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Miklós Horthy

Hi Stlemur, could you please read the discussion at Talk:Miklós Horthy#Nazi leader and #Category:Fascists..., and rethink your recent addition of {{FascismProject}} based on the info there? Thanks, KissL 08:42, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm not accusing Horthy of having been a fascist; nor, I think, does anything in the template make that accusation. The Horthy regime, however, is very important in the history of fascism. If you want to remove him from List of fascists I think that would be reasonable; I didn't put him there. Stlemur 08:52, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

It is true that most of what Hungary had to with fascism happened during the Horthy regime, but the article is about the person, and there seems to be a consensus that he was not a Fascist. It is also true that the template does not say that he was one, but it only provides two possible reasons for appearing on the page - "This article may be listed on an index of fascist movements or people" -, so it does imply he was one.

I removed him from the list of Fascists (along with some copyediting of the same) and I also removed the template for now; however I have nothing against you (or anyone) putting back the template with a clearer wording as to why it is there (until we get a separate article about that specific period in Hungary's history where we could probably put the template without significant objections). KissL 14:50, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Northern League

Northern League: not that I really disagree, but I bet you'll take some flak for this. The thing is that "fascism" is such a loaded word. Trying to define who is and who isn't is tough, and putting up that template suggests that you've decided the matter. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:06, September 9, 2005 (UTC)

Eh, flak is flak. I have a definition derived from established Wikipedia definitions, and I'm not unreasonable. The first page of this project will involve mostly pruning anyway, I figured. Stlemur 06:29, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikiproject Fascism

Sure, I can give my input, do you have any specific things you would care to know, or me to do? I'm just wondering. The Fascist Chicken 02:13, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, at the moment we're still even considering basic definitions over what counts as a fascist movement. Something else I could really use is good sources on movements outside of Germany & Italy. In particular, what do you think is the relationship between fascism and falangism, and where do governments like the Estado Novo fit in? — Stlemur 02:22, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

having seen the definition, how does this relate to Nazi's like James Mason (National Socialist)? I think there might be problems with yr definition, or should National Socialism be seen as something different? Harrypotter 17:58, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Expertise needed at Greek fascism

Hi. An anon is strongly objecting to the article as it now stands, and is being rather bold in editing it. The attention of an expert would be very helpful. Jkelly 22:46, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Please check out RfC related to National Bolsheviks

Please check out and comment on the Rfc filed against me for trying to have NBP libel about me removed. Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/69.253.195.228

List of fascist movements by country

Sorry about taking so long to get back to you on this. I reckon you've done a great job on this overall. I'll work on getting entries up for some of the red links (I've already done Parti Populaire Français, Falange Boricua and New Triumph Party since yesterday) and adding any more I come across. Otherwise, well done. Keresaspa 14:22, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Article - Human sexual behavior

FYI the revert on Human sexual behavior ended up reverting changes by another user, which for the most part looked constructive. I was going to try and fix, but didnt want to step on any toes

J\/\/estbrook       22:27, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Hm...usually when that happens Wikipedia gives me an editing conflict warning. - Stlemur 22:41, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Just wanted to let you know J\/\/estbrook       22:56, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Sinn Féin/I.R.A. & the Maori Party are fascists

Sinn Féin/I.R.A. & the Maori Party are definitely fascist organisations, as Sinn Féin/I.R.A. have been actively involved in 'ethnic cleansing' of Protestants from both parts of the isle of Ireland since 1916, whereas, one of the leaders of the so-called 'Maori Party', Tariana Turia was directly involved in leading illegal occupations of both private property & public parks (most notably, Moutoa Gardens in Wanganui back in 1995). Tariana Turia is hated by a lot of people. There are some people in Wanganui who want her to be put to death for treason, which the illegal occupation of Moutoa Gardens was. That is why both these organisations must be listed as fascist organisations. - (Aidan Work 03:40, 11 January 2006 (UTC))

These comments have been copied to Talk:Sinn Féin and Talk:Māori Party for discussion. --Stlemur 08:29, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Made me smile!

I just wanted to drop a quick note to say thanks for the amusing (yet entirely appropriate) edit summary on your recent reversion on the cider article. Thanks! Jamse 09:39, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks :-D --Stlemur 14:13, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Chadian-Sudanese conflict

A long time ago you voted against moving the page to Chadian-Sudanese War. You might want to reconsider your vote, based on new information documented in the latest Human Rights Watch report on the situation. Yesterday French troops were deployed in Borota, Chad to fight Sudanese militias[1] and the Janjaweed, Sudanese military, and RDL rebels apparently worked together to "empty villages" in eastern Chad. At least over 1,000 people have died, and the conflict is definitely not over despite the signing of the Tripoli Accord. I am urging other users to do the same. KI 00:31, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Request for edit summary

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Talk:Pro Patria Union (Estonia)

