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February 10

Complaint

Whilst the concept of Wikipedia is good, it is obviously open to abuse and certain users post contraversial or possibly libelous amendments.

I have tried to edit out such libel and contentious comment from your page on AstraZeneca but my deletion was reinserted by some automated Bot!

You also have a link on the AstraZeneca page to David Brennan one of their most senior directors, however that link does not go to his biography but that of some David Brennan an Irish sportsman.

These sorts of issues detract from the quality of the rest of your entries.

I have tried to report this to you via your recommended route but whilst I tried to edit your template and post it in as suggested it said it was semi-protected and prevented me from posting it in the manner you requested.

Thanks and regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.213.119 (talk) 00:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

You could always contact the person who was responsible for writing/creating the bot if you feel it's malfunctioning or editing poorly. Also, if a bot is reinserting the text, it probably means you're just deleting a bulk of it, which the bot sees as vandalism or blanking. Bring your concerns to the talk page of the article first before making wholesale changes that may be contentious. Wisdom89 (talk) 00:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

(e/c) The problem is that you're blanking vast swathes of the article, which bots detect as vandalism. Humans also detect it as vandalism, particularly when you are removing any negative information about the company, which is why you have also been reverted by at least one human editor (and I'm heading that way if someone else doesn't get there first). If you have a problem with the article, take it up on the talk page. --Kateshortforbob 00:41, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Articles should satisfy policies like Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No original research. There is no policy against reporting criticism which has been published by a reliable source. Deletion of large parts of an article with no explanation is often considered vandalism. Different routes are possible when you have a problem with an article. Which recommended route, template and semi-protection are you referring to? If you are associated with AstraZeneca then see Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject), Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. Please note that Wikipedia has a strict policy against posting legal threats on the Wikipedia website (including this help desk): Wikipedia:No legal threats. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Since none of the above replies address the problem with the David Brennan link, I will. The first step is to search Wikipedia for all instances of "David Brennan", to see what we have so far:

• Search Wikipedia for: "David Brennan"

That finds a David Brennan article which refers to the Gaelic football player, obviously not David Brennan the CEO of AstraZeneca. We do not seem to have an article about the latter David Brennan. We do have an article about his predecessor: Tom McKillop. That article also has a link to an incorrect David Brennan. To see how many incorrect links point to the David Brennan article, check its backlinks:

• Special:Whatlinkshere/David Brennan

At the moment that only finds the one incorrect link from the Tom McKillop article; for now, I removed the incorrect link. I tried Googling to see if biographical information is available online elsewhere for your David Brennan, which might be sufficient to start a biography page about him on Wikipedia:

• "David Brennan" AstraZeneca

That finds a few links, including this cached page from Google (the original page is unavailable just now). It seems David Brennan of AstraZeneca is also a cyclist. Anyway, since you are editing from an IP address, you cannot start a new article on this David Brennan, which we could distinguish from David Brennan the Gaelic football player by adding a parenthetical qualifier: David Brennan (CEO). See Wikipedia:Disambiguation and Wikipedia:Hatnotes for the methods we use to disambiguate articles about people who share the same name. --Teratornis (talk) 03:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

userbox naming

How do you name userboxes as {{user example}}, {{user userbox}} etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.161.170.126 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 9 February 2008

You would create it at Template:Userboxname, however, most userboxes are created in your userspace; if you sign up, then this is located at User:Yourusername. Since you're an anonymous user, however, you can't create pages - you will have to sign up. XENON54 | talk 02:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Sidebar missing in firefox

Resolved

 – Mysteriously fixed itself.

Recently wikipedia has been displaying in firefox without frames. The sidebar is located at the bottom of the page. I don't have this problem in IE. I recently did the upgrade to the latest version of firefox - it was automatically downloaded - but I don't recall whether this problem first occurred before or after that upgrade. Initially I figured it was server-side and that it would be fixed shortly, so I paid little attention - but a web search doesn't show anybody else having the problem. Please, somebody save me from IE!

24.218.164.62 (talk) 02:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Here's a complicating update - I tried accessing other language wikipedias (French, Italian, etc) - and everything was arranged appropriately - wtf?

24.218.164.62 (talk) 02:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry -- I don't know! However, it seems to me there may be a slight chance that it's related to the problems some users are having in sections Wikipedia images and Cannot load images further up on this page. (If they've been archived, see archive links near the top of this page.) --Coppertwig (talk) 03:38, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm using the latest update of Firefox right now and don't seem to have a problem. Maybe it has to do with your screen resolution? STORMTRACKER 94 ^{Go Sox!} 12:52, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Ummm... the problem decided to resolve itself... I don't know what changed. It didn't even involve a restart of firefox. I came back to wikipedia to see if anybody had responded to this question and wikipedia was presented properly. Must of been another case of ghosts in the machines. Thanks for your help though guys.

