idea to use the sources which Wikipedia uses though. Just follow the links to the sources, and use that information. After all, nothing in Wikipedia is anything new. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 22:09, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Copying large chunks of anything into a research paper is always a bad idea, unless you absolutely have no other way to represent that information. As Martijn Hoekstra said, you're better off getting your information from the sources in the articles. Leebo ^T/C 22:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, there are caveats. Reproducing a substantial portion of a Wikipedia article in another document would probably require that you license the resulting document under the GFDL; this may or may not be acceptable to you depending on your intended use for the final paper.

If you do decide to include material copied verbatim from Wikipedia – or from any other source – it is important to clearly set it off from the surrounding text using quotation marks (for short passages) or indents (for longer sections). There should be no ambiguity in the reader's mind about which text in the document was written by you, and which text came from another source. (Failure to make this distinction clear can be considered plagiarism.) The specific source of copied text should be clearly indicated using footnotes or endnotes; just listing the source in a bibliography likely would not meet the standards of citation expected in academic writing. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 22:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

You might also want to check with your teacher if this will even be acceptable - many educators do not accept Wikipedia as reliable due to its tendency to be vandalized and our own admission that not everything here should be regarded as 100% accurate at all times. If this does turn out to be the case, you can use the references for your information, but make sure you check that reference first. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:49, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi! Once you are in university, you do not in general cite an encyclopedia, but you can certainly use the encyclopedia to get an overview and to find other sources. The rules for research when you are 12 are usaually a bit different, but talk to your teacher. You are probably allowed to cite encyclopedias. Yes, you can quote from a work that you cite, but you should instead re-write in your own words. To cite the article, click on the "cite this article" link in the toolbox in the left-hand sidebar. This lets you choose from the various ways to format your citation. About accuracy: Wikipedia is in general more accurate and more up-to-date than other encyclopedias, but any given article on any given day may have just been vandalized or edited by someone who has incorrect information. Therefore, you should check the article talk page and the article history. You can also fix the article if you find important stuff during your research. -Arch dude (talk) 12:17, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

After you create an account!

When you ask a question befoe you create an account, your IP address would publicly show on the website but if you create an account and sign on, it would not show your IP address. Is it possible you can change the history to your IP address so that it would not be seen again? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bamgermany11 (talk • contribs) 22:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

If you made contributions while not logged in, those contributions will likely always be associated with that IP address. It's not possible to transfer them to an account. They may, at some point, be deleted if the page they were made to is eligible for deletion. You edits while logged in will never be directly associated with an IP address. Leebo ^T/C 22:21, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

What can we do to delete our contributions to the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bamgermany11 (talk • contribs) 22:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

You can't just delete your edits, unless they contain personal information. If they do contain personal informaton, like your name, location, etc. and you'd like them deleted, you can request that it be done at Wikipedia:Oversight. If you have no other reason to request they be deleted other than the IP address being visible, you can't have them removed through oversight. If the page is eligible for deletion through the deletion process, then your edits would be deleted with the rest of the page. Which page is it? I can tell you if it's eligible for deletion. Leebo ^T/C 22:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Stub Question

I added two stub templates to Asymptomatic carrier. I'm wondering if it was okay that I added both genetic disorder and infectious disease stubs to the article since thats the categories that the article falls under? Am I suppose to just add one stub per article or as many stubs as categories the article is in? Thanks!

-(Noneforall (talk) 22:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC))

Multiple labels is fine, so long as it doesn't get out of hand. (WP:STUB suggests not adding more than four or so). Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 22:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Space after template

For some reason, every time the {{playmate}} template is used, see Simone Eden for example, there is an extra space between it and the next line. What's causing this? Dismas|^(talk) 22:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I think I got it, did I? Leebo ^T/C 22:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you got it with [21]. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:54, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Dismas|^(talk) 02:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

deletion

how do i delete my user account? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adammoskal (talk • contribs) 22:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but you cannot delete it. You can replace your userpage with {{retired}} though. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 22:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

You also have the right to vanish Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 22:43, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Google sidebar

why have these revisions suddenly started showing up on my google sidebar? I don't want it, it is taking up a lot of room on my web clips page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.211.174.146 (talk) 22:48, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Is this about Wikipedia? If not: Have you tried the computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:57, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

November 21

The article titled Ilavida

Resolved

The article titled Ilavida was speedily deleted by the admin "Secret Account". I contacted him/her on his/her talk page and also commented on the article's talk page. This administrator has chosen to ignore my comments.