There is no reason for giving reference to fascism there; actually, i'd consider as vandalism or an act by a completely ignorant user. The party just another conservative IDU and EPP member, the only thing that makes it look more nationalistic (compared to German CDU/CSU or British conservatives) is its past pro-independence fight against the Soviet occupation. (Compared to precedents of today's Estonian Centre Party and Social Democrats, PPU was more radical at the time). Thus, the party is conservative (plus christian democratic to a certain extent) with an emphasis on patriotism. --Constanz - Talk 12:40, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

And our independence Party (see fascist parties list/history) is an euro-skeptic centrist party, and no way far-right. Eesti Rahvuslaste Erakond (really a small far-right group) has been extinct for almost a decade, so I'd like to know, who really made such ridiculous and inappropriate changes? --Constanz - Talk 12:44, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

As I see you're contributing to articles smth to do with fascism, I've recently created Jean-Louis Tixier-Vignancour (from fr.wiki) You might revise it.--Constanz - Talk 14:08, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I think your last changes on "Pro Patria" are not NPOV at all, as "far right" is not intrinsically POV, it is only understood so by some people. Okay, maybe it should be documented more. But Constanz is completely downplaying what is really up with this party, which shares many views, localized of course, with the post-Mussolini party in Italy, the LePen people in France, and so on. And if you take a classic indicator of Faschism, they might not fully match, but you will check off many items as well, including a certain militaristic touch. I think it is just ridiculous to say that because they are in some group in the Eurpoean Parliament, they must also be part of that system; these affiliations are skewed and where basically voluntary in the beginning. That Isamaaliit moved to the far right in the 2000s is absolutely clear, and nobody, not even the party itself, contests that. It is maybe not an issue some time very soon, because they go together now with another party, but for accuracy's sake, this is not okay. 84.174.242.49 06:32, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

USSR

I'm intrigued as to why you removed my comment on Chuck Berry and the Beatles' use of the term 'Georgia' on their records, describing it as 'speculation'. Do you really think that it is speculation to say that Chuck Berry was talking about the US State while the Beatles were talking about the Soviet Republic? For great justice. 23:45, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

On the one hand, Wikipedia users are not stupid and can recognize a pun. On the other, "Georgia on My Mind" is a Ray Charles song. --Stlemur 23:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Re Ray Charles, you are right, re Wikipedia users, you have no idea whether Wikipedia users have the cultural background to know this. Imagine a Kenyan schoolchild looking this up, with little knowledge of US or Soviet geography or culture. Please try not to write just for educated Americans. For great justice. 02:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

People other than Americans know where both Georgias are. If it's such an obscure fact, then why include the words "of course" in your statement of it? --Stlemur 10:51, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

So take out 'of course'. I think its not clear that everyone outside of the US knows that both the US and the USSR had / have Georgias. For great justice. 16:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

signatures, article titles

• Could you sign your comments with four tildas (~~~~)? That puts your name there, with a link to your user page, and the date and time.
• Fubini's Theorem with a capital initial "T" is not a correct article title. That's why the link you created didn't work. I've created the redirect page. Michael Hardy 02:09, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Albanian Fascist Party

Haha, that's very you. --Awiseman 17:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Cider House

You've removed totally my reference out, so I've reinstated it for the time being (with a slight qualification) and pointed you back to talk. The cider house in Halmore, Berkeley was quite well known and 'cider house Halmore' will produce some revealing hits in Google. By the time I thought I really ought to visit (circa 1975) it had effectively stopped (the old lady who ran it had died I think) but our secretary at work was able to describe her visit to me. The house name 'old cider house' is not infrequent in this part of the world, but none that I know of now function. The basic drift of what I wrote is thereby pretty clearly correct - tweak but don't totally remove please. :-) Bob aka Linuxlad 08:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Golden Ale

Good start. Yes, Golden Ale has become a recognised style. It does divide into two areas - the lager style, as you've indicated, and the wheat style. It is different to the American Blonde Ale. Keep up the good work! SilkTork 00:50, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Bad Joke?

[2]? --Matthead 07:16, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes. --Stlemur 07:34, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Reverted. Laugh if you want, but keep your fingers off. --Matthead 16:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Maltese "Fascist" Parties

Partit Nazzjonalista is not fascist and neither is Imperium Europa! You are offending my country and our political parties by saying so! From where the hell did you get this information? The former is a Christian Democratic party and the latter is a Pan-europeanism/Libertarian party. Secondly, the Malta Nationalist Socialist Party doesn't even exist, and in fact their supposed official website contains no information. Actually, NOBODY has ever heard of this party except you, apparently. Drew88 12:59, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

In the case of the former, we have, at the very least, a close association with Italy during WWII which is worthy of investigation. It is entirely possible that the party is not fascist now -- parties move around the map all the time -- but an historic association makes it worth including on the list.

In the case of Imperium Europa, though, the version of the party you portray with your edits is flatly in contradiction with the previous revisions of the article. This is something that's going to have to be hammered out through both sides comparing evidence.

