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:Actually, the above is one of the numerous sockpuppets of the article's creator - [[User:Melissadolbeer]] - see the user's edit history, and [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Melissadolbeer]] for details. The article in question is Melissadolbeer's original research based on an account by [[Jerome]] which is almost universally considered to be an error confusing 3 different gospels ([[Gospel of the Nazarenes]], [[Gospel of the Hebrews]], and [[Gospel of the Ebionites]]). It also contains material presenting [[Eusebius]]'s views of what was [[Biblical Canon]] - better discussed at those two articles, and the entire source text of the alleged Gospel, which is otherwise almost universally split into the 3 seperate texts above. The source text was already on WikiSource, and what was salvagable from the remainder of the article was merged to the above 5 articles, and [[Gospel of Matthew]], at the suggestion of [[User:Wetman]]. It exists only to support Melissadolbeer's original research thesis. Melissadolbeer's claims of recieving abuse from me, 81.156.177.21, doc, Slrubenstien, Wetman, etc. (whom Melissadolbeer claims to be sockpuppets of one-another) are simply down to the fact that we have at one time or another merged the article elsewhere leaving only a redirect, or have voted to delete it at VFD. The above comment by the sockpuppet has been pasted by it into a vast number of user pages, an act which essentially constitutes excessive disruption to Wikipedia, simply because Melissadolbeer refuses to abide by the process of VFD. [[User:-Ril-|<nowiki>~~</nowiki><nowiki>~~</nowiki>]] 19:21, 15 July 2005 (UTC) |
:Actually, the above is one of the numerous sockpuppets of the article's creator - [[User:Melissadolbeer]] - see the user's edit history, and [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Melissadolbeer]] for details. The article in question is Melissadolbeer's original research based on an account by [[Jerome]] which is almost universally considered to be an error confusing 3 different gospels ([[Gospel of the Nazarenes]], [[Gospel of the Hebrews]], and [[Gospel of the Ebionites]]). It also contains material presenting [[Eusebius]]'s views of what was [[Biblical Canon]] - better discussed at those two articles, and the entire source text of the alleged Gospel, which is otherwise almost universally split into the 3 seperate texts above. The source text was already on WikiSource, and what was salvagable from the remainder of the article was merged to the above 5 articles, and [[Gospel of Matthew]], at the suggestion of [[User:Wetman]]. It exists only to support Melissadolbeer's original research thesis. Melissadolbeer's claims of recieving abuse from me, 81.156.177.21, doc, Slrubenstien, Wetman, etc. (whom Melissadolbeer claims to be sockpuppets of one-another) are simply down to the fact that we have at one time or another merged the article elsewhere leaving only a redirect, or have voted to delete it at VFD. The above comment by the sockpuppet has been pasted by it into a vast number of user pages, an act which essentially constitutes excessive disruption to Wikipedia, simply because Melissadolbeer refuses to abide by the process of VFD. [[User:-Ril-|<nowiki>~~</nowiki><nowiki>~~</nowiki>]] 19:21, 15 July 2005 (UTC) |
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::To Mikefar - I have looked at the matter previously, I don't know enough to intervene. To -Ril- - Although I know nothing about this topic (which would make me well qualified to edit it) I disagree with your belief that you should only edit articles on topics about which you are ignorant. [[User:Guettarda|Guettarda]] 00:13, 16 July 2005 (UTC) |
Revision as of 00:13, 16 July 2005
Archives: Archive 1 (August 29, 2004-March 3, 2005) - Archive 2 (March 11, 2005-March 28, 2005) - Archive 3 (March 28, 2005-April 17, 2005) - Archive 4 (March 20, 2005-June 6, 2005) - Archive 5 (June 6, 2005-July 4, 2005)
Thank you for protecting the page to avoid this user (66.36.136.123)'s vandalism. We are sorry about violating the 3 revert rule though. -- Mike Garcia | talk 23:53, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)
No worries on the block. These disputes tend to get very out of control, so I think you did the right thing. When it is discussed and decided upon, feel free to update that infobox, or let me know and I will do it. Thanks again! Cbing01 (talk) 00:06, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
mesmerize
I know nothing about the subject of the article (I did a 10 second google search to aquire those links), but I'd like to see mike garcia not get banned. Ergo, I'd prefer the page stay protected for awhile. ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸ 01:26, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Caribbean Wikipedians
I like your idea, count me in. Here are some other Caribbean Wikipedians whom I believe would also be interested. Wrote to them and tell them I sent you. They are: Cjrs 79, Joseph,<<Coburn Pharr>> and User:AntonioMartin, Let's keep in touch. Tony the Marine 1 July 2005 00:45 (UTC)
- Count me in1 Hey, thanks for inviting me. I love everything and everyone Caribbean and Latin American. What country are you from? I originated the article Deaths in Ciudad Juarez, and a person e-mailed me in an insulting way telling me since Im Puerto Rican I shouldn't care about Mexico, which, by the way, geographically speaking is also a Caribbean country by way of Cancun and Isla Mujeres. That rwally got me wonder about this person's mental health, because I believe all Latinos and Caribbeaners are brothers and sisters and I want to thank you for trying to organize this group. Im definitely there.
