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===BRMHS===
==BRMHS==


There is a discussion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Baton_Rouge_Magnet_High_School) should you have issue to the physical condition of the building being part of the wiki entry for BRMHS. Simply undoing repeatedly is unhelpful and childish. [[User:Cozret|Cozret]] ([[User talk:Cozret|talk]]) 13:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
There is a discussion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Baton_Rouge_Magnet_High_School) should you have issue to the physical condition of the building being part of the wiki entry for BRMHS. Simply undoing repeatedly is unhelpful and childish. [[User:Cozret|Cozret]] ([[User talk:Cozret|talk]]) 13:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

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Waring

You have recently edited the article Fontainebleau High School, which was reverted in accordance with Wikipedia's vandalism policies. Please do not vandalize the article. If you disagree with the article, you may ask for a review. 75.0.10.229 (talk) 23:09, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


BRMHS

There is a discussion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Baton_Rouge_Magnet_High_School) should you have issue to the physical condition of the building being part of the wiki entry for BRMHS. Simply undoing repeatedly is unhelpful and childish. Cozret (talk) 13:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have not simply undone, I have explained in every case. Putting a bunch of pictures that claim that the school is falling apart is no longer illustration, it is editorial. In such case it needs to meet WP:VER and WP:RS. Also, giving the pictures undue weight would be a problem. When all those guidelines can be met it would be appropriate to add the pictures or a subset of them. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 18:48, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The city is voicing a plan to move the school out of the build due to the damage, and you want to call it an editorial. . .it's a fact. Cozret (talk) 23:34, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You misunderstood. I was discussing your pictures. Normally pictures are illustrations, but when they're used to push a point that isn't supported by text, they become of themselves editorial content. If you had strong reliable sources supporting your point, adding pictures would return to illustrative. As it is, the article is not in compliance with wiki guidelines. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 00:04, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stopping power

The issue over reliable source in the stopping power article appears to be entirely secondary to the conflict of interest, as Michael Courtney appears to be quoting his own work, which is a clear WP:COI as half the references listed are papers he coauthored. Certainly that's undue weight, if nothing else. scot (talk) 15:09, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's funny, because the issue I raised at Talk:Stopping_power#Quality sources was about the source which was a peta website. Michael's response has ignored that part of the issue entirely. I hadn't caught the WP:COI element of it. It does look problematic. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 18:51, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Adminship?

Hey! I think, it's about time you started blocking your own sockpuppets! If you're interested, I'd be happy to nominate you Over there. :) SQLQuery me! 20:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

An intriguing thought - what all is involved? I see some RFAs go smoothly, others get nasty. Plus what is expected of admins, other than "doing what you're already doing"? I see references to admin coaching as well. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 22:52, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of it is just going about as you already are, but, with additional permissions. Some required reading, if you haven't already been there is Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list. You're right, too, some go very smoothly, as this user that I nominated, Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Od Mishehu, some... No so much, like mine Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/SQL (I still passed, however). Some, really get nasty. I think it all depends who's awake that week :). There's nothing really 'expected' of administrators, other than to be fair, calm, and trustworthy, as well, to have a decent grasp on the policies. Some days, it's real rewarding, some days, it's a huge pain (particularly on the days, where 3-4 people forget about WP:AGF :( ). As far as admin coaching goes, I think that project's pretty much dormant now. Anyhow, you might want to think about it for a bit, it's an intense process, and, can be extremely harsh. If you've got any questions, I've got this page watchlisted, and, you can always reach me via e-mail. SQLQuery me! 02:13, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've been reading lots of stuff, thanks for the link to the reading list. Obviously a lot of that I'm already familiar with. It's funny because doing vandal patrol you sometimes run into unhappy editors, but it seems unlikely such individuals take part in RFA anyway. It certainly would make dealing with obvious socks easier, as well as some of the vandalism work. Let's give it a shot and see how it goes. We'll see how far WP:AGF can take it. Thanks for your confidence, as well as your constant assistance with problems. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 02:55, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, everything you've brought to me was in valid need of action :) I'll paste in the RFA in a sec (I've had one typed up for at least a day now). I would reccomend turning on you wikipedia e-mail as well, btw. SQLQuery me! 04:52, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I saw that on the admin page and did it about 10 minutes ago. I think I may change the address there eventually, but for now I'll leave it alone. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 05:02, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'm off to answer the three questions before I cross the bridge of death. (Apologies if you're not a Monty Python fan). AliveFreeHappy (talk) 05:19, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I accepted the nomination and answered the questions - your move. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 06:22, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. My standard advice is "don't wear out the refresh key" :P SQLQuery me! 06:35, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A "Blog" Site is Not Always Just a Personal Blog