24.218.164.62 (talk) 18:16, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I need help with a vandalism deletion of my article pages

Resolved

 – Nothing to see here, move along please

Can someone please help me I need "Administrator" {{helpme}} action, My article is being vandalised and deleted by a hostile admin or user from the Agnosticism and Christianity discussion pages and now I cant even have a proper "Article" on its own right. If Wikipedia keeps posting web links on the internet that show "links" to this my "What to Believe" article, then the article should show up when searched and be there right? otherwise Wikipedia must stop showing links to my article on the net if this article is deleted http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_to_believe. This Guy "Calton" is also threatening to block me from editing! The my article in question is here; http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAgnosticism&diff=190207184&oldid=189723818124.180.93.146 Fairdeal08 (talk) 02:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Agnosticism#What_to_believe
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Christianity
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.93.146 (talk) 02:45, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Note I have been watching this unfold and have not seen any inappropriate admin action. Jeepday (talk) 02:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh no, there are other "opinions" also on the same pages which I am trying to edit "add my article Fairdeal08 (talk) 02:53, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually, you need to stop using Wikipedia as a promotional forum. Go be productive or go elsewhere. — Scientizzle 02:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

What is propmotional about my article that 33% of the world (Majority)of people and Wikipedias's audience (demographic) consists of?? OK. fair enough so can Wikipedia then "stop" posting the "links" that point to this article on the web then, right! Fairdeal08 (talk) 02:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fairdeal08"

Wikipedia is not a soapbox. You might want to find some other website to push your philosophy. Corvus cornix_talk 02:57, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to point out that 33% is not a majority. Regardless, keep in mind that Wikipedia's most fundamental policy is that articles are to be written from a neutral point of view. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 03:03, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The link that Wikipedia must stop linking to should be deleted from the web if the article is deleted, right? currently this next link shows the contribs for Fact Idiot for article titled under Talk:Agnostism "What to Believe" http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20061002095349&target=Fact+idiot which links from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive140#Walled_garden_.2F_spammers which links from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive140 which links from a keyword from google search. Fairdeal08 (talk) 03:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Special:Whatlinkshere/What to believe shows that there are no links aside from the administrator noticeboards and your own user talk page that link there. I'm not sure what the purpose of the two links you just gave is, but they seem to show that you're a sockpuppet of a user indefinitely blocked for spamming, considering you placed the exact same argument on Talk:Agnosticism. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 03:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

No, don't worry about it: there is no need to delete a link just because the page it links to is deleted. Wikipedia has many links like that; they're called redlinks. --Coppertwig (talk) 03:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Clear soapboxing of the type prohibited by WP:SOAP - nothing really to discuss, delete on sight. --Fredrick day (talk) 03:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Moving images to Commons

Hi there; could someone help me moving this and this images to Commons? Thanks! --Tonyjeff (talk) 02:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Note, the first image already exists on commons as Image:Palacio Alvorada commons.jpg, the second image has been transferred across. Foxhill (talk) 03:56, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

As an aside, you can use the CommonsHelper tool to get a bot to upload images to commons for you. This bot will also auto-fill in the descriptions based on the Image description page on it's home language. All you have to do after using it is add {{ncd}} or {{nowcommons}} to the page on wikipedia. Foxhill (talk) 04:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Please also see WP:MTC β^_command 16:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Sixteen Candles

The Sixteen Candles page has been deleted except for this: ( . There is documentation of previous work that has been done for the page, but it's all gone. I don't think the page has been officially deleted; I just think someone has erased it. This makes me sad. :( I don't know how to fix it!

