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==Another portal==
Hi, could you please look at the message I left recently at
[[User_talk:Mzajac#Ukrainian_portal_for_WP]]. Have a great holiday weekend! [[User:Irpen|Irpen]] 20:50, May 27, 2005 (UTC)
:I like it. Good job on it. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 03:07, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

==Hahaha.. I just noticed==
We have the same birthday! [[User:CryptoDerk|CryptoDerk]] 06:45, May 28, 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 03:04, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

==Style Vote on Benedict page and Archive==

Dear Zscout,
since you started the "alternative" style vote on the Benedict page, that runs out today...
May I ask you, after the vote is closed and you have summarized the results properly, to archive the preceding talk (and other questions that are settled), since the talk page is already exceedingly big at 85 kilobytes.
I didn't want to spoil the vote, hence the question.
Thanks
[[User:Str1977|Str1977]] 15:37, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, no problem. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 15:39, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have expressed my question more clearly. But now I did the archive (Archive # 9)myself (until now without the vote).
Thanks anyway.
[[User:Str1977|Str1977]] 16:11, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

BTW: What does "Sound off" mean?
[[User:Str1977|Str1977]] 16:25, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
:Sound off is a military term. When a drill instructor tells his Marines to "sound off," they responding to his commands by shouting. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 16:31, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

==Russian Portal==

Hi there, Zscout370! I noticed that you are trying to revive the Russian COTW board and I really appreciate your effort. This whole Russian Portal thing is a good idea, but we have to make it viable. I've been trying to keep it alive before, but somehow people just lost interest for some reason, even though I managed to "recruit" a lot of contributors. Do you have any ideas on how to keep it going? And why are you interested in Russia in the first place? Just asking out of curiosity. Talk to you later. [[User:KNewman|KNewman]] 20:33, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
:From what I was told, the way portals work is that we put a notice on the main [[Russia]] article (which I have done so). Then, we and the other users/readers can look at it and start making contributions. It should work better than a Project, since many people who want to start on Russian articles have a way to do it. But your welcome on the kind message. To answer your other question, I started to study Russia in Grade 6 and it has continued ever since. I mainly study Russian symbols and also politics of Russia and the former USSR. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 21:39, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

==User page protection==
I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be ok to do that - you seem to be a bit of a vandal-magnet! [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 01:19, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, so if you can, please lock it now, umless I need to go through proper channels. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 01:24, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
::Done. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 01:42, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
:::Sweet. Thanks. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 01:44, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

== Arbitration Committee case opening ==

[[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/KaintheScion et al.]] has been accepted and is now open. Please bring evidence to [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/KaintheScion et al./Evidence]]. Thank you. -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 18:44, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 18:58, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

== BoNM again ==

Hey Zach. I just saw what you were talking about. This seems to revolve around Slav countries, and Halibutt just may be the main factor causing this. For now, I feel that we should remove yet again the "national variants" section, but this time add some sort of header to the page (similar to a disambiguation header, maybe), or maybe just add a paragraph to the award description section of the page, letting people know that there will be no "national variations" of the wiki award. We need to be succint in the image page, longer explanations can be given in the talk page. What I understand is that we cannot roll over with this. This issue was specifically addressed in the early stages of the creation of the BoNM. If we let this stuff go, not only it may yet get out of control, with countless national variants, but also we'd be testifying that our Barnstar creation forum is a big waste of time, if overenthusiatic users can to overrule our (rather long sometimes) discussions over there. We should try to include the point: if anyone wants to create "national variants" of the BoNM, they can, but this will not be a wiki award, and in such condition, it will not be listed in a wiki award page. It would be whoever-created-it-and-his-clique private thing. I'll see if I can come up with this explanation. Drop by and tell me what you think about it. Still, we'll need to monitor the page and see what happens. Your friend, [[User:Redux|Redux]] 22:30, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
:I also dropped a note at Czalex's page, who was offered to take the Belarusian variant. I know that you feel upset at this situation, but I just think it is out of my control. I will be gone for a while, and I know things will go to hell in a handbasket. I was out for just a few days and so much happened, I had to spend about an hour to catch up. Well, remove the section, I will ask Halibutt to userfy the BoNM variants and I will see what else happens. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 22:40, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

