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==Structure==
==Structure==

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The WikiProject Buddhism is a group of people dedicated on improving Buddhism-related contents in Wikipedia. This page contains only the suggestions, things to give you focus and to get you going, and you should not feel obligated in the least to follow them. But if you don't know what to write or where to begin, following the below guidelines may be helpful. Mainly, we just want you to write articles!

Scope

This WikiProject aims primarily to promote better coordination, content distribution, and cross-referncing between pages dealing with Buddhism and its sects, texts, terms, philosophies, etc.

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Structure

Departments

To do

Requested articles

Please add articles you would like others to create at:
Wikipedia:WikiProject Buddhism/Requested articles

Organizing pages:

Current:

  • Buddhism provides an overview of the topic, with short descriptions of all the major subtopics.
  • List of Buddhists lists all people notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia who happen to be Buddhist

Categories

We have the following categories currently:

We clearly need more. Possibly we need subcats for "Branches of Buddhism," but I've avoided making such so far because of the ensuing fracas that would doubtless cause. "Perfection of Wisdom Sutras" might be useful, and there may be other subcats of texts. Buddhist mythology is currently empty...surely there's some material that could be classified as Buddhist mythology, like "Supernatural Beings in Buddhism," or "Non-Humans in Buddhism", or whatever the hell we finally went with at the main Buddhism page.

We also need a general "Buddhists" or "People in Buddhism" category for everyday non-philosophers (Philosophers can then be subcatted to this), and a subcat for Buddhist clergymen and women.

Also, I'm working on Category:Buddhist philosophical concepts, unless someone has an objection to that wording.

I think Buddhist mythology is a bit of a contradiction in terms; a myth seems to refer to something quite doubtful, unproven, whereas the general idea in Buddhism is that things should be 'proven' or at least experienced by a (clairvoyant) practitioner.
Similarly, super-natural is also a contradiction in terms; how do you classify something as super-natural, whereas all these kinds of beings mentioned in Buddhism are considered 'natural'?
The problem is that western concepts like myths and super-natural don't quite work in Buddhism. "Non-Humans in Buddhism" could be an acceptable title summarizing the various beings though.
Trying to make sucats within Buddhist texts may be quite a bit more complicatd job then you think, as there are thousands and thousands of texts...
To my knowledge there are some (boring) pages like "Buddhists", lists which can be extended endlessly.... rudy 00:21, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article Construction

Discuss the format for each article based on the WikiProject. Include various categories applicable to the topic.

We should probably discuss article types, which may have different parameters. Example types might be:

Texts

Articles on texts should include:

  • Authorship, if known. If the supposed authorship of a text is not established by scholarship, list it as an attribution: "The text is attributed to such-and-such."
  • Date
  • Place of origin (if known)
  • A rough overview of the contents of the text
  • Separate sections for particularly important ideas in the text. Alternatively, short descriptions and links to articles on said ideas.
  • Whatever caveats regarding disputes over readings of the text, etc.
  • Associated sect(s) (Indicate, where appropriate, whether the text originated within the sect or was adopted by it after the fact.)
  • A table of translations, like this one:
Mulamadhyakakarika
Author Title Publisher Date Notes
Garfield, Jay L. The Fundamental Wisdom of the Middle Way
 Oxford University Press 1995 A translation of the Tibetan version together with commentary.
Inada, Kenneth K. Nagarjuna: A Translation of his Mulamadhyamakakarika With an Introductory Essay The Hokuseido Press 1970 Romanized text and translation.
Kalupahana, David J. Nagarjuna: The Philosophy of the Middle Way State University of New York Press 1986 Romanized text, translation, and commentary.
McCagney, N. Nagarjuna and the Philosophy of Openness Rowman & Littlefield 1997 Romanized text, translation and philosophical analysis.
Sprung, M. Lucid Exposition of the Middle Way RKP 1979 Partial translation of the verses together with Chandrakirti's commentary.
Streng, Frederick Emptiness: A Study in Religious Meaning Abdingdon Press 1967 Translation and considerable analysis.
Thurman, Robert Wisdom: The Fundamental Stanzas on the Middle Way draft
  • A "See also" section for internal links.
  • An "External links" section for articles about the text, electronic versions of the text. (Separate sections for this?)