Thanks so much! 74.140.185.227 (talk) 02:53, 10 February 2008 (UTC)liza

Are you talking about Sixteen Candles? It was recently vandalized by an anonymous user, but VoABot II repaired the damage. Check the page out now and everything should be fine. If for some reason it still looks weird to you, try clearing your browser cache. Canderson7 ^(talk) 02:59, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Yep, just some routine vandalism. For information on how to fix vandalism, see Help:Reverting. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 03:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Image Copyright question

Hi, I was hoping someone could quickly clarify the image copyright rules with relation to a specific issue. I'm wanting to add a picture to the info box on Sara Bareilles, and wasn't sure if pictures in the photo section on Sara Bareilles' official website would be considered publicity photos, and therefore ok to use. Thanks --DonVincenzo (talk) 04:10, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

You may want to ask your question at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, after reviewing Wikipedia:Non-free content. I believe this used to be acceptable, but we're a lot stricter about these things nowadays. Bovlb (talk) 08:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Corrupted Files

I have just started inputting data to Wikipedia without a problem until yesterday. The following files have been successfully uploaded:

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/4/49/Infrastructure_Stats_0801.pdf

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Ports_South-America_Brazil_Internet_List.pdf

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/c/c5/Ports_South-America_Uruguay_Internet_List.pdf

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/2/2a/Ports_South-America_Colombia-Internet_List.pdf

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/a/a2/Ports_Central-America-Internet_List.pdf

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/7/77/Ports_South-America_Argentina_Internet_List.pdf

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/6/6f/Ports_South-America_Chile_Internet_List.pdf

Today two files (both *.pdf) which I have tried to upload were flagged by you as corrupted files and unable to upload. What to do? I could try reformatting from their original WORD (*.doc) files to Adobe (*.pdf) files to see if that worked. Please advise.

CARLOS J. TIBBETTS Yokohama, Japan

[e-mail removed] [my e-mail address] —Preceding unsigned comment added by TIBC1 (talk • contribs) 04:22, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! I am sorry, that must be frustrating. I really do not know why it would say they were corrupted. But yes, try converting them to .pdf again, and then uploading again, to see if that helps. If that fails, see if there are any options in the software you are using to generate the PDF files that could be problematic, e.g., advanced formatting options / format extensions, that might not be working right. Hope this helps in some way. • Anakin ^(talk) 22:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

What does nawassa mean

people first name what does nawassa mean —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.202.120 (talk) 06:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

How do I get a user page to respond in the Wikipedia search engine?

I am an aspiring international musician, and due to some recent high-publicity events I wanted to make sure that people who looked me up found accurate information. Therefore, in compliance with Wikipedia policy, I created a user page (user:dougoconnor) for this purpose. However, when I type in my name into the search box on the left, my article won't come up.

Any suggestions? Thank-you.

Dougoconnor (talk) 07:04, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The search engine is set to search the encyclopedia (the main namespace), and not userpages. A search for your name would find an article by that name, if one existed. However, it is advised not to create an article on yourself. See Wikipedia:Autobiography and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest.

Wikipedia:User pages should not be used for self-promotion. They are for communicating with other Wikipedians for the purpose of building this encyclopedia.

I hope I've helped clear things up. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. The Transhumanist 07:19, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I wish you well with your music career. Google finds a few notable references, but not yet enough to be worthy of an entry in Wikipedia. If you continue on your current path I expect that one day you will be sufficiently notable to have your own article here. As the old story goes: "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?" "Practice." Sbowers3 (talk) 12:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

what does AUS mean

When i read someones name an AUS appears after it what does that mean —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.121.155 (talk) 07:53, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

It may mean many things, please see AUS disambiguation page for details. — E ^talk 09:16, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

It will usually mean they are from Australia. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:56, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

how do i make a page

how do i make a page —Preceding unsigned comment added by DACAMISTER (talk • contribs) 08:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --teb728 t c 09:04, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

After you do all that, if you're sure you want to create the page, see Help:Starting a new page. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! --Coppertwig (talk) 15:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Reg : Looking for a career with Wikipedia - NewDelhi,India

Dear Wikipedia Management,

I am Chokkalingam from NewDelhi,India. I am looking for a career with Wikipedia Team either Full Time or Part Time. About me, I am an Engineering Graduate working as Software Engineer and also interested in History / Latest Updates. I am interested to enter into Journalism Industry through a career with Wikipedia.

I request to consider my profile and interest and provide an oppurtunity.

Thanks, A.Chokkalingam <phone number removed>

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.221.253 (talk) 08:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC) 

Please see the Employment page on the Wikimedia Foundation wiki for the current job opportunities. There is currently a Software Engineer position open, if this interests you. — E ^talk 09:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

New service

Good Afternoon,

I'm Helio and I have one idea of different service for your costumers, can I get in contact with anyone?

sincerly <e-mail removed>

Wikipedia is not a business and as such doesn't have customers. It is run entirely by volunteers and is non-profit. See Wikipedia:Contact us, however, if you urgently need to contact Wikipedia or this page to contact the Wikimedia Foundation who runs Wikipedia. Note that any advertising proposal will be immediately rejected due to the fact that Wikipedia is non-profit. XENON54 | talk 13:19, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Article's Images

how do you add an image to an article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfoto (talk • contribs) 13:33, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

