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Onorem♠Dil

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Message from Much2much

Greetings Onorem I am troubled by your edit I put a external link on Neal Walk's, Al Jefferson's and Ronny Seikaly's pages that clearly added more value to the page I am a big fan of the NBA draft and follow it frequently. I put a site many that many draftfreaks follow draft history which is www.thedraftreview.com. Can you please tell me what or how this is considered spam how does this disrepect wiki. I donate to wiki on a financial level and I go through many NBA player profiles fixing errors so again please tell me what am I doing wrong so I can avoid doing it in the future. Because if I am being singled out becuase I am linking one website link on a few pages then I feel like this is the internet equilivent of being pulled by a cop just because I am black. So if I added sportsline here, NBAdraft.net here, draftexpress here then I would be okay? Respectfully I thought the idea of Wikipedia is to write collaboratively about everything through people all around the world. Instead it seems like to me it's okay only if somebody that I never met deems the information vital. The site I submitted is used by NBA personal all around the US because it's the only place on the internet to really understand NBA draft history. The even more frustrating thing with this is that I don't like being labled a spammer it's a black eye that I really find insulting. You never talked to me you never tried to find out if I was indeed spamming. What if I said to you that you puposely block links that don't put money in your pocket or that you accept brides from people? No I am taking the time to respectfully find out why you think this is instead of putting up on a bullentin like you have done to me. I like my clean rep on wikipedia I want to keep it this way. Much2much (talk) 07:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I didn't mean for my reverts to trouble you. Your link addition looked very much like spam to me. You've now made about 120 edits. About 100 of them were for adding the link to thedraftreview to various articles, and 17 were used to write an article about that website's founder. Twice you removed information about Alec Kessler and his being buried in a dracula outfit. That's the only editing I can find that wasn't directly related to thedraftreview website. (although a link was added to that article as well) Plus, every time you added the link to an article's external links section, it was placed at the top. Your intentions may have been good, but your actions looked to be those of a classic spammer. I won't remove the link again, but I would ask that you try to contribute more than just links in the future. --Onorem♠Dil 12:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for catching the vandalism to my user page

I have put a vandalism-4 tag on 24.231.163.232's user page, so feel free to report him for blocking the next time this user is disruptive. Thanks again for the catch. TechBear (talk) 14:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Message from Sergei Reynolds

Hello Onorem,

This is Sergei Reynolds in Moscow. I just received a red flag from you for ungentlemanly conduct, it seems. However, while I am 100% guilty of your charges, perhaps you can tell me how to remove material that is 100% slanderous to my name? Although I am not directly alluded to in the discussion, given that it is my position they are referring to, the connection would not require a rocket scientist to make. I sincerely request that the changes stand as I made them, or I will be forced to take this matter to a higher playing field. I have no problem with people adding or subtracting facts from The Moscow News website as they see fit, but when the changes involve unjustified personal attacks then I think things have gone too far. Thank You. Sergei -Sergei Reynolds (talk) 21:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello Onorem, The comment I am referring to occurred in the discussion section, not the actual page, but since this site is accessible to the public, I believe that it is irresponsible to let libel stand. -Sergei Reynolds (talk) 21:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. --Onorem♠Dil 21:50, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Onorem, Thank you for your attention and solving into this matter. I appreciate the assistance.

Best regards, Sergei Reynolds -Sergei Reynolds (talk) 04:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

"Police" article

My mistake on placing the external link in the "See Also" section.

Can you suggest the proper way to include the reference?

JacksonBeard (talk) 22:43, 4 January 2008 (UTC)JacksonBeard

How is it being used as a reference? It's not an appropriate link per WP:EL if you're just trying to add the link. --Onorem♠Dil 22:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, used the wrong word...

Not a reference, rather a link.

I believe the link contains useful and relevant information related to the article topic "Police."

I originally posted the link under "External Links" and it stood for quite some time. I see that someone decided to remove "External Links" from the article, to whit "Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews."

The site listed is designed to encourage interviews with police officers by members of the public. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JacksonBeard (talk • contribs) 23:18, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

If you want to add it as an external link. I'd suggest that you start a discussion on the article's talk page. I'm guessing you'll have trouble getting a consensus to add it since it requires registration. --Onorem♠Dil 23:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

I appreciate the pointers and the links you sent.

