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Evolution

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It has become apparent as of late that Stephen Hawking has recanted in his acceptance of the Theory of Evolution. He has come out in disapproval of the theory and now stating tha Additionally, he asserts that scientists have "naively" accepted this theory and have not done so on the basis of the objective evidence supporting it, as there is absolutely none. Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO2l7ziEIuk

I'm sorry, but we only used reliable sources as references here on Wikipedia, not easily forged Youtube videos. And special attention is given to statements about living people. Please make sure you have a reliable source (e.g. mainstream newspapers, academic journals, Hawking's website, etc.) for any further claims. Danski14^(talk) 00:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is it just me, or does the video look like a really bad fake made with the text-to-speech functionality built into Windows? He doesn't normally speak that fast, and he pauses between forming statements. — George^[talk] 01:57, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, this page is not fully protected; I'm disabling the editprotected tag. — Carl (CBM · talk) 04:03, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The author claim's he/she doesn't use Windows so perhaps it's the Mac variant Nil Einne 16:34, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

People who post such obvious forgeries are hardly trustworthy with statements regarding their OS. However, yes, you can easily fake this kind of thing with any OS, including Mac OS X and Windows. The bottom line, however, is that the audio is an obvious fake. — George^[talk] 21:17, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh please, he is one of the Project Steve signatories. I really wonder how creationists can claim the moral high ground with all this deception. Degenerates, the lot of them. --78.16.53.60 22:39, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For crying out loud, people, this was obviously a joke on the original posters part. Then again, you folks who believe your ancestor is a monkey are obviously broken enough in the brain to miss a fairly obvious joke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.163.0.42 (talk) 18:26, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is clearly 'Bruce' one of the voices on Mac OS, It is not the voice of Dr. Hawking's talking machine. --Dp67 | QSO | Sandbox | UBX's 18:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear Statement

"He lost balance and fell down a flight of stairs, hitting his head".Was that the cause of his illness?

nope, that's what his illness caused :p 74.124.76.121 22:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Illness

With all due respect to Professor Hawking and his massive achievements, I find it kind of odd that the thing you notice most if you see him, his illness, isn't mentioned at all in the introduction, I really think it needs to be mentioned there. 84.108.245.222 16:06, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A simple, brief note for those that might come to glance at the introduction without knowing much of him? Maybe a biographical caption for the photo? I agree, I think. --Kenneth M Burke 18:17, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He doesn't like being known for his illness. Apparently. I read a biography. 74.124.76.121 22:06, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's up to Mr. Hawking to decide what he's known for - I'm sure OJ Simpson didn't desire to be infamous for murdering Nicole Brown, but nonetheless.. In any event, I agree, many people come here looking for more information on his illness; I know I did. So why shouldn't it be included in the introduction? 12.150.23.178 14:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the page should respect Dr. Hawking, but we can't very well ask his opinion - or can we? The concern was for those that might come to the page and see the photo while knowing nothing about him. Now, I guess the concern should really be that the introductory paragraph mentions his illness and those people that know nothing about it. Certainly, people aren't guilty of having a disease in the same way that individuals are guilty of murder. --Kenneth M Burke 01:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BLP

I've removed the "Comments on the future of earth and humanity" the entire section makes him sound loopy, which is contrary to both the spirit and the letter of the WP:BLP--—(Kepin)^{RING THE LIBERTY BELL} 17:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They are his own words, appropriately sourced. I judge WP:BLP differently, that much is apparent, but I don't hold the particular passages as being particularly contentuous. People being made to sound "loopy", as you put it, is only questionable if it's done by unsourced claims or by other people's words. --Agamemnon2 18:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't agree. It is easily possible to quote people out of context or to otherwise misuse what people have said in whichever way you please. Generally speaking, it is best to rely on statements picked up by secondary sources rather then excessive quotation from primary sources to explain people views (which often results in novel intepretations hence is OR). In this specific case it doesn't seem to apply to what was removed but that doesn't change the fact that something being 'sourced' to someone's 'own words' doesn't automatically mean there are no BLP concerns Nil Einne 09:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Popular Culture

I just noticed that Stephen Hawking might have been parodied in the 1980's film Wargames! There was a main character called Steven Falken. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Stephen Hawking guest starred as himself on "Star Trek the Next Generation", appearing on the holodeck in a poker match with Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton and Commander Data (Brent Spiner). There was also a TNG shuttle christened after Dr. Hawking as well (TNG 197). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.170.76.253 (talk) 22:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

God Created the Integers

Why does God Created the Integers redirect here? The only time it is mentioned in the article is one line under "Technical" publications section. I think if there is no article on the book, then it should just point to a non-existent page, why redirect to the editor? --DFRussia 21:13, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Information

It seems unlikely that Stephen Hawking would go to St Albans High School for Girls. This was obviously a confusion, a mistake, vandalism, or a cheap joke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.125.43.135 (talk) 16:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]