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January 14

Help with viewing history?

When i try to view a page's history, i don't see anything...Help, please! Maiq the liar (talk) 02:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How come? You don't see anything if you click here? -- Menti fisto 02:19, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How can I edit the Lady Elgin submission by Suofur?

I am a member of a committee which is raising funds to erect a monument to those affected by the Lady Elgin disaster on 8 September 1860. In May 2006 Sulfur added to Lady Elgin submission that a monument was erected in Calvary Cemetery (Milwaukee, WI)to the Lady Elgin victims. This is incorrect. I would like to remove this addition because it is misleading. Calvalry Cemetery did not erect any monument to the Lady Elgin victims. However, the family of a victim did engrave a message on the reverse side of the tombstone of their family member. The bronze sulculture that our committee is planning will be the first monument in Milwaukee to commenorate this disaster. I can photograph this inscription and submit if necessary.

Please give me instructions on how to edit the Lady Elgin submission.

M. B. Fallon (email removed for security) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.160.249.241 (talk) 05:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is about [1] (also mentioned in [2]) by User:Sulfur who last edited in September. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:43, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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how to find about different websites —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.29.222.67 (talk) 06:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you be more specific about what you want? Category:Websites shows some websites with articles here in Wikipedia, but the large majority of websites do not satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (web). PrimeHunter (talk) 07:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback

I can't remove vandalism without rollback. It's really hard. How do I get it? Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 08:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can request it here. -- Menti fisto 08:54, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

article history

Hi, I just created an article and came back to it several times until I felt it is correct. Now I find in the "history" or the "watch" sections the whole list of editing I did. Is-there a way to get rid of them and keep only one ? Thanks Fensexdir (talk) 09:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, there isn't a way to do that. Wikipedia keeps all history of all users all the time. It shouldn't be a problem for you though, when people search for that article they will only see the latest, most correct version. -- Menti fisto 09:53, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another time you can use preview more in order to make fewer saves. It is possible to oversight some revisions but it's only done in special circumstances which are probably not satisfied here. If your account had been the only with substantial edits then you could have requested deletion of the whole article with {{db-author}}, but not now. Wikipedia deliberately keeps the edit history for GFDL compliance and other reasons. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Admins and users selling their usernames & accounts.

Is this in accordance with Wikipedia policy?? If it is, I made a proposal here to change it. Zenwhat (talk) 09:54, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's surely a joke and I'm sure that such a thing would be against policy. Maybe you shouldn't worry so much. :-) -- Menti fisto 10:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another semi-protection request

Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego?: Characters and Sketches has been subject to vandalism. Please semi-protect this page. Socal gal at heart (talk) 10:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have forwarded your request to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:53, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

mother international school

about school forms —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.145.123 (talk) 10:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:57, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

rename user extension 210.211.246.167 (talk) 11:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC) tanvee

i have setup my own mediawiki and want to add the rename user extension.I have followed the usual steps for adding an extension but a blank pages opens if i use the Special pages link.Please let me know how to add this extension. 210.211.246.167 (talk) 11:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is the Helpdesk for questions concerning the usage of the English Wikipedia. You might want to direct your question to the maintainers of the software on which Wikipedia is run called MediaWiki. They have their own Help and Support page. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Company description + Band/artist description

Hi,

How do I add a description of my company/website to Wikipedia? I've attempted this in the past but the entry was put on hold/deleted. All other companies in my field have entries on Wikipedia so I guess it must be something that I am doing wrong?

Company website: [3]

In addition to a company entry I want to add a description of my band. Again, all previous attempts have been refused. However, other bands have entries.

Band website: [4]

Thanks in advance,

Stephen Parfitt —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephenparfitt (talk • contribs) 11:32, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Stephen. There are a couple of issues here. First, there's a problem with conflict of interest; article edits by individuals involved with the subject are strongly discouraged for potential problems with neutrality and original research. There is also a danger of excessive promotion, or at least the appearance of it. It's better to let somebody else write these articles, though you may request them at "requested articles".

That said, while such are discouraged, they are not actually disallowed. Without looking at the history of your deleted contributions, I would imagine that the articles have been deleted as failing to meet notability guidelines. The company article would need to assert notability per the notability guideline on organizations. The band would need to assert notability per the notability guideline on music related articles. In both cases, these require utilizing reliable sources to verify assertions of notability. Sources connected to the company and/or band may be used to add detail, but not to substantiate encyclopedic notability. If you choose to recreate the articles in spite of your personal involvement, you will want to be particularly careful to keep them within guidelines, since your editing of the articles will in itself be suspect.

You might want to take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. Please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup tag for manual-style sections?

I'm looking for a cleanup tag that could be applied to sections that read like a technical manual or a collection of technical information, like this. What's the best cleanup tag for this? -- Ddxc (talk) 12:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the list at WP:TC, I'd suggest maybe {{cleanup-jargon}} or {{technical}}. --ais523 13:57, 14 January 2008 (U T C)

I just added some sources for Bertrand Delanoë

but somehow, some of the text was deleted at the same time, about an assassination report. It shows up in my edit window, but it doesn't appear in the subsequent story. I'm not sure how I caused this problem, but the two parts don't match, and it makes Wikipedia look unfactual to mention that a former killer's on the loose just after the announcement that he's considering the presidency. Can anyone wander over there and check it out? Sorry, I don't usually make mistakes, but I don't know what to do. --Torchpratt (talk) 12:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is almost certainly because you made a typo in the <ref> tag; the tag should start with <ref> and end with </ref>. Missing off the closing tag, or making a typo in it, can cause all the text after that point until the next reference to end up inside the reference rather than the article, meaning that text ends up missing from the article. --ais523 13:53, 14 January 2008 (U T C)

I have fixed two closing refs.[5] PrimeHunter (talk) 14:12, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Semi Protect "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?: Characters and Sketches"

Can you please semi-protect Characters and sketches on Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego?? There was heavy vandalisim all over the place. And an unknown IP changed information to inaccurate information. Please protect this page forever so that IP users do not change information!! ACMEMan (talk) 13:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What a mess of an article. In the future, please do not conduct page moves to revert or stop vandalism. Instead, please report vandals to WP:AIV or WP:ANI. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 13:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection requests may be made at WP:RPP. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:57, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BotMachine (talk · contribs) has been blocked indefinitely as well, as a sock of TheInvisibleMachine (talk · contribs). The article is being kept on my watchlist, but the vandalism should cease. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 13:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BotMachine2` (talk · contribs) has now picked up the effort. Made a RPP request and asked for an immediate indef block of user. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 14:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked indef. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 14:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The "vandal" is changing some facts (which are not sourced so i don't know who's right) but he's also removing ridiculous things from the article like: "Oooooooooooooohhhh", "Mooooooooooooooreeeeeeee", "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh", "Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo". Did you discuss with him somewhere? By the way the article's name change doesn't seem necessary.--Yamanbaiia^{(free hugs!)} 14:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The bots have not been constructive and have been blocked indefinitely for a string of vandalism-sprees, and for being a sock of a blocked user. The page has now been semi-protected so the case is all but closed. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 14:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Using images

Hi,Am I allowed to use images from Flikr in Wikipedia articles?.Can I upload cigarette card images? Thanks Northmetpit (talk) 15:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on wether the images on Flickr are copyrighted by the photographer (The flickr page then usually shows: "All rights reserved"). The second problem is wether or not there is still copyright on the cigarette card images themselves. This is extremely likely, and that would make the photographs themselves a copyright violation. It is best if you handed us links to some of the images you would like to include. Than we can give better judgement on them. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:21, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It can also depend on which article it is and which purpose the image has there. See for example Wikipedia:Non-free content. And note there is a Wikipedia:Image copyright help desk. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As users have said above, it depends on the context and specific circumstances. If they are possibly free images, such as those in the public domain, please upload them to the Wikimedia Commons, rather than here. See as examples, Image:Jacob Schaefer, Sr.jpg, Image:Maurice Vignaux.jpg and Image:George Sutton.jpg, all three tobacco cards, and all of which I uploaded to the commons as in the public domain because of age.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Next page option

I strongly think we need a "next page" option on our encyclopedia pages -rather like a book where you can browse the encyclopedia from one article into the next in an A-Z. While the multi wiki links in the article connect to related topics one of the things I like when looking at a book encyclopedia is to read through one article into the next on different articles. It is quite a nuisance to have to keep looking up in the index all the time. Is there anyway this option could be made available even if it is only a user preference option and a small icon or arrow (mimicking a page turn over) or something in the top right hand corner?

For example in the top right hand corner of the page two arrows <- -> for page forward and page backwards in the encyclopedia article index.

I've brought this up at the council and have even asked Jimbo what he thinks but I feel there should be this option at least in a users preferences ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^Talk? 15:41, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really think this needs to be a new software feature. You can either keep Special:Allpages open in one tab and read articles in another tab in your browser, or you can see if someone at WikiProject User scripts could make a script that adds those links at the top. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 16:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

password

I forgot my password. Can you help?

David Harscheid —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.165.97 (talk) 16:41, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I trust your account is: User:David Harscheid. Did you supply an email address when you signed up? If you did, you can enter your username on this page and press the "email new password" button. Otherwise, I'm afraid you are out of luck, and you will have to register a new account under a new name. read more about loggin into Wikipedia --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:57, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fake information on image

What is the proper approach in dealing with an issue in which a user uploads an image with obviously fake information? The image in question is Image:Religious Persecution.jpg. The uploader claims that this is a TV screenshot, which it rather obviously is not. The explanation given is also made up. The issue of Islamic dress for female students is a major political hot issue in Turkey, and such an incident could not possibly have taken place and become public knowledge without creating a major commotion, lasting for weeks. In reality, no-one in Turkey ever heard of such a thing. --Lambiam 16:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Go to Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion and state your case. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 17:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

how do I add someone

how do I add someone to Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joyinbirthing (talk • contribs) 18:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Algebraist 18:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template for too big images

Isn't there a template to mark fair use images that are too big (too high resolution)? I can't seem to find it any more. --Apoc2400 (talk) 19:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are looking for {{non-free reduce}} --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pages are automatically being added to my watchlist

I do vandalism reversion and I find that from time to time pages are automatically being added to my watchlist. This includes pages that I just reverted vandalism on and the talk pages of users that I've warned. Is their anything I can do to prevent this from happening? Thanks.--Urban Rose 19:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Because you use Twinkle, the autoconfig is to add pages to your watch list. Therefore please access: User:Thehelpfulone/new.js and copy that javascript into your monobook, located at: User:Urban_Rose/monobook.js. Before you do so, remove the existing importScript('User:AzaToth/twinkle.js'); tag in the monobook. Once you have done this, clear the browser cache, and you are all set :). I hope this helps! The Helpful One ^(Talk)^{(Contributions) (Review Me!)} 19:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

what do i do

Dear sir/madam i would like to ask that,when i have signed in say if i am looking up a subject for school on wikipedia how do i go back to the page i was on without it signing me out because i created a new acount on this site on the 14 th of january 2008 (because i love it so much and it helps me with my school work) and i was looking up on God for rs at school (religious studies) and when i signed in i didn't know how i go back to the page i was on before, so i clicked on the back button and it took me back to the god page but i looked at the top of the page were it says log in and it only said log in insted of my nickname which i think you might have cinderella luvz ya it said log in again so i tryed loging back in again and going back but it still did the same again and i was getting anoyed beacuse i wanted to finish my homework off for school so if you know what to do can you please send me something or even a message back telling me what to do so thanks anyway for your help if you get back to me. p.s. if i have anyhomework and i need to find out anything i allways come onto wiki[pedia because i think you are a fab and great website to go on if you are looking for anything and i think it is that good that i would recomend it to lots and lots of people. YOU ARE THE BEST SEARCHING WEBSITE EVER AND I MEAN IT TO. thanks again, hope you write back to me telling me what to do yours sincelery lauren amanda daly AKA cinderella luvz yaCinderella luvz ya (talk) 19:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your best chance to find the pages you were viewing earlier is to look at your browser history, accessible from the menu of your browser. Once you find a page that you will need again, you can click the "watch" tab at the top of the article to place it on your watchlist. —Travis ^talk 19:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is your problem that you cannot find the page you were on, or that you cannot remain logged in? If it's the latter then see Help:Logging in. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:16, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you log in and then click the "Back" button in your browser to return to the page you were viewing before you logged in, your browser will probably not reload the page from Wikipedia's servers, but merely show you its locally cached version of the page, which will still show you as not being logged in (in the upper right corner). However, you should actually be logged in at that point, so you should reload the page you were viewing (in the Mozilla Firefox browser, you would press Ctrl-R, or select View | Reload; in other browsers, there should be similar reload commands). When you reload the page you went back to with the "Back" button, it should show that you are logged in. And yes, Wikipedia is great. --Teratornis (talk) 03:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

how do I add my info to your site

I was in your site as duffen cory, for 2 years- I tried to do what you asked it was tagged with a clean up note so i clean it up but the tag never went away and now your site has deleted my page even after I asked for peer review ( your request) and after I did an edit