I have already removed the "national variants" section and added a paragraph addressing the issue, as well as an explanation in the talk page. Of course, I realize that most users will not be aware that a discussion took place before the creation of the award, and that a consensus was reached that especifically rejected the prospect of country-centric awards as wiki awards. Ideally, this will be solved with those latest entries, but we can never be entirely sure. This entire issue seems to have been created because of only one user's overenthusiasm (and nationalistic drive...). But as I said, we cannot have something like this nullify was has been agreed upon in the Barnstars forum, or else we're wasting our time over there.</br>The positive side to all of this is seeing that the BoNM has become quite popular. I can't help but feel a certain pride about it, especially when you see that most new awards end up forgotten by the community.</br>I take the opportunity to wish you good luck moving. I hope you get back soon too, since, as you said, some stuff just go to hell in a split second when we take our eyes off it for some time. But that's to be expected in Wikipedia. I've been following the statistics, and it seems like we get about 200 new registered users every 24 hours or so. Can you imagine that? 200 new editors poking around every day, and who-knows-how-many anons also editing at will. I just feel that very little in the project is under any kind of control in this context, and it gets more and more chaotic by the day. Well, the best we can do is hold on to our hats and make the best of it &mdash; and in some cases, such as this one, we just have to keep our cool and try to keep things on track, as much as possible. Good luck moving, again. Your friend, [[User:Redux|Redux]] 23:04, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
:I am glad that I had a hand in creating the BoNM and I am glad it took off very greatly. Thanks for the kind words, and I am sure that if we talk to Hallibutt, we should be fine. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 23:09, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Let us hope Halibutt does agree with our point. I've had experiences both ways. Btw, I liked Death's idea to add the name of the country for which the user is being recognized in the list of Recipients. It goes a long way to help visualize the distribution of the award per country. [[User:Redux|Redux]] 23:17, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
:So that was why I went ahead and added the countries of each person awarded. But I am still glad the award is very popular, and I also agree with you, the Barnstar creation page is pretty much done, since I think everyone has moved on from that page onto other stuff. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 23:19, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, about the Barnstars forum, I'd really like to rekindle that. I feel that the reason why people lost faith (which you're right, has happened) is because the multiple discussions became too much for us to handle. Discussions were (and are, in a way) dragging on forever, nothing got done, and people are just too busy to keep at it for too long without seing results. I'll see if I can do something about it. [[User:Redux|Redux]] 23:44, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
:I want to vote on some proposials before talking about new ones. Plus, I think we are good with the many awards we got. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 23:52, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

