User talk:GRBerry/Archive 8

• Archive 1: April 20 to June 26, 2006
• Archive 2: June 27 to September 10, 2006
• Archive 3: September 11 to December 30, 2006

At this point I became an admin. Subsequent archives are by bots, so in the order conversations became stale rather than the order they were created.

• Archive 4: December 31, 2006 to January 27, 2007
• Archive 5: January 31, 2007 to May 31, 2007
• Archive 6: June 1, 2007 to September 1, 2007
• Archive 7: September 2, 2007 to October 29, 2007
• Archive 8: October 30, 2007 to December 31, 2007
• Archive 9: January 1, 2008 to March 31, 2008
• Archive 10: April 1, 2008 to August 31, 2008
• Archive 11: September 1, 2008 to ongoing

This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

PR - mentorship where

i appreciate your attempts to keep things preventative, rather than merely punitive. however, i don't quite follow your reasoning that about this issue [1]. this issue has been repeating itself for at least 3 months and already both his mentors (discounting the sock) and a good number of more editors noted the user to stop. i believe PR is more than aware of what he is doing but he keeps trying, just as he kept calling me a war criminal after an ANI about that issue was already open. so, personally, i've lost my patience and i'm more than interested in preventative action. post-ANI link [2] (clarifies current issue). Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 07:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

You and he have a dispute. The two of you need to solve it. You can find a way to work amicably together (best), you can find a way to ignore each other (acceptable), or you can both end up in advanced forms of dispute resolution. I think if you go the third path, both of you will end up under sanctions. My advice is to either find a way for each of you to ignore the other, or to find a way to work together. I'd recommend you both practice Wikipedia:Writing for the enemy. GRBerry 13:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

"You and he have a dispute." - honestly, you've left me speechless. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 22:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Sokolče

Hi, why did You revert back incorrect redirect Sokolče-Sokolce? It is usually and due to logic that we have redirects like Zilina-Žilina, Kosice-Košice, Roznava-Rožňava, but make it in opposite way ? We have in Slovakia town Zvolen, so I can make redirects: Žvolen-Zvolen, Zvoleň-Zvolen, Zvolén-Zvolen, Žvoleň-Zvolen, etc... ? Please, delete that, that was created as mistake by non-Slovak user, it is not just incorrect, but also confusing, because in Slovakia existed real village Sokolče (now inundated) and we noticed it in article of Stan Mikita, who was born there. Nice day and thank You for understanding --kelovy 17:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to hear.

I won't bother you with my understanding of what a mentor should be like! PR^talk 14:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Delete review req

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Marion Smith. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Setanta 05:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Delete review req

This is my first time on Wikipedia and I'm trying to gather the differences of what is needed and what is not. The article in question is for Academic Management Systems. I'm trying to write an encyclopedic worthy article, much like CBS corporation and Pepsi, but am unable to do so due to the deletion. How can I appeal this decision until I'm finished editing the article? I am still learning how to add things like a table and other things and when i was just typing article and tried to save originally, it never saved and deleted all of my work which is why I am saving more piece-meal to make sure my work doesn't get lost. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Awarskig (talk • contribs) 15:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

My advice would be first to check WP:CORP, if you haven't done so already. Then, put the "spammy" text in your sandbox (here: User:Awarskig/sandbox), and work it from here until you feel it's encyclopedic. Policies you might want to check WP:N, WP:RS, WP:NPOV. Last but not least, check how to write a good article. Good luck.--victor falk 22:38, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Belt Alliance fighter

I have read the guidlines and from my understanding and also from my viewing of the other starship pages my page is perfectly in line... tell me specifically what I missed and I'll do what I can. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caltair (talk • contribs) 22:38, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Louisdale, Nova Scotia

By deleting it, I'm unable to see what was happening. Can you explain in details what happened? Andrew⁶⁴⁷ 19:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I'll try, but I didn't fully sort the details; indeed; some of the explanation below I am sorting out in more detail now than I did earlier. I'm not sure what the conflict is about or who the real participants are; it appears to be a non-Wikipedia conflict spilling over onto us. That may be an ethnic conflict element from the looks of it, which surprises me for Nova Scotia. (But honeymooning there certainly doesn't make me an expert on the province's history).

1. The old copyright violation is from this geocities website or some other clone thereof. It was originally added in September 2006 by User:Johncena325.
2. Sometime in the next 12 months, the copyright of that section was questioned by a comment at the top of it, but nothing was really done.
3. On 5 September 2007, User:Uglybaraco222 described the history as bogus and added a lot of material that was either based on, or copied from [louisdaleisgrandiqueferry.piczo.com this site]. This was reverted as vandalism by a recent changes patroller.
4. On 7 September 2007, User:Billpeters888 was next along; he didn't make any immediately obvious substantive changes to the article.
5. The article stated essentially unchanged to 31 October 2007, but the alert about copyright issue vanished, as did all vestiges of sourcing. At this point the history section covered settlement to 1856.
6. On this date, User:142.167.242.246 came and roughly doubled the length of the history section going up to 1962 (clearly a copyvio from somewhere, I'm not sure where) added a WP:BLP violation regarding "Father Gary MacPherson", and encouragements to go to this [www.fathergaryisafake.piczo.com attack/dispute site].
7. A RC patroller flagged for speedy deletion. I confirmed that the community is a real place, and declined and flagged the article on 31 October. We had subsequent edits by User:142.167.227.227. When I had more time for review (wee hours this morning), I came back and eliminated the BLP violation and reference to the dispute site. At some point in here [www3.sympatico.ca/cormier.jp/other_html_history_of_louisdale.html. this] got claimed as a source.
8. Then, near 11 AM Atlantic time today, User:Grandiqueferry revised the "History" section title to be "Revisionist History" and referenced the same site that Uglybaraco222 had used. An RC patroller reverted as vandalism, then User:Toddst1 spotted the copyright violation.
9. I deleted the old copyright violation, completely eliminating the history section.
10. Grandiqueferry readded some of the copyright violating material, and Toddst1 listed at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2007 November 2/Articles.
11. I happened to make the next addition to the copyright problem page, confirmed that it was a repeated copyright violation, and deleted the problem edits again. I then protected and requested help.

That is the mess, as best I can sort it out. It looks like an outside conflict spilling over onto us, combined with violations of copyright, violations of WP:NOR, and possible sockpuppetry. Why this is occurring over a small community in Nova Scotia is beyond me. GRBerry

Wow, insane. Andrew⁶⁴⁷ 04:43, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

CSBot copycat

Allright, that was amusing. I guess this means CSBot's activity is now considered so "normal" that even vandals recognize its significance.  :-) — Coren ^(talk) 02:13, 3 November 2007 (UTC)