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Any reason this is at Chi (Greek letter) rather than Chi (letter) (which is just a redirect to here), unlike every other Greek letter? Assuming no objections, I'd like to move it for consistency's sake. -- DrBob 18:04, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

None I can see. Support move. Septentrionalis 22:31, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. Dragons flight 04:49, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation - something is wrong here

... it is pronounced like the German ach-laut (/χ/) or in Scottish 'loch'.
ach-laut: Voiceless velar fricative
/χ/ (notice the uppercase): Voiceless uvular fricative.

Now what is the correct consonantal sound? --Abdull 17:29, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe there's variation in German, and perhaps also in Greek, between [x] and [χ], depending on dialect. --Ptcamn 17:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Usage

isn't X (Chi) used in XoXoXo (-> Kiss Kiss Kiss) ? (not a rhetorical question, I'm French) -- 10:00, 30 June 2006 (UTC+2) It's not really the point... Wikisquared 10:23, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, kissing the sign of the Cross when swearing an oath, or 'signing' your name if you can't write. Now thought to be an ex. Worthwhile adding. kwami (talk) 10:00, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

origin

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It was introduced as a variant of Phoenician 𐤎‎ (samekh).

No source, and the writer may have gotten confused with the use of either Ξ or Χ for /ks/ in different Greek dialects. (I have heard the idea that both qoppa and phi derived from Ph. /q/, when Archaic Greek /kʷʰ/ split into /kʷʰ/ and pʰ, but not this.) kwami (talk) 09:58, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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+Any reason this is at [[Chi (Greek letter)]] rather than [[Chi (letter)]] (which is just a redirect to here), unlike every other Greek letter? Assuming no objections, I'd like to move it for consistency's sake. -- [[User:DrBob|DrBob]] 18:04, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
+*None I can see. '''Support''' move. [[User:Pmanderson|Septentrionalis]] 22:31, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
+''This article has been renamed after the result of a [[wikipedia:requested moves|move request]].'' [[User:Dragons flight|Dragons flight]] 04:49, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
+== Pronunciation - something is wrong here ==
+*'''... it is pronounced like the German ach-laut (/χ/) or in Scottish 'loch'.'''
+*ach-laut: [[Voiceless velar fricative]]
+*/χ/ (notice the uppercase): [[Voiceless uvular fricative]].
+Now what is the correct consonantal sound? --[[User:Abdull|Abdull]] 17:29, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
+:I believe there's variation in German, and perhaps also in Greek, between [x] and [χ], depending on dialect. --[[User:Ptcamn|Ptcamn]] 17:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
+== Usage ==
+isn't X (Chi) used in XoXoXo (-> Kiss Kiss Kiss) ? (not a rhetorical question, I'm French) -- 10:00, 30 June 2006 (UTC+2)
+It's not really the point... [[User:Wikisquared|Wikisquared]] 10:23, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
+:Yes, kissing the sign of the Cross when swearing an oath, or 'signing' your name if you can't write. Now thought to be an ex. Worthwhile adding. [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 10:00, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
+== origin ==
+removed:
+:It was introduced as a variant of Phoenician [[Samekh| {{Script|Phnx|𐤎}}]] (samekh).
+No source, and the writer may have gotten confused with the use of either Ξ or Χ for /ks/ in different Greek dialects. (I have heard the idea that both qoppa and phi derived from Ph. /q/, when Archaic Greek {{IPA|/kʷʰ/}} split into {{IPA|/kʷʰ/}} and {{IPA|pʰ}}, but not this.) [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 09:58, 27 November 2007 (UTC)