==Your reverts on Cold War==
The image of the Berlin War should go along with an image representing the Cold War in Asia. As it is the article is very Western-centric. Also, I don't understand your reversions to my edits in the intro and "characteristics" section, which make more sections more informative. [[User:NEW WORLD ORDER|NEW WORLD ORDER]] 15:57, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Your same edits had been reverted before by another user. One, we do not know who coined the term.
::I changed the word "coined" to populairzed. Bernard Baruch was definitely the one who popularized it. [[User:NEW WORLD ORDER|NEW WORLD ORDER]] 16:28, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Two, it wasn't just the USSR and the USA.
::I'll change my version accordingly. [[User:NEW WORLD ORDER|NEW WORLD ORDER]] 16:28, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Three, the My Lai picture is more suited at the Vietnam War page, since that details an event in the Vietnam War. I believe it should be placed there instead of the Cold War page.
::By the same logic, why not move the Berlin Wall image to the page on the Berlin Wall? If a picture is going to represent the Cold War in Europe, another should represent the Cold War in the Third World. We should keep both or remove both. [[User:NEW WORLD ORDER|NEW WORLD ORDER]] 16:28, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The version you have talked about mainly the US CIA interventions inside several nations, without any mention of the the KGB at all.
::Ah, that's because there were no KGB-led military coups. There were the Soviet invasions of Czechoslovakia and Afghanistan, but that's it, and they're mentioned. Further, that sentence is hardly a comprehensive list of Cold War conflicts, just a few examples. And there's no reason to throw out the few extra examples that I added. [[User:NEW WORLD ORDER|NEW WORLD ORDER]] 16:28, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
That is what me and the other person has, is that because your version is not NPOV.
::My version is NPOV to the extent the history itself was NPOV. [[User:NEW WORLD ORDER|NEW WORLD ORDER]] 16:28, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
That was why we had the paragraph with "much of it was conducted by or against surrogates and through spies and traitors who were working undercover," since it covers both the KGB and the CIA and other unknown groups. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 16:04, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::I removed that sentence because, by that point in the article, that fact had already been established. [[User:NEW WORLD ORDER|NEW WORLD ORDER]] 16:28, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The other photo that was added is OK, but I will not be surprised if others came around and edited some of the text. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 16:34, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Thanks, I hope==
A Barnstar is a good thing I hope. I am working on the Untagged Images project and many untagged images are orphans so I say "get 'em outta here."
:Yes, it is a good thing. I hope that if I do chose to become an admin, I can give the admins a help out at the deletion of the various images. With the new image policy, they must have a lot of work to do now. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 17:21, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==IFD Help - I don't get it==
If these are known orphans, why can't they be deleted in one swoop? If not, what can I do with this list to help with IFD? Thanks -- [[User:Nv8200p|Nv8200p]] 20:44, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Just list those on IFD (at your own pace) and we can start clearing off that list. I will try myself and see how that works. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 20:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Papal tiara==

I know. I'm really chuffed. I know I'm biased but I think it is a really good article. Writing it really got me thinking about the whole area of state ritual and ceremonial. I have spent the last week working on linked articles on crowns, and am also researching a piece about Vatican ritual. I could never have imagined that when I came on to Wikipedia I would end up writing about crowns!!! (Or even more astonishingly, that I would end up as with a few nights ago writing a major article on Irish 1960s and 1970s soap opera ''[[The Riordans]]''!) I was planning when I came to wikipedia first to focus on 19th century British and Irish history. Oh the wonders of the wiki!!! :-)
:I mainly came to the Wiki to work on flag related articles, and also created an article on my college. Well, I pretty much cordinate the pages on Belarus (hence the Belarusian cabal quote on my user page). I also been drawing military ribbons, got pulled into edit wars and pretty much sold my soul to here (unless my girlfriend wants the other half of it). :) [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 15:19, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==BSA Opinions==

Good sir, your opinions would be most welcome on my comments recently posted to [[Order of the Arrow]] (popularity contest issue) and [[Boy Scouts of America]] (bullying of younger scouts in the 80s). Indeed, you remind me quite well of the more mature scouts I knew. A shame there were some that were not so immature. P.S.- Can I become a [[User:Zscout370#Wikifriends|Wikifriend]]? I would be honored. -[[User:Husnock|Husnock]] 00:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Sure. My user page is locked now, but I am building a list at [[User:Zscout370/Misc]]. Yes, I agree, the OA elections have become a popularity contest. I have been selected twice, but elected not to go. In 2004, when I was up for OA election, I said to my scout master to not put me on the ballot. Plus, nearly every scout who is able to go for it is elected, so being in the OA is almost something that you expect to see after a while. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 00:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== tfd ==