See Help:Images and other uploaded files. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

It's easy if the image is at Wikimedia Commons. Suppose the name of the image is Image:Tapestry-1-.jpg. Then you just put this into the article: [[Image:Tapestry-1-.jpg|thumb|240px|This is the caption to be displayed]] . You can leave out the "240px" or change it to a different number to change the size of the image. You can write anything in the last part to make the image caption. You can add "left" or "right" between pipe symbols | to position the image on the page. See Wikipedia:Images. --Coppertwig (talk) 15:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

deletion of images of PROPHET MOHAMMAD(SAS)PEACE BE UPON HIM

KINDLY DELETE THE IMAGES THAT HAS BEEN PRINTED IN THE WEB-SITE.THIS HAS BEEN FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM.LET THE SITE BE EDUCATIVE AND CREATIVE FOR ALL.BUT IT SHOULD NOT PUBLISH OR DEPICT PICTURES WHICH HURTS RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS.

REGARDS

MD ABDUR RAB BHUBANESWAR ORISSA INDIA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.50.162.137 (talk) 15:00, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

This has been discussed numerous times in the past, and has been an area of much dispute. Wikipedia operates by consensus, so the page Talk:Muhammad/FAQ has been created to explain what editors have agreed upon. The current consensus appears to be that since Wikipedia is not censored, the images should be kept as they are. If you wish to discuss this, bring it up at Talk:Muhammad/images and explain your reasoning clearly and civilly. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 15:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandilism

Resolved

 – Disruptive, but not vandalism. User warned.

I want to ask that if the reply of User:Riztech here is vandilism or not? If yes then should i report it to WP:AIV? Thanks! --SMS ^Talk 15:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Uncivil? Yes. Inappropriate? Clearly. Vandalism? Probably not. Unless he responded in that way in an intentional attempt to harm Wikipedia, it's not vandalism. I recommend reminding him on his user talk page to be civil and to assume good faith. BLP issues can get people angry, and I think that's all this is. One thing that might help is giving him some time to cool down to avoid any more angry responses. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 15:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

OK! got it! thanks! --SMS ^Talk 15:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Hm, now that I look at his talk page (which I didn't notice before), seems he has a recent history of disruptive activity on that page. He got a last warning yesterday, so if he's disruptive again, I'd recommend reporting him to AIV. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 16:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I found an article that should be delted

Resolved

 – Article deleted.

It sound like an advertisement, I think somebody just copied it off of a website. I know that the tag {{delete}} is what you use to set up a page for deletion. But how do I post a reason for deletion with it? Superstarwarsfan (talk) 16:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Put in {{tl}} so that you aren't nominating the Help desk for deletion. x42bn6 Talk Mess 16:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I use {{db|reason}} which is the shortest method. Replace reason with, predictably, your reason. However, "I think somebody just copied it off of[sic]a website" makes me think it could be considered a copyright violation - there's {{db-copyvio}} for that. x42bn6 Talk Mess 16:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Can you check to make sure I did it right? I'm trying to learn to use Wikipedia better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Sapp Superstarwarsfan (talk) 16:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The article has been deleted as you requested, so I believe this question is resolved. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 18:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Was this edit vandalism?

One of the pages I occasionally edit had this edit done earlier today. I'm a little suspicious because the korean link now appears to point to a non-existant article (I see a red link where in the english Wikipedia is the "article" tab). I don't read Korean and don't have the Hangul font installed, so I can't tell and can't translate it. Can someone who knows the Korean language take a look and let me know if the change was an improvement on the old link. Many thanks. Astronaut (talk) 18:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

While I can't read Korean, I think that the previous version was better, as it actually pointed to an article; the new version doesn't seem to. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 18:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I don't know Korean either, but there shouldn't be an interwiki red link at all, and the article it previously pointed to was clearly the correct article. I've undone the edit, but I don't think it was vandalism. More likely just a mistake. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 18:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

tournament brackets

How do you enter team names and scores in a tournament bracket format? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manute555 (talk • contribs) 19:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia has three bracket templates: {{4TeamBracket}}, {{8TeamBracket}}, and {{16TeamBracket}}. All have usage instructions on its template talk page (click "discussion" at the top of the template page). XENON54 | talk 20:20, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Alternatively, if this was not a Wikipedia question but a knowledge question, and you need help with arcane matters such as how to assign tournament bracket numbers to players, number of byes and how to place byes on double elimmination charts and the like, drop me a line at my talk page and I'll help.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Adding Pictures