Once again, thank you and God bless you! Sincerely yours, Antonio El Cheveron del Caribe Martin
- Hola Trinidad!!! Como estas?? Im happy to know you're from Trinidad. Beautiful country! Ive seen it on brochures only, through :(. I know only a couple of things from Trinidad: Maurice Hope, a fabulous, fabulous world boxing champion (you should have seen the beating he put on some European top fighters!) and BWIA, the airline. I hope you dont get mad at me for saying this like the Mexican person did, but I used to see them every saturday, back when their planes where white and yellow with a girl and a flower on the tail. I loved them! Now that they are green with an orange or lime drawn on the fuselage I love them even better!
Well, I agree with everything you said about some people trying to divide us Caribbeans and Latinos. I think its sad specially since all the things we have in common unite us as brothers. I was impressed one time to learn there are about 50 nations in the Caribbean alone, roughly 25 percent of the world! When you think 100 percent of these countries speak either Spanish, English or French, that should bond us even more. What you are doing here is excellent.
Well, I will say adios now, I hope to hear from ylu soon!
thanks, and God bless you!
Sincerely yours, Antonio Caribbean Fiesta Martin
- I'm in!!!This looks like a great idea. I'm also from Puerto Rico, and I'm willing to help and collaborate on this proejct in any way. Let's get it on! I'll keep in touch!:D <<Coburn_Pharr>> 1 July 2005 07:23 (UTC)
- Hi Guettarda,
CaribDigita here, I think that's a neat about Notice Board for Caribbean Wikipedians. I think a lot of 'common' regional good could be brought about by it. I am all for it! Count me in! CaribDigita 2 July 2005 17:55 (UTC)
- No need to pick a single country. If you don't mind my asking, are you born in Barbados and based in Trinidad, or the other way round? Guettarda 6 July 2005 17:18 (UTC)
- Hey there, I did make sure to update my profile. To answer the little note you left. Basically, I was born in Boston, grew up during the summer with my Grandparents in B'dos(they orig. from Trinidad). And I still have family in T&T that I sometimes visit. :-) CaribDigita 8 July 2005 03:21 (UTC)
- I'm in, but I'm busy with a few real world things these days. I'm seeking some involvement from some of the regional ICT people as well, though that hasn't been very promising. Actually, the same questions we're looking at are the same ones that they have been having meetings about for years. Thanks for the invitation, it is accepted... but first, I have to get my own website online after it was crippled by a Denial of Service attack. Like you say on your main page: I must be doing something right. --TaranRampersad 5 July 2005 04:54 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Caribbean/Notable People
Great idea! I made a suggestion of a possibe structure, dividing the section into the fields in which these people are most noted for. Since its your baby please take a look at the page and do what you think is best. Let me know about your decision. Your friend Tony the Marine 7 July 2005 19:07 (UTC)
WMC RfA
Thank you very much for the information, as it does change my vote. As for the diffs, your word is definitely good enough :) All the best.--Scimitar 7 July 2005 22:35 (UTC)
Qatar
Thanks for your answer at WP:RD about Qatar. I am grateful. PedanticallySpeaking July 8, 2005 20:47 (UTC)
Michael Mann (scientist)
Hi G, I'd be grateful for your opinion on the slow edit war at Michael Mann (scientist). I'm a bit close to the subject. William M. Connolley 22:46:38, 2005-07-09 (UTC).
Back? Me?
Thanks, I do appreciate it. In part, I was out because I visited some friends in England for ten days, and didn't want to abuse my internet privileges (and wanted to spend most of my time with them and their son). I have to admit I was also feeling burned out by some battles that I still think are worth fighting (I am not talking about my BCE proposal — although I want to battle any attempts to use that whole thing as a reason systematically to erase any instance of BCE in Wikipedia — just other things). Also, I have reached a point where I genuinely do not know what more I have to contribute. If I do have more to add, it will take me some time to figure out what. And in the meantime, I am at an exceptionally productive, but busy, stage in my work, which often involves 13 or 14 hour days that are exhilarating, but leave little time for anything else. Anyway, none of this should be taken to mean that Wikipedia is any less important to me. Thanks again, Slrubenstein | Talk 00:30, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Flags
The flag layout on your user page is cool, so I borrowed it, with attribution. Salsb 04:18, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
WMC's RFAr
All of what you say about the RFAr and ArbComm is true. It's unfortunate that the fact remains that the ArbComm did parole him and he does POV-warrior at times, even if I would probably agree with his opinion. I've seen some of his comments on VfD too, and they are less smoothly phrased than they might be (even though VfD is pretty spiky anyway). It would be nice to have another official (so says ArbComm!!) expert added to the admins, but not this one just yet. He's close to being promoted at the moment, but if he's not then I'd certainly consider my vote completely afresh after the parole has expired. -Splash 02:09, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Wikistress
Hello Guettarda. I see you got a lot of wikistress. May I ask why? I do hope you don't leave wikipedia. Every time we lose a competent wikipedian, the idiot ratio gets a bit higher :-( Redwolf24 06:30, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
My RFA thanks
Thanks for your work on the RFA. Also, I hope "your" bomb hasn't been too stressful (what was it for?). I went through London on monday: an odd experience, tubes shutting, lots of police around, etc etc. William M. Connolley 18:27:40, 2005-07-13 (UTC).