[[User:SimonP]] is up to his old tricks over templates and categories. He has now proposed deleting [[:Template:Crowns]] on the template for deletion page.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion] Going by his past antics on [[:Category:Westminster System]][http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Irish_Leader_of_the_Opposition&diff=13853691&oldid=13849832] and [[:Template:Commonwealth Realms]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:United_Kingdom#Templates] he's trying to delete a template that pulls all the articles on the topic together, then he'll start subcategorising all the articles and we'll end up with a complicated, user-unfriendly mess of a category. Your opinions and observations would be welcome. <font color="#006666">'''Fear'''<font color="#FF6600">'''''ÉIREANN'''''[[Image:Ireland flag large.png|25px]]\<font color=blue><sup>[[user_talk:Jtdirl|(talk)]]</sup><font color=black> 21:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I just need to look at a few things before I comment on it. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 21:23, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Call to Action==
''Whereas,'' much good [[discussion]] and work has previously occured on the [[WP:BAP|Barnstar and award proposal page]],

''Whereas,'' the level of discussion and progress on the abovementioned page has dropped to a record level of none; no constructive commments have been made on existing [[award]]s since [[May 17]], [[2005]],

''Whereas,'' many "Vote or Die!" have been left open, namely two, as a result of this lack of discussion,

''Whereas,'' nine [[proposal]]s lie untouched by [[Wikipedian]] hands,

''Whereas,'' you have previously commented and helped on the abovementioned page,

'''''Therefore''''', I, who have absolutely no command in ordering this whatsoever, instruct you, {{PAGENAME}}, to return to the [[barnstar]] commitment and further the creation of Wikipedian awards; vote liberally and spread your constructive comments.

(Signed)
Cmd. [[User:Bratsche|<font color="#006666">Bratsche</font>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Bratsche|<font color="#FF6600">talk</font>]] [[WP:5P|<font color="#333333">5 pillars</font>]]</sup> of the Barnstarium Army, 03:08, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
:I will see what I can do. I will try to instruct people to not suggest new awards until we get the ones we have now cleared out of the way. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 16:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Template:ISO ==

You expressed interest in an ISO flag template: [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Flag_Template#ISO_template]] ([[User:SEWilco|SEWilco]] 06:23, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC))

==swastika==

Hi, could you explain why you changed the Nazi swastika on the [[Swastika]] page? The new asymmetrical one seems on the face of it less appealing and less accurate than the earlier symmetrical image. [[User:Paul Barlow|Paul B]] 18:29, 9 June 2005 (UTC)
:I was replacing that image with one which is located on the Wikipedia Commons. Once I did that, it made the previous image an orphan, which I later placed on [[WP:IFD]]. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 18:56, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Complaint ==

I'm really dissatified to your interrupting deletion without previous notification, not to mention the "vandalism" you've made in the template. That's really offensive. No official rules are stated that animated gifs cannot be implemented in templates. Now I'm going to revert the template, and please make a sensible justification next time, thinking twice, before your action.
-- [[User:Mcy jerry|Jerry Crimson Mann]] 21:22, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:One: as for the notification, see [[User_talk:Mcy_jerry#Image:Hkicon.gif]].
:Two: The image I am using is currently being used on all Wikimedia projects, including ours.
[[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 21:29, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::Well, that means it's not a matter of animation, but unification, right? -- [[User:Mcy jerry|Jerry Crimson Mann]] 21:43, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::: Yes. Of course, if you want to use the animated image on your user page, thats fine. But until I find out what is going on with animated images used for templates, I will not edit the template. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 21:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Do you mean that animated templates are not a problem? -- [[User:Mcy jerry|Jerry Crimson Mann]] 21:54, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::I don't understand the relevance of the ''animation'' aspect of the image to the template. Surely Hong Kong's flag isn't inherently animated in that way. Aside from that, I find the animation distracting and annoying. I could deal with it if there were some purpose to the animation, but is there? I certainly have never see anything like it in any other template, though I doubt it ever needed to be formally discouraged for it to be uncommon. What was wrong with the [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Hong-Kong-stub&oldid=14810953 version] that just had the actual flag? [[User:HorsePunchKid|<span style="font-family: monospace; font-variant: small-caps;">HorsePunchKid</span>]]&rarr;[[User talk:HorsePunchKid|<span style="color: #070;">&#x9F9C;</span>]] 22:19, 2005 Jun 9 (UTC)
:::::You may say that, HPK. But my point is the whole thinis is just like a conspiracy. He deleted it, he made it orphaned, he dumped it into the deletion page....just a through-train and no more!
:::::Of course flags won't brandish that way; that's an icon, mind you. I wonder what can distract you if you're really paying a degree of attention to the article you're reading. A stub, in this case, can make itself even more eye-catching to show it itself is in fact a puny malnourished handicapped pitiful stub, asking for further constructive postive healthy improvement in the wikipedia community. --[[User:Mcy jerry|Jerry Crimson Mann]] 22:28, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::Drop the conspiracy theory: I regularlly place images on IFD, especially now. As for the eyecatchingness of it, I am not going to debate it. We have a few days for the image to be debated about and see what happens. Plus, that is the way I deal with images: if it is orphaned, it goes on IFD. If I find a better version, I replace the old image and then place it on IFD. More later, I need a break now. As for you, HPK, if you wish to revert to a previous version, fine by me. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 23:22, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::It's like a conspiracy, but I don't mean it's exactly one dirty plot. I'm not very happy with your speediness...just too fast and unreachable. So you must be very confident with every deletion of yours, otherwise time must be needed for relentless argument and consensus. Extremely heart-broken now...needa rest, having no mood to speak daggers in the debate. I won't care about the fate of the pic, I hope. - [[User:Mcy jerry|Jerry Crimson Mann]] 23:43, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Help with [[:Image:moon.gif]] ==