Encyclopedic content was verifiable. by and through isbin's and the fact that i was the subject matter of the content of David Hockneys work

so now perhaps I have to start from scratch and follow your protocol

and I have no idea how to start, it seems like a lot of people are

fighting on this site, and its not too harmonious, this alone send the wrong message

I thought posting here was for historic reasons ( thats what I did ) and now im reading

all sort of erroneous information and just on the cusp of rudeness in statements and reply's

whats that all about- I thought it was fun to be here.

Thank you- duffen cory

duffen@rcn.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Duffen (talk • contribs) 19:41, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at the deleted article and in my opinion it was not properly deleted under WP:CSD#A7, which was the stated basis. I suggest you contact the deleting administrator at his or her talk page which is here. The deletion log entry is here. If that is not fruitful, you have the option of taking the article to a deletion review for a second opinion. However, please understand that while I am saying I do not agree with the stated basis for speedily deleting the article, i.e., as having no assertion of importance, I am not at all sure that it shouldn't be deleted as insufficiently notable on the merits; that is, deleted after debate and consensus at articles for deletion, where the article is likely to be taken if it is undeleted. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:38, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the article was Duffen Cory – is that you? Forgive the repetition but it's as Thehelpfulone said above. If I'm wrong and you wrote an article about David Hockney, there already is one. If you have a contribution to make, you might like to hook up with that one. If not, then I've lost the plot. But persevere 'cos your stay at wikipedia can be a happy one. Julia Rossi (talk) 10:08, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with Rifle Cartridges and Calibers

Whoever writes for the 30 Caliber cartridges is giving false information and it is creating a problem with my business. I represent a reloading/bullet company and many people who are not very knowledgeable look to your site for some beginning advice. In particular the person who keeps writing the articles says that a .308in diameter bullet is equal to 7.8 millimeters but then turns around and gives the military designations of 7.62 mill. (Example: the .308 Winchester is a 7.8millimeter diameter bullet designated as the 7.62 by 51 for the military) I have heard of 3 people buying 7.8 millimeter bullets because of this site and in turn the bullet is too big and is either destroying their weapons or injuring them. Not only is 7.62 smaller than 7.8 but it is also a completely different designation. It is necessary for you to have that person change that information. I had done it once before but he/she changed it back and it is now your responsibility. Have your person do their homework. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.178.103.32 (talk) 19:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There does happen to be a discrepancy between the diameters listed at .308 Winchester and 7.62x51mm NATO. For what it’s worth, .308 in = 7.8232mm, so the 7.62x51 article has the correct bullet diameter. However, as I’m sure you know, the bullet diameter of any given cartridge is likely to be at least slightly different than the caliber, .357 Magnum vs. .38 Special, for example. In any case, under no circumstances should anyone rely on Wikipedia to contain accurate reloading information. A proper reloading manual should be consulted before attempting to handload any ammunition. —Travis^talk 20:02, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- .308 Winchester updated to show correct bullet diameter. —Travis ^talk 20:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template Help

I'm interested in creating a template for WPMILHIST that compines an infobox in the upper right corner of a page, and a navbox at the bottom. Is there a way to code them so they can both be in the same template, or would I have to make them separate? bahamut0013 ♠♣ 20:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Without including the entire article text as a parameter to the template, I see no way of doing it as one template. Sorry, it'll have to be two. Besides, it'll be easier to comprehend as two. :) Stwalkerster [ talk ] 20:26, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Messages

Hey guys. For some reason every page I visit has the banner saying "You have new messages (last change)." (even this edit page). I have clicked both numerous times yet it still appears. The last edit to my Talk Page was at 08:09. Any clues as to what's going on with this and how to fix it? Thanks! Deflagro ^C/_T 21:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As soon as I posted that, it went away. A few minutes ago I got the error that the slave servers were having to catch up. Maybe that's why it was displaying that. Thanks anyway! Deflagro ^C/_T 21:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How to find facts on Hermes

How would you find Greek Mythology on Hermes for a report? Kayla Simmons —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.136.203.91 (talk) 22:43, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you type Hermes into the search box in the menu on the left-hand side of your page, you get directed to Hermes which should give you all the information you need. There's also some more information at Greek mythology - just click on the link here or in the opening paragraph of the Hermes article. Euryalus (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lost my talk page

I am technologically challenged. I started out trying to archieve a talk page and somehow ended up losing my talk completely. There is some sort of "redirect" and I have read all these long pages to try to help myself and my brain has gone into shut-down mode. I can write text, but I cannot understand how to do things on wiki. Can anyone please help? I don't think "directions" will help, so maybe someone can just do it for me? Thanks. User:A_Kiwi Spotted Owl (talk) 23:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See, my talk page now redirects to a topic page - just click to understand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:A_Kiwi Any help will be appreciated. There is a Russbot that has been (apparently) following me around as I look at my watchlist, but it hasn't helped. Spotted Owl (talk) 23:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think you created a page at [talk:A Kiwi/archieve 1] - however, your archive should be created at User talk:A Kiwi/Archive 1. Please see Help:Linking and Help:Namespace for more information. I will go ahead and fix it for you. NF24^{(radio me!)} 23:49, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How to upload new version for some SVG images?

I've created new versions of some graphics on the Display_resolutions and Aspect_ratio_(image) pages, so that style and color codification is more coherent. But I am only able to upload a new version for the following image:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vector_Video_Standards2.svg

In the following images, I am unable to find the option to "Upload a new version of this file", even if other people obviously did upload new versions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:WideScreenFormats_Breitbildformate.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aspect_ratio_-_16x9.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aspect_ratio_-_3x2.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aspect_ratio_-_4x3.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aspect_Ratios_and_Resolutions.svg

What am I doing wrong?

Jjalocha (talk) 23:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there! The thing with those images is that they're not actually hosted on Wikipedia; at least, they're not on this website. Instead, they're hosted at Wikimedia Commons, which is a sister site (the same copyright rules and all apply). If you create an account there, you should be able to upload the images. For example, the 16x9 aspect ratio image can be found here. Hope that helps! Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 23:35, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, MoP, that's exactly what I needed! Works perfect. Jjalocha (talk) 12:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

January 15

my blocked ip

hi i noticed my ip address was blocked from editing again. I dont have anything against this as my brothers friends like vandalising wikipedia. That is why i created my own name. But i Have one question could the admins block me because of people on my ip like to vandalise? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuxthepenguin933 (talk • contribs) 00:39, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This could happen automatically: see WP:autoblock. Other than that, unless you reveal it, there's no way of linking your ip address to your account, so you won't get any non-automatic blocks. Algebraist 00:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry

Just a sort of factual question. Does the English WP use British or American spellings in articles? Or is there any consensus?Wikilost (talk) 00:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! At the moment, no, not any consensus; generally, go along with what dialect is already established in the article; also, if the dialect is about a geographical location, try to use the dialect corresponding with that location (for example, British English for Britain, Canadian English for Vancouver, etc.). See Wikipedia:Spellchecking, and here for more information. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 00:55, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Mainly, it depends on the subject of the article. If the subject is American or from somewhere else American spellings are prevalent, American spellings are used. Otherwise, British spelling is used. —Travis^talk 00:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- And if the topic has no inherent geographic nature, then it's simply based on who created the article (which is why we get these lame edit wars when cranky Americans want to change the name of the article Orange (colour), which was begun by an English speller). See WP:ENGVAR for more on this topic. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:37, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If we take the view that computers exist to serve humans, rather than the other way around, then obviously a well-designed World Wide Web would adapt itself to the user's preferences, rather than requiring the user to adapt him/herself to one fixed state of the system. MediaWiki already has the capacity to localize (localise) to various languages; an obvious future improvement would be to localize/ise to variants of a given language. English is not the only language with this problem. If the edit wars resulting from deficiencies in our software are "lame," then the software deficiencies that predictably generate the edit wars are equally lame. Humans are diverse, and that diversity includes lots of lameness, so software design must account for human limitations. This is the basis of the field of ergonomics, to design for real imperfect humans, rather than imaginary superhumans. --Teratornis (talk) 19:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Posting Multiple Photos

This is my first attempt to post anything on Wikipedia.

I grew up in the subject Frank Lloyd Wright designed Edward Serlin house, watching it being built and even meeting Mr. Wright several times. I then listened as the story of the house was told time and time again to various architectural students and historians.

I have recently recovered a trove of old photos, some taken by my father and some by me (some with Mr. Wright in them) that were lost for several decades. I am sure these will be fascinating to fans of the Frank Lloyd Wright Usonian Home and want to post several of them. Is this possible? I seem to be over-writing each previous posting when I try a new one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by David Serlin (talk • contribs) 00:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. We have an easy to use upload form at Wikipedia:Upload and you can see Wikipedia:Images for information in general about images. There is also Wikipedia:Uploading images if you need help with the upload process. I also see that you're having trouble posting multiple images - be sure that you are giving a different filename for each one. Come back here if you're still having trouble. NF24^{(radio me!)} 01:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

what is gish and fish technlogy? how is it used?

can you explain the principle behind the fish and gish technology? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.7.20 (talk) 00:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Thanks for using the Help Desk; however, please only ask questions about using Wikipedia here. If you'd like to ask a question about specific knowledge, please try the reference desk. Thank you, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 00:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Auto-archive bots.

Hi. I've read that there are three bots which auto-archive talkpages: MiszaBot, ClueBot III, and MercuryBot. What are the differences between them? Which one is best? In other words, which one is prone to the least errors and stays up the most often? ☯ Zenwhat (talk) 01:39, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I, for one, was hoping that someone with more experience with the three bots you listed would respond. All I can say is that I employ MiszaBot III to archive my talk page and, for the most part, I’m satisfied. I don’t have any experience with the other two, however. —Travis ^talk 03:55, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jimbo uses MiszaBot III. • Anakin ^{(contribs • complaints)} 15:00, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the logical fallacy Argumentum ad Jimbonem. ☯ Zenwhat (talk) 20:22, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

site doesn't always recognize logged-in contributor

It has happened more than once that I have logged in, made changes or major edits, checked previews, fine-tuned my contribution, only to have a BOT revert all my work and accuse me of vandalism. I don't appreciate this; I am a highly-trained professional of many years' experience and my time actually is valuable. I took on the rewriting (nothing less will do) of two major articles, with several minor articles as offshoots, which require much research and correlation of information. To have almost an hour and a half of work undone is not acceptable. There is a glitch in your program. And it takes time to hunt through various pages to contact Wikipedia. YOU really have to simplify this.Freiherrin (talk) 06:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on your talk. – Luna Santin (talk) 07:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Threads or agreement etiquette?