If the admin is not familiar with Indian epics and therefore, does not recognize the notability of this article (a write up about the stepmother of Ravana and the mother of Kubera -- both characters are well known to Hindus), s/he should have asked for a clarification or at least responded to my queries about his / her speedy delete. Since this admin has ignored my comments on both his/her talk page and the article's talk page, I want to know who I can contact to present my case.

Of course, if Wikipedia does not see why an article about a personality in a Hindu epic is important at all for any reason, I would at least like to hear this so that I can go about writing about the characters in the Ramayana on some other site. I am sure someone out there (an admin) would be willing to talk to me and help me get my article republished and I would be more than grateful to hear from him/her since Mr./Ms. Secret Account does not deign to respond to my queries in this regard.

Thanks,

Kreedanthi (talk) 00:44, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

• I am not an admin, but I am very familiar with Ilavida, and it is notable. Don't understand why an admin would delete it [unless he's a racist.] Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 00:51, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that. From Google I saw Ilavida mentioned in Hindu epic figure glossaries. You could quote these and they will establish the notability of this significant figure. They don't call this a wiki for nothing. One can, sometimes, make wiki mistakes, but you can recreate the article in a wiki (fast) way as well. I don't think, however, this reflects bias. If you need any help with citations when you recreate this article I will help you. Take care. Dr.K. (talk) 00:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Alex, in light of your recent dispute with Secret, that wasn't productive.

I had no idea it was the same user. And I haven't been disputing with him, I have just been discussing the ArbCom Candidacy requirements. And sorry for the comment, I didn't even notice she said Secret, it was a mere coincidence; I shall strike it right away. Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 01:13, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Kreedanthi, I'll leave a note on Secret's talk page; it's possible they just missed your question. Let's give Secret another chance here before assuming the worst about them. --barneca (talk) 00:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Secret just replied to Alex's new comment on their talk page. It seems to me from reading Secret's comment that if you recreate the article, more clearly explaining (to non-Hindus) the subject's notability, you should be fine. --barneca (talk) 01:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

(ec)Administrators like all other editors are volunteers and work whatever hours they choose. It is very likely that User:Secret has not responded to your queries for the simple reason that he has been away from the computer. His last contribution today was almost an hour BEFORE you left a message on his talk page. Be patient and I'm sure that he will respond to your query and might very well restore your article.

Your article is still visible in a Google cache. It has no references. Without references it is nigh impossible for someone unfamiliar with Hindu epics to understand its notability. I notice that you didn't even mention "Hindu" or "epic" in your article. The best way to ensure that an article is not deleted is to include many verifiable references to reliable sources. Sbowers3 (talk) 01:08, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I was attempting to recreate the article with all of the relevant information and was in the middle of editing when another admin (JMLK17) speed deleted it. I got an edit conflict message and was told that it had been deleted because the article was not significant enough! I am thoroughly frustrated. It appears that I will keep posting it and it will keep being deleted because there are apparently multiple admins here! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kreedanthi (talk • contribs) 03:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

This appears to have been resolved here. --Bfigura ^(talk) 03:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

editing participation is not beginner friendly; geeks speak only to one another

hey, some of us were born quite awhile ago and did not grow up on computers, rather came to them in a later season when learning new things is more troublesome and slow, yet we do have valid contributions, despite what the youth-centered, computer-savvy generation may think.

i simply wanted to add an editorial oversight; the article on "history of homelessness" carelessly used the abbreviation :SRO's" as if EVERYONE knows what those are. again, a small group talking to itself? overly urban? I am wee-read and into my 6th decade of life, yet i didn't know what it meant. yes, i can link to it an on my slow computer eventually find out it's meaning, but common journalistic and professional writing practise is to define a term or jargon or acronym or abbreviation when introduced for the first time in an article/

in an effort to effect my first wiki edit, i then signed kup, created an account, went to the discussion page, read primers on how to edit, and,12FRICKING pages later, gave up in disgust. at no time did i find and easy-to-locate "edit" or "comment" tab. too complex, you lose a lot of valuable participation and are slamming out less computer-literate people. and i'm not a freak, i'm actually more c-savvy than some of my neighbors. so laughif you want; can you plow with a horse? skid logs with a mule, find remedies in the mountains? do lyou want participation from folk like us? thxMichael combs (talk) 02:33, 21 November 2007 (UTC) (this was near citation 52 in the article)

