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"Others artists, including Igor Kordey and Ethan Van Sciver, often illustrated issues because the series was published ''semi-bi-weekly''" |
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What? [[Special:Contributions/86.143.48.55|86.143.48.55]] ([[User talk:86.143.48.55|talk]]) 04:28, 28 January 2008 (UTC) |
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What, exactly, is ''semi-bi-weekly''? Weekly? |
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== Move == |
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I think this page should be moved to [[X-Men (comic book)]]. Other than the clunky name it has now, I think the change would follow convention. And we can refer [[X-Men, vol. 1]] to uncanny, so moving the page would allow for both volumes to be discussed (i.e. ''[[Astonishing X-Men]]''). --[[User:Silver lode|Silver lode]] 00:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:'''Move''' - per my nom. --[[User:Silver lode|Silver lode]] 00:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:'''Move'' per above. [[User:WesleyDodds|WesleyDodds]] 07:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC) |
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The problem with [[X-Men (comic book)]] is that it could be seen to refer to a single X-Men comic book. Therefore it would need to be extended to [[X-Men (comic book series)]]. A further problem is that not only was [[Uncanny X-Men]] called The X-Men up until around issue 101, much of the general public wouldn't know what Uncanny X-Men is, so, without the vol. 2 in the name it could be thought to be the main X-Men series, instead of Uncanny. Ths could lead to much confusion, so it would need to be further disambiguated to [[X-Men (comic book series) (vol. 2)]] or [[X-Men (comic book series, vol. 2)]] which just reeks of ridiculousness compared to the name now. However people may still be confused and want to know what vol. 1 was, so I shall put redirects and a disambig notice to sort that out. --[[User:Jamdav86|Jamdav86]] 10:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:But this article ''is'' about a single comic book, not the name. Just a simple note saying that ''Uncanny X-Men'' was originally just called ''X-Men'' is all we need. There's not another comic being labeled as ''X-Men'' right now and the one that was has a different name. It's best known as ''Uncanny X-Men'' anyways and has been for decades. The volume number is somewhat trival. [[User:WesleyDodds|WesleyDodds]] 07:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC) |
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It ''isn't'' about a single comic book, it's about a ''series'' consisting of nearly 200 comic books. And over half of the franchise's comic books are labelled as X-Men. The key to disambiguation is to remove confusion, and the moves proposed only seek to add confusion. The page [[X-Men (comic book)]], if created at all, should be a redirect to [[List of X-Men comic book series]] and an explanation should be given for why there are so many different series at that page. --[[User:Jamdav86|Jamdav86]] 10:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:While I am still not sure if I agree with you that [[X-Men (comic book)]] would create more confusion, I would like to point out if you feel that (comic book) is the wrong way to do things you should bring it up in the Wikiproject so that you can change the way the guidelines say we should create pages. My original thought behind this was to make this page more like [[Astonishing X-Men]] which describes each volume of the series (though vol's 1 and 2 are not very long). Should they be split into [[Astonishing X-Men (vol. 1)]] etc.? I don't think I will pursue another move though bc it seems no be a non starter of an issue since there aren't that many comments, and since your move is at least an improvement from what it was. --[[User:Silver lode|Silver lode]] 13:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Quite honestly, it doesn't need to be disambiguated any more. Non-comics person types in X-Men, they aren't going to arrive at this page, they'll arrive at [[X-Men]], on which I put a disambig notice to clarify which is the primary X-Men series. Redirected [[X-Men (comic book)]] and [[X-Men (comics)]] to [[X-Men]] in case someone tries to do it that way in the search box. No need to overly disambiguate, otherwise we'll have the whole [[Daredevil]] mess again. --[[User:Jamdav86|Jamdav86]] 14:21, 29 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:I noticed this article is listed under "Requested moves" on the wikiproject comics [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Notice Board|Notice Board]]. Has this discussion reached a point where a survey/vote is appropriate regarding a move or merger? If so, I'll create the vote at the bottom of this talk page (well, or someone else will). Since this article is a tad lengthy and [[X-Men]] is more than a tad lengthy, I wanted to check the status before considering move options. -[[User:Markeer|Markeer]] 13:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC) |
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It's fine here really. There's a variety of disambig notices around the relevant articles to remove confusion. --[[User:Jamdav86|Jamdav86]] 13:52, 11 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:Cool. Since you first suggested the move above, I'll move the Notice Board item down to "Completed Move Discussions" (with no consensus to move). Silver lode added the item to the Notice Board so if he objects or wishes for a vote I'll be happy to move it back later. Just trying to clean up the Notice Board a bit. -[[User:Markeer|Markeer]] 14:27, 11 August 2006 (UTC) |
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== Clean up == |
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I think this article needs some massive cleanup. I can work with what is there, but I don't have enough knowledge to fully fix it. Anyone want to help? --[[User:Silver lode|Silver lode]] 00:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC) |
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===Suggestions=== |
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*Add comic series box - '''done''' |
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*Better picture needed for box |
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*Delete list of issues |
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*Citations needed everywhere |
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--[[User:Silver lode|Silver lode]] 19:52, 23 July 2006 (UTC) |
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::Why delete the list of issues, I think you just want to delete because it's too many and if u think it's useless what about the collections?.--[[User:Hotwiki|hottie]] 07:44, 5 August 2006 (UTC) |
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===Issuse titles=== |
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Is this list of issue titles really necessary? It's enormous, incomplete, and I don't see the need. |
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[[User:Bhissong|Bhissong]] 20:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)bhissong |
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::So what if it's big, the collections (trade paperbacks and hard cover collections) are more useless. They are more people who buy the regular issues than the paperbacks/collections.--[[User:Hotwiki|hottie]] 14:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC) |
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It matters if the it's large because the purpose of a character or comic-based entry is to create an informative yet ''concise'' article. Ask just about anyone who does regular edits to comics and comic characters. They'll say the same. I just don't see how listing every single issue title serves any positive purpose for the article. Now, if ''you'' think the tpb's shoudn't be there, then that's your perogative, and have the right to delete if you think it's appropriate, within Wiki. standards of editing, and improves the article overall. If this rational still is not satisfying, post it on the comics discussion page and get the opinions of others. |
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[[User:Bhissong|Bhissong]] 15:22, 6 August 2006 (UTC)bhissong |
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::Blah you're lucky I'm busy because I could put that list back and put the release month, who's in the cover, writer watsoever.--[[User:Hotwiki|hottie]] 23:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC) |
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I'm lucky? Dude, you can't take things so personally. [[User:Silver lode|Silver lode]]'s got a point. If you want to put that much effort into it, think about making it another page and linking it to here. And really, this "Blah you're lucky" stuff is pretty immature. |
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[[User:Bhissong|Bhissong]] 01:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)bhissong |
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::if you do put that much effort into it, i suggest making it its own page ala list of amazing spiderman issues. and have that linked from here. --[[User:Silver lode|Silver lode]] 01:06, 8 August 2006 (UTC) |
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==Grant Morision's Run== |
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Okay is there any need for all them detail plots of his run? Anyone else think they should be deleted. Thelaststand3 |
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== Why only Morrison? == |
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Why is this page only focusing on Morrison? Shouldn't Chuck austen's, Peter Milligan's and Mike Carey's run be included? |
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I think the whole thing should be deleted, It's pointless in being there. |
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== NPOV == |
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[[User:dizfactor|dizfactor]] The entire section on Grant Morrison's run needs serious cleanup for blatantly biased language. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 15:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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[[User:BetacommandBot|BetacommandBot]] ([[User talk:BetacommandBot|talk]]) 05:37, 30 November 2007 (UTC) |
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