Regarding one of your recent deletions:

I guess that we just disagree on relevance. I will defer to your judgment. However, in the future, please consider that not every website with "blog" in its name is merely a daily personal missive about the writer's mood, the weather, their passionate love of Paris, and what they are planning to make for dinner. The "blog" page that I cited (www.survivalblog.com) is widely-read (with more than 52,000 weekly unique visitors in more than 50 countries) and is considered a technical reference by many shooting enthusiasts and preparedness-minded individuals. This blog's related static pages include several FAQs that LONG pre-date the advent of "blogs", and that even pre-date the Internet as we now know it. (Three of these FAQs got their start in the late 1980s, before "WWW" browsing was extant.)

IMHO, the static reference page in question--the reference page on whether or not certain types of ammunition are corrosively primed--provides valuable data for many shooters. But again, I am deferring to your judgment and won't attempt to re-post or argue this any further. Based on on your log, I can see that you have more experience about judging deletion criteria than I do. -- Jeff Trasel, 1547 EST , 23 Dec. 2007

I saw the technical data there. However that technical data wouldn't fit the guidlines for reliable sources so we can't really take it into account when evaluating the link. Did you get a chance to read the external link guidelines? One thing that maybe changes the equation is "blogs that are a recognized authority". Typically such recognition comes from reliable third-party sources, such as newspapers, magazines, etc. Do you know of any that talk about the site you referenced? The fact that your site is visited by a lot of people doesn't really say anything in regards to whether it should be included. Lots of sites that aren't appropriate external links have high visitor counts. But if you were able to show that it is considered a valuable technical reference using a third-party source I'd change my mind. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 21:36, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

(note - the first 3 paragraphs of this is copied from User talk:Kingturtle#Block question)

The edit history does not seem to match this interpretation. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 09:45, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because you are not a Sikh you don't have the religious cultural knowledge of the highly offensive religious cultural insult he said to Sikh scholar
"do not refer yourself as Khalsa and insult such a pure word of our community" = To say this to a baptized Khalsa Sikh is the equivalent of saying his mother is a prostitute.--Sikh historian (talk) 09:59, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
AliveFreeHappy, someone has blocked Sikh scholar please unblock Sikh scholar one can understand his emotional outburst after the highly offensive religious insult he was subjected to. Lets not lose an expert Sikh Wikipedian over a vandal, only Wikipedia will suffer long term to lose a long time expert Wikipedian such as Sikh Scholar. Please do justice get him unblocked.--Sikh historian (talk) 10:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sikh scholar was blocked because of making death threats. Such response is inappropriate, even to a perceived insult. If you disagree with the block, please leave a message with the admin who placed the block. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 10:45, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Ok I understand, but rules are supposed to be used in context nothing has meaning without context. To apply rule blindly and moronically ,Means you do not understand the goal or objective. Therefore, your statement only makes sense with context and under that context and background only a warning or point of reference was enough. No wonder Wikipedia is going down hill when blanket rules are used without any context when people who don't understand anything except the label of thing as Richard feynman once said. Thanks but please don't leave a reply.--Sikh historian (talk) 10:55, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A threat of violence in context is still a threat of violence, and definitely qualifies as uncivil behavior as well as a violation of WP:NPA. Plus I don't see how Sikh scholar reconciles this "A Sikh is NEVER aggressive, rude or offensive"[1] with this "You deserve excution - you stupid dumb fu*k"[2]. It just doesn't seem to fit. At any rate, again, you can petition the blocking admin (which appears to be User:Stephen [3]) with the arguments you've made here and see what they say. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 11:07, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That actually wrong "I'm going to kill you" in a different context could be a joke or a harsh get lost. Well lets agree to disagree because it seems you will not understand the concept of context that I'm trying to make you understand. In Sikhism you are allowed to use force when something sacred like honour or life is being attacked verbally or physical, Sikhism is not a pacifist religion. Anyway this is my final reply -thanks.--Sikh historian (talk) 11:14, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's actually fairly simple in this case. Two users were uncivil to each other, both were blocked temporarily. It seems to be the correct action. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 11:27, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Even as a joke, "Its scum like you that needs to be executed. You deserve excution - you stupid dumb fu*k everyone in my family over 500 members are Baptized Khalsa SIKHS. We have been Khalsa Sikhs for over 400 years you dumb fu*ker. Because you have insulted me and broken the teachings of the Guru Granth Sahib you deserve death -you dumb fu*ker.", is not appropriate here, even remotely. And, I don't even ALMOST see context for that to be anything less than what it is -- a threat. SQLQuery me! 14:56, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your warning