I guess you are referring to Homelessness in the United States. The article is not protected, so you should have "edit" links to the right of section headings (unless you disabled that at "Editing" in Special:Preferences), and an "edit this page" tab at the top of the page. I have changed [22] "SROs" to link to Single Room Occupancy. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:21, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Just noticed that the man at the beginning referred to himself as a kid, and then as an elder. And because of the use of words like "GEEK" and "FRICKIN" , and saying "CAN YOU FIND REMEDIES IN THE MOUNTAIN?", I am going to believe that he is indeed a kid. Pure speculation... Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 03:31, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

If you're having trouble, there are plenty of ways to ask for help, and people who are computer-literate will help you out. Next time you need help, simply edit your talk page (easy to find at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Mytalk or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_combs) and add the text {{helpme}} followed by your question. It's hard to balance easy editing with a powerful wiki platform, but there are always people who are willing to help you out if you have a problem and are polite and friendly like everyone should be. :)

In this case, what you could have done would have been to click the "+" tab at the top of Talk:Homelessness and left a comment saying that the section could be more clear. I've made an edit to carry out your suggestion.

You should probably see a tab at the top of the page saying "edit this page", and each section title should have an "[edit]" link to its right, to be able to edit. To comment, you edit talk pages, by clicking on the "discussion" tab at the top of the page and there either clicking the "edit this page" or "+" link, where the "+" link is for a new topic. If you need any further help, please contact me and I'll help you out as soon as I notice your comment. Nihiltres^{t.l} 03:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC) (cross-posted to user's talk page)

(edit conflict) After further searching it appears you were actually referring to Homelessness. That article is semi-protected due to vandalism, so accounts must be 4 days old to edit it and your new account would not have edit links. Nihiltres and I have edited it [23]. It already linked Single Room Occupancy before but the link text only said SRO. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:38, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Deleting a delete nomination message

How do I delete a nomination for deletion once the article has been deleted? Specifically for this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:1234christi I understand why it was deleted, and now I'd like this message deleted as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.166.89.188 (talk) 03:31, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm assuming that that's your account - it's generally preferred that messages on talk pages are archived rather than deleted, as they are a record of your interaction with other editors and the project as a whole. However, if you wish to remove messages from your own talk page while logged into that account, you may do so. Nothing in policy says otherwise. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Ilavida recreated and deleted AGAIN WHILE I WAS STILL EDITING IT AND ADDING REFERENCES!

I am completely losing my mind here.

As suggested by Dr. K, I recreated the article and was in the process of editing it when ANOTHER admin performed a speed delete. It appears to be that many people are anti-Ilavida!!!!

Dr. K offered to help me with references but if the article keeps getting speed deleted, I see that there IS NO WAY that I can possibly set it up. Is there a way to let ALL the admins know that we're working on it and to please stay off the speed delete button until I'm completely done and Dr. K has reviewed it??????????????

Kreedanthi (talk) 03:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC).

Kreedanthi, please don't see conspiracies everywhere. You are definitely getting treated shabbily, but I am very confident it is not intentional. It's the unfortunate way speedy delete works around here. A large majority of the people here do not know who Ilavida is. I can't see your latest attempt, but your first one was not clear about what it was about. Can I suggest creating the article in your user space, by clicking and editing here: User:Kreedanthi/Ilavida? Then, you and Dr. K can work on the article in peace, without being threatened with deletion. When the article is ready, you can move it into the main article space (I'd be happy to help with that part, if necessary). --barneca (talk) 03:40, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

p.s. If you don't have a copy of your latest article attempt saved somewhere before it was deleted, I'm pretty sure Jmlk would be happy to provide a copy for you in your user space, if you ask. --barneca (talk) 03:42, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

(E/C x2) The deleted content is here, which is a sandbox subpage I have placed on your user talk page. When you are ready to "go live", use the move button at the top of the screen to move it into the mainspace (or if your account isn't at least four days old, ask someone to do it for you here). Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:43, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest a conspiracy theory, although for a while there, I was really frustrated. The article is finally back up and I hope it no longer satisfies a speed-delete consideration! Thanks to everyone for helping. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kreedanthi (talk • contribs) 04:08, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