Hello, I am trying to restore the ifd tag to this image, however, I have reverted it twice and will not have an opportunity to restore it again until at least Sunday. Could you please help? Thank you. [[User:Y0u|You]] 01:09, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)
:I will see what I can do, but I will be on the road this weekend. Though, I do think that we should remove this image from all pages so once (if) it is deleted, then the pages will not be messed up. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 20:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Hong Kong-stub ==

I had to revert it quite some way back. Every time I tried to open up the template or any article containing the template, my browser crashed. it was only when reading Mcy jerry's usertalk page that I found out it was because of an animation. There are good reasons why very few of them are used on Wikipedia! [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 08:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Well, if you wish to read my commnets above about the same image, which I placed on [[WP:IFD]] after I removed it from the template. Once I did so, it became an orphan. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 20:57, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== 48 star flag ==

You could follow the '''_flag_large.png''' pattern in most flags. ([[User:SEWilco|SEWilco]] 04:02, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC))
* us_1912_flag_large.png
* us_48_stars_flag_large_.png
* us_48_states_flag_large.png

**Most flag files are named Flag of Country X. I think I will rename the image Flag of the United States (1912). [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 22:34, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

*** ''Articles'' about flags are "Flag of &hellip;". Flag files end with "_flag_large.png". Compare a [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=Flag+of+&namespace=6 search for Images from "Flag of"] to [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Template%3APD-flag "What links here" Template:PD-flag]. ([[User:SEWilco|SEWilco]] 00:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC))
****I am changing that. I have placed several flags on IFD and new flag images are being drawn by me and others. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 02:05, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***** Why not upload new images to the same names, to replace existing images? Existing links would still work, so it would seem to save a lot of effort. You're also inviting confusion by using such similar names, despite being in different namespaces. ([[User:SEWilco|SEWilco]] 03:59, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC))
****** Most flag images, as you said, are Country X flag large. We do not have small and medium size images of the flag, so I just see there is no use to have the file name as Country X flag lagre. Yes, it is a lot of hard work, but I usually let folks know that the image has been renamed and been relocated. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 21:00, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
******* Template_country_flag_alias_* has been populated, using images in [[United Nations member states]]. The "shortname" array is now being populated, so most countries will be ready for use within a day. ([[User:SEWilco|SEWilco]] 00:49, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC))