How do I place images in a article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rem Nightfall (talk • contribs) 21:11, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

• If you want to add an existing image to an article, type [[Image:File name.jpg|right|Optional caption.]] to the article – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, right with the alignment of the image on the page and Optional caption with the caption, which of course, is optional. See our picture tutorial for more information.
• If you want to upload an image from your computer, to put in an article, you must find out what license the image is licensed under. If you know your image is licensed under a free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons, where all projects have access to the image. If you are unsure what license your image is licensed under, see the file upload wizard for more information. Also, please read Wikipedia's image use policy. Hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Now how do I put it into the article. I already uploaded it, but I don't know what to do next. Sorry if I'm a bit slow with this stuff.Rem Nightfall (talk) 22:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)Rem Nightfall

That's the first part of User:Fuhghettaboutit's answer: given an image file, say Image:Example.jpg, to make it appear in an article you type [[Image:Example.jpg|right|The caption for the image.]]. This is a fairly basic way of doing it, and to understand the control you can have over the image it's best to read the picture tutorial. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikilinking a edit page

I am wanting to wikilink a edit page, but cannot figure out how to. I know I could use external links [ ] to accomplish this task, but I rather use wikilinking, if possible. Thanks, PGPirate 21:33, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The name of any article on this site can be linked by placing doubled bracktes around it. [[Wikipedia]] becomes Wikipedia. If you want a link to an article to say something different than the article name you pipe ("|") the link like so: [[Wikipedia|encyclopedia]] becomes encyclopedia.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:52, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

If I understand you correctly, you want to wikilink to an "edit" link. I don't think this can be done, you have to use external links so February 10. Woody (talk) 21:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I’ll point out that the external link symbol can be turned off with <span class="plainlinks">link</span> which will make the link appear as February 10. —Travis^talk 22:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Travis. I didnt want the EL symbol on there. PGPirate 22:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Coding help

{{User:MrKIA11/Archive Box|auto=short|links=15}} {{User:MrKIA11/Archive Box|<center>{{archive list|links=15}}</center>}} I have developed a template, and in one case it gives a very odd output. I can not figure out what I'm doing wrong. It is most likely something simple, but I can not understand it. To the right is one example. The two boxes should look identical. MrKIA11 (talk) 23:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Special:ExpandTemplates might help you to find the problem. Sbowers3 (talk) 00:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that is very helpful. The problem is that now I am even more confused, because the box works fine on that page. MrKIA11 (talk) 12:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

With the new preprocessor a conditional "|p=q" is not allowed in a template call (not even with {{!}}); make p or q conditional instead.--Patrick (talk) 16:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

With e.g. {{t1demo{{!}}1=p}} "Result" of ExpandTemplates contains a correct template call that has failed to expand. In that case the rendering of Result shown in Preview of ExpandTemplates is not the same as the rendering of the input.--Patrick (talk) 16:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

How do I make something conditional? MrKIA11 (talk) 17:17, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

E.g. {{archive list|links={{{links|30}}}}}.--Patrick (talk) 00:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh OK. Thanks for all the help, MrKIA11 (talk) 01:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure I saw a project that has people check out new articles.

But I can't find it. Can someone provide a link? Superstarwarsfan (talk) 23:40, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:WikiProject New page or Wikipedia:New pages patrol. -- Rick Block (talk) 23:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

February 11

adding information to a name that is matching the same name of another person

I would like to addinformation for fashion designer Lloyd Klein. I am the president of Lloyd Klein. I am a little overwhelmed and cannot figure out how to create information for Lloyd Klein. Currently when we search the terms Lloyd Klein we find only the great hockeyplayer of the same name.

Can you point me to the correct information about how to uplaod information specific to the fashion designer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lanparis (talk • contribs) 00:08, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Disambiguation. The article could be called "Lloyd Klein (fashion designer)". But as president of Lloyd Klein you have a conflict of interest. That means you are strongly discouraged from writing an article about Lloyd Klein. See also Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Is there...

...some kind of general template to alert editors that "HEY! there's a discussion on this article's talk page that you might want to read before you edit?" I didn't really see anything in "templates"....Thanks!Gladys J Cortez 00:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You could use {{notice}}. --Silver Edge (talk) 00:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Requiring citations

Here's an almost completely unreferenced section of an article. I put a {{refimprovesect}} template on it. Should I also go through it and put in {{cn}}'s? There would be at least twenty of them.

