Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/autonoc.com

Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/autonoc.com

Delete. Delete and/or courtesy blank ALL pages relevant to the original deleted article. These issue was resolved long time ago with coredesat and Wikipedia is prohibited from using any of our trademarks. All such trademarks need to be removed from Wikipedia. We wish no involvement of any kind with Wikipedia beyond the cleaning up and termination of this unrelentingly ridiculous issue. We will never again submit any content to Wikipedia whatsoever and have ended all support for the Wikipedia project. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Popperian (talk • contribs)

Note Nomination also includes Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/community.autonoc.com. I've formated this MfD for the nominator, though I do not endorse it. ➪HiDrNick! 21:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Nomination should include all pages related to this issue, not just these two pages. The purpose of this deletion request is to remove ALL Wiki-edictator "Replication-Trash" related to a long-ago resolved dispute that had result DELETE and courtesy blank. Use of the related trademarks in any shape or form by Wikipedia is strictly prohibited. We have terminated involvement with Wikipedia, will not support the project further, and all such references should be removed. It is our assertion that Astral, SnoWolf, and DrNick, by intentionally restoring pages with trademark violations, and given tone and demeanor of responses to this, indicates they are misusing our trademarks maliciously with deliberate intent to harm. This issue had already been resolved. These pages and all related should be deleted and/or blanked.

The above does not constitute a legal threat. Wikipedia and it's editors are taking actions that violate our trademarks, we believe this is being done maliciously. We are working to have them removed within the realm of Wikipedia (even though I have long since lost any faith in Wikipedia's processes) and editors reverting trademark violation blanks. We will work within the process of Wikipedia and take no off-wikipedia action until this issue is resolved.

• I'm really confused... what trademarks? What is this about? Walton^One 21:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Short summary: We, the vendor, added our product to a list of 100 or so NMS that every other NMS vendor had listed ... and afterwards, I have now spent one year defending and fighting accusations of hacking, spoofing, conflict of interest, ethics violations, harassment, legal threats, yadda, yadda, yadda. Despite never having lied about anything! Wiki-edictators spawning 100 pages of harassing pages while exempting the other NMS vendors of the same scrutiny (none of the issues of which any of have been cleaned up). We never lied about anything, and we have been accused of everything short of child rape. The ultimate decision was a deleting and courtesy blank of the relevant pages. These two pages, in our view, are covered by this and clearly violate our trademarks, and, as usual, Wiki-edictators come along, don't read anything, declare "I don't have to investigate this issue I can just undo it" and so they go ... and here we are again ... a year later. I think the web page submissionw as maybe 200 words and this may be the 100th such Wiki-Edictator page spawned from it. These two pages and any related pages need to be removed and deleted. They violate our trademarks and this issue was long-ago resolved.

• Keep. Appears to be a legitimate administrative information page for WikiProject Spam. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 22:00, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

One Page Added to a List of Similar Products by the Vendor Is Not "Spam". As per Wiki policies, we added a single page to the NMS list, as the vendor of the project. This page was reviewed. This page was summarily deleted. It was more notable than many other listings. We requested review of the other pages on the NMS list and most of those were also deleted. We never resubmitted the article and never will. Wiki guidelines given us at the time by the SysOp who did the original courtesy blanking told us that it is not a direct spamming or conflict of interest if a vendor submits a page to a list of similar products. That is what we did. The page was never attempted to be restored, and never will be. We were actually invited by many editors to resubmit the page, we chose NOT to because we don't want any further involvement with this website. If you wish to keep the page for spam research, that is fine by me, but remove our trademarks and personally identifiable information.

• This page is a conflict of intrest external link addition log. There is no claim of trademark. the company has zero grounds to request a take down. keep per counter spam/COI work. β^_command 22:16, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

We may end up making a claim of trademark misuse against Wikipedia and the relevant editors, but only after we follow the Wikipedia process to it's resolution. It most certainly has bearing relevant to trademark law. You can't use our trademarks maliciously against us, and it is our opinion that Wiki's editors are biased and this is being done in this way. We blanked this page and it has been intentionally restored multiple times by multiple editors while accusing us of conflict of interest and spamming. The CoI and spamming claims are falsified because it was one article, well within Wikipedia guidelines, we were upfront about everything, we followed the posted policies, and after review we never resubmitted it. We were also told after the fact that editors were probably too hasty and we should resubmit the ONE article. How can this be CoI and Spamming if we are being invited by independent editors to resubmit? We are making a claim of trademark misuse here because we believe you want to maintain this information purely for the purposes of harming us. If you want to keep CoI and Spam related records, I support that, but remove personally identifiable information ... because this is NOT a legitimate case of mass-spamming, nor CoI, we were upfront about everything, and followed the processes.

• Keep unless this domain is added to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist, in which case we no longer need them. --A. B. ^(talk) 22:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

If you want to delete all these pages and put us on the Spam-blacklist, that would be a solution we are happy with. We aren't spammers and we really want nothing more to do with Wikipedia, like ... ever again.