I read somwhere that the colon used to indent a comment is meant to mean something, such as, if they are the same indent it's in agreement, and is a thread thing. I thought it was to distinguish one comment from one above in a section of talk (as in desk answers) so the number is not important. Now I'm curious – what's the wiki style? Julia Rossi (talk) 06:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some discussions might be broken up into rough sections (formally or informally) -- requests for adminship subpages tend to be divided into support, oppose, and neutral comments, for example. Speaking generally, though, I'm not aware of any sorting method of that nature. The general idea as I understand it is that we'll end up with threaded discussion: someone replying to me would use ::, people replying to those comments would use :::, and :::: to reply to those replies. In practice, of course, it rarely works so perfectly -- I suspect everybody has their own ideas of what exactly the indents should be used for. There are usually better things to worry about. ;) – Luna Santin (talk) 07:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All cool then, many thanks. Julia Rossi (talk) 09:47, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The one time when a comment may have less indentation than one it's replying to is when the person chooses to "de-indent" on purpose, usually because the comment "cascade" has gone so far that it is likely to be pushing up against the right edge of some people's screens, resulting in hard-to-read text. At that point, they may choose to drop back to somewhere between 0 and 2 colons again. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 03:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Extra pages on user page

Is it allow to build extra pages on user page for weeks and months as it get googlelised, like on this one ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Simon_D_M

Thank you --Agenor 77 (talk) 08:15, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User sub-pages are certainly allowed (and are encouraged for things like Archives). The sub-pages need to follow the same rules as the main User page. Those rules are described here.—Noah 08:46, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Most wanted Accused in Gujarat

I want to get Gujarat's Most Wanted List also those Accused who are absconding in diffrent Case —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.225.156.67 (talk) 09:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings this section is for answering questions on how to use wikipedia (see bi-iig red banner at the top of this page). Try putting some of your topics in the search box top left side of page. Julia Rossi (talk) 09:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

mgt501 question:

The “One-On-One Selection Interview” is irremediably flawed because

it offers too much scope for the exercise of prejudice and favoritism. a) To what extent do you agree with this statement? b) Discuss alternatives to one-on-one selection process. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.107.137.21 (talk) 09:41, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See what wikipedia is not in intro box, and we don't answer assignment questions. (edit add: this section is about using wikipedia in case you need to know.)Cheers, Julia Rossi (talk) 09:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changing a headline

Dear... Is it possible to alter a "headline"? I've just altered information about a danish company, that is now called "NNE Pharmaplan" instead of Novo Nordisk Engineering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.73.54.255 (talk) 12:08, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pages are renamed by moving them to new target names. This procedure preserves the page's edit history. If your account and it is at least four days old, you can move a page yourself; go to the article and click on the move tab at the top (near the history and watch tabs). You can then specify a new name for the article. The old page name will automatically become a redirect to the new page. However, if the desired target page name already exists, you will need an administrator to move the page for you, which can be requested at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:25, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

reliable sources and quotations...

Hello, I'm new here... I built a new page for Giacomo Marramao, a professor of mine who asked me to do it but the page has not yet been "wikified": there are 2 warning notes saying that the article does not quote reliable sources and that there are no internal links. How can I do it? My professor gave me his bibliography, complete with ISBN codes, and I copied onto the page, thinking there were all the necessary information needed by Wikipedia. But it seems it is not so! Please help me! Thanks

Dreammy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.167.199.170 (talk) 13:07, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. The templates placed on the article Giacomo Marramao both contain links to pages that will help you figure out how to do it. (Links show up as colored text.) The guidelines in the first template of note are Wikipedia:Manual of Style, Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context and Wikipedia:Build the web. Those three documents will give you some advice on organizing your article and on determining what terms in your article might need to be wikilinked to other articles. Wikilinks connect articles inside Wikipedia and exist so that a reader of your article who wants to know more about an important point can easily find out more by clicking on the word. As far as sources are concerned, the guidelines are Wikipedia:Citing sources, Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. I can't quite tell but assume that bibliography refers to books that the professor has written. The article needs sources for his biographical information. Can you provide reliable sources to verify both that he did this (At the beginning of the 1980s he was co-founder of influent magazines like "Laboratorio politico" and "Il Centauro".) for instance, and that the magazines are influential? Those are the sorts of things being requested. Hope this helps. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since this person asked you to write the page, I would recommend reading over WP:COI as well to familiarize yourself with any potential conflicts of interest that could arise from your working on that page. I don't think editing on its own is an issue since your affiliation is not entirely direct but it is a bit of a gray area.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 14:26, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quick Question

Resolved

I noticed that when viewing the page history of a protected page the rollback button remains in place (whereas the undo button does not appear), I assume if I click it that I'll just go to a screen saying something like "action restricted to admins" but have no real way of testing this without potentially misusing the tool. So I was just wondering if someone with greater knowledge of how things work could confirm it for me (there is no mention of protected pages at either Wikipedia:Rollback policy or Wikipedia:Rollback feature). Regards, [[Guest9999 (talk) 14:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)]][reply]

No rollback feature enables an edit that would normally be prevented based on the user's permissions. So long as you are not an admin, the rollback feature should not work through page protection, and it should work trough semi-protection so long as you meet the criteria for editing the page.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 14:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the quick (and informative) response. [[Guest9999 (talk) 14:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC)]][reply]

Anytime. A rollback is basically just a shortcut that takes away the manual need to provide input by clicking save/etc. Otherwise its just a normal edit.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 16:02, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Checking if my edits were reverted

How can I find out which of my edits over the last couple of years has been reverted? Not just so I can contest them, but also know if I did something wrong. ----Seans Potato Business 15:55, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You may go to the page and check its edit history. Also, the page may have been added to your watch list (see the set of links on the upper-right of each page). If it is not on your watchlist and you cannot find it, check your user contributions (also linked above) for a link to the edit.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 16:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have a lot of contributions. I don't know an automated way to search for edits that were reverted. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:35, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would find such a tool useful, but there are people that I wouldn't trust with such a tool. Bovlb (talk) 19:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fortunately, we don't have to trust anyone on Wikipedia, other than Jimbo Wales who has the final say. There is the somewhat similar WikiBlame tool; that suggests it should be possible to write a tool that track the eventual fate of all our edits. I think it would be useful as a learning tool, for example when a new user writes something "unwiki" and other users come along later and wikify it. If the new user is not aware of what other people did to his or her work, then he or she is likely to edit something else which will require just as much cleanup. It would also be interesting to know, along with our raw edit counts, how many surviving edits we have made. --Teratornis (talk) 17:32, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

page not showing

Resolved

I created a page a couple of days ago and yet it is still not showing in the search.

Will it show up later?

regards

Gandhilove —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gandhilove (talk • contribs) 16:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You created a user page, rather than an article. A user page's purpose is to describe a user, and is linked to their signature; however, they do not show up in the search unless the User: prefix is used. See Wikipedia:What is an article? for more information. You can move the page into the article namespace by clicking on 'move' on the top of the page to remove the User: prefix from it, as long as your account is at least 4 days old; however, check that the page meets verifiability and notability guidelines before doing so. Hope that helps! --ais523 16:07, 15 January 2008 (U T C)

Your user page User:Gandhilove has not been indexed by Wikipedia search yet so it doesn't show up in user space searches either. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notability seems to be established, so I have gone ahead and moved the article for you to Glenn Harrold. It still needs quite a bit of work to be a bit more neutral though.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 16:49, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

same name

We need help on a name question. Currently, under the listing for "The Voltaires" you have a U.K.-based band listed that formed in 2004. We would like to list our U.S. band, also "The Voltaires" in that listing, or in a different listing of its own. Our band formed in 2001; we have a CD ["all about her"] that came out in 2003, and we can be found on the website www.thevoltaires.com. What do you suggest we do? We don't really have a problem with the existing listing, but we certainly want to be included in Wikipedia. Thanks for your help!

17:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Please read WP:BAND and WP:COI before creating an article on your band. If you decide to create one, I guess the obvious thing to do is to create it at The Voltaires (US band) and put a 'see also' link (created by {{otheruses4}} for example) at the top of The Voltaires. Perhaps The Voltaires should be moved to The Voltaires (UK band) as well, but that can wait until we see if you article avoids immediate deletion (the fate of so many new articles). Good luck! Algebraist 18:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(EDIT CONFLICT)You could list the band at The Voltaires (US band) or something to that extent and put a disambig on the current page. However, I urge you to consider these things first. Please read over WP:COI as it is generally not acceptable to have someone write about a person/organization/band/company/etc if it is them, or if they are directly associated with it. If the band meets wikipedia's music notability criteria (and at first glance it looks like it does) you could request that someone else make the article at Requested Articles or Articles for Creation. Each one of these pages has its own policies and practices noted at the top so make sure to read each one and decide which one fits your situation best. --Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 18:11, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is this vandalism?

A user, not participating in any content discussion, notices a dispute bordering on editwarring and performs a massive revert, part of which cannot be undone because of WP:3RR, but for a large part destroying perfectly good edits that are not in dispute. Can/should this be considered some form of vandalism? He refuses to replace this massive edit with separate edits and leaves. How should we proceed? Regards, Guido den Broeder (talk) 19:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While it may be in bad form, and be extremely lazy, it is not vandalism, though there are other ways to deal with the problem. I would strongly suggest an RfC on the article right NOW before the problem gets any worse.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 19:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Does RfC not require that both sides first try to solve the issues themselves? What if one side does not wish to attempt this? Guido den Broeder (talk) 19:35, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are aware that 3RR only applies to 3 reverts within a 24 hour period? Arthena^(talk) 19:47, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfC requires that an outreach has been attempted. If you try to get the other party to listen to your side of things and they don't bother, oh well. An RfC will still bring people to the page to develop consensus one way or the other and that article looks like it needs it bad.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 19:49, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There used to be more editors on this article, but they have given up. If the RfC does not help, I'll probably resign as well and let the pov-pushers have their way. Guido den Broeder (talk) 10:12, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand how WP:3RR prevents changes from being undone. If it's the right thing to do, then someone else will do it. Wikipedia has no deadline. Bovlb (talk) 20:04, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It does because a someone else does not show up. Nobody has responded to the RfC either so far. The point, however, is that since this massive revert other edits have been made, so technically a revert is simply no longer possible.

@Arthena: 3RR is not a free pass to make three reverts every 24 hours. Guido den Broeder (talk) 10:05, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I did not suggest making three reverts every 24 hours. Since you wrote that he left (i.e. not coming back), it sounded like only one revert might be needed. But it seems I don't really understand the situation. Arthena^(talk) 11:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A revert now would destroy numerous later edits. Guido den Broeder (talk) 14:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help on Userpage?

Hey there,

Can someone help me on the bottom of my userpage? It's mainly cut and paste, and I'm not too great of a coder. I just want my userboxes spread out into the large, blank space at the bottom right of the page along with where they currently are.

Thanks,

Perfect Proposal ^{Speak Out!} 19:41, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that part of the problem is < div > tags not being closed properly. For the userboxes, you can just remove the userbox top/bottom that surrounds them, and then put several on a line together (maybe 3 to a line). Then there needs to be some fiddling with tags and table markup to stop it going off the end of the page. Hang on, I'll have another look...--Kateshort forbob 22:37, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On second thoughts, it may be easier to put the userboxes into a table, which is how I display my own. I've created a temp copy of your userpage here (hope you don't mind). All the code is the same, except I've removed some of what I think is table markup, which was making a few things sit funny, and put the userboxes into a table, which seems to be spreading them out a bit. Did you want them just on the right hand side of the page or all across? If it's not what you were looking for, let me know or ask here - I'm by no means an expert, and I'm sure lots of people here could sort you out! --Kateshort forbob 00:16, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Searching for an Article

I created an article 5 days ago and its still not showing up in the search.