Let's say I wait for two weeks or a month and nothing has changed. What then, should I put in some specific {{cn}}'s, leave it alone, or be the grim reaper? Cited NPOV would leave one or two sentences. And what should I be putting on the talk page to signal my intentions? Thanks! Franamax (talk) 02:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It seems the whole article needs references. I've moved the references tag to the top to cover the whole thing. You may want to add {{cn}}'s to some of the more critical statements, but the large ambox should get most of the message across. I wouldn't put the article up for deletion, even if the thing is ignored for a while, as places such as this tend to be inherently notable, and it shouldn't be too hard to find references anyway. Just keep checking on it, and call in the help of a few relevant Wikiprojects if you need to.

Of course, you could always do it yourself. ;-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, I would never put the whole article up for deletion, White Rock, British Columbia vies with Kitsilano as the Centre of the Universe :) I was specifically referring to the discussion of recent suburban development in the History section, which looks to be a whole series of opinions added piecemeal. I'm close enough to the action to add ref's, but I would run a mower through the middle of it first. I'll wait a few weeks, add some specific tags, wait a bit more, then think about a cited rewrite.

I'll take your advice on posting to the right projects, but hey, have you actually tried that lately? What is the sound of deafening silence? I know, put in an "inactive" tag for the project and go up a level.

Thanks, I'll keep plugging away... Cheers! Franamax (talk) 02:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I have, and gotten the same deafening emptiness you have, but asking someone who's supposed to be focusing on the subject is better than nobody at all. Good luck with the article. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 13:24, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

how to edit a page?

how to edit a page in wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.224.28.13 (talk) 07:10, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

At the top of the screen for every article/page there should be an "edit this page" button. Click on that and you're on your way. Be sure to abide by our core policies and avoid make slanderous, profane, or obscene edits which would be construed as vandalism. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 07:54, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

See more at Help:Editing. A few pages are protected and don't have edit links. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Picture

Resolved

Hi, I wondered if anyone could please help with my picture problem. I have uploaded a photograph [[1]] and am trying to put it into this article [[2]] but it won't appear. What am I doing wrong?Southdevonian (talk) 11:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I fixed it for you, the JPG wasn't capitalized, that was throwing it off, I added some parameter tags as well. -Dureo (talk) 11:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks Dureo. Capital JPG - I shall remember that.Southdevonian (talk) 11:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Keep in mind that not all images use an all-caps extension. Image:Flag of the United States.svg, exists, for example, whereas Image:Flag of the United States.SVG does not. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 13:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Quickbar preferences

Hi, When I change the Quickbar settings in "My preferences" I can only change the location on the screen (right/left). But when I change from "fixed" to "floating" nothing happens. Isn't it supposed to be floating at the side of the screen regardless of the scrolling? Thank you, Iddoj (talk) 12:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I can't find this option in Special:Preferences. Could you point out which menu you're finding this in? Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 13:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It's not in the standard MonoBook skin. See Help:Preferences#QuickBar settings. I use MonoBook and haven't tried this. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Posting my talk page

Hi

I have edited and saved my talk page, but am unable top publish this. Can you assist me please? 217.205.198.24 (talk) 12:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

When you make an edit on Wikipedia, your edits are immediately visible. You don't appear to have made any edits to your talk page, however - check your contributions here. If you were trying to edit a page, make sure to hit the "Save page" button after you hit "Preview". Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 13:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you have a dynamic IP address and edited the talk page for another IP. Or were you logged in when you edited? Here is general advice about creating new articles:

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Legal Auditing entry

help: The entry for Legal Auditing is an advertisement for one, very controversial firm, that is not representative of the industry, which was pioneered in the 1990s by my competing firm. The information is also incomplete and misleading and references an alleged "association" that's also an invention, not a legitimate trade organization. Even the terminology "legal auditing" is questionable -- these are not audits in the same sense as the term is used by accountants. The firm that created the entry claims to have a trademark on some of these terms. We're not really interested in getting involved in a battle for control of this entry. The entry should simply be deleted until this industry matures and a true consensus can be reached. 13:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)13:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)13:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I removed an improper WP:External link. The rest of the article seems okay but a second opinion would be good. Sbowers3 (talk) 17:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

How can i make a page

How can i page a page about a subject IE a band or a local famous person??

