Talk:Anfield

I've rewritten this to apply just to the stadium, as all but one of the links to here refer to the stadium rather than the district. sjorford 10:04, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Spion Kop, Which Ground First?

What verifiable evidence do we have for the claim that the terrace "at Sheffield was named 'the Kop' first"? It's interesting, since some Arsenal fans contend that their old Manor Ground [1] was the first to have a Kop, albeit unofficially. Ste B 02:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

The Manor Ground built in 1904, a few years before the orignal Kop at Anfield (). Although the Arsenal one was built first, it was the huge earth bang at Anfield that reminded local journalist Ernast Edwards (The Liverpool ECHO) of the Spion Kop in South Africa. He often referred to The Kop in his articles this caught on with the fans and then eventually the club.

I can see how the confusion exists with the Manor Ground Kop being built a few years earlier but the Ernast Edwards story has always been the most widely accepted. It's also importent to remember the majority of men who died at The Battle of Spion Kop where from Lancashire regiments. (Liverpool was part of Lancashire at the time of the battle)

One last thing, the Anfield Kop wasn't like other 3 stands, it was a huge bank of earth, very simlier to the real Spion Kop.

82.42.24.92 03:56, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Pitch Dimensions

I was wondering whether anyone had a good source for pitch dimensions? I only ask ask the width has just been changed from 79 m to 69 m, without a reference. aLii 14:02, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Not sure !!!

• [2] = 110 x 75 yards
• [3] = 101 x 79 yards
• [4] = 101 m x 68m
• [5] = 111 x 74 yards

and I can't find anything on the official site !!! I guess its maybe worth a phone call to the ground !!!! DavidHumphreys^{SPEAK TO ME}ABOUT_{THE THINGS I MESSED UP} 14:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't the one who changed it, but I've just measured the width using Google Earth, and it seems that the 69m is more accurate. I don't know how accurate the measurement is; I'm not sure whether it counts as a source or original research. KeithD 16:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Lol! Personally I think it'd be good for someone to look it up on Football Manager. They know their stats... aLii 20:36, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Come on, come on, come on Surely this is a basic fact that someone here should know !!!!!! I don't, coz I don't really care !!! But, fact is fact and it should really be 100% accurate ... someone please get yer measuring tape out !!!

DavidHumphreys^{SPEAK TO ME}ABOUT_{THE THINGS I MESSED UP} 02:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I've just sent an email to the official site, see: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/archivedirs/news/2006/aug/17/N153191060817-1118.htm The chances are they'll actually put the answer on the website, making it verifiable. KeithD 18:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

And I've just found http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:goY7spMcmBkJ:www.liverpoolfc.tv/reducate/activities/anfield_measurements_internet.xls+anfield+pitch+dimensions+site:www.liverpoolfc.tv&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=opera is from the official site, and says 110x74 yards. It's part of a maths worksheet, but it's the best source we have, so I'll update the article accordingly. KeithD 18:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Quote: it is the home of Liverpool F.C - England's most successful club, having won the English Premier League 18 times and the European Champions' Club Cup a total of 5 times.

Incorrect. As far as I'm aware, Liverpool have never won the English Premier League. Pedantic, I know, but still. ^{The preceding comment contained scenes of a violent or sexual nature, and should not have been viewed by young children.} L.J.Skinner_WOT?|^CONTRIBS 17:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it is correct. Read the article. --Iriseyes 13:09, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup

Unfortunately, this article is in some disrepair. It needs a cleanup, so I tagged it.

--Iriseyes 13:09, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

This article is in serious need of some work. It's obviously been tapped away at by fans and is, in places, awful.

Kicking towards the Kop

It is stated that on "most occasions" Liverpool play towards the Kop in the second half. Is there any proof of this? I know that it is the home side's preference but surely it depends on who wins the toss and opposing teams would probably try to negate this supposed advantage. Therefore it should be roughly 50-50 unless someone has detailed statistics. Barfbagger 19:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

No proof but I'm a season ticket holder on The Kop and have been for many years. It's very rare that we kick away from the kop in the second half, probably happens around 5 times a season. As the players come out they take position at The Kop end of the field, as though they're going to be kicking away from The Kop. If the opposing captain wins the toss and chooses against our tradition, it's greeted by huge booing from us.