== Medal of Honor ==
Yes, the lead is adequate now. Tnx. Article can reapply for FA at any time, but if you want to have it removed, you have to visit [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_removal_candidates]] first. I don't think it is bad enough to warrant removal, but then I know little about the issue except what is in the article itself. One more technical note - external links should be removed from main body, preferably moved to notes/references and linked with [[Wikipedia:Footnotes]]. Btw, you may want to take a look at [[Wikipedia:Peer_review/Virtuti_Militari]] - it's an article quite similar to MoH. --[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]] <sup>[[User_talk:Piotrus|Talk]]</sup> 10:34, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks. I will try and do that. I created [[Hero of Belarus]], another medal article that has been promoted to FA status. I know there are things I took from the MoH article and used for the HoB article, but I can look at the Virtuti Miliaria article and see what yall have there. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 21:02, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Fonzie Fan ==
Sandbox again - and this time {{user|Fonzie Fan}} is not just a harmless guy playing in the sand. Check out his sockpuppet accounts, all of which have disgusting offensive names:
* {{user|Coprophagiac}}
* {{user|TheSatanicChorusOfChicago}}
* {{user|TheSatanicBrotherhoodOfPhoenix}}
* {{user|SatansBestFriend(666, baby!)}}
* {{user|ChristiansForTheAnti-Christ}}
* {{user|GayLesbian&TransgenderSatanists}}

The edit summaries are crazy and he keeps placing in nonsense. Although you're not an admin, I need your opinion on [[wp:lvip]] (long-term alerts), section "Sandbox semi-troll." Fonzie Fan is not what he used to be. &mdash; [[User:Stevey7788|Stevey7788]] ([[User talk:Stevey7788|talk]]) 23:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I quit watching the Sandbox, but you can go ahead and report the socks to the [[WP:AN/I]]. You can also comment about the offensive username too. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 23:38, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Order of Canada ==

I have also been trying to find the history of the Order. What I have found so far is that [[John Matheson]] designed the medal and was involved in creating the Order. Take a look at this [http://archives.cbc.ca/IDCC-1-73-80-757/politics_economy/canada_flag/ CBC link] (it has a segment about him). Let me know if you need any help for this article. I am a big fan of the Order of Canada and I have been working to add articels for all of the Companions. --[[User:YUL89YYZ|YUL89YYZ]] 15:51, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
:And Matheson was the same person who had a hand in creating the Canadian flag? If so, wow. Well, I have been making and working on medal articles. I have been trying to make a few become Featured Articles and that is my main goal. We should have a section on the creation and the first appointments. We should mention Matheson, and a bunch of other things. We could also trim down the list of the various people who received which order, put them on a whole new article or list. Thanks a bunch for working with me on this article. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 18:34, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Another Answer ==
You asked: "''How does the BoW work?"''.
Detailed information on how BoW works can be found [[User:Bank_of_Wikipedia/Bank_Rules|here]] . Read our rules, and in case you want an account in our bank feel free to ask it in our [[User_talk:Bank of Wikipedia|talk]] page. [[User:Bank of Wikipedia|Bank of Wikipedia]] 06:00, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I will think about it. Thanks for setting it up. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 13:54, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
==Portal question==
Hi Zach. Looks like RU-portal is active. I am very glad to notice that. I need your help. Recently several Wikipedians got together to make a Ukraine Wikiportal. We didn't move it yet to its final destination at [[Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Ukraine]]. As of now it sits in my userspace at [[User:Irpen/uawp]]. There is one remaining problem: the "edit" buttons at templates' right-hand upper corner don't appear in some browsers, particularly in "classical skin" settings. They are seen in Opera, harldy seen in Netscape and not seen at all at MSIE. I would appreciate if you have time to look at it. Thanks! -[[User:Irpen|Irpen]] 04:54, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
:Change the link color and that is it. I can see it and I am using IE, but barely. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 13:46, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::Try "classic skin" in your WP settings. Then you would barely some in the left columns but nothing at all in the right-hand columns. -[[User:Irpen|Irpen]]
:::Hmm.. I will try that later, but that is probably why the Wiki is using this skin instead of any others. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 19:08, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, but some people use "classic", so we need to fix this. Of course feel free to fix it yourself, if you have time. I am rather ignorant when it comes to page design. Cheers, -[[User:Irpen|Irpen]] 19:12, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
:I could try, but I am stuck fixing [[Order of Canada]] right now. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 00:58, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== [[:Image:Hkicon.gif]] ==