Thanks Adam —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrrag66 (talk • contribs) 13:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Making a graph

How can I make a graph charting census statistics? I have three three different years, with a few statistics for each. Thanks! Seahamlass 15:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! Wikipedia currently does not have graph making software installed (i.e. line graphs, bar graphs, and so on). You may find some hep in Wikipedia:How to create graphs for Wikipedia articles. Wikipedia does have the ability to create Tables and timelines. Hope this helps! --omtay38 17:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Changing signature

I want to know about changing signature. I have read the Wikipedia:Signatures, but their are no much information available. I have changed the signature in my preference by adding raw code in the "Signature box" of my preference. And enabled raw signature. I have some questions.

1. What is the fuction of the "raw signature" buttom?
2. The raw signature button states "If unchecked, the contents of the box above will be treated as your nickname and link automatically to your user page. If checked, the contents should be formatted with Wiki markup, including all links". What is indicated by "If unchecked"? What is "unchecked"? And what is indicated by "If checked"? How to "check"?
3. I want to know about the color codes, i.e. I can change the color of my signature. Where can I find the codes of the colors? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 15:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Otolemur crassicaudatus, and thanks for your question. Here goes:

The Raw signature tick-box (called a 'check-box' in some parts of the world), tells the Wiki software to treat what's in the text box above in one of two ways:

If unticked (unchecked), to treat the contents of the box as your literal signature, and display it exactly as it's typed when you enter ~~~~

If ticked (checked), to treat the contents of the box as a line of code ( or markup) and try to interpret it. This means that things like an automatic link to your user page will not be included unless you type in the appropriate markup. Look at other editor's signatures in the edit screens to see how they've used markup, but please bear in mind that, even with markup, signatures should be reasonably short on the edit screens so as not to break up the text too much ;)

To alter the checkbox, just left-click it. Wiki markup uses either hex-triplets or colour names to set colours; there is a list of colours here to get you started.

Hope this helps! EyeSerene^TALK 17:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Moving Chatfield High School

Resolved

The article Chatfield High School is misnamed. The correct name for the school, per its web page (linked to in the article) is Chatfield Senior High. I'd just move the page, but there are complications that are beyond my skill level: there is a redirect page for Chatfield Senior High, redirecting it to Chatfield High School; also there are maybe 25 links to the existing page.

It seems to me that we have it backwards: The page should be named Chatfield Senior High, and there should be a page redirecting Chatfield High School to that page.

Can somebody please just fix it? (Or tell me how, and I'll try. But I'm a bit concerned about messing it up.) Lou Sander (talk) 16:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Fixed by User: Friday. --omtay38 17:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The "correct" place to get this kind of thing done is at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 21:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Page deleted

My page about Dr. Theodore Geisel AZA #195 was recently deleted, but I did not copy my work onto a word processor. I checked if the administrator who deleted my wiki page (Irishguy) was on the list of administrators who could return the text of deleted wiki pages, but he wasn't on that list. How can I get my work back in order to edit it so that it will not be deleted next time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katavim (talk • contribs) 17:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I have emailed it to you. An article about an organization should demonstrate with reliable sources that it satisfies Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Most organizations do not satisfy our guidelines. Here is some general advice about creating articles:

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Frankly, individual chapters of Aleph Zadik Aleph are unlikely to be notable enough to merit their own Wikipedia articles. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion

Please pass this suggestion onto whoever manages Wikipedia.

First, I think Wikipedia is *phenomenal*. It was a masterstroke to develop this idea.

Second, I think it would be fun and would stimulate usage to give people a login tool, where whenever they fire up their computer, they're shown a random Wikipedia article, rather like the "featured article," when one starts Wikipedia. For many of us, it would be fun to start the day with a random bit of new learning. This could be done truly randomly, or an individual could pick a topic area (science, literature, people) and get a random article about that chosen topic (e.g., if they've selected "people" as their favorite topic, a random person's bio pops up when they start their computer).

I imagine this is probably pretty easy to do.

Rob Arnott —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.179.243.130 (talk) 17:26, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for your kind words about Wikipedia. It may interest you to know that nobody "manages wikipedia." Rather, everybody manages wikipedia. You can too, in fact! There is a login tool (take a look at Wikipedia:Why create an account?). As for the random page, we actually have a link (Special:Random) which you can access from the link in the toolbar at the left. If you'd like to be greeted by a random article everyday, bookmark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random as your homepage. There are also a whole bunch of neat ways to find articles through the Main Page and through what are known as portals. Hope this helps! --omtay38 17:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Autograph license