No, I know you weren't. Glad it worked out; I see you and Jmlk17 solved the problem 1 minute before I wrote that anyway. But (and don't kill the messenger), I'm sorry to say, there is still a problem; there are now two versions. Jmlk17 restored your version for you, and it looks like you're working on it here: Ilavida, but User:Fuhghettaboutit restored it to your user space: User talk:Kreedanthi/subpage/sandbox, and has been helping expand it there! I suggest you guys talk. Since he is the only one adding stuff to your sandbox, I think the easiest thing is for him (not you) to copy/paste his additions to the actual article, so everything is properly attributed. It's never easy, is it? --barneca (talk) 04:19, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd tell her to move the article in mainspace to the one in her subpage. By the rate this is going, I just think another admin will delete it. So, it is better if she works it out in her sandbox. Cheers, Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 04:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Excellent point, I agree with Alex, merge your stuff with Fuhghettaboutit's stuff in your sandbox, then you don't have to worry about another speedy delete battle. --barneca (talk) 04:40, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Glad this is working out. A few questions. Why was all the wikification I added removed (just curious, it's easy to do again) and please note the re-formatting of the reference. References are not created by superscripting [1], [2], and so on, but rather you place the reference in the body of the article surrounded by tags that look like this: <ref>text</ref> which then populates the reference section. Also, you created Surpanakha‎ when Soorpanaka‎ already exists. I have added merge tags to the two articles. Wikipedia should only have one article on a single subject. Improving the preexisting article is the right way to go.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello Fuhghettaboutit,

What wikification? Dr. K added the references and I'm so grateful to him for his help. BTW, I created the recent article Soorpanaka, not realizing that one titled Surpanaka already existed! How do I go about merging the two articles? Thanks

Kreedanthi (talk) 05:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Try improving Surpanakha, and turn Soorpanaka into a Redirect. Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 06:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I went ahead and merged them. I didn't do any of the streamlining I usually do for a topic that isn't so outside my experience.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

API to retrieve links and articles from wikipedia

I would to place the search results in wikipedia on my website. Do the system provide such API function? thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.214.62.57 (talk) 04:35, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Mangled reference formatting

I've been at WP for quite some time now, but I don't know how to fix this. The article Spanish language's references after about 18 display as a horrible mess, for me at least. Would someone mind fixing it? -Oreo Priest 06:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I think it's been fixed. Looks like there was an unclosed tag somewhere. Does it look okay for you now? GlassCobra 07:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Need ideas on recruiting

I need to recruit editors to create and develop lists for the set known as Lists of basic topics (part of Wikipedia's navigation system). There's a wish list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists of basic topics.

I've posted notices at WP:CBB, Wikipedia:Requested articles, and Wikipedia:Requests for expansion. I've posted the WikiProject at Wikipedia:List of shortcuts/Project shortcuts and Wikipedia:WikiProject.

What else can I do?

How else can I find editors to join this WikiProject and/or create these lists?

I look forward to your ideas.

The Transhumanist    06:24, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Dispute Help - Advice Required

Ref: Administrator Review of and Article

Just wondering, the same user is causing problems again. He has reverted most of the same articles (linked below) again, with the same reasons. What is the best course to take?

Cell Saga Freeza_Saga

There may be more, I do not have enough time to investigate fully. Kennedy ^(talk) 07:19, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

The help desk isn't the place for dispute resolution or administrative intervention. If it's an editing dispute try dispute resolution, if complex vandalism try the admin's incident noticeboard. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 07:31, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Oldest unchanged edit

How can I find my oldest unchanged edit? In other words, the article which I edited and no-one else has changed after me? —Moondyne 08:43, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

• Probably this one? AndyJones (talk) 09:05, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

• Look at "(top)" in your earliest User Contributions pages.--Patrick (talk) 09:19, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

• If redirects and non-mainspace edits are excluded then it's probably [24]. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

responding to emailed questions

I am a new user. I edited an entry and received an emailed comment. I can't figure out how to respond to the emailer, who seems to be an official Wikipedia editor.Cpolsgro (talk) 09:42, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

All editors are "official editors". I would suggest that you not respond via email, that you place a note on the editor's talk page, instead, both because this will allow you to discuss Wikipedia issues here, where they should be discussed, but also for your own privacy. The editor's username should be in the email message you received, and so you can simply use that and go to their talk page to reply. Cheers, Ariel♥Gold 09:53, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

If you refer to [25] then an edit to a Wikipedia page is not an email, but is often called a post. Special:Emailuser/Cpolsgro says you have not allowed people to email you. You can reply to Dybryd by clicking the '+' tab at top of User talk:Dybryd. Dybryd posted to you a month ago and may not discover a reply on your own talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Uploading a file and making it visable when people search on the company?

Hi,

I ahve been through the FAQ, and read through instructions and I can still not work out how to do this.