Finally, I think it's important to make a distinction as to who is being offended. If your country is offended, your ambassador is welcome to write me a letter, as are the secretaries of any parties I may have offended. Certainly, the firsthand source material would be welcome. If you're offended, though, all I can say is, present your evidence for your version of the facts, other editors will present theirs, and we'll see what comes up. --Stlemur 13:45, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Itbox

Hi, I'm just wondering why you think the Itbox article reads like an advertisement. It was contributed to by users of fruitchat.co.uk and we are far from being lovers of the industry. I would edit it myself but I can't really work out which parts you consider to be non-neutral. 86.10.102.39 14:35, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Consensus

When you're making a huge change to a collaborative project — as you just did to WikiProject:Beer's goals and then before that in trying to eliminate Category:Microbreweries — you've got, got, got to seek Wikipedia:Consensus. That means at least some discussion beforehand, somewhere where people interested in the subject will know to look for it.

Yes, I know, WP:BOLD. See the "Note also..." section in that guideline. --Stlemur 12:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure of your objection. I understand that you are not happy with my rewording of the goals. The Goals section was written a while ago and needed adjusting. "Getting stewed to the brim" is amusing frat talk, but is not suitable for a serious encyclopedia project. Wikipedia is a collaborative editing process. If you are not happy with my exact wording, then please make adjustments. That's what this open policy is about. A total revert is not the most delicate way of editing and tends to lead to hostility. Which wording would you be happier with? SilkTork 12:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

You didn't "reword" the goals, you substantively changed them without discussion. What I would be happy with is discussion. --Stlemur 13:01, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I've done a little more rewording. I've done it in stages to make it easier to undo sections. Have a look and let me know what you think. SilkTork 13:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Beer & brewery notability criteria discusion document

A discussion document has been opened up. Wikipedia:WikiProject Beer/Notability Criteria. Please put in your views either on the main page or on the attached talk page. SilkTork 17:59, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Let's talk

Hi Stlemur. I am concerned at what people are saying, and I do wish to get to the heart of the problem. Clearly there must be an aspect or aspects of my editing and/or attitude that is annoying and frustrating people like yourself. The incidents that are mentioned are small in themselves, and - to my eye - are part of the collaborative editing of Wikipedia, moving it forward. I make very many beer edits, much of which is stub sorting which either entails a merge, a redirect, or an expansion of the article. It is not, to my understanding, in the nature of Wiki that consensus is sought for what are essentially everyday edits. But I can feel from your frustration, that there must be a pattern in my editing that you are uncomfortable with. I totally apologise for any aspect of my behaviour in the past that has annoyed you, and promise to do better in the future. I am hoping that with your help I can learn from this experience and move forward. Please talk to me and let me know your underlying concerns which the recent edits have highlighted. SilkTork 13:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Following goethean's and your response I am going through my past talk pages and starting to list the conflicts so I can see where I am going wrong. As I responded to goethean, I had a rough ride from the start, especially from Mais oui! Looking around at other talk pages, it seemed that rudeness and conflict was not unusual on the Wiki project. Added to which, I have noted that people tend to be ruder when talking on the internet than when using other means of communication, so the hostility seemed to stem from general internet rudeness and "Wiki stress". I am still analysing the information, but as I indicated to goethean, it is possible I started to adopt a defensive arrogance as those who were challenging me admitted they had little beer knowledge, while those who did have some beer knowledge were congratulating me. I'm not using any of this as a defensive, but as the start of an attempt to understand the problem, and perhaps an admission of arrogance on my part is the beginnings of solving the problem. I really appreciate the efforts you are going through in helping me to come to terms with this issue, and if - as it is starting to appear - I have been guilty of arrogant rudeness to you in the past I feel somewhat ashamed and hope you will accept my apology and the hand of friendship. I do not wish to make enemies. I would rather make friends. SilkTork 19:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Look who I found

User:Shawn_Pickrell --Awiseman 08:34, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey, how's it going? Wikipedia is a great thing, isn't it? I am still married to Rebecca and life is good. Shawn Pickrell 01:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Fan Dance

You urged for a merger of 'Fan Dance' with 'Fan dance (exercise)'. I cannot immediately find such in the WP:MM related pages. I contributed to the latter article today, including a reference (with its own bibliography) that is not stated in either article. I also created a redirect from 'Long Drag'. I would oppose to either title for the merger: it should be 'Fan Dance (exercise)' because I find only capital D in this context (and there is an unrelated article Fan Dance (album) but it seems incorrect to assume that the SAS meaning is more generally known and thus the article 'Fan Dance' must become a disambiguity page to the album and to the excercise, not replace either one).
You created the article and started a merger process (possibly without mentioning it in the appropriate WP:PM list?), I leave it up to you to follow-up by performing the merger and finally WP:Move the current article to the name I suggested here. — SomeHuman 23 Sep2006 11:54 (UTC)

Lookie what I made

Please check it out. Moreton wave --AW 22:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

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Beer style chart

I don't like it either. But remembering that there are other points of view I simply moved it from Beer to Beer style with the intention of raising the issue to see what others think. I can see that other people might like it. Forgive me, but I reversed your revert because it was too soon for what is potentially a contentious issue. Broken Stoic is doing the right thing and it would perhaps be best to let others also reject it. It is surprising how small things can blow up, and it's best to be sure. But you can be assured, we are both in agreement that the chart should go! Cheers! SilkTork 08:37, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I think we might be crossing wires here. See my notes on Talk:Beer style. --Stlemur 08:42, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