People

Monastic Article Naming Conventions?

I recently created and edited some articles about Thai Forest Tradition . And User:Nat_Krause was kind enough to clean up behind me a bit (redundant cats and redir Ayya Tataaloka Bhikkhuni=> Tataaloka after rm a title). I didn't realize that honorific titles are not used when naming an article about a monastic until I looked up Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles)#Clerical names. I had followed the naming of the many other articles on Theravadin monastics... which were mis-named. To prevent future confusion and re-work, I'd like to propose that we:

  1. Create and post article naming conventions for Buddhist monastics (I see that Tibetan titles have been discussed)
  2. Post the conventions on the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles) page.
  3. Clean up the existing monastic article titles (e.g.: Bhikkhu Bodhi) to be consistent with Nat's edit the convention we choose. --- Deebki 09:32, 30 August 2006 (UTC) (strikeout done 21:46, 23 September 2006 (UTC) Deebki)[reply]

Naming WITH Titles for Now: Following a discussion amongst several editors, the Thai Forest Tradition articles were named WITH the titles (e.g.: Bhikkhu Bodhi and Ayya Tathaaloka). It was decided that not using titles was simply insulting and culturally inpappropriate. For now, that is the convention our small group will use. I would like that to be consistent with other editors. Anyone interested in helping us shape a convention, perhaps for specific traditions (to remain culturally appropriate)? --Deebki 21:53, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I note that Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles)#Clerical names seems to be based on Western Clergy. I'm trying to work out how to deal with the names of Tulkus. It could be seen as POV to give each incarnation a separate article - but a separate article and a succession box seems to be the sanest way of doing it. No-one knows them by their birth names - I think only the clerical name with a number will work. Secretlondon 22:43, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ideas

For concepts, special terms, and doctrines (e.g., "nirvāṇa"):

  • Ideally, the name of the article should correspond to the primary version of the term (i.e., anatta for anātman]]), with redirects sending commonly used alternatives the page.
  • The first paragraph should name the term, provide variants in different languages, identify in what sect or sects it has currency, and briefly describe it.
    • But: What should the format for specifying languages be?
      • Anatta (Pāli; Sanskrit: anātman) is a doctrine yadda yadda...
      • But one could also use abbreviations: "Anatta (Pāl. (or whatever the real abbreviation for Pāli is; Skt: anātman) is a doctrine yadda yadda..."
      • or even link off-page to a glossary (most likely Buddhist terms and concepts) that stores the language information.
      • Also, once the various terms have been defined, is it still necessary to use whatever the canonical term, or can they be regarded as interchangeable?
  • Following sections should include information like:
    • A fuller description of the idea
    • Its relation to previous ideas in and out of Buddhism. (e.g., "The doctrine of anātman is a rejection of the concept of the ātman, 'self,' or 'soul,' that is vital in several mainstream Indian philosophies. It also has implications that challenge the concept of Braḥman or Paramātman (as Braḥman), which are essential to Indian monism.")
    • Disputes or schisms involving the idea
    • Connections to common user practices
    • Discussions of important texts for understanding the idea
    • Quotes (preferably with full attribution)
    • See also
    • External links

Formatting

Transliteration

Transliterated terms from Sanskrit and Pāli should take advantage of Unicode diacritics; for example, "Nirvāṇa". These may be input either directly into the edit menu, as Unicode text, or as HTML character references such as ā. A list of relevant characters is currently available at IAST. Several template-based shortcuts also exist for transliterations, but these are strongly deprecated.

Transliterations from Chinese should be in Pinyin, not Wade-Giles.

Of related concern: how to express terms in origin language. (I.e., is it "Skt" or "Sanskrit", etc.)? Priority of languages? (See Talk:Buddhism)

Terminology

We aim to build up a coherent and inclusive list of Buddhist terms at Buddhist terms and concepts, but that may be a while yet. In the mean time, there are certain tricky words or clusters of words about which we may need some degree of standardization. For example

  • Buddhism is a (blank)
    • Some concern has been raised that Buddhism should not be called "a faith"; this seems reasonable. But Buddhism is probably not a "philosophy" either. "Religion" seems the safest term...right?