If you go to AN/I you will see that the editor you are defending is a sock of a banned user who is injecting anti-Semitism into that article. Arrow740 (talk) 10:43, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am not defending anyone. I happen to see two editors reverting each other on an article, I issued warnings to both, since sometimes people get caught up in the moment and don't realize what's happening, or are even unaware of the WP:3RR rule. If one of the users is indeed a vandal or sock, then of course an admin handling the article would take that into account. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 10:47, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

congratulations

A consensus has been reached by your peers that you should be an admin. I have made it so. Please review Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list and keep up the great work. Sincerely, Kingturtle (talk) 04:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much to you and to all who participated in the RFA. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 06:43, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, Good to see you made it!!! Congrats man! :) Let me know, if you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer them! :) SQLQuery me! 06:51, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Prepare to be pestered. (Not that I wasn't pestering you already). AliveFreeHappy (talk) 06:53, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Pfft. I love to be pestered :) Bring it on! SQLQuery me! 07:03, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh, I know, you might turn your nose up at it, btw, but, check out what I got for christmas! :) SQLQuery me! 08:08, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You automatic rifle guys... Seriously 9mm auto rifles are a lot of fun for plinking. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Do you reload? AliveFreeHappy (talk) 08:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not in 9mm yet, it didn't seem worth it, until I hit the shop today.... 1000 rds for $115. The stuff used to be $6/100! :( I do reload some 7.62, for my mosin (I'm one of those, that's afraid to shoot corrosives, in his collectibles), with an old hammer-press. I've not gotten to try it yet, but, it seems like it'd be a good plinker. That's mostly what I use my only other 9mm for. I thought I read that you were into semi-auto rifles! :P SQLQuery me! 08:20, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
One of these days I'll have to buy a progressive press. Mostly I reload rifle cartridges, especially some of the ones I have are wildcats, so there's no other way. I spend more time with my bolts than I do the semi-auto's, but I do have some of those as well. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 08:37, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations!

Congrats, and I wish you the best of luck with your new tools. Happy editing, --Midorihana(talk)(contribs) 07:29, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome

No problem AFH, just remember me down the road... ;-) --n1yaNt 07:38, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations!

Congratulations! Your user name is cool and I hope you will do a great job as an admin. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 08:46, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! You live in the United States. It is a free country. I am not an American but I like Americans. I admire liberal and free attitude of Americans. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 08:56, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats from me too! S♦s♦e♦b♦a♦l♦l♦o♦s (Talk to Me) 18:27, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I concur

"I do not believe all the current hype about Global warming, sudden Climate change, etc. There are too many holes in a large chain of hypotheses to give it any credibility."

I agree 100%. Oh and well done on your adminship! WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDENwe need to talk. 18:17, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hi

hi AliveFreeHappy,

This is harrybabbar...i am new to Wikipedia, maybe thats why i got blocked by whole gang of anti Sikh Wikipedian like Sikh Scholar, Sikh Historian and Gurkhaboy (who claim to be sikh)...but anyways I wanted to thank you for your support on blocking (even if temporary) Sikh Scholar for his demeaning words to me....All the points I made to Gurkhaboy would have made any true Sikh swell with pride bcoz that is the truth…I do not understand the reason for both Sikhs (Scholars & Historians) outburst against me (all the 20 mails that I sent which Kingturtle say I send, they are not spam...i had just forwarded Sikh Scholars demeaning mail to all this 20 people and asking for support on the issue)..... Anyways I will give whole line of my communication between myself and gurkhaboy and Sikh scholar when my block expires and thank you once again.

Harrybabbar —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.187.210.81 (talk) 15:49, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you recognize from the appropriate block given to both of you that uncivil behavior is not tolerated on wikipedia and that in the future you're take more care to work in a more cooperative way with others. Feel free to challenge people on accuracy, etc., but never attack or make insults about the editors themselves, this doesn't help anyone. Our goal is to build a better encyclopedia, and we need to keep that in mind. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 22:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick note, the same way Harrybabbar assumed the admin Khukri was a Gurkha, the same way he makes assumptions on everyone's identity. I never claimed to be a Sikh. Cheers, Gorkhali (talk) 19:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Nice!