If the image is still orphaned, then may I ask why was the image kept. The orphan issue was why I listed the image on IFD in the first place. Also, I hope the creator of the image still does not think I am running a conspiracy here. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 03:02, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Well, there were a few objections to deleting. Since images can't be undeleted, the instructions in the second paragraph at [[WP:IFD]] are very conservative.

:[[User:Mcy jerry]]'s contribution to that discussion was pretty hilarious! By the way, I really appreciate the work you've been doing tidying up images. Thanks! [[User:Dbenbenn|dbenbenn]] | [[User talk:Dbenbenn|talk]] 06:26, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Your welcome. I know there was one other objection to the deletion, so I tried to satisfy his comment by positing the link about animated images in stub templates. There, it was a consensus it was a bad idea. [[IMHO]], I would not mind seeing the stub icons being tossed from here. Makes my job easier. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 13:45, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Do you think it will be ok to place the image at IFD again, since it has not been used since it has been removed from the templates? [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 03:09, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Yep. [[User:Dbenbenn|dbenbenn]] | [[User talk:Dbenbenn|talk]] 03:40, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::I placed it there now, and a notice on the uploader's talk page. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 03:44, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Unprotect==
Done. Any more thoughts about me nominating you for admin yet? :) [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 19:33, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Still don't want it. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 20:53, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Barnstar and award proposal page ==

Hey, Zscout. Substituting lengthy discussions with templates on the [[WP:BAP]] page was very clever, but I'm not sure what happened to some image galleries. For the Bot Barnstar, this text

<nowiki><gallery></nowiki><br>
<nowiki>Image:Barnstarbot.png|1. Dot Matrix Barnstar (Bastique)</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>Image:BotBarnstar.png|2. Circuit Board Barnstar (Zscout370)</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>Image:BotBarnstar2.png|3. Circuit Board Barnstar 2 (Zscout370)</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>Image:BotBarnstar3.png|4. Circuit Board Barnstar, 3-D w/out background (Sango123)</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>Image:BotBarnstar4.png|5. BSD Daemon barnstar (Sango123)</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>Image:BarnstarBotState.png|6. Barnstar Bot State (SEWilco)</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>Image:BarnstarBotState2.png|7. Barnstar Bot State2 (SEWilco)</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>Image:Barnstar daemon1.png|8. BSD Daemon barnstar with shoes (AllyUnion)</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>Image:Barnstar daemon2.png|9. BSD Daemon barnstar without shoes (AllyUnion)</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>Image:Tux Barnstar.png|10. Tux barnstar (AllyUnion)</nowiki><br>
<nowiki></gallery></nowiki>

became "NaodW29-gallery5e6f8b922a9f664000000001".

The Wikimedal of Contribution/Featured Article Barnstar and Spoken Barnstar image galleries have become "NaodW29-gallery18966b1a3adb24850000000" and "NaodW29-gallery5e6f8b922a9f664000000002", respectively.

However, The Resilient Barnstar image gallery is unaffected (because the gallery isn't at the beginning of the discussion?). Maybe it's just me, or maybe [[:Image:Barnstarmy.jpg|Barney-star]] has come for revenge, but could you take a look to see if anything's wrong?