Mamoncillo
Hi Guettarda - saw your note at Talk:Mamoncillo; I'd agree a move to the scientific name is a good idea, though before doing so, do you know if the genus is monotypic or not? One of my books says Melicoccus has two species, but goes on to describe only the one, and I can't find anything else saying more than one species. MPF 21:30, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
- Answer myself! - there's a Melicoccus lepidopetala, from Bolivia, Paraguay and Argentina - MPF 21:33, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Carapa
Hi Guettarda - thanks; you're right (I was going on the basis that the previous editor(s) had left the genus unlinked); when I checked up with google, there's 4 or 5 species. I'll add them. - MPF 23:09, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
rfAdmin
I appreciate your maturity and forbearance on Dr. C's adminship thing. You've been a peach throughout, while I have been (well, not always proud of myself, and let's just leave it at that).
It goes without saying that despite being a "bureaucrat" (God, I hate that word) I won't be deciding this matter. There's never been a more obvious conflict of interest.
If it turns out negative, I will suggest to William that he regroup and try again in a month or so. He's a really likeable chap, and utterly honest. Have I mentioned, that he's one of the few people I trust to edit my talk page comments? The only issue between him and me is neutrality on climate. Otherwise I'd have nominated him myself 2 years ago! Uncle Ed 15:56, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
- My thanks to you too. Unsuccessful this time (despite Ed's best last-minute efforts), but an interesting experience nonetheless and I much appreciate your efforts on my behalf. William M. Connolley 20:02:14, 2005-07-14 (UTC).
Thanks
Thanks for the kind words on my talk page. As you say, I'm rather too new for that kind of thing at present (and I suspect my edit-balance would be questioned; I'm a little heavy on *fD). Thanks too, for your handling of this RfA; my opposition to Ed Poor's proposal stems from concern that process, consensus and precedent be followed rather than my (heavy-hearted) opposition to your nomination of WMC. -Splash 17:27, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
WIKIPEDIA ABUSE Ril, (81.156.177.21), FS.
Ril has been causing problems at Authentic Matthew. Please help us to resolve.
RIL - M.O.
1) Sock Puppet redirects and hopes nobody notices - Article Gone.
2) SP starts edit war-victim gives up - Article Gone.
3) Later new SP 'merges' and redirects - Article Gone
4) New SP starts edit war - Article Gone
5) If all fails, SP puts up Vfd and makes false statements against his victim often getting THE VICTIM BLOCKED.
PLEASE STUDY THE 'EDIT HISTORY' OF THIS ARTICLE, RIL and 81.156.177.21 for the facts speak for themselves. --Mikefar 05:08, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
- Actually, the above is one of the numerous sockpuppets of the article's creator - User:Melissadolbeer - see the user's edit history, and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Melissadolbeer for details. The article in question is Melissadolbeer's original research based on an account by Jerome which is almost universally considered to be an error confusing 3 different gospels (Gospel of the Nazarenes, Gospel of the Hebrews, and Gospel of the Ebionites). It also contains material presenting Eusebius's views of what was Biblical Canon - better discussed at those two articles, and the entire source text of the alleged Gospel, which is otherwise almost universally split into the 3 seperate texts above. The source text was already on WikiSource, and what was salvagable from the remainder of the article was merged to the above 5 articles, and Gospel of Matthew, at the suggestion of User:Wetman. It exists only to support Melissadolbeer's original research thesis. Melissadolbeer's claims of recieving abuse from me, 81.156.177.21, doc, Slrubenstien, Wetman, etc. (whom Melissadolbeer claims to be sockpuppets of one-another) are simply down to the fact that we have at one time or another merged the article elsewhere leaving only a redirect, or have voted to delete it at VFD. The above comment by the sockpuppet has been pasted by it into a vast number of user pages, an act which essentially constitutes excessive disruption to Wikipedia, simply because Melissadolbeer refuses to abide by the process of VFD. ~~~~ 19:21, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
- To Mikefar - I have looked at the matter previously, I don't know enough to intervene. To -Ril- - Although I know nothing about this topic (which would make me well qualified to edit it) I disagree with your belief that you should only edit articles on topics about which you are ignorant. Guettarda 00:13, 16 July 2005 (UTC)