It looks to me like we're in agreement. The style chart is awkward as currently presented, but there may be some value in having an example or two of such charts in the article. SilkTork 00:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Bryncelyn Brewery

Great improvements! You don’t happen to have a picture of the brewery /pub? --Camptown 10:08, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

There are a number of pictures on various websites but none that I have permission for; I do have permission to use one of the brewers receiving a CAMRA award. --Stlemur 10:23, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

DYK

On 30 December, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bryncelyn Brewery, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Sam Blanning^(talk) 13:04, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Coopers pale ale

Just deleting Coopers pale ale and putting a comment saying why is it so special is a bit too strong. What's so noteworthy with the other brands mentioned on that page? Try to be understanding and see that there are other beer making traditions in the world outside of the ones you know. Ozdaren 02:19, 6 January 2007 (UTC).

Apologies for adding this to your talk page (the pale ale page is not really a place for this type of discussion). I linked to the Beer advocate page [3]. There were some interesting reviews. It seemed that Coopers pale ale was almost universally panned by US reviewers (the opposite to virtually all the other reviewers). This seems almost poetic justice as US beers are not very highly regarded in Australia (the average Aussie guy would think of US beers as being weak and fizzy). I did a google search for Australian pale ale and it came up with Coopers and a few other interesting beers made in a similar style. I'm not actually a big beer person so I'll leave this all here. However it is probably time for Australian pale ale to be given its legs as a description of pale ale made in the Coopers style. Ozdaren 21:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Jonathon Sharkey

Thanks for catching that odd revision to the subject article. I bet it's a sockpuppet. -- Butseriouslyfolks 00:40, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

It's ba-ack . . . -- Butseriouslyfolks 19:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Mistake

Hi! I wanted to let you know that you made an editing mistake. I assume this was unintentional, and this is just a friendly notice so you can be a little more careful in the future. —Remember the dot (t) 23:23, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 18 February, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wye Valley Brewery, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

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Disorderlies

Haha, thanks for the edits. That is now my proudest contribution to Wikipedia --AW 20:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Bot tagging beer-stubs for business project

This bot seems to have tagged everything in the category brewery-stubs as belonging to our project. These tags should only be there if the article in question is a company. From all other articles in that category these tags can be removed.--Grace E. Dougle 11:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Best username ever:

Stop calling we Bosnians as Turks or I will kick your buns! --AW 18:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kicks Hawaii

I despammed it a bit. Let me know what you think. Just H^{editor review} 23:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

IAST

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Right back at you!

Hello! Glad you stopped by! I only edit so much thanks to my nutty schedule. But... dude... featured articles...? "We're not worthy!" ;) Sabine01 22:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

re: Ghetto Cristal

I did not create the article. If you read or understand the title, this is an attack article. The user removed some of the other attack items in article. You should have reviewed the entire article as created. Morenooso 13:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Beer Articles

Stlemur, for the last few days I've been processing a backlog of COI reports. When I ran across the one regarding BeerAdvocate and uncovered 131 external links to this site, that created the impression of mass spam. Now that we've looked into it, we see that you are a longstanding editor with many valuable contributions. For sure we are assuming good faith. The problem here is that Wikipedia:WikiProject Beer apparently set up its own rules of notability in conflict with existing guidelines. That's why outside editors are coming in and causing havoc. I urge you to take your notability concerns to the talk page at Wikipedia talk:Notability and get them resolved. As it stands now, any beer articles that fail WP:N or WP:CORP, may be deleted, and any links that fail WP:EL may be removed. Jehochman (^Talk/_Contrib) 13:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Home Brewing

I wonder if you could explain this obsession with home-brewing you seem to have? Home brewing is a hobby. It is not part of the beer industry. It is done for personal pleasure, yet you seem to think without mention of it, an article is incomplete. Please look at the big picture instead of your personal interest and recognise that the world at large does not share your interest and so, do not need to come up against home-brewing on every article they find. And please stop the edit warring. Mikebe 21:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but those assertions: that I'm "obsessed" with homebrewing, and that the "world at lerge" doesn't share an interest in it, are simply false. It is a prominent activity in the US, but I don't live in the US, I live in Britain, where homebrewing has lots of history; in fact for a long time, as I'm sure you're aware, there was little distinction between homebrewing and commercial brewing. So too elsewhere in Europe; all these farmhouse ales (sahti, saison, kvass) are predominantly produced at home today.