Are autographs eligible for copyright? It seems to me that I saw on an autograph that it said that it was inelligble for some reason - but I can't remember where. If this is true, if I find an autograph that is published under a different license, am I allowed to change it because technically it is public domain? Save-Me-Oprah^(talk) 17:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Uh.... I haven't a clue, and since this has sat here for two hours without a response, I'd have to assume most other Help Desk regulars don't either. However, if you ask at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, the folks there should have an idea, or at least know how to find out. Sorry to send you off elsewhere, but you're much more likely to get a response there, and a more reliable one at that. Good luck! Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:50, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Check out "Use of a Signature" here. Also, check out the fair use rationale for the images at [3]. Good luck, —Noah 21:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I missed the most important reference, start here: Signature#Copyright. —Noah 21:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

computer

what are the most important computer components? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.195.21.179 (talk) 18:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. --The Helpful One 18:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You can also read our article on computers and come to your own conclusions.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

emailing

How do I send a page to my friends email? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdn chick (talk • contribs) 19:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You can save the page to your computer and send it as an attachment (File -> Save As) or e-mail your friend the URL. Either one works. If you're sending the URL, you might want to first click Permanent link in the sidebar so that the version you send doesn't change before your friend reads it. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 19:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Portrait Image

Resolved

Hey. I uploaded this[Image:Shiraz 1827.jpeg] image. Unfortunately it is in Portrait. How can I make it landscape?Ardeshire Babakan (talk) 19:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You'd have to rotate the image on your computer and re-upload it. Microsoft Windows allows you to do this while previewing the image. I've done it for you in this case, however. If the image doesn't appear properly, try clearing your cache. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanx so much! I'm not sure if I could have done it my self 'cuz I have a Mac. But i will try with another image. Thanx loads!Ardeshire Babakan (talk) 11:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Signature Queston and Hometown Question

Yeah, I got ,I signature up and everything, but shouldn't it say your username too? I'm currently just putting my Username in it, and then a Pagebreak, and then my signature. Is this the only way?

Also, if we visit our hometown's page, would there be a problem if on the discussion, you said that you lived there? Or is there a rule prohibiting this?

Thanks.

~The Unwanted Comment

A Dirge for her, the doubly dead. In that, she died so young. 20:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I think you may want to take a look at WP:SIG. Generally, signatures should carry a link to your user page or user talk page, and not be too long.

As for the discussion, it would be a good idea to declare any conflict of interest you may have in discussions. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

(E/C) You sign your name here by typing four tildes (~~~~) which automatically formats to your signature when you click save (if this doesn't work, go to your preferences and uncheck "Raw signature"). You can place the tildes automatically by clicking on the editing button which looks like this: . I can imagine a good reason to mention you lived an a particular place, such as "the unsourced information about _____ is wrong, I know this because I lived there" or numerous other examples. Another words, there's no hard and fast rule "people are prohibited from saying where they live" anywhere on Wikipedia. Such a comment would be completely irrelevant, however, if placed solely for the purpose of saying it/claiming it, rather than in the context of a relevant post about the article, and it is likely to be removed if it has no purpose geared toward helping out the encyclopedia.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I think part of the problem you're having is that when you say signature, you mean the sort of signature people use on message boards and in forums. Generally, on Wikipedia, a signature is a way of signing your name that generally contains a link to your user page, possibly a link to your talk page, and the time and date you signed. Since Wikipedia is not a message board, chat room or forum, people don't tend to use the kind of signature you're talking about. Skittle (talk) 22:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Mmmkay... Thanks for responding. The information you gave me helped.:-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Unwanted Comment (talk • contribs) 22:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Wait, why does mine have Special contributions on it, and Fuhghettaboutit and skittle don't? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Unwanted Comment (talk • contribs) 05:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Because you aren't signing. You're getting an automatic signature added by Sinebot, a bot that notices when people don't sign their names on certain pages. If you type ~~~~ at the end of your message, you should get something that looks more like mine -> Skittle (talk) 10:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

product not deliverd

my name is jimmy palmer i orderd a movie set of duck man and have not recived it i had gotten a confromation email but did not recieve the product please help my email is <email removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.151.21.102 (talk) 20:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Porgy and Bess

i need to find out the story of porgy and best and how black americans are represended in this film —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.96.236.31 (talk) 20:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Please see Porgy and Bess (film).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) The Wikipedia article on Porgy and Bess is here, but the article for the opera version (click here) has more detail on what you are looking for - scroll down to the Racial controversy section. All the best, EyeSerene^TALK 20:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Edit My Username?

Hi

For some reason when I chose a username, the Wikipedia site decided I wanted the first letter capitalised even though I don't and specifically entered a lower case g. Can this be corrected?

Thank you, username: gndb (incorrectly