Recognized content

Buddhism articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 1 4 3 8
FL 3 3
A 1 1
GA 5 10 24 28 67
B 28 75 93 247 18 461
C 48 81 192 932 24 1,277
Start 36 82 429 2,078 23 2,648
Stub 2 10 122 1,601 15 1,750
List 3 1 8 91 1 104
Category 2,137 2,137
Disambig 15 15
File 23 23
Project 12 12
Template 139 139
NA 4 4 15 60 78 161
Other 27 27
Assessed 126 264 888 5,043 2,432 80 8,833
Unassessed 1 1
Total 126 264 888 5,043 2,432 81 8,834
WikiWork factors (?) ω = 30,366 Ω = 4.89

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DYK (Did You Know)s

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Discussion

Templates for Articles

...Forthcoming, hopefully/

Proposal for Infobox:Buddhist teachers

I'd like to propose that an Info box be created for Buddhist teachers, similar to the Template:Infobox Pope - see Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Society scroll down to Religious leaders for the proposed color scheme. What items should be included?

    • Infobox content
Name
Image
Birth name
Birth Date
Birth place
Death date
Death place
Quote
Titles
School
Lineage
Order

Are those the right things? What else, or what instead? It could automatically link to other pages or categories, but for now, that coding isn't something I know how to do. Thanks for considering this idea and for your input! Nightngle 14:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you give some examples of the sorts of things that you expect would go under "school", "lineage", and "order"?—Nat Krause(Talk!) 04:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thich Nhat Hanh, for example would be: school = Lâm Tế Dhyana/Zen (42nd generation), lineage = Liễu Quán (8th generation), and order = Order of Interbeing. His Holiness the Dalai Lama would be: school - Vajrayana (Tibetan), lineage - Gelugpa. That kind of thing. While this makes sense to me, are these the right words to organize a teacher's background/credentials for the different schools? There are a number of Buddhist teachers with articles on Wikipedia, so an appropriate info box seems to be a good idea. Nightngle 19:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure whether most Buddhist teachers would have a value for each of cshool/lineage/order. Also, the distinctions are potentially fuzzy. For instance, is Rinzai a school or an order? What about Soto? However, these problems probably aren't deal breakers, and I haven't thought of a better wording.—Nat Krause(Talk!) 03:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the input Nat - I'm trying to think of better terminology as well. I think that the distinctions do apply to all Buddhist teachers, but perhaps examples would help with the right category names. Even though I'm using "Zen" as a school in the example I made for TNH, maybe Mahyana, Thervadin, and Vajrayana are actually the schools, since these the the big three when folks talk about the "schools of Buddhism". Then the "denomination" (clearly not the right term!) within the big three are Zen, Pure Land, Gelugpa, etc.; then a breakdown of the types of practice within those "denominations". Nightngle 22:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've been doing some reading of Buddhism 101 type articles, etc. It seems that the terms are far from standard with "the three major schools/branches of Buddhism" being common, but then it seems that other distinctions are either called "school" as well, or "sect" - not acceptable for this purpose, given the rather derogatory connoation. I'll keep looking... Nightngle 14:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I gave creating this template a shot (it's my first!) Template:Infobox Buddhist teacher - see what you think, and to see it in action, check out Thich Nhat Hanhs article. Please let me know if changes should be made. Nightngle 02:48, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some general examples:


Specific features and issues

  • Zen has an internal glossary. Should this feature be spread to other articles, or should there be a central glossary, or both?
  • Nagarjuna and Prajnaparamita feature tables comparing translations of texts. Does this feature seem sufficently valuable for us to make a standard of it?

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  • For Windows users who deal in devanagari and/or romanization on a regular basis, try Itranslator
  • the Pali Dictionary of Proper Names is in the Public Domain (can be copied into Wikipedia) and has a lot of usefull material on the people and places that were around at the time of Buddha (according to Pali tradition).

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