Finally, I'm not edit warring. --Stlemur 21:32, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I think the point that you make about the long tradition of home brewing in the UK (it has an uninterrupted history back to Saxon times) is a good one. I also believe that it is something that is worthy of being discussed in far greater detail in the wikipedia. As are the equally ancient home brewing customs in Finland and Norway. The modern homebrewing boom in the US deserves mention, too. The best place to do this, I believe, is a separate article, where there is room to fully explore the history of homebrewing across time and geography. Should anyone wish to write such an article, I would only be too happy to provide all the material I have on the subject. (For example, I have statistics on the number of private brewers in the UK.) Homebrewing is not irrelevant or unimportant. Just something separate from commercial brewing. Look, I've been a homebrewer myself and - given the necessary time and space - still would be.Patto1ro 17:22, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

According to the American Homebrewers Association, they have 11,700 members. Let's say that is only have one third or even one quarter of home brewers in America. This would make home-brewers 0.01 percent of the American people. I'm sorry, but that is not even insignificant, much less "prominent". Secondly, your home-brewing editing activity often involves the BJCP, so your concern is not just home-brewing, but the role the BJCP plays in it.

To say that the world-at-large has an interest in home-brewing is naive. Home brewing is a hobby, and in Europe, a small hobby. I am very active in beer activities in my country and in Belgium and I don't know a single person who does home-brewing or even has ever talked about it. You are, I am afraid, sadly misinformed.

Your editing rarely involves adding information to the articles that you defend the bjcp or beeradvocate on. You don't actually contribute anything to the articles, other than to see that mention of these organisations stays in. You can call that what you like, I call it obsessive.

What does mention of the BJCP bring to these articles? Does it illuminate something? Considering that it is virtually unknown in America (with only 3,000 members how well known can it be?) and absolutely unknown outside the US, what, exactly, is the point in mentioning them in as many articles as possible?

About your edit warring: when the owner of beeradvocate removed links to his site from many articles here, why did you feel compelled to put all of them back? When I explained that home brewing did not and does not affect beer styles, did you put the home brewing (BJCP again) back it again? What do you call this kind of behaviour?Mikebe 21:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

The accusations that you're making simply don't make logical sense. Not all homebrewers are members of the AHA; if you can't name any homebrewers in Belgium doesn't mean there aren't any, and doesn't address anywhere outside Belgium...I'm sorry, I simply don't see any coherent argument here to address. --Stlemur 22:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Homebrew Challenge

You can read about the details here:

http://forum.northernbrewer.com/viewtopic.php?t=39850&sid=f4f261906ed23f34f07bbd3f2b8e6bc9

It would be great if you could enter.Patto1ro 21:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

• I've been looking throught the stuff on Brettanomyces in English beers. Whether of not it affects the character of a Porter, depends on what precise style (that must seem odd coming from me) you are brewing. As far back as I have looked in the brewing records (1805) there are always two sorts of Porter : keeping and running. The keeping version, matured in vats would certainly have had a Brettanomyces character. The running Porter, sold straight after racking would not.

• If you look at the Claussen text, he maintains that, though it may have been present, Brettanamyces would not have had time to influence the flavour. "These beers do not get sufficient time to go through a secondary fermentation and consequently Brettanomyces will hardly be able to influence upon them to an appreciable extent." (p. 314)

• Both running and keeping Porter were brewed throughout the 19th century. According to Loftus, these were usually sold blended, in fact he goes so far as to recommend that mild (running) Porter never be sold in its pure state. But after 1870, as the "stale" taste lost popularity, Porter was increasingly sold "MIld", that is with no Brettanomyces character at all. Though the continued production of keeping Porter suggests that some was still blemded with aged beer.

• The presence of both keeping and running versions of some of the Stouts implies that a similar situation existed for these beers. The strongest Stouts (Russian Stout) seem to only exist in keeping versions.

• There's an interesting statement on page 315 of the Clausen text: "Most of the difficulties connected with conditioning the beer can doubtless be avoided, as well as the work done for this purpose, such as rolling the casks." When I worked for Courage I can remember being told how the barrels of Courage Russian Stout needed to be kicked around the brewery yard once every few weeks. I always wondered why they needed to do that.

• To summarise, any level of Brettanomyces appears to be acceptable: straight young Porter with no Brett, blended Porter with a third brett aged beer, export Porter that was all or mostly Brett aged. A similar situation occurred with Stout, though with perhaps a greater emphasis on aged (Brett) beer.

• Aged (Brett) Porter declined quickly at the end of the 19th century and by 1914 was sold exclusively mild. However, Brett aging of Stout continued, in the case of Courage Russian Stout right up until 1993.

• I hope you find this intersting and useful. I have a lot more detailed information about brewing in London 1805-1940. You just have to ask.

• And I really am interested in trying what you brew.Patto1ro 22:11, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

False claims

Your claims of vandalism here are unacceptable when all it was was someone else's POV. Calling other people's POV vandalism is not acceptable. Please dont repeat, SqueakBox 04:57, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

In that case I reverted three edits, as referred to in my edit summary. --Stlemur 11:45, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Heineken

Please post the reason for your merge proposal of Heineken and Heineken International on the appropriate talk pages. I agree the articles need some work, but I see no need for merging. Also see Talk:Heineken International#Split article. – Ilse@ 20:30, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

I Angelbo award you this Barnstar for your beer related contributions

Best regards Mads Angelbo ^{Talk / Contribs} 14:39, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

You just made my day :-D --Stlemur 15:52, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Muffin Top

You gave the justification "unencyclopedic, unsourceable, unsalvageable" to delete the muffin top article outright, but I strongly disagree with all three. The article is encyclopedic according to Wikipedia standards. Although the article was unsourced, I was able to quickly find and add a source, meaning that it's not unsourceable. Since I fixed it, it is not unsalvageable either. I think it's more likely that you PERSONALLY object to the term "muffin top" and find it offensive, but just because you may have made that determination does not mean it doesn't belong in Wikipedia. "Fuck" is offensive too but certainly deserves its space.