Thanks, <font color="#3D9140">[[User:Sango123|Sango]]</font><font color="#006400">[[User talk:Sango123|123]]</font> 19:13, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
:I seen that problem before, but I am not sure how to fix it. I will see what I can do. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 21:12, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::It worked fine when I checked it. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 21:13, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Yep, everything works perfectly now. <font color="#3D9140">[[User:Sango123|Sango]]</font><font color="#006400">[[User talk:Sango123|123]]</font> 23:16, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
::::I am glad it does. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 00:46, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==[[User:Cantors]] Oops==
Well, thank you very much for fixing my stupid oversight of not adding my sig to a comment all about sigs! And, also thank you for being so considerate as to go back and make it seem otherwise. I'll be ''watching'' you. ;-) [[User:Hydnjo|hydnjo]] [[User talk:Hydnjo|talk]] 01:37, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks. I watch that one VFD, since I was involved in one similar VFD. I am tempted to ask and see if their pages can be "shot on sight," but I do not know if it can be done. Also, it seems like a coordinated effort, and this is starting to get tiring. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 01:43, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::It clearly ''is'' a coordinated effort. After seeing a few of these in my short time here, it would seem that the best strategy is to answer with cordial responses. They become confused by all of the civility that we provide. And, there's more of us than them! And, since ''they'' do not have the commitment to this project that ''we'' do, they seem to fade away into their other lives after a while. Patience wins. ;-) [[User:Hydnjo|hydnjo]] [[User talk:Hydnjo|talk]] 02:01, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::I bluntly told the Annons they are wasting our time with the mess. I think everyone else is tired of this stuff. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 02:03, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::Let them develop callus' on their fingertips. Don't take it personally. Check in once a day or so to make a statement about their latest rant. If you try to keep up with a ''coordinated effort'' well then your fingertips will also become sore. Depend on the community to smush this kind of behavior. You don't have to do it by yourself. There are lots of remedies. Patience wins. ;-) [[User:Hydnjo|hydnjo]] [[User talk:Hydnjo|talk]] 02:16, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::I think many people are reverting their efforts, but I hope it does end soon. I suggest people should list pages that are affected by this group effort. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 02:21, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Re:Admin questions==
Hi Zach - okay, I can understand that. I think you ''would'' make a good admin, even if only for the reason that you'd have access to tools which would help the work you already do, but your reasons are understandable, so I won't push it. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 06:33, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I have no idea if it is even possible to get just the tools and try not to get involved in every dispute that happens on here. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 23:30, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==[[Wikipedia:Mind Benders]]==
Hello! I've noticed your interest in creating logos, barnstars, or your past artistic ability! Thus, I just wanted to let you know that the pre-round, an artistic competition, is now open at [[Wikipedia:Mind Benders]] (Shortcut: [[WP:MIND]])! The competition is open to everyone and is seeking a logo/trophy, similar to Barnstars, to be placed on every winner's page. We urge you to help us out and submit an entry! Afterwards, the normal rounds, each consisting of ten or more fun, logical, brain-stimulating questions will open. Why don't you give it a try when it opens! Look forward to seeing your contribution. Thanks, [[User:Flcelloguy|Flcelloguy]] |<small> [[User talk:Flcelloguy|A <font color = brown> note? ]]</font color>| [[User:Flcelloguy/Desk|Desk </small>]] 21:53, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I got some ideas in mind, but I am house hunting tomorrow. I am finally in California, plus, my family wants to use this one and only laptop we have. My idea so far: it is golden, with the brain on top, the middle section is a W and a base on the bottom. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 23:27, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Order of Canada ==

Just wondering, if your an American, why are you so interested in the Order of Canada ? (You are doing a great job with it BTW)
:Been interested in Canadian topics. Plus, I have been working on other medal related articles. Plus, I got a Canadian girlfriend (she lives in Brantford, Ont.).

BTW : John Mathison chaired the committee for the creation of the Canadian Flag. He did not design it
:Ok.

Also: The Order of Canada site used to have an FAQ section with questions like "Can muliple people get the Order for the same Deed" and the answer way "Yes. This year several Members of the Rock group RUSH recived the Order." However, this apears to no longer be active :( [[User:Dowew|Dowew]] 02:32, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I made the changes. We should put a note on the article about it, unless it has been done already. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 03:26, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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