Thanks

Motocross14906 (talk) 20:08, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you could tell us the article, and the search string you're using. Bovlb (talk) 20:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Probably the Honda CRF150R and Honda CRF150F. It usually takes at least a week Motocross, and sometimes as much as 2 or 4 weeks. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:04, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How long does it normally take...

When you write an article on Wikipedia, notwithstanding notability and verification processes, ow long does it normally take to start seeing that article appear when you type in the name on engines like Yahoo Search or Google? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.186.177.108 (talk) 20:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As long as those search engines need to re-index Wikipedia. It could be anything from a few minutes to a few months. Stwalkerster [ talk ] 20:45, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do know that deleted articles generally exit the Google cache after a bit over a week, so the same timeframe would probably be reasonable for new articles as well. --tjstrf talk 20:49, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This question comes up from time to time, and it generally takes a couple of days to show up on the internal search engine but probably about six or seven days to appear on Google. NF24^{(radio me!)} 20:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One way to test Google's indexing delay empirically is to scroll back through your Special:Contributions and search Wikipedia with Google for phrases you added. Your most recent addition that Google currently finds would indicate an upper bound on Google's indexing delay at that moment. --Teratornis (talk) 17:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I tried this and found one of my edits from January 11, but the Google search does not find one of my edits from January 12 yet. Thus the Google indexing delay appears to be around 5 days right now. --Teratornis (talk) 17:24, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

new article

How do I begin writing an article about a new subject that is not on wikipedia?

Thank You Very Much

Holmesj3 (talk) 22:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)JMH[reply]

putting stuff onto ipod using wikipedia

how do you put all the stuff wikipedia talks aboout onto your ipod? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.2.182.90 (talk) 22:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you can't put the text on the iPod (unless you intend to view it on another computer and are using your iPod as an external hard drive) but some articles have spoken versions (see Wikipedia:Audio) but you will have to convert the ogg file into an AAC or another iPod-friendly file. (See the Computing reference desk if you need help with that). Good luck! NF24^{(radio me!)} 23:03, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strange Page with Ampersand in Title

I did some work on the article for the band Jason & the Scorchers.

The incoming link Google returns is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_&_the_Scorchers (I got it with http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=jason+%26+the+scorchers&btnG=Search)

But the page that gets edited when I work on it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_%26_The_Scorchers

I am never able to edit the page that the link from Google takes me to, and it doesn't seem to pull up the info on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_%26_The_Scorchers.

Any ideas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.171.197.29 (talk) 22:40, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there and welcome to the Help Desk! Now, about this issue; if you look closely, you'll notice that the difference between the two articles is that the 't' in 'the' is capitalized. Now, you'll always end up at Jason & The Scorchers because Jason & the Scorchers (note the capitalization) is a redirect page; you can view it here. Essentially, redirect pages try to remedy common spelling mistakes (for example, Barak Obama is a redirect to Barack Obama). Hope that helps, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 22:47, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are two issues. One is the redirect Master of Puppets just explained. The other is that the ampersand is represented by the string %26 in the actual web page address. If you click the "edit" button directly from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_&_the_Scorchers, it takes you to http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jason_%26_The_Scorchers&action=edit, but when you save the edit, it shows up in the correct article (I know, I just tried it). If you go to that article from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_&_the_Scorchers link again, you'll see the change. I'm not sure why you aren't getting your edits to work; from your contributions, it looks like you haven't edited an article since August 2007. Please try again, and let us know here if your edits are still not showing up. --barneca (talk) 22:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I understand what you are saying but it still seems like something is a bit off. If you copy and paste the url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_&_the_Scorchers into the address bar of your browser, you get something different than if you browse to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_%26_the_Scorchers. This is also what happens if you browse from the link on the results page in Google here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=jason+and+the+scorchers&btnG=Google+Search The page that comes up from using the link from the google results is the page that can't be changed via the edit button. That is the one with the old info that I'm trying to get to go away in lieu of the updated version. --68.63.20.124 (talk) 05:09, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's the same page with the URL written in two different ways. One of them has converted & to %26 per Help:URL#URLs in external links. They look the same to me and clicking the "history" tab at the top shows they have the same edit history. Maybe your browser has cached an older copy of the page for one of the url's. This will probably result in different times at the bottom of the window where it says "This page was last modified ...". Try bypassing your cache on both url's and say whether the same content is displayed. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it is a cache issue. I have cleared them and tried on two different computers in both IE and Firefox. Did you follow the link from the google search results? If so did it display the page with the infobox and contents box? If it did then that is the correct page that I made edits to. The one I get when browsing from the google search results does not contain these items, it is still the old pre-changed page. If you search and go the page from within wikipedia you get the correct updated page. Something very strange due to that ampersand I believe. --68.63.20.124 (talk) 05:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see the infobox in both cases. There are some ISPs which sometimes cache pages before the page gets to the customer. If you have such an ISP then you cannot bypass the cache and will get an old version until the ISP updates it. Can you try another ISP? Did you try clicking history on the two pages? The latest edit currently has edit summary "(Undid revision 184589954 by Barneca (talk) test done)" and is from January 15 or 16 depending on your time zone. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, well maybe it is just me then. If you are seeing the correct page both ways then maybe it is some kind of ISP caching on my end. The history tab on both pages takes me to the same place (showing the Barneca revision last). But I figured that was because the ampersand gets URL encoded when clicking that link. As long as people are able to arrive at the updated content that is what matters most. I'll check back in a couple of days and see if the pages display correctly for me. --68.63.20.124 (talk) 06:10, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I too see the page correctly at both addresses, and have an edit button at both, and did yesterday too. I didn't know the problem PrimeHunter describes even existed, but it seems a reasonable explanation to me. --barneca (talk) 13:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a place I can turn to when another editor accuse me of violating wiki policies?

Seems silly to bring this to arbitration. Is there a resource that review if a section violates any wiki policies? I brought it up in the talk pages but it wasn't resolved. The problem I have is if I am indeed violating WP:SPS, NOR, NOT#PUBLISHER, NOT#FAQ, NOT#CBALL and others all in one short section, then I really need to educate myself better before I do anymore edits. I have read and believe I fully understood those policies. Can you more experienced editors shed some lights on this? Here's the section in Mean Time Between Failures

MTBF is not to be confused with life expectancy. MTBF is an indication of reliability. A device with a MTBF of 100,000 hours is more reliable than one with a MTBF of 50,000. However this does not mean the 100,000 hours MTBF device will last twice as long as the 50,000 MTBF device. How long the device will last is entirely dependent on its life expectancy. An 100,000 MTBF device can have a life expectancy of 2 years while a 50,000 MTBF device can have a life expectancy of 5 years yet the device that's expected to break down after 2 years is still considered more reliable than the 5 years one. Using the 100,000 MTBF device as an example and putting MTBF together with life expectancy, it means the device should on average fail once every 100,000 hours provided it is replaced every 2 years. Another way to look at this is, if there are 100,000 units of this device and all of them are in use at the same time and any failed device is put back in working order immediately after the failure, then 1 unit is expected to fail every hour (due to MTBF factor).

The source I used was from a course reading material from Carnigie Mellon University.

http://www.ece.cmu.edu/~ganger/ece546.spring01/readings.html

http://www.ece.cmu.edu/~ganger/ece546.spring01/papers/mtbf.description

NYCDA (talk) 22:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can't comment on the subject (well, I could, but not coherently), but I can see why some editors may be concerned with the source, which looks like it was originally from a FAQ newsgroup message, which is, I suppose, technically self-published. I read once that newsgroup postings aren't supposed to be used for verification, but I can't find where. I'm not sure where crystall-ball gazing is, unless it's referring to the discussion of life expectancy. I do think that the passage needs some editing: the sentence beginning "Another way to look at this is" could maybe be re-written.

As for arbitration, as far as I know, that really is the last step. I see that there's already been a request for comment initiated by yourself in December with discussion by 3 or 4 editors, but I'm not sure how many (any?) of them were previously uninvolved in the dispute. I note from a quick skim that several of those editors disagreed with you. Is there a related Wikiproject where you could request outside views? As the disagreement seems to focus on a source, you could try the reliable sources noticeboard for guidance or even mediation. ArbCom seems unnecessarily tortuous for anything but the most serious disputes, and I'm not sure a request would be accepted without going through these steps.

By the way, I assume you're talking about the article Mean time between failures (different capitalisation). Mean Time Between Failures is a redirect pointing, oddly, to Failure rate.--Kateshort forbob 00:42, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not any more it isn't (that was a relic of a period when Mean time between failures was a redirect, btw). Algebraist 08:16, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know about using Usenet FAQs as reference which is why I have made many attempts to find other sources. But my understanding of NOT#FAQ is the wiki is not to be written as a FAQ, not FAQ can't be used as a source. NOT#PUBLISHER = wiki is not a place for publishing your works which I believe I did not do. WP:SPS, it's pretty obvious I didn't published the Usenet FAQ so I don't see how this is self-published-source and as for WP:NOR, if the wiki is in line with it's reference material, it's can't violate NOR right? This is where my problem is, do I have a wrong understanding of those policies? NYCDA (talk) 16:42, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit: No editors have raised any concern with the source. As far as I know, I'm the only one with any concern with using Usenet FAQ as source. NYCDA (talk) 16:44, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

SeeWP:SOURCE. It explains what a verifiable source is and why a usenet FAQ is not a reliable source. Its a self published source that is not subject to any scrutiny. Anyone could create and publish such a source with little to know factual basis and pass it off as correct. For the specific section I am referring too see WP:SPS--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 16:48, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I already said I know about using Usenet FAQs as a source. There are other sources but the FAQ sums it up best.

PS I found the helpme template. Please reply to my talk page. Thanks. NYCDA (talk) 17:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

January 16

cant video and other media be used as proof of factual accuracy of a statement?

I just tried to create a page and had it reverted 4 times for being an "attack page", even though i also provided a link to a video showing objective proof that the things I said were correct, and not just some POV nonsense. are videos not considered as suitable as references to provide proof of the factual accuracy of something? if not, why was i reverted? Fubardoman (talk) 01:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The page you were posting is not appropriate for Wikipedia. Sorry. You may wish to see what Wikipedia is not or our community portal to learn more about contributing. – Luna Santin (talk) 01:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also WP:V which answers your original question. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:26, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Search User namespaces

Hello, I want to search all user namespaces for a keyword. What do I type into the searchbar to do that? Thanks, Sarsaparilla (talk) 01:36, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Visit this link, and replace the searchterm (I used "keyword") in that link with what you are looking for. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 01:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To get there another time, write normally in the search box to the left, click "Search" below the search box, then use the search box at the bottom of the search page where you can uncheck "Article" and check "User" and "User talk". In Special:Preferences under Search, you can choose which namespaces to search by default. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:43, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you find Wikipedia's built-in search too flaky, you can also use a Google custom search:

Search Wikipedia's User: namespace

If by "all user namespaces" you mean you also want to search the User talk: namespace, that requires another search:

Search Wikipedia's User talk: namespace

--Teratornis (talk) 17:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do I know if somebody's an admin?