I suggest that you:

• Be more cautious with the deletion templates. Post something on the associated talk page before immediately requesting deletion.
• Take articles whose subjects you find offensive less personally.

Forteblast 07:48, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Please assume good faith on my part. I have no particular objection to the term as a term; but firstly it is patently unencyclopdic, not only since Wikipedia is not a dictionary but also because even if it were, the term is a slang term; the sources cited are not reliable nor scholarly. Hence I have listed the article for deletion. --Stlemur 07:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Proof? How is it unencyclopedic? If this article belongs in a dictionary rather than Wikipedia, explain why whale tail, tramp stamp and love handles deserve articles but muffin top does not. The problem described by the term is apparently important enough to spawn a different style of jeans and plenty of discussion on the internet, if not 'scholarly articles'. When a university funds a study on muffin tops, I'll be glad to add it as a reference too. Forteblast 08:15, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Killian's

Hi Stlemur! You undid my merge to the company. No problem. Looking at your notes you undid it before I had completed the edit to the parent company, and so must have wondered where the content was. I am following the Wiki guidelines Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Recommendations for products and services. Your edit was understandable in that you were not aware of what I was doing. As we know each other I have no problem with you in future having a quick word with me to check on something like this. Regards SilkTork 15:54, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

About Flying the Flag (for You)

Hi. Your edit to this page was reverted, because it wasn't classed as a tie - France got more votes than the UK, and the ESC official website doesn't split 22nd between France and the UK. Thanks! Will ^{(is it can be time for messages now plz?)} 13:51, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

photo credit

Hi, i'm using one of your photos in my thesis, under which name should i credit it for you?

can contact me at descartavel1 at gmail if you prefer.

thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gcbwikipedia (talk • contribs) 18:27, 13 May 2007 (UTC).

Hello again, i tried to reply on the same day, but got a database maintenance... i'm using one pic from a brewery, from the fermentation article. Also, you don't happen to have a flickr account or something with tons of brewery pics, do you? :)

Gcbwikipedia 03:26, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi again! do you happen to have pics of the keg filling process? Thanks! and thanks again for all your beer articles contributions Gcbwikipedia 13:05, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Continuation War

Please, don't remove anything, without providing clear and valid reasoning !

Thanks. Acting otherwise would be vandalism.

The proper Wikipedia links seem to have been provided in the past - and they can be reinstalled.

It truly is important to see what the highest political and military leaders of both parties - from the war time period and now - say about these events, especially when their opinions clearly coincide about the most important questions: Who started, and why - and who lost, and why, etc.

The "Contentious history views" segment appears to have been agreed upon by all, right prior to last Christmas Eve. The sources appear provided to all contested wordings. See related history file.

More sources are widely available, and more of course can be added - and will be, as our childes FSB puppet grows up. Isn't there a small organized camping in the heart of Moscow - in front of the Estonian Embassy - for those FSP youth hired to protest against the growing awareness within the Russian society about the true recent Russian history, the one not tainted by Josef Stalin. Perhaps that would be a place for him to go ?

User Art Dominique is not prohibited from contributing here ! I've checked. You check for yourself too. Besides, I personally do not mind using only one ID name. I do not wish to be credited for the works of others, however.

Lieutenant Dan Taylor 21:41, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

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Hello, Stlemur! So, you're my new sockpuppet, eh? Nice to meetcha! :-) Would you recommend something from the Flatworld series for me? Cheers, Illythr 13:04, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Federal subjects of Russia

Hi there! I've just noticed that you tagged the "Mergers" section of this article as in need of updating. Could you, please, clarify, what exactly is missing? From what I see, the section is reasonably complete (I might have missed some recent developments, though). Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll try to update it when I have time. Just wanted to make sure nothing really-really important is missing. Thanks much.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:24, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Dumbest category ever

[[Category:Monegasque bobsledders]] --AW 14:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Max Wright history help

The edits by User:68.48.57.3 to Max Wright (the two most recent, as far as I can tell) don't show up in the page history, and that user's contributions page don't show any contributions. What's going on? --Stlemur 02:13, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

And now the edits show up in history but the user contribs don't show up. --Stlemur 02:14, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

They appear in both places now, as far as I can tell. Try clearing your cache if stuff still doesn't look right.—WAvegetarian (talk) 02:16, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Still not seeing anything on the user contributions page. I cleared my cache. --Stlemur 02:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Salmiaki

Way to steamroll over consensus and produce an exceedingly long sentence. It would have been more appropriate to voice your views in the current discussion. --Belg4mit 19:52, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

please stop

Please stop for about an hour with any edits to Plaid Cymru. I do not disagree with per se with editing out extra "fat," but I was also resourcing and correcting sources during our editing conflict. Drachenfyre 14:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

About Peronism and Fascism template

Dear Saint Lemur:

I included Peronism and Tacuara in Fascist category since both politic movements accomplish quite well with the six points of criteria in order to be classified as fascist.