JacksonBeard (talk) 23:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)Jackson Beard

Thanks

Thanks for noticing the misplaced comment on my user page. =) When I find those kinds of misplaced comments, I will often move the comment over to the user talk page with a <small></small> note that I moved it. I also leave a message on the originator's talk page to alert them about the move so they can learn where to leave messages. I did answer the editor. He seems to be a rather enthusiastic fan of his favorite band that needs a little help on creating new articles. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 02:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: I wouldn't worry too much about fixing it. The editor just got indefinitely blocked by another admin and then went out with a bang. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

thanx

thanx for looking over my user page as of resently. Its already on semi protection and keeps getting vandalised. Is there any way its protection can be increased. Let Me Know. YoursRealist2 (talk) 17:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

hey did you see this message?--Realist2 (talk) 16:00, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. Forgot to respond yesterday. I can't change the protection level on your page myself. You might be able to get them to fully protect it at requests for page protection, but I doubt it since it's only been vandalized about 6 times since September. You also wouldn't be able to edit it yourself if protection was increased. Seeing how quickly the vandals have been reverted, I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you. It looks like you've got a few quick editors ready to revert with your page on their watchlist. --Onorem♠Dil 16:06, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Hudson Hawk21

With respect, the reason those notices should remain in place on that sockpuppet's login, and the reason half a dozen editors reverted them back into place, is because their removal obfuscated the user's actions and vandalism, not least the fact of him vandalising editor's talk pages to make it look like the vandalism was carried out by an admin. If the notices stay in place, it helps the community to see what has been going on, rather than jump to the wrong conclusions and cause more rancor (obviously the sockpuppet's intention)--feline1 (talk) 20:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

If people care, they can check the history. Said as much on your talk before I saw that you'd left me a message. --Onorem♠Dil 20:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your understanding, support and adherence to WP:CONSENSUS, Onorem (From Hudson Hawk's talk page history today, you can see that about half a dozen editors have attempted to reinstate those notices, not least for the reasons I explained to you).--feline1 (talk) 21:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure you understand that policy... --Onorem♠Dil 21:16, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Fine, you can pop along to the talk pages of the 6 editors involved who had unimous opinions of the way to proceed (after having dealt with the vandal all day), and explain to us all why we were wrong and you alone are right :) --feline1 (talk) 21:21, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I shouldn't have to go to anyone's talk page. WP:USER makes it perfectly clear, and the issue has been brought to AN/I numerous times. Warnings can be removed. I don't care if 6 of you didn't know (or care about) that, but replacing them has been considered wrong in the past and people have been blocked for it.

Side Note: I'd prefer in the future, if I have need to use your talk page, that you don't remove my comments with an edit summary like you used today. --Onorem♠Dil 21:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Well I'd prefer you didn't slap blanket template warnings about 3RR on my talk page when I *wasn't* involved in an "edit war" (tidying up after vandals is not the same as edit warring) and the template hilariously has an admonition to "seek consensus" in it (when you were undoing the consensus of half a dozen other people trying to clear up that vandal's mess). But please, this really isn't worth arguing about - can't you see this is exactly the sort of strife that vandal was seeking to cause in the first place?? (unless Hudson Hawk21 is actually a secret 'letting off steam' vandalism sockpuppet you keep for occasionally ridding yourself of winter Monday blues...? lol ;-) --feline1 (talk) 21:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I shouldn't have used the template, but I knew the message would come out nicer that way after I'd been reverted twice for no good reason. Since you want to discuss consensus, consensus is that editors can remove warnings from their own talk page. 6 of you don't like that consensus with respect to this particular editor's page, but it's still the consensus on Wikipedia. And smiley face and lol or not, your joke isn't funny. --Onorem♠Dil 21:40, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

You are correct that this isn't worth arguing about, so feel free to disengage at any point. --Onorem♠Dil 21:42, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Re Australian Peach Squirrel

Hi. Just wanted to let you know that I agree with your edit summary, and I have gone on ahead and deleted accordingly. :/ --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Definitely works for me. Thanks. --Onorem♠Dil 13:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Finishing my move

Oops! Thanks. :D I guess I shouldn't "drive" while distracted. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:36, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Goosesbumps page

Onorem, the article that you keep deleting is written by an editor with specialist knowledge. Please do not delete it again. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonamatt (talk • contribs) 15:42, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Great. Now if you could just prove that before you add it, there'd be no problems. --Onorem♠Dil 15:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

It has been disputed in the talk thread, and the point still remains that the article is submitted by an editor with specialist knowledge. Further, the article is neutral. There is no reason to delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonamatt (talk • contribs) 15:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I will add a citation

-15:58, 10 January 2008 (UTC)~ Jonamatt

The point remains that consensus is against the addition, no proof has been provided regarding any type of specialist knowledge, and the text is nowhere near neutral. There are 3 reasons right there to delete it. --Onorem♠Dil 16:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the article has been cited, which does provide verification for its source. If you wish to purchase a copy of the anthology, you may do so. If you delete the article because you do not agree with the anthology, you delete the article because of your own point of view. I would like you to tell me what is not neutral. I can find nothing of that nature. If the people on the talk page dispute the same non-existent issues, then their argument is just as weak as yours. Thank you.