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How do I know? What's the quickest way to find out? I've made this mistake a few times now, including above, where I called Sarsaparilla one! ☯ Zenwhat (talk) 07:32, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Input the username at Special:Listusers. -SpuriousQ (talk) 07:43, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some admins will advertise the fact on their userpage, generally with an icon resembling a mop. However, not all admins do this (some don't even have a userpage!) and the only thing stopping non-admins from doing the same is other users keeping an eye on it and reverting their addition. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 09:54, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another way to tell is to view the user's log. To do that you click the log link under "toolbox" on the left side of your screen when viewing that editor's user page or talk page. While it isn't foolproof it is a good quick way to tell. Generally if you see any blocks or deletions in the log, you can assume they have at least had admin powers at one point. If there are none recently the person may have given up on or lost their admin privileges, but if any of them are recent it is generally safe to assume they are still an admin.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 16:36, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Listusers/sysop lists all the administrators (also known as "sysop"s according to MediaWiki's synonym disease). Also see WP:EIW#Admin for everything you'd want to know about administratorship in general. --Teratornis (talk) 17:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

South African Air Force Personnel circa 1920

I would like to know how to access lists of personnel, non-officer, in the South African Air Force around 1920. My grandfather was with the RAF and then emigrated to South Africa at around this time. I believe he may have joined the SAAF at this time.

Many thanks for any help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.98.107 (talk) 09:51, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure, but my grandfather has dealt a lot with archives, and from what I have seen with him, things like this in general are only available upon official request from state archives. Call them or send them a letter. This is their webpage http://www.national.archives.gov.za/ --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:48, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

18 size engine

What is meant by an 18 size engine? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.89.20.27 (talk) 10:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried the Miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:31, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Who's Bob?

whos bob? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.219.203.141 (talk) 11:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:49, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bob goes, "Wooof! Wooof!". No seriously, you might want to check our article on Bob. It has at the bottom, a list of people called Bob. • Anakin ^{(contribs • complaints)} 14:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Page

How do you create your own page on wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by John Stain salesian (talk • contribs) 11:20, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the above, it's hard to tell from your question whether you are using the phrase "own page" loosely or mean that literally, but please don't create a page about yourself. Doing so would violate our conflict of interest guidelines, See also Wikipedia:Autobiography. Finally, please note that once you post material it is no longer "yours". You are releasing it under the GFDL and it may and will be "edited mercilessly" by others. Please see Wikipedia:Ownership of articles for further information.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One other possible interpretation of the question is how you create your own user page (although, if that isn't what you meant, the following info might seem a little patronizing). If that's what you meant, it's easy. Just click on this link: User:John Stain salesian, start typing, and when you're happy, click "Save Page". Your red name will turn blue. If you want to get back to your userpage from anywhere, click on the John Stain salesian link at the very, very top of any page (next to the little person icon). If you'd like to play around with the software without mucking up your nice, clean user page, try experimenting in: User:John Stain salesian/Sandbox first. --barneca (talk) 14:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How to Insert a Self Created Image

Hi Wiki,

I have created an image i want to use this image in a page which i have created Kunal1514 (talk) 11:49, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to add an existing image to an article, type [[Image:File name.jpg|right|Optional caption.]] to the article – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, right with the alignment of the image on the page and Optional caption with the caption, which of course, is optional. See our picture tutorial for more information.
If you want to upload an image from your computer, to put in an article, you must find out what license the image is licensed under. If you know your image is licensed under a free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons, where all projects have access to the image. If you are unsure what license your image is licensed under, see the file upload wizard for more information. Also, please read Wikipedia's image use policy, because if you upload the image under a false license, you may be blocked.

Hope this has helped. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:52, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

View and edit watchlist

My View and edit watchlist has gone blank. What do I do to restore it? Thanks in advance. --Stormbay (talk) 15:33, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This sounds like it *might* be a browser issue. I would try quiting it, and reloading, and possibly clearing your computer's cache.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --Stormbay (talk) 19:30, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

kecksburg ufo

I need a copy of the Readers Digest Article on the Kecksburg UFO, dated Dec.5th,1965.. How can I get or print a copy of that article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kecksburg ufo (talk • contribs) 15:44, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, this help desk is for answering questions about Wikipedia only. For help finding information, please see the Wikipedia:Reference desk.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 16:05, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Call your local library and ask if they have the edition in any form (hardcopy, microfilm etc.) and if not, who would--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

REQUIRED AIR FORCE

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WHAT IS REQUIRED OF AIR FORCE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.154.248.140 (talk) 16:10, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 16:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Citation problems

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Hello I was wondering if someone could take a look at the citation I added on the page here: Velma Barfield and let me know why it isn't showing up correctly. To my knowlege I did it correctly and any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Nicklinn (talk) 16:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. {{cite web}} doesn't automatically put the citation in <ref></ref> tags; you have to do it manually. Algebraist 16:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help! Nicklinn (talk) 16:51, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See the instructions in WP:FOOT. --Teratornis (talk) 16:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

satyr

How do I go about locating pornunciations of words? For example, SATYR

You may want to start with the Wiktionary entry. Bovlb (talk) 17:10, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DEALER & MFRS OF FANCY DECORATIVE PIPE

REQUIRE DEALER & MFRS ADDRESS OF FANCY DECORATIVE PIPES —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.180.18.202 (talk) 17:24, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not for advertising, this is for questions about USING Wikipedia. Please don't post such messages here. Thanks The Helpful One ^(Talk)^{(Contributions) (Review Me!)} 17:27, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This questioner may be {{astray}}. Note that the word pipe has several meanings, so the questioner will need to be more specific about which type of pipe he or she wants. --Teratornis (talk) 17:38, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. The Helpful One ^(Talk)^{(Contributions) (Review Me!)} 17:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Legion of Merit

I would like to add Horatio G. Sickel, IV to the "Recipients of the Legion of Merit". How do I do this ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fostergoodwill (talk • contribs) 17:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Recipients of the Legion of Merit is a category. You can't add a subject to a category without there first being an article on the subject. Once an article is created, placing the person in the category is explained at Wikipedia:Categorization. I am posting a template below which gives some detailed information about creating articles.-Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Miss-spelled headline.

I have gone through the article and corrected the spelling of Scot's name, and corrected the names of his family. Also added name of friend. However, the main heading still reads Scott Halpin, which is incorrect. The correct spelling is Scot Halpin (one t). I am Scot's wife. I am a very reliable source. Thanks for your help. ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robinyounghalpin (talk • contribs) 18:10, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pages are renamed by moving them to new target names. This procedure preserves the page's edit history. Please do not rename a page by copying/pasting its content to a new page name. If you have an account and it is at least four days old, you can move a page yourself, but please first review Wikipedia:Naming conventions. If you still wish to rename the page, go to it and click the move tab at the top (near the history and watch tabs). You can then specify a new name for the article. The old page name will automatically become a redirect to the new page. However, if the desired target page name already exists, you will need an administrator to move the page for you, which can be requested at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Up loading Pictures

Up loading Pictures. Quick question? Is there any type of copyright violation up loading pictures from our Wikipedia Germen site to Wikipedia English site? Thanks for your help. Shoessss | Chat 18:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many images used on the German Wikipedia are located on the Wikimedia Commons, which means you can use the images on the English Wikipedia as well without having to upload anything. If an image is uploaded locally on the German Wikipedia (i.e. is not located on the Wikimedia Commons) then it could potentially be moved to the Wikimedia Commons, provided it has a license that is accepted on the Wikimedia Commons. As far as I know, all licenses accepted for images on the German Wikipedia are also accepted on the Wikimedia Commons, but I don't know this for sure. To move images to Commons, you can use Commonshelper (checking 'directly upload file' makes it easier). I believe Commonshelper will only upload files that are correctly licensed for the Commons. Arthena^(talk) 19:51, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Racial Accusations in Talk Pages

I see that making racial accusations in talk pages are discouraged in policy, but is it enforceable? If so, what are the ramifications of these posts by the same user. Is there a warning template that addresses this issue?

[[6]] [[7]] [[8]] [[9]] [[10]] [[11]] Angrymansr (talk) 19:14, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The best place to start would be with Wikipedia:No personal attacks#Responding to personal attacks. If the initial steps don't work consider moving to the appropriate steps in the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution process.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 20:19, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Find an administrator on WP:AN/I, the admin will give the user a warning to refrain from racial comments and will block the user if he does not better himself --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:23, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've politely let the editor know through his/her talk page that this is not acceptable behavior. However, because this is an anonymous IP address, there is no guarantee they will see the message or use the same IP next time.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 20:51, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Posting threads on the Mailing List

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Could someone tell me how to post threads onto the WikiEN-l mailing list. I've subscribed and all, just need a few pointers. Thanks. Rudget . 19:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You should probably read this page: [12]. Arthena^(talk) 19:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, just got an automatic email and that's helped. :) Thank though, Arthena. Rudget . 19:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

protection

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The article …Baby One More Time has the page protection lock in the upper-right corner, and is in category "Protected due to dispute", but it is not actually protected at all. I am not sure how this should be remedied. Arthena^(talk) 19:26, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Rudget . 19:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John McCain

I am trying to add to the John McCain page/artocle under political positions the follwoing:

In 2005, Sen. McCain was aaked about the now infamous Downing Street Memo. (Some time previous to the memo it had already been alleged that the intelligence had been "sexed up".) The memo recorded the head of MI6 as expressing the view following his recent visit to Washington that "Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being "fixed around" emphasis added the policy." It also quoted Foreign Secretary Jack Straw as saying that it was clear that Bush had "made up his mind" to take military action but that "the case was thin", and the Attorney-General Lord Goldsmith as warning that justifying the invasion on legal grounds would be difficult. Later, in the New York Times, Amb. Wilson would use the phrase twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat. Sen. McCain responded in a letter: "I am not certain that this British use of the word "fixed" has the same meaning which we might give to it in our country,…. " despite that both Merriam-Webster and Oxford give the same meanings for the word.

I cannot get iot to take, it appears in a dotted box anfd my links are not links. Help?

Ted Rogers <email removed for privacy concerns> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ted Rogers (talk • contribs) 19:52, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There was a hidden space somewhere in front of the text. I was able to fix it by deleting all white spaces between the broken text and the area before it. Also, it is not a good idea to list your email openly. If you want people to be able to email you consider a link like the one in my signature.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 20:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request to remove user page

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I would like to remove my user page: User:SyrinxZ/Home Décor Products. This page was created while creating a different page, and there's no need for it anymore. Please let me know how it can be removed. Thank you - SyrinxZ (talk) 19:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tag it with {{db-author}} and it should be speedily deleted. An alternative that you could utilize in the future when you work on a page in userpsace before creating it would be to simply move the page to its new location in the first place.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 19:59, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help Oni, I was unaware of the Move function at the time.SyrinxZ (talk) 20:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to help--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 20:09, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Be aware that if you do use the move, there will be a REDIRECT left at your User page which will redirect to the new location. You can then put the "db-author" tag on your User page, or just edit it to include other content. Corvus cornix_talk 00:17, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Contributions

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How long will the contributions of old inactive users exist? Will the contributions also be seen after 100 years? Please leave an answer on my talk page. D@rk ^talk 20:51, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on User talk:Dark Kyle. NF24^{(radio me!)} 21:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

copyvio removal

I received a copyvio I followed the instruction atleast I thought I did but it is still there. I stated that on the webpage http://www.ecpl.lib.oh.us/Flewellen%20Files/Icabodflewellenhomepage.htm at the bottom it states that I processed it? This was included in my email regarding the use of the material for wikipedia. I wanted to add the proper license but I could not find how to do it. Instead of being an editor maybe I should have just sent the information to an editor with an attached license and let them put it on the site. This is confusing.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Proarchivy (talk • contribs) 21:41, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

remove and start over

Can I just remove everything Icabod Flewellen upload the page to you with the correct license and have an editor place it on Wikipedia? rita —Preceding unsigned comment added by Proarchivy (talk • contribs) 22:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I deleted it as an "author request" and as a copyvio. Yes, anyone can add information to Wikipedia as long as it conforms to wikipedia policy. You need to add the license to the web-page from which the information came. Woody (talk) 01:33, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

January 17

vandalism

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At the beginning of the article "Black Holes" there is a statement about black holes being caused by people - obviously vandalism. But it is only visible when logged out. When I log in and go to the page, the sentence is not there. Nor is it there when I go to 'edit page'. It's very odd. Another editor has noticed it as well - so it is not just me or my computer. Can someone investigate this? Thanks,PhySusie (talk) 01:07, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what was happening, but a cache WP:PURGE seems to have solved it. Algebraist 01:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The vandalism occured in Template:General relativity. As the page was semi-protected, it seems the semi-protected version was an old cache of some sort. Anyway, seems to be fixed now. Woody (talk) 01:12, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!!! Wow that was fast!PhySusie (talk) 01:26, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do you add or suggest info for a page? I have important info for a page!!!