Here, in South America the Peronism is much more important as an example of fascism than "Vargism", may be because "Vargism" did not survive Getulio Vargas, and Peronism continued during the long live of general Perón and later to nowadays. As you well know former Argentinian president, Carlos Saúl Menem and the actual ruler Néstor Kirchner are both peronist, or at least, that they claim to be. Even if the first one was neoliberal and the new one is leftist.

May be, also, because we are all from Spanish culture here, and Brazil is a little isolated in its Portuguese culture. The problem may be to establish a differentiation and/or a similarity between Fascism and Populism also.

I do know both countries quite well since I lived in both time ago. News, mainly from Argentina, are well known in Uruguay – we are brother-countries – In my youth I was member of a kind of clerical fascist association: TFP, so I do know something about all of that.

Now, Heraldry is my hobby and I do not believe in gods and politicians anymore...

Regards my friend. --Gustavo 05:08, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hey Edmund, thanks for the support on my RFA. It's going pretty well! How's Cymru?--AW 17:45, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

It's OK. We're not underwater, fortunately, but it's making getting to England and back hard...I'm still doing my research. Things are slow right now but I'm working at the Great British Beer Festival in a few weeks, which will be exhausting but a nice change. How're you, still with the Dept of the Interior? --Stlemur 17:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Town and country planning vs Town and County Planning

A document published by the National Assembly for Wales and is available both here [4] and on their website is available. On the PDF document read page 6 of 7. 82.11.221.164 12:38, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

the "You have new messages (last change)." will not go, how di I remove it? 82.11.221.164 13:00, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Welsh cuisine and Cookbook

G'day, thanks for helping make the Wikibooks Cookbook better by increasing the Welsh cuisine content! Please note, however, that copy-paste is a poor choice for moving content from one Wiki project to another, because it does not bring the edit history across. Instead, there is a tool that admins can use to import an article complete with edit history (and thus attribution, an important part of our GFDL.)

To nominate something for importing into the Cookbook, please list it on Requests for Import. One of the admins on Wikibooks (maybe me) will then pull it across when they get a chance. It is much easier for us if we can import a page before changes are made; importing after the fact involves merging pages and their edit histories. cheers, Webaware ^talk 00:25, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Check it out

My interests are rap and drinking games. [5] --AW 15:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Povilas Plechavičius and facism

Since you addded the wikiproject facism tag to this article, you may be interested to know it is now being removed and disputed. Comments appreciated, -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  18:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Anatolian Greeks and Mack Smith

Hi Stlemur. I want to remind you that there it is not only the Greek group. Others agree with Smith opinion on the Anatolian Greek in Greco-Italian war: Eteturk, Frank R., Brunodam, I, etc.. The paragraphs that you erased are not speculations of wikipedians, since are referenced:<<After the war, Italian commanders like General Prasca would compare the stubborn Greek resistance in Epirus with that of the Turks in the Dardanelles in World War I, and even go as far as attributing it to the large numbers of Anatolian Greeks serving in the Greek army (about one fourth of the recruits were from Anatolia) after the population exchange of 1923-24.[9] Furthermore, the English scholar Mack Smith wrote that many Greek recruits were the sons of those Greeks forced to move to the Kingdom of Greece. He added even that the Anatolian Greeks had the warrior mentality of the Ottomans.[10]>>. The first paragraph was written by the greek Plakidas and the references 9 and 10 can be found at the bottom of the article. Sincerely I don't see any racism in the above paragraphs, but I see a reality fact that can irritate only the most fanatic Greeks. And this irritated behaviour is NOT wikipedian. Many articles in Wikipedia irritate someone, but the admins defend the objectivity and the different opinions of all of us. --Kemal2 21:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Altbier

Hi Stlemur. Altbier is known to be a pale ale. I have cited Michael Jackson saying that British bitter and Altbier are very similiar. That reference should be enough. I do not wish to overload the article with more references saying the same thing, though it might be worthwhile to include a comment and source giving a different opinion. Albiers are commonly compared to British bitters/pale ale - the only notable difference being the period of cold maturation after fermentation. The malt grist will vary (though not as much as the malt grist of beers within the Bitter spectrum), but will contain a majority of pale malt. I am wondering if you are thinking of something else? Even though it is called an "Old beer", the designation didn't come into use until the 1800s, and the "old" meant traditional, in contrast to the modern pale lagers that were becoming popular in Germany - in the same way that CAMRA used the term Real Ale. If you think of Altbier as the 19th century German term for traditional beer in the same way that CAMRA used Real Ale as the 20th century British term for traditional ale, you would be getting a fair impression of the origin and meaning of the name. Horst Dornbusch is a person who makes huge claims for Albier (saying it has a longer history than technically possible, etc) and when I get home I'll look in a couple of his books that I have and see if I can find something interesting that might be added for balance. If you have any sources that you know of that might add something new, that would be helpful as well. Regards SilkTork *SilkyTalk 15:54, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm home, and I've checked Dornbusch's "Prost!" and a couple of websites, and updated Altbier#History with the information I've gathered. Alts from Hannover tend to include some darker malts in the grist, and alts from Munster use a proportion of wheat, but pale malt is a defining and characteristic feature of altbier according to the sources I've looked at. I'd be interested in looking at sources you can direct me to which suggest that Altbier doesn't use pale malts and discussing it further with you. Regards. SilkTork *SilkyTalk 20:16, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism Removal

