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Unless somebody can show something other than unsupported speculations that he was in fact Portuguese, either directly or indirectly, then we should go with [[Ockham's razor]] and say he was Galician orat the very least Spanish. "Traditionally..." (in the English and Portuguese speaking worlds; no less!!!) is not good enough! |
Unless somebody can show something other than unsupported speculations that he was in fact Portuguese, either directly or indirectly, then we should go with [[Ockham's razor]] and say he was Galician orat the very least Spanish. "Traditionally..." (in the English and Portuguese speaking worlds; no less!!!) is not good enough! |
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December 2007. I have removed the speculation about Portuguese ancestory. I cannot find a single source to support this notion, from Collingridge to Hilder, there is no mention of this at all. --[[User:Nickm57|Nickm57]] ([[User talk:Nickm57|talk]]) 08:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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- Nobody is recorded as calling Torres a Portuguese - but they often referred to Quiros as such - which was one of the sources of tension with the crews
- There is no document indicating he was Portuguese or from Portuguese origins.
- There is only the statements were he is called a "Breton" which in those days simply meant "Celt".
- Nothing he wrote is in Portuguese or hints at a Portuguese background.
- There is only the fanciful roundabout speculations that he was descended of Portuguese who lived in Brittany simply due to an ancient misunderstanding that "Breton" meant he was from Brittany.
Unless somebody can show something other than unsupported speculations that he was in fact Portuguese, either directly or indirectly, then we should go with Ockham's razor and say he was Galician orat the very least Spanish. "Traditionally..." (in the English and Portuguese speaking worlds; no less!!!) is not good enough!
December 2007. I have removed the speculation about Portuguese ancestory. I cannot find a single source to support this notion, from Collingridge to Hilder, there is no mention of this at all. --Nickm57 (talk) 08:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)