Hi I just wanted to know how to add or suggest information for a page. I & many others really love your page on Grand Theft Auto IV. I personally love all of wikipedia's pages. Ive just found some very interesting facts from websites,trailers,& pictures I would like to share with you for your Grand Theft Auto IV page. It's one of the most highly-anticipated games of 2008 & I have information on the release date,pedestrians,gameplay elements & more. Thank you very much.

Wikipedialover,Brandon Pickett

Contact me at <e-mail removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiddala (talk • contribs) 01:30, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Tutorial (Editing) on how to edit. Please make sure you insert a reliable source for your statements, though. JetLover (talk) (Report a mistake) 01:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, welcome to the Help Desk! If you can cite your information with reliable, verifiable sources then feel free to add it by clicking the "Edit this page" button at the top-middle of your screen. If you'd like to discuss your addition with other users, just access the page's talk page; for GTA4 it would be here. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 01:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question

How do I make new pages for Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roamin986 (talk • contribs) 02:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia, and the help desk! Thanks for the question! Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

RE-adminship

Last night apparently my account password was compromised and someone used my account for some nasty vandalism. In the process of stoppping the vandalism the admin status was speedily removed from my account. Where do I go to request reinstatement of admin status? ike9898 (talk) 03:09, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The bureaucrats noticeboard would be the best place. Woody (talk) 03:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Plastic

who invented plastic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.85.230.28 (talk) 03:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! According to the Plastic article, ... Alexander Parkes, English inventor (1813—1890) created the earliest form of plastic in 1855. I hope this helps your question. In the future, if you'd like to ask a question that doesn't deal with how to use Wikipedia, please consider using the reference desk. Thanks and have a good day, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 03:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OBC Certificate

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Myself is dinesh diwan resident of delhi, my wife before marriage belongs to karnal haryana. my wife belongs to other backward class.She cleared the exam of Assistant teacher from DSSB(Delhi Subordinate Service Selection) board . We have the OBC Certificte of Haryana, but they r demanding the Certificate of Delhi. While its not possible as One can get the certificate once in life. What should we do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.224.123.166 (talk) 04:02, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

psychology

what is the hippocampus? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.208.255.116 (talk) 04:02, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and welcome to the Help Desk! The Hippocampus is made up of two parts of the forebrain which help control long-term memory and spatial navigation. For more information, see the Hippocampus page. In the future, please ask any questions that do not have to do with using Wikipedia at the reference desk. Thanks, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 04:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Harlingen High School" article

It has come to my attention that under the "Harlingen High School" article, the school's address is revealed. This is a cause for concern. Nowadays, there is huge problem with teens keeping their confidentiality, whether it be on myspace, messenger, chat rooms, facebook, etc. However, teens seem to believe that merely posting their current school of attendence they are doing no harm to themselves. By posting schools' addresses, kids are put at a higher risk of being exposed to pedophiles and other harmful online acquaintances. Although as teens, we are told not to give too much information about ourselves online, we seem to be naive as to what is acceptable and what is not. I'm sure that by posting which school you attend one would highly doubt that someone with harmful intentions will be able to find their exact location of learning. Having schools' addresses on your site is dangerous! Thank you for reading my letter and I hope you can understand where I am coming from.

Nicole S. TX Age 15 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.115.170.17 (talk) 04:07, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your concern is understandable and admirable, but schools are government entities and their addresses are public record anyway. Also, I believe wikipedia does not remove sourced content except it the cases of Biographies of Living Persons, though I'm not entirely sure. --Evan Seeds (talk)(contrib.) 04:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As a father with two girls in high school, I can completely understand your concern, but it is much easier than you think to find the address of a school. A simple Google search will also reveal addresses. Not to mention the school district and HHS websites. —Travis ^talk 14:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One could argue that evildoers remain a problem because we still have too much privacy. If everybody knew everything about everybody else, few or perhaps even no criminals could escape punishment. That would not not eliminate all crime, but it would almost certainly reduce crime, much as a uniformed policeman visibly standing watch tends to deter crime. --Teratornis (talk) 19:46, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template remove issues

Where can I find information regarding the guidelines of removing a template from an article?

For example, I tagged unreferenced template in an article. Another user removed the template without adding any references. How to solve this issue? Where can I find information about this? --Avinesh Jose T 04:30, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest that you bring the issue up with the editor in question and discuss each others' reasons for adding/removing the template. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 04:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What shall we do, if it is not a registered user? Most of these edits often comes from anonymous ip address. --Avinesh Jose T 04:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As long as you don't edit war, you can replace the tag, and at the same time I'd suggest you invite them to discuss the issue on the talk page, since technically removal of such a template usually requires one to either fix the problem or explain why there isn't one. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When a proper tag is removed without explanation, and you attempt to engage the user/ip in discussion about it and that is not fruitful, further removals are simple blanking vandalism ( WP:3RR does not apply to vandalism). Warn with the {{uw-delete1}} template series and if the conduct continues after a final warning, report at WP:AIV.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation

I want to create a disambiguation page for Tim Wilson. Should I:

Create it at Tim Wilson (disambiguation), or
Move Tim Wilson to Tim Wilson (comedian), use Tim Wilson as the disambiguation page, and fix/disambiguate the incoming links?

Note that I stumbled on this page via a link that went to the wrong Tim. Jfire (talk) 05:56, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You should move the existing article to Tim Wilson (comedian) or something similar and make Tim Wilson the disambiguation page with all the various Tim Wilson's listed. Euryalus (talk) 06:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In these cases, it tends to depend on the relative importance of the things being disambiguated (see WP:DAB). If one person is much more likely to be searched for under that name than the other, then you'll tend to keep them at the main article and either use a hatnote or disambiguation page for the rest, whereas if there are several of similar notability, then you make the main page a disambiguation. For example, John Smith disambiguates a large number of people by that name, while John Howard is about the former Australian Prime Minister, with a hatnote to a disambiguation page. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Language

I want to ask the question regarding languages in this site, there are many languages except Urdu, please add this language as well because Urdu is also very common language.

Regards Ashfaq Ahmad Attar 202.163.96.68 (talk) 07:21, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Urdu Wikipedia is at http://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/. --teb728 t c 07:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The complete language list is at meta:List of Wikipedias. The Urdu Wikipedia has too few articles to be on short lists of the large Wikipedias. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Citation system & citing forums or wikis.

My question is more of a case of two questions in one, though they're not exactly linked. My first question involves the coding for the citation system here on Wikipedia; how is it done? Is it done like a template? I wish to copy the code and adapt it for use on other Wikipedia-like websites (such as wikia, or wikicities) so as not to use the [___] external link tag in place of a source citation. However, I don't know where to find this code or what the "citation template" is to be called.

Onto the secondary question, are forums acceptable as a source for certain Wikipedia articles? Even if the subject matter is not testified by "experts", if the forum is a primary source is citation permitted? The same question applies for other Wikipedia inspired websites. Thanks for the help. Terek (talk) 08:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The citations are enabled with the extension mw:Extension:Cite/Cite.php which can be added to any MediaWiki installation, this enables the <ref> tags. We then use citation templates such as {{cite web}} within these tags. See also Wikipedia:Footnotes.

Forum postings are generally frowned upon under WP:SPS as anyone can log in and write a forum post, there is no editorial oversight and you can't easily prove who the poster was or whether the information within is true. 86.21.74.40 (talk) 11:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Generally consensus has applied that forums and blogs are unacceptable as a source because anyone can make posts and they show no indication of professional or majority opinion on a matter. Even if 4000 people post on a forum that they disapprove of something, you can't use it as a source for any basis of approval on a subject because for all you know it is the only 4000 people in the world who feel that way, or that its not the same person. Generally the exception for this is when the poster of a statement holds an official position on the subject at hand. Say for example, citing a post on Ubisoft's forums in which an employee of the company discussed a technical problem (see the Assassin's Creed article if you want to see the example as applied).--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 13:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What about regarding a forum discussion as a primary source? Take a hypothetical example of a columnist making rancorous remarks about a certain subject, which were than transposed from the original post in a topic at, say, the World of Warcraft forums, becoming one of the most highly re-posted articles on high-profile, game-related blogs. The discussion caused by the slander eventually forced a change within, say, Blizzard Entertainment's management structure. In such a case, aside from bloggers re-posting the original article and talking about it, there lacks any credible source except the original topic; would a citation be permitted in this case? Terek (talk) 08:16, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why separate user databases ?

Hi! Why does each language version of wikipedia has its own user database ? That way one has to create a separate user account on each wikipedia he uses. People (at least I) already have "thousands" of different user accounts all over the internet (forums, shops, mail lists, whatnot...), so it would help a bit, if all wikipedias shared the same user base.

--Xerces8 (talk) 10:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because that's how things started out, unfortunately. There is a plan to sort this out (see meta:H:UL for provisional documentation) but we might be in for a long wait. Algebraist 11:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the future, there will be a unified identification system which you will use consistently everywhere, online and otherwise (of course, it will be secure and robust enough to prevent a nightmare identity-theft scenario). At least, that's what I keep telling myself to avoid losing my sanity. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 21:33, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eric

where can tou check out Classification of living things? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.117.81.57 (talk) 10:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

try here. Linnaean taxonomy.--Kerotan ^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 12:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

next time use the reference desk.--Kerotan ^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 13:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

why my changes are deleted?

when i edit a page on wikipedia with correct factual information i later come back to find that my changes have been deleted and that the page is the same as before i edited it. why is this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjmextreme (talk • contribs) 11:17, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at your contributions I would say it is because you are adding a tower to a list of buildings. They are not the same thing and the page you were updating explicitly says "Only buildings with continuous occupiable floors (high-rise buildings) are included" and the reversion summary says "sky tower is a tower, not a skyscraper". Towers would go on List of tallest structures in the world and List of tallest buildings and structures in the world. 86.21.74.40 (talk) 11:24, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Click the "history" tab at the top to see the article history. I have reverted it again. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a new page to Wikipedia

Where do I go after I log in to add a page to Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cfhost (talk • contribs) 12:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

well first search the title of the article that you want to create, and make sure you have spelt it correctly, and if it hasn't been created, click on the red link and start creating the page. also make sure that the subject of the article is notable enough for an article. see wp:note.--Kerotan ^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 12:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

wind

kindly let me know the different names for wind at different altitutes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.56.236.206 (talk) 13:24, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

try the reference desk.--Kerotan ^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 13:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have breaking news