As I said to Taemyr I appreciate his advice and opinion and I'm sorry if I caused any problems; i should have looked more thoroughly at the edit history... PookeyMaster (talk) 03:10, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 11 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Transcontinental Motor Convoy, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri (talk) 15:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Champagne in popular culture

Excellent work on adding the sourcing to the Cristal (champagne) article. After reading your addition, I do think that more can be expanded on the association of Champagne in Hip Hop culture. If you get an opportunity, would you look over at the Champagne in popular culture article and consider helping in developing a section on the Hip Hop links. I've added a DYK nom about the article mentioning the link. Appreciate your time and again, great work on Cristal. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 05:24, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Redbach

I have just heard that Redbach is no longer being imported into the U.S. Do you know whether it's still being brewed? Robert Greer (talk) 21:25, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK nom

Hi. I've nominated Republic of Lakota, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created/expanded on December 29, where you can improve it if you see fit.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 18:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

RE Lakota/State Dept Letter

I am not sure where I could put it. I think I still have it, but it literally was only a sentence or two long. Plus its from the State Dept. so I would assume that media inquiries may be PD. DragonFire1024 (talk) 10:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I can forward you the mail and you guys can use it or what not. Just let me know where to send it or post it etc. DragonFire1024 (talk) 18:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Well the e-mail is in a separate accont from WMF...so I need to forward it to an address because I don't have it downloaded on my computer. DragonFire1024 (talk) 19:44, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok I sent it. Let me know where you add it an such so I can see the end result. I like seeing my work put to good use :-) DragonFire1024 (talk) 19:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Good job and I am glad to have been able to help. I hope we can work like this again in the future! :) DragonFire1024 (talk) 01:02, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok let me know what ya hear if anything .I will do the same :) DragonFire1024 (talk) 02:02, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Republic of Lakotah

Personally, I think it's a really crappy yet honest attempt at succession. Also, the way it was worded made it sound like micronation is a synonym for unrecognized state. Zazaban (talk) 01:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Otley brewing.png

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Invitation

Hello there

I see you are interested in the Life On Mars Television Series, as I am.

At the moment I have A Life On Mars Wikiproject currently up for approval by the Wikiproject Approval Council. As you are interested in Life On Mars I was wondering if you would be interested in adding your name and joining. If you are interested you can find it on Wikipedia: WikiProject Council/Proposals its right at the very bottom you cant miss it as its titled ‘Wikipedia: Wikiproject Life on Mars (Television Series)’. And after your name is added to Wikiproject propsals please add it to the main page Wikipedia:Wikiproject Life On Mars

If you are interested by all means feel free to join

Regards

Police,Mad,Jack —Preceding comment was added at 20:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK

Hey, this was put on my talk page, but not on yours. Perhaps I malformed my nomination somehow. Anyways, I figured I'd foward it along. Cheers! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 22:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

On 4 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Republic of Lakotah, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Are you calling me a Troll?

I dont think you should give away warnings when you self makes personal attacks calling me a troll, at least I provide sources for my claims, that more that anyone could accuse Stalinist-bob for. A minimum demand for aggresiv editing like the one S-bob does is at least to have at least one source. My confidence in you and your actions just dropped about 100% after this remark who ill consider a personal attack. I supose you will be glad if ill withdrew and left the aricle to the Russian nationalstic- and Stalin lover bunch?--Posse72 (talk) 23:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

A note about redirects

interwiki redirects do not seem to work and I have noticed your Wikinews talk page has an interwiki redirect to this page. An alternative would be to post a message saying post messages on your Wikipeida talk page. Another option would be to have an interwiki link in your user page as that is how most users will get to your talk page from a link in your signature --Smallbig/Anonymous101 on Wikinews 08:57, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

You have got to be...

...the BIGGEST assumer-of-good-faith EVER. If I'd seen an edit like "Between 1988 and 1992 Pingu served as Vice-President of Iraq" with the edit summary of "minor correction spelling", I would have warned the HECK out of that user. Misleading edit summary, clearly unserious edit...Your restraint in giving him only a test1 warning is remarkable. :) Gladys J Cortez 21:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Adding links

You remove web page links, yet there are already personal web page links. It appears that you favor certain sites over others.