I have tried to upload a PDF - Imago Company Profile onto Wiki, I think this was successful except it kept asking about copy right, so I tried to fill this in otherwise it gets deleted but not sure if I did this correctly? I was trying to upload my companies profile on Wiki, so when people search on Imago or Imago group plc (our company name) we would come up, but I can't see that we do at all?

Please can you help me with this.

Regards

Dawn Irons —Preceding unsigned comment added by Imago 1991 (talk • contribs) 10:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

You have uploaded the PDF file Image:Imago Company Profile .pdf to a place intended for images. Wikipedia does not accept pdf files. An article about Imago Group PLC should be created at Imago Group in wikitext format. But please see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Business FAQ. Don't create a promotional article about your own company. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:26, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

i have lings of eletricity moving on my body

i need help this is not a joke or a crazy person please please help me i have to much eletricty or something in my body my body lets things in to my body such as fuzz hair dirt wood any thing iim around it does it when my body gets hot my body releases thing the stuff it pulls in also things fall off me which appear to be invisible lines when it hits it leaves a black mark moving water mess with me i can put my palms or bottom of my feet toward cold water when my back begins to hurt or my chest gets heavy there are white chalk looking things that get every where when i run the dish washer or vacuum these things bother me teribily and agervate this condition if this line dosent leave a black mark it will usually get back on me or will go into the freezer and leave ink like smears which can and do get back on me if it goes to the freeser it leaves stuff which looks likelittle pices of dirt or little strigs that look like dust i am will to let you work on me or what ever it takes to resolve this problem —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malisa wade (talk • contribs) 11:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

While I'm not completely able to understand your question, it appears to be of a medical nature. Wikipedia is not a place to come to for medical advice, I would suggest that you see your family physician. Ariel♥Gold 12:08, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Stub pages

How do I label a stub page? For example, on some pages it says down the bottom "This history (eg)-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it." Is there a shortcut way to label a page with that information? Bugalugs13 (talk) 12:29, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

To label an article as a generic stub, put the {{stub}} template on the bottom of the page. However, the stub might attract more attention if you use an appropriate category stub instead. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types for a list of different stub types. — Ksero (leave me a message, things I've done) 12:47, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

hiv

can hiv live when expost to high temperatures —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.155.206.129 (talk) 12:57, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

• HI. I think you might find more in the article on HIV or you could try at the Reference Desk for more help. Cheers. Pedro :  Chat  12:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
• No, though there is debate about it, most virologists don't consider viruses to be alive to begin with. - Mgm|^(talk) 18:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Daire Brehan / references

I have today created an article for Daire Brehan the Irish broadcaster (wih whom I have worked closely at the BBC over the years). But although I have inserted references/footnotes, they do not appear to be showing on the article page when saved. How is this done? Also the overall heading of the page shows 'Dairie brehan' with the 'b' in lower case when it should be upper case. How can this be amended please? Thanks Peter Griffiths - email: Email removed - this is a heavily trafficked website—Preceding unsigned comment added by Pkgriffiths (talk • contribs) 13:21, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that you need to add a template at the bottom of the article for the references to show up: see Help:Footnotes. I've added this for you. --Kateshortforbob 13:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I've also moved the article to Daire Brehan to capitalise the surname, as it appears to be capitalised in the text. --Kateshortforbob 13:51, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

CSS, collapsible tables, resources

I'm attempting to make a two-tier collapsible presentation, and put multiple collapsible templates into a collapsible table (of one column width).
A series of articles will have different related templates, which will go into the collapsible table.
(Or some other collapsible thing that does not require making one-use templates ( as it appears {{navbox}} presumes template use).
I don't have any examples to work with for the collapsible table.
I do see examples at Wikipedia:Collapsible_tables, but I don't know where to go to learn how to manipulate CSS to mimic the colors of a {{navbox}} header, border and colors.
Thanks -- Yellowdesk (talk) 15:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Similar to {{Navigation with collapsible groups}}?↔NMajdan•talk 19:28, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

ABSTINENCE is MISSPELLED in description of Alcoholics Anonymous

I just "joined" Wikipedia. When I looked for Alcoholics Anonymous on Google, there as a brief description about AA before you even clicked on and went into the actual Wikipedia article. I haven't reviewed that site in any depth, although I am a self-professed member of AA and have not had a drink for 20 years (we call that abstinence). BUT you should know that in the description of AA that appears when anyone Googles Alcoholics Anonymous, the word abstinence IS MISSPELLED abstinance!