How do I add my brief starting article to the main page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Astronaut (talk • contribs) 14:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It has already been suggested at Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates#January 17. Wikipedia is an international encyclopedia and the article currently says 3 minor injuries in an accident. That may not be enough to get into the section. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't know such a page existed. It's sad that 3 minor injuries probably won't qualify it, but you're right though, perhaps it isn't notable enough. Astronaut (talk) 14:17, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If it should suddenly be suspected that it was controlled by a terrorist who aimed for Gordon Brown (wild example just invented by me) then things would change, but it currently appears of limited notability outside the United Kingdom. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:02, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/British Airways Flight BA38 but I think the fact that it is the first Boeing 777 incident is notable. I agree that the Brown link is tenuous. Woody (talk) 15:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The AfD has been withdrawn. I just examined some non-British news sites and was surprised to often see it featured prominently, for example at http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/, http://www.foxnews.com/, http://news.google.com/. If you post some links to Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates#January 17 then you might convince people. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Is all the information true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.73.150 (talk) 14:33, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, that would not be realistic with 6,936,710 articles. See Wikipedia:Content disclaimer and Reliability of Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is also not logically possible, for example Wikipedia has many articles about various Religions which make conflicting claims that cannot simultaneously all be true. (As a specific example, a tenet of Christianity is the divinity of Jesus, rejected by both Islam and Judaism, and most other religions for that matter). There are also articles about works of fiction which take an "in-universe" view in places (for example, describing the adventures of a fictional character as if they happened). To keep from doubling the size of such articles with disclaimers, we assume the reader understands the difference between faith, fiction, and fact (some might argue that the only difference between faith and fiction is that many people take the former more seriously, although at a Star Trek convention it may be hard to see even that much difference). When Wikipedia does present information as fact, the information is only as good as its sources. --Teratornis (talk) 20:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

about norton zinder

sir/madam i am a biotec student and i have been given a task to know about norton zinder. please help me and give all the knowledge about him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snjy (talk • contribs) 14:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try Norton Zinder and a Google search [13]. Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ROULETTE

Where can i get a two dimensional drawing of a roulette table and its numbers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.220.112.174 (talk) 14:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article on Roulette (click the blue link) does have a 2d lay out. Hope that helps! You could also try asking at the reference desk if that's not sufficent. Pedro : Chat 14:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Or try a Google Images search like [14]. If you plan to add it to Wikipedia then note Wikipedia:Image use policy. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:56, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki on iPhone

Will Wiki be adding a custom icon for wiki people that will show up in the Springboard when a user makes a "webclip", using their iPhone or iPod Touch?

If so the simple way is:

Create a 57x57 PNG. Name it "apple-touch-icon.png" Throw it in the root folder of your website. (Not the root of your server, the root of your web documents.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.61.140 (talk) 14:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Somehow I doubt it. It seems, and at least I'd hope, that Wikipedia doesn't start pandering to every third party app that comes along with a new icon system. There is already a root icon system in place that works with every other browser on the web. However, if you wish to suggest it, the proper place to do it would be at either Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) or as feature requst through bugzilla.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 15:33, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting idea btw. Me ponders about building an iPhone wikipedia portal. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:43, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify; this image would need to go at http://en.wikipedia.org/apple-touch-icon.png ? —Random832 16:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redirecting Similar Names

How do I redirect similar names or other names for same subject to a page I created. For example, I have added a paragraph on Digital Converter Boxes to an article I am producing on Cable Converter Boxes and I want any search on Digital Converter Boxes to land on that page and section. How is this done. Also if someone enters the word convert box, or converter/descrambler, in lower or upper case how do I make that land on this page?

Michael William Meissner (talk) 15:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can create an article and then make a WP:REDIRECT. Keep in mind about Case sensitivity. Jauerback (talk) 15:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article printing problem

when trying to print the "printable version" of the Graphical Timeline of the Big Bang, it wont print the whole graph picture. stops at . Prints the intro paragraph on the 1st page, the graph picture to the "Quark epoch" on the 2nd page and the closing "See also" on page 3.

Any ideas?

Thanks, JK —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwking13 (talk • contribs) 17:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I had the same problem. However, I think if you were to copy the image and paste to another program (maybe Microsoft Powerpoint), you should at least be able to adjust the format/style there a bit better. Jauerback (talk) 18:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What do stick puppets do

i am a child and i need to know what a stick puppet soes and what one is please can you help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.136.118.69 (talk) 17:26, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A stick puppet is a picture or caricature of something glued or taped to a stick. You use it as a puppet. -- kainaw ™ 18:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 18:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just in case you're confusing terms. There is also:

Keeping a biography from being speedily deleted

I saw only two cases where cast members of Hee Haw did not have blue links. I wanted to make sure the information was available here about the Hager Twins, so I started an article. but I've heard biographies are notorious for being deleted and wanted to put it somewhere where people could look at it before I actually submitted it. Even after all the work I did, it doesn't look like much but there are few sources about these people. I did label all the sources, though, and I tried to stay neutral.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:21, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All you have to do in the article is CLAIM notability. State that they are recognized for being on the show. That alone is enough to prevent a speedy deletion and will force someone to use a regular AFD if they think it should be deleted. If you want to work on the page before you start it you can make it in your userspace under User:Vchimpanzee/Hager Twins or something similar, and then either move it or copy/paste it (move is preferred since it retains edit history) to the new main article name when it is ready.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 18:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I went back and checked and there are actually two more cast members that don't have their own links, but finding enough information is unlikely for them.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jamie Sommers vs. Jaime Sommers

I read a newspaper article that said Jamie Sommers is the correct spelling for the character in The Bionic Woman but that Jaime Sommers is the spelling for the character in Bionic Woman. The imdb web site confirms this ( [15] and [16]). Is that enough to make it official? Other web sites seem to disagree, but they could be wrong.

But the articles here give the Jaime spelling for both characters. Fixing this could be a lot of work, especially in the full article about the character in The Bionic Woman.

(Yes, this is related to the Hager Twins above, as they had guest roles in that first series.)Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes comparing the results counts from two alternate spellings of a word or phrase can indicate which is more likely to be "correct":

"Jamie Sommers" "bionic woman" — Results 1 - 10 of about 36,700 for "Jamie Sommers" "bionic woman".
"Jaime Sommers" "bionic woman" — Results 1 - 10 of about 49,100 for "Jaime Sommers" "bionic woman".

The numbers of search results are roughly similar, but the second search finds a sponsored link from NBC.com, suggesting that the broadcaster of the new series thinks the spelling is "Jaime." --Teratornis (talk) 19:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but this is mainly about the first series. I don't think you can go by the number of results because the search engine can't tell which series is being referred to. I hate to fix the name for the first series because of all the work involved unless I can establish I know I'm right. And if I am right, Wikipedia is wrong.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And on a related note, is there a tool to change every use of "Jaime" in Jaime Sommers (The Bionic Woman)? Obviously using "move" won't be enough, and the only two places in the article where "Jaime" will still be the legitimate spelling are the references to the new series. And then I have to fix all the links to that article to prevent redirects and make those articles accurate as well. Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would not change any spellings in articles about the first series without a definitive source. It's also possible for definitive sources to have spelling variants. As far as how to do large-scale automatic search and replace on Wikipedia, the only method I know is to use a bot program. Naturally this can be dangerous. --Teratornis (talk) 20:33, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I'm saying. I don't know if imdb is definitive. The "official" information should be, but user-submitted content is like what is here. It doesn't actually have to be right to be included, although here something's more likely to be fixed if it's wrong.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:54, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IMDB is generally not a definitive source. While it is adequate for minor details, plot summaries, and so on, if there is another source that conflicts with it at all, it is generally negated. IMDB has just about as much editorial oversight as Wikipedia in its content. That is to say, not much.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 21:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Procurement Technologies in Goleta, CA

Does anyone have any info on the subject company? I believe they sell, among other things, weapons parts, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.145.12.61 (talk) 18:56, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can also try {{Google}} search: Procurement Technologies in Goleta, CA. That finds an Integrated Procurement Technologies in Goleta, California. --Teratornis (talk) 04:59, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

getting page to go live

Resolved

– user soft-blocked for username reasons, user page deleted accordingly. Bencherlite ^Talk 01:32, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I created a page for an architecture firm (Harley Ellis Devereaux) and thought it was live but when i do a search for it, it doesn't show up. How do I make the page live?

Thanks, Hedev (talk) 19:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The "page" you created is in your own user page, here. To make a page live, it needs to be moved from the user space to the article mainspace. Unfortunately, to do that, your account needs to be more than 4 days old.

HOWEVER, the page as it stands would probably not be accepted and therefore is likely to be speedily deleted. It reads like an advertisment, fails to establish notability of the subject, and does not cite references from reliable sources. Also, your username suggests that you might have a conflict of interest, which while not prohibited, it is discouraged. Astronaut (talk) 19:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A wise way to avoid conflict of interest problems is to use Wikipedia:Articles for creation or Wikipedia:Requested articles. Each one has its own purposes and uses which are outlined at the top of its page, so you may pick the one that best suits your goals.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 19:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You said, "your account needs to be more than 4 days old". To do what and why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.163.254.1 (talk) 20:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To move the page from its current location to where you want it to be. However, I agree that for a variety of reasons including notability and conflict of interest issues, the article would most likely be nominated for deletion promptly.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 21:03, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Table of Contents problem

Resolved

Hi, I'm working on the pages for Gorgeous Carat and Voice or Noise (manga). Both are manga series. I added the standard infoboxes for them, but now their Table of Contents(es?) are tacked onto the infoboxes. How do I get them back to the usual spot? Thanks! TigressofIndia (talk) 19:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it needed {{Infobox animanga/Footer}} at the bottom. I followed the example from Template:Infobox_animanga#An_invented_example. Arthena^(talk) 19:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Use

__TOC__

whereever you need the contents. _{WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN}^{play it cool.} 19:49, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(Edit conflict)It looks like you forgot to add the footer template for the info box (or had it in the wrong location). Some infobox templates use these while others are self contained. If you run into the problem in the future the best way to deal with it is to check the template's page and talk page for documentation or instructions on using it.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 19:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately using the TOC insertion would likely not have fixed this problem as it was an issue with template formatting.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 19:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New article on 'Sussex Family History Group' has been deleted

You have a page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_history_society#England where many family history societies are listed.

That leads to eight or so articles on English societies. Why not a ninth? Or are you going to delete them all?

How do we become notable, or is that not possible? I can add sentences like 'SFHG is one of the oldest and family history groups in England with one of the largest memberships.' 'The website has been voted the best by FFHS twice.'

I can understand if you decide you don't want any groups listed but please be consistent.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alanst (talk • contribs) 20:43, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article deletion is decided through discussion of the community and closure by an administrator on a case by case basis. It is because of this that many editors follow the advice put forth in WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS to avoid the fact that similar articles exist as a defense against deletion. If you believe the article was deleted unfairly you can request a Wikipedia:Deletion review, or if you believe the other articles should also be deleted you can list them yourself. --Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 21:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IF you are going to add any information about the age of the society, any awards bestowed upon it, and so on, please provide a source in the form of a citation.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 21:08, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some good things to read about this are Wikipedia:Notability (organizations) and Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can Someone Redirect me please

Resolved

I have seen someone do some sort of "request for opinion" by an expert in grammar and english on a talk page during a dispute. Id like to know if there is a page with different kinds of these, and if so, can someone provide a link. thank you.the juggreserection ^IstKrieg! 20:56, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds like you might be looking for Wikipedia:Requests for comment.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 20:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

exactly. thank you.the juggreserection ^IstKrieg! 20:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. --Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 21:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cannot click on link

I changed my skin to chick and now when I click on my preferences I cannot access the preferences. They show up but I'm unable to click on them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Olivia1978 (talk • contribs) 22:51, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can manually type Special:Preferences in the left hand search bar or type http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences in your browser's search bar. NF24^{(radio me!)} 22:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Use this link to enter your preferences in the default skin. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:14, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving talk pages

Does anyone know if there is a template one can use to request or point out that a page needs to be archived? I can't spot one, and am thinking of requesting such a template. Richard001 (talk) 23:18, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A search of WP turned up several, including {{Verylongtalkpage}}, {{Archiveme}}, and {{Verylongtalk}}. —Travis ^talk 23:48, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

January 18

Why was my page deleted???

