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I have heard the suggestion, from a musician friend, that the choral backups to popular music necessitated by the musicians' strike of 1942-1943 created a niche for vocal imitation of instrumentation and may be related to the emergence of doo-wop. Any corroboration of this would add measurably to the article. Incidentally, I just did some copyediting cleanup of it--nothing major. There is some disagreement as to the spelling of "Night/Nite" in the Five Satins recording, "In the Still of the Night/Nite" (which in fact only features four of them). My musician friend has the original published sheet music for it, where it's spelled "Night." I could only find one CD that lists the song with the spelling "Nite"; all the others use "Night," and I fixed it accordingly.

Jordansmith 21:55, 24 December 2006 (UTC)jordansmith[reply]

I would like to see this article updated to include the most recent doo-wop hit. I believe it was "It's Alright" by Huey Lewis and the News, which reached #4 on the U.S. Billboard charts in June 1993. Since doo-wop is an American invention, I believe only the U.S. chart should be used, and only a chart position of 10 or better should be considered a hit.

I will wait to see if any one has a more recent example, or if anyone objects to the criteria before I edit the article. --Freshmutt 22:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

While the song is more of am amalgam/tribute, should there be a mention of Lauryn Hill's 'Doo wop (that thing')?--88.218.14.45 23:42, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is not intended to be an article, but only an observation.

Your existing artile on doo-wop credits the influence of the Ink Spots and the Mills Brothers, but neglects to mention The Cats & the Fiddle, whose ballad style was much closer to doo-wop ballad style than anything the other two groups did.

The Cats a& the Fiddle accompanied themselves with two guitars, a 10-stringed ukulele-like instrument called a tipple, and a double bass (a.k.a. as a "bull fiddle," hence the group's name). Their up-tempo recordings were very jazzy, featuring some scat singing and the like; but their ballads, especially "I Miss You So" (1940), were the REAL antecedents of the Fifties and Early Sixties doo-wop ballad style.

I couldn't find an article on this group. I think you should write a page for the Cats & the Fiddle and then see about adding them to this article. I've heard of the Ink Spots and the Mills Brothers, but not The Cats & the Fiddle. Maybe they had a doo-wop sound, but did they really influence other musicians?

I agree that the Cats and the Fiddle should be included, their influence is undeniable especially the song "Gangbusters" which has a "doo-wheet" chourus in the beginning. I also agree that an article about them should be written so that a link can be included. 12.176.164.211 17:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)darbycrash[reply]

I made a minor edit to the "history" section. While no one would argue that poverty at the time struck blacks especially hard, it is a strong exaggeration to say that black teenagers never could afford to buy instruments. The rest of my edit was an alteration to the style of the writing. Feel free to change that part back if you think it flows better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.115.1.4 (talk) 13:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How weird

I had never heard of any "doo wop" genre of music until recently. The article is factitious because it emphasizes a thing which never existed in the past. Music was called Rock and Roll music, not "doo wop." An NPOV tag is deserved and appropriate.

HeyYallYo (talk) 07:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's not really a NPOV dispute; it's an accuracy dispute. In any case, I think the existence of doo wop is well established (James Miller's Flowers in the Dustbin is one source of many). There was never a time when all music was called "rock and roll". If you'd like to add a different viewpoint on what doo wop is, please cite a reliable source neutrally. I'm removing the NPOV. 08:15, 22 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by TUF-KAT (talk • contribs)

I AM NOT "DISPUTING" ANYTHING. Negroes never sang any "doo wop" songs. They sang songs which were not known as "doo wop."

HeyYallYo (talk) 18:22, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rhythm and Blues, Soul, etal., were music fields that existed in the 1950s, but not "doo wop."

HeyYallYo (talk) 08:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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+:::'''[[Rhythm and blues|Rhythm and Blues]]''', '''[[Soul music|Soul]]''', etal., were music fields that existed in the 1950s, but not "doo wop."
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