Talk:Racing Club de Avellaneda

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Great article. I did do some minor work on the first paragraph, just clarifying that the barrio was part of the metro area, not the city, as the wiki on the community states. --{{SUBST:User:Coryma}} 23:44, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

"Racing Club" most commonly means this side. I propose that the Argentina club's article be moved to simple "Racing Club"... and the disambiguation page there be renamed "Racing Club (disambiguation)".

From the others, the two most noted clubs are Racing Club de Strasbourg and Racing de Santander, unlike the Argentina club these two are never just known as "Racing Club".. their common name is RC Strasbourg and Racing Santander. - Sivorian (talk) 14:30, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

• Support. This club is the most important "Racing Club", having won the Copa Intercontinental in 1967 making them the most significant Racing Club in terms of international competitions, in fact they are the only Racing Club to have won a significant continental title (Copa Libertadores 1966). They are also the only major team consistently referred to as simply "Racing Club". King of the NorthEast 17:25, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose no evidence of usage of "Racing Club" to predominantly mean this club in English 132.205.44.5 (talk) 22:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose per 132.205.44.5. JPG-GR (talk) 02:46, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose It is a common name and no evidence is given to support the claim of being significantly more well-known by the simple name alone than all the others. older ≠ wiser 19:00, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose per anonymous user --Lox (t,c) 22:34, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
• This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related page moves. Woody (talk) 22:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose I agree with the sentiments of the above comments. There is no basis for renaming this in the English Encyclopedia. Racing Club is very common in the English speaking world. Woody (talk) 22:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

• Support. It is the name by which it's known worldwide, and especially in Latin America. -- Alexf^{(Talk/Contribs)} 23:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose - There are too many "Racing Club"s in the world to apply the term specifically to this club. Even the club's own official website refers to them as "Racing Club de Avellaneda" on a number of occasions, not least the titlebar and in the title graphic. – PeeJay 00:07, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose per many of the above. There are just too many "Racing Club"s in the world, as PeeJay rightly says, and there is not a single indication that the term "Racing Club" predominantly refers to this particular club, as 132.205.44.5 rightly says. Aecis^Brievenbus 01:13, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

• 132.205.44.5 (from the USA) ignorantly asserted on RFM that the club was not refered to as just Racing Club in the English media, yet every single major English language media proves this shallow unresearched opinion to be comepltely wrong, so his stance fails Wikipedia:Verifiability, and this evidence proves that they are known as just "Racing Club" worldwide.

BBC.co.uk - "Racing Club of Argentina"

ESPN.com - "Racing Club Profile"

SportsIllustrated.com - "Team Pages - Racing Club"

People Daily Online - "Simeone to coach Racing Club"

DailyMail.co.uk - "spells at (...) Racing Club in the 1990s"

NYTimes.com - "play at Racing Club’s stadium"

TimesOnline.co.uk - "the antics of Racing Club kicking Celtic"

Guardian.co.uk - "coaching career at Racing Club"

Topix.com - "Moralez set to leave Racing Club and.."

DailyStar.net - "Racing Club and San Lorenzo"

SportsNetwork.com - "Racing Club coach Ubaldo Fillol"

Reuters.com - "returns to Racing Club after 11 years"

Goal.com "place at Racing Club's stadium"

AOL.com - "Racing Club 4-2 Godoy Cruz"

Yahoo.com - "Racing Club and led Estudiantes", etc, etc.

He has yet to provide an example of the English language media consistantly calling the club "Racing Club de Avellaneda". None of the other, historically less significant clubs have the name in common media, and this is the club who is housed at RacingClub.com - Sivorian (talk) 06:46, 21 December 2007 (UTC)