Hi I work for Melissa Harrington AKA MelissaMidwest and I was trying to make a page for her and before I was done with it you deleted it. I am not sure why this is but Melissa is a very important person in the adult world and needs a page on your site. Melissa's site www.melissamidwest.com is currently the most successful amateur model on the web getting better then 8 million visits a month and over 500 million hits a month. She has been in over 30 magazines anywhere from Maxim, FHM to Playboy. She was arrested at least twice for doing her site and was featured on CNN one of the times. I got the idea to do this page because another model in Melissa's field has a page on your site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_Riley and I was trying to do a similar one for Melissa but I am still learning how the site works. I in no way wanted to put things that are not allowed but I have read many pages on your site and they explained what people had done in there careers and the impact they had made in there field. Melissa is one of the only girls in the adult world that owns and runs her own company and is trying to get other girls to follow in her footsteps so they are not taken advantage of. She is very generous with the community donating quite a bit of what she makes back to the community. I feel she is more then worthy of having a page. If you tell me what I can and can't put I would be more then happy to follow your rules. Thanks, Shane

http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Melissa_Harrington_AKA_MelissaMidwest.com&action=edit —Preceding unsigned comment added by MelissaMidwest (talk • contribs) 00:21, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles about people need to explain the person's notability, and provide reliable sources to back up these claims - this is the only "worthy" that counts here. For more information, see WP:V, WP:BIO, WP:PORNBIO, WP:WWMPD, and, since you say you work for her, WP:COI. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:56, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you think you can demonstrate notability, etc, then you might like to create a draft of the page in private user space, eg User:MelissaMidwest/MelissaMidwest. When you're ready, come back here and ask for a review and if you meet the above acronyms, someone will move the page in main-space. But be warned, you never 'own' a page, other people are always free to edit it, or to propose it for deletion, which they will, if it isn't clearly notable. Regards, Ben Aveling 01:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also see: Wikipedia:User_account_policy#Company/group names and Wikipedia:User_account_policy#Sharing accounts. Wikipedia has much stricter requirements for articles than many other wikis. You might want to check out other public wikis in wikiindex:Category:Pornography, such as for example NikkiWiki which according to its WikiIndex entry uses the same MediaWiki software as Wikipedia, so editing there probably works much like it does here (different MediaWiki wikis can have different features enabled, so they are not all 100% compatible, but the basic editing commands generally work the same way). Wikis that specialize in a given topic usually accept a wider range of articles within their topic than Wikipedia does. --Teratornis (talk) 04:53, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

after several tries, cannot log in

I just created a new account and have verified several disguised graphic phrases, but it does not let me log in. I have been told that my email has been verified, after I clicked on the link sent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.141.74.126 (talk) 00:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I’m assuming that “disguised graphic phrases” is referring to the CAPTCHA. I don’t have an answer for you, but hopefully someone can provide one. —Travis ^talk 00:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Help:Logging in. Usernames and passwords are case sensitive. The account must be at the language Wikipedia you log in to. What is the username and what happens when you try to log in? PrimeHunter (talk) 01:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Boxed templates...

How do I put a box around a template, like {{Unreferenced}}? Kitsune 01:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Use Template:tl, like this: {{Unreferenced}}. jj137 ^♠ 01:25, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, that's not what I meant, I meant, click Template:Unreferenced, and look at the template. See the box around it? I want it like that. How do I place a box around text in a template? Kitsune 01:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is {{Ambox}} what you're after? Bencherlite ^Talk 01:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, something like that! Kitsune 01:32, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My question was: How do I copy that sort of thing and make a box on my own wiki? :( Kitsune 01:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

View the source of any template that you want to emulate to see how other authors did it. —Travis ^talk 01:34, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(undent) Porting templates to other MediaWiki wikis can be somewhat difficult, because the template in question may:

Transclude other templates, which in turn may transclude more templates. You have to copy all the transcluded templates to your wiki, or edit your template code to supply the same functions.
Require various extensions. This may be true if the template you want to copy or adapt contains markup codes that "bleed through" unprocessed on your wiki when you view a page that transcludes your template. For example, many templates on Wikipedia rely on the ParserFunctions extension, and you have to install this yourself on MediaWiki. See Special:Version for a list of extensions installed on whatever wiki you are looking at.
Require various CSS style classes to be in MediaWiki:Common.css. The easiest solution is to copy the whole page from Wikipedia to your wiki, although that will almost certainly be overkill.

Obviously, the more you learn about template programming, the fewer problems you will have with copying templates or template ideas from other MediaWiki wikis. I don't know if anyone has actually written a template porting guide, but this question comes up often enough on the Help desk to indicate demand for such a guide. --Teratornis (talk) 05:12, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way to make text invisible everywhere except when on the edit page?

I know there is a function for this in HTML, but is there a Wiki tag to make notes only visible to someone editing the page, such as a direct note to someone editing that those reading the page don't need to see? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.144.233.204 (talk) 02:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, enclose your text like this: . Try to avoid doing this though, the talk page may be a better place to put a note on the article. Prodego ^talk 02:36, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Prodego’s disclaimer. I think that html comments should only be used to explain some element of the page layout or other technical detail. It can also be used in non-article pages to give instructions to other editors, for example,  could be used on a talk page. —Travis ^talk 02:48, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

says I didn't cite sources but I did

The article on "compulsory public education" has a notice on it saying it doesn't cite any sources. But as you can see, it does. How do I get rid of that notice? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Griffothy (talk • contribs) 02:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When you click "edit this page" at the top, you will see a template that looks like this {{Unreferenced|date=(date)}}; remove it. Voila.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:46, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article was missing {{reflist}} when it was tagged, but you have since added it. I took the liberty of removing the tags. —Travis ^talk 02:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

China

Are there any ways to get around China's block? I have a friend who's going through withdrawal--69.246.23.58 (talk) 02:47, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Blocking of Wikipedia in mainland China. —Travis ^talk 02:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

making a page

I am trying to make a page about a comedian named Steve Patterson. Someone is saying it should be deleted because I don't have enough sources. the page is still under construction. What should I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Britney901 (talk • contribs) 02:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

State your case on the article’s deletion discussion page. —Travis ^talk 02:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article is at Articles for deletion, here Barring a snow close (which is extremely unlikely, except as a keep), the deletion debate will be there for five days or longer before any action is taken with respect to the article, including deletion. So my suggestion to you is to first read Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions before commenting at the deletion debate, and whether you do or don't, go add sources to the article. Two users have already expressed their opinion that the subject is notable, and should be kept, but that the article needs more sources to establish that notability.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:00, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Special TOC

On this page I'd like to have a TOC box that looks like this
1953 1954 1955 1956 1957 1958 1959
1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1968 1969
1970 1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979
etc.
With the years divided into decade groups, instead of one hugely long vertical list. Is there any way to do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dizzy hiss (talk • contribs) 03:17, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. I took the liberty to create a TOC before you clarified your query. You may revert it. And sorry, i dont know how to create a horizontal TOC like you wanted. kawaputra^torque 03:37, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Perhaps {{CompactTOC8}} can fulfill your need.~~ —Travis ^talk 03:46, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then again, no. That only works as an alphabetic TOC. —Travis ^talk 03:58, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki's markup language is not a full-blown programming language with loops, so it is hard to write a template which could compactly generate a TOC box with variable start years, end years, and number of years per row. However, Wikipedia's users have made some remarkably intricate templates, so I hesitate to say it can't be done. If you have an hour to burn, you might browse through the intricate template category and see if anyone has done anything similar to what you want to do. --Teratornis (talk) 05:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the replies. I didn't think it would be possible, but thought I'd ask. Next question: can you have a TOC that's hidden by default? --Dizzy hiss (talk) 12:15, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Put __NOTOC__, that's two underscores, NOTOC, then another two underscores. I've done it on my userpage if you would like to take a look. NF24^{(radio me!)} 12:20, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but what I'm looking for is to have a Table of Contents on the page, but collapsed (hidden) so that all you would see is a box that says "Contents [show]". You could then click on the "show" link to see the full TOC. --Dizzy hiss (talk) 12:55, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have added {{TOCleft}} to the page. It accomplishes basically what you are looking for. If you want it to start out collapsed whenever a user visits the page I believe there is also a way to do that.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 13:50, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another alternative is to Create 1st tier section for each decate (1950s, 1960s, etc) and then use the {{TOClimit}} feature so only the top level section titles will show in the table of contents.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 13:53, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

background

this isnt actually a question,its a suggestion,why dont yall make your background color actively changeable for the viewer so the bright white background doesnt hurt peoples eyes while there trying reading, and possibly make the text color changeable too.didnt know how else to contact yall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.218.30.46 (talk) 06:31, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you WP:REGISTER for an account, you can easily change the colours using a WP:SKIN. Bovlb (talk) 07:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PLease remove pages on 'beauty queens'

Dear all, i would like to request the authorities of Wikipedia to REMOVE pages featuring beauty queens. In particular the page on 'Romanthi Maria Colombage' of Sri Lanka who participatedin the 2007 Miss WOlrd contest. i have personally found Wikipedia to be of immense interst and have gained much knowledge by browsing through its many pages. BUt i find that wasting pages in 'beauty queens' demeans such a web portal which has so much knowledge and interst to people. Kindly remove such pages, especially miss romanthi as she adds no colour or life to such a vibrant encyclopedia.. Thanks and Regards, an avid patron —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.247.212.30 (talk) 10:48, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What stays or goes in Wikipedia depends on the person's (real or fictional), company, etc Wikipedia:Notability amongst other things. So unless a page violates Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines we keep it. VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 11:26, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Has Information about Article Changes through RSS Feeds Been Substantially Reduced?

I follow the changes in about 150 articles by using the RSS Feed that is available under the "history" tab for Wikipedia articles.

Prior to about January 1, 2008 the feed would send a complete description of any changes to articles with the older revision in yellow and the newer revision in blue and the changes in red just like when you click on the "compare selected versions" button in the history tab of an article.

Since about January 1, all that seems to be coming in the RSS Feed is the "Edit Summary" with no details about the change that has been made to an article, making it substantially more difficult and time consuming to see if vandalism has taken place on an article.

Has there been a change in Wikipedia Policy about sending the complete description of changes via RSS or is there some setting in preferences I haven't been able to find that will get me back the complete description of changes made to articles via RSS feed.

Best Regards,

Reservoirhill (talk) 11:58, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Difficulty with referencing.

After reading instructions multiple times, I am unable to understand the directions related to referencing (and linking) web pages and was interested in whether someone can assist me for the following site?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icos —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.113.78.21 (talk) 12:34, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have to add {{reflist}} at the bottom of the page in a new References section. I've done it for you. Now you might want to use {{Cite web}} to format all those refs correctly. NF24^{(radio me!)} 12:38, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blackberry

Would be AMAZING if you guys could get a download for the Blackberry so that we can have a local Wikipedia application on there. CONSTANTLY use the BB to search on the internet and would love to search with Wikipedia about information. Excellent website and organization, keep up the good work.

Robert Diaz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.95.28.130 (talk) 14:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Masers of haematology in Ireland please

Please give me a list universies providing postigraduate and master of science degree in haematology and blood transifusion

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