More often than not the opposing team when they win the toss will choose to attack The Kop in first half. This could be because they also wish to attack their fans in the second half, who are situated opposite The Kop. It could be for convenience, attacking the opposite end would mean all the players having to swap sides. It could just be them respecting our tradition. 77.97.106.78

I'll take your word for it. Unfortunately I no longer live close enough to have a season ticket. Although I have to take your supposition of "them respecting our tradition" with a large dose of salt. Barfbagger 21:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

new Interwiki

[[ru:Энфилд Роуд]]. Manecke 16:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

My Anfield Stadium Seating Outline

I created this. If it is found useful, I'll insert it in article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Anfield_Outline_df2k2.png

File:Anfield Outline df2k2.png —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Df2k2 (talk • contribs) 17:34, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

No Logo to prevent copyright conflicts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Liverpool_outline2_df2k2.png

File:Liverpool outline2 df2k2.png

If I edit the image I will increase the size of the stand names, but until then, I guess look at the 500px preview. :)

I like it, and something similar would definitely be useful for this page. My only slight worry is whether an image with the Liverpool badge can be used in such a way? Isn't it a copyrighted logo or something? Image:Liverpool FC logo.png seems to claim that it is. aLii 17:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Nice, fast work there! One final request, could you increase the size of the stand names somewhere in the region of 100-200%? Just so that they can be read easily at that 300px size. :) aLii 18:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Spion Kop, Lack of toilets

Why no mention of the habit of some kopites, on the old kop, of urinating down a rolled up newspaper often onto the legs of fellow supporters? (It has been said that the smell was quite repulsive)

History

With regards to the September 8 edit by the user Operating. I think, as Everton were the original tenants of Anfield, and the information was accurate, that it should be reverted to include that section. It certainly shouldn't be deemed vandalism. Moethesleaze 11:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

By all means mention Everton as the original tenants. That is one sentence. There was an essay about Everton and no mention of LFC, it shouldn't be restored. Operating 11:49, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

The page is about the ground - Anfield, not specifically its current tenants Liverpool. The problem with the paragraph was that it finished with the involvement of Everton and should have continued to the early history of LFC in the ground Moethesleaze 13:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Everton were tenants for a few years IIRC, and LFC for the next 90. The Everton years are notable, however there was too much content, much of it irrelevant and unecyclopedic and the article was unbalanced with no mention of the 90 years of LFC tenancy. The Everton content as it was needs copy editing down to the bare bones before restoring, something i'm not prepared to do. Operating 13:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Everton were the first tennantes at Anfield. That should be included in the article. I can't see any reason not to. Obviously, it's about Anfield Road, the stadium, but who uses it is important. I question the judgement to those who disagree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.48.62.17 (talk) 23:01, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup from vandalism

I think a revert back to September 1st approx is necessary after the recent vandalism. Comparing versions for instance reveals that the construction cost is missing from the most recent edit. Also the edit from "most successful club" to "one of the most successful clubs" has persisted. I don't think its in dispute that Liverpool are historically the most successful club, so surely the former should be used. Moethesleaze 16:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Needed Fix

Someone needs to fix the average attendances —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.2.250.189 (talk) 16:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Is the Anfield outline up-to-date?

With the recent creation/planned creation of a "Block 1892" (mentioned by Tom Hicks at one point, but I haven't got a source handy) for the more vocal fans/season ticket holders, does anyone know a) Has this plan actually happened? and b) was the relevant block actually renamed to Block 1892? If so, the outline ought to be amended to reflect this, IMO. Obviously, I can't do this as I'm not sure whether it happened, or which block was used —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenifh (talk • contribs) 21:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Notable external link?

Is anfield.com really notable enough to be included in the external links? You can count the most members online at once on one hand! Michael Wincott (talk) 17:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Removed link as total membership of forum is 7! Seems odd to link to something so low-key. Michael Wincott (talk) 19:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)