Nice job on bringing some order and substance to Scripps Ranch High School! I have spent a lot of time deleting and reverting vandalism, andits nice to see some good stuff going up there. LonelyBeacon (talk) 02:17, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it still needs a LOT of work, but I've got it on my watchlist now. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 06:21, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hi AliveFreeHappy,

If you read my message to you properly you will see that Iam only addressing Sikh Scholar and Historian as Sikhs, see 3 rd line i quote...I do not understand the reason for both Sikhs (Scholars & Historians) outburst against me ....only on the 1st line i have included gurkhaboy name as Sikh Wikipedian (bcoz he is a part of it) I never said or assumed that he was a Sikh....anyway that is the way all this people have been playing with words and twisting and turning my statements and then getting me blocked all the time...anyways its for you to decide who is correct everything is in front of you . I till date have never insulted anyone or used unappropriate language) Yes I agree I was wrong in case of Khukri my mistake I accept (pls forward this message to Khukri also my request to you, bcoz iam new to wikipedia)...and I can never imagine a Gurkha as Sikh in my dreams and i am more then glad to set the record straight... I have to use this anon account bcoz I have been blocked and its not that I am hiding myself I have identified myself and witten to you I hope you understand

It will be of great help if you can guide me how to go about dealing with this guys....

59.181.121.67 (talk) 07:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC) harrybabbar[reply]

Please do not continue using an anonymous account, you have been blocked, and you need to wait until the block expires. If you want to discuss the block, you are allowed to edit your talk page, which I do have on my watchlist. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 07:27, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of nominating something for deletion...

...why not try and fix it before nominating it for deletion? I refer to the note you left on the talk page of my previous username' regarding the E-flite Blade CX and which I might never have noticed if not for the fact that I was going to redirect it to my current username. I'm only using the current account for purposes of bringing articles to Veropedia. Did you not happen to notice that I had retired from this project as a regular editor?

It's precisely this kind of garbage and the total lack of respect for established editors which drove me off of this site in the first place. Frankly, I'm getting paid to write articles on hobby products; the article you nominated isn't an ad at all and I wrote actual ad copy for more than fifteen years. Have a happy new year. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 08:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IMO it couldn't be fixed, that's why I nominated it. In addition to being unsourced and written much like an ad, it just didn't have anything to establish notability. It's pretty difficult for any particular hobbyist product to reach an appropriate level of notability to have it's own article. I'm glad that Veropedia has a place for it, not everything belongs in Wikipedia. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 09:26, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't move this particular article to Veropedia, but thanks for the support nonetheless. I agree that it's orphaned and no one other than myself has stepped up to fix it, so perhaps it's best deleted. It was also written a heck of a long time ago while I was still working on style. However, it's notable in hobbyist circles as being one of the most popular - if not the most popular - entry-level model helicopter on the market today. There are numerous aftermarket hop-ups for the thing, not to mention more than 17,000 distinct Google hits. The new version, not mentioned here, is the only one of its type to incorporate 2.4 GHz radio technology...and it's the same model helicopter you see flying around in the new "Alvin and The Chipmunks" movie. Take some heartfelt and friendly advice from an ex-administrator who seems to be having trouble falling asleep right now: Playing "wikicop" will only drive you nuts, especially when dealing with established users who tend to bite when cornered (yes, I admit I bit you). I got bitten hard and often until I learned not to be so bullish on patrol. That leads to burnout. Not good. There are more vandals and miscreants than there are those with the means to block them, i.e., you're needed. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 10:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the change of heart, it's appreciated. I'd be more than happy withdraw my nomination if you can point me to or add some reliable third-party sources that talk about these products. Obviously you know more about them than I do, so I assume its easier for you, just as if I asked you to find sources for some particular firearm or cartridge. You probably have easy access to publications that may not be available on the internet. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 19:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I see from the AFD that you plan on improving it, so I have withdrawn the AFD. Edit away. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 20:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Doctorate

Wiki Doctorate is a new scheme designed to recognise the people who "do all the work" on Wikipedia. It has been mainly developed for Wikipedia administrators however if you have done lots to keep Wikipedia on "the straight and narrow", including bieng members of different groups which help Wikipedia i.e "The Welcoming Committee. We have selected to email you because you can apply for the doctorate and we would be very greateful ifo you did and put the userbox on your user page to boost advertising. The following link will take you straight to our homepage.

Yours sincerely

--Dr.J.Wright MD (talk) 23:26, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats

Anyway, my point was that a new admin can be dangerous if he or she has experience in only a single topic - not even in related topics. My advice, unsolicited, is to stay out of debates on topics that you are not familiar until you graduate from New Admin School. Bearian (talk) 15:37, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]