Please make this correction. I don't know how to do it, but anybody who is literate will automatically assume that if they read Wikipedia's description of Alcoholics Anonymous that it's a bunch of drunks who have not only a problem with alcohol but also with spelling, and that's not the impression we want to give. Plus anybody who doesn't know what abstinence means cannot look it up under the WRONG SPELLING.

Thanks.

Memctigue (talk) 15:56, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Memctigue

I just "joined" Wikipedia. I would like to make a minor edit but don't know how, can you instruct me? Thanks. Memctigue (talk) 15:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Memctigue

At the top of the page, you will see a bolded edit this page. If you click that, you can change the page. You can also edit specific sections, with the edit text next to the specific section, making it easier to find the exact thing you want to edit. why don't you try it a little at the sandbox. You can try almost anything there. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Go to the Alcoholics Anonymous page and click the "edit this page" tab at the top. Find the part you want to edit, change it, give a description like "spelling" in the edit summary and click "save page". Just out of curiosity though, where is it spelled incorrectly in that article? I didn't see it spelled incorrectly. Leebo ^T/C 16:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

If you search for "Alcoholics Anonymous" on Google [26], the third result is for Wikipedia, and contains a summary with the misspelling: "Article about the AA includes its Twelve Step program, method of complete abstinance, and history". I don't know where that summary comes from? It's not from the article. -- DatRoot 16:18, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh, oh, oh, the Google results. Those are from a database of descriptions that Google gets, they're not related to anything on Wikipedia in any way. I'll try to find the source. Leebo ^T/C 16:26, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

For info. Because Google cache's versions of web pages (including wikipedia articles) and does not update their cache "on the fly" but only when they re-index the page - which could be a few days or several weeks. Thus an old spelling error now fixed has been caught in the google cache. Try googling "site under construction" and then go to any old site in the index - often they've now been built and you won't see the under construction text, but it's stuck in Googles cache until re-indexing. Pedro :  Chat  16:27, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I found it, it's http://www.dmoz.org/, the Open Directory Project where these kind of Google descriptions come from. It's not from the article, so it's not a cache issue. Leebo ^T/C 16:30, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Which just goes to prove you don't need to be a newbie to find out useful and new stuff at the Helpdesk. Nice one Leebo. Pedro :  Chat  16:35, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I want to make a fix but it's in a non-edit area

There is a typo in the main description of the article on Alcoholics anonymous. Do you want it fixed or even called to your attention or not (I am just new and already I'm frustrated). I cannot edit this text. Abstinence is misspelled abstinance. HOW CAN I FIX THAT?????????????

Memctigue (talk) 16:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Memctigue

Click on the "edit this page" tab on the top of the page. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 16:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

This is the same issue as the section above, and the problem was found to be off-Wikipedia. Leebo ^T/C 16:59, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry, I only noticed this after the fact. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 17:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I'll just reiterate for clarity: This misspelling is not related to Wikipedia in any way. It is a problem with google, or more accurately, with the http://www.dmoz.org/ database which Google uses. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 17:06, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

blackberry

do you have a blackberry version of the site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.166.141.151 (talk) 17:24, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

See WP:PDA for information on portable versions of Wikipedia. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:35, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

home page

How do i make wikipedia my homepage? Hat hat (talk) 17:57, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

That depends on what browser you use. If you use Firefox, go to Wikipedia's main page, click on Tools, then click on "Main" at the top, and under the Home page URL, click "use current page". If you use IE, click on Tools, then click "use current" where it says "Home page". If you use another browser, they should all be fairly similar, with a "Tools" or "Preferences" menu, and a way to configure the URL for your homepage. Hope that helped, Ariel♥Gold 18:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

You will have to bookmark it, for Firefix click the bookmarks tab then bookmark this page, following the process. For Internet Explorer, go to favourites then follow the process. Hope this helps! —Qst 18:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

i need help

how do you add stuff to a pre existing article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.253.198.153 (talk) 18:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

You can either click the "edit this page" tab at the top of an article, or you can click the [edit] link on the right side of sections. See Wikipedia's manual of style, layout guide, your first article, article development, and how to edit for assistance. Ariel♥Gold 19:00, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

translations

Does Wikipedia have a translation page for words and phrases? Also is there a general translation page for longer transcriptions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.228.81.96 (talk) 19:49, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Copyrights

Can we use documents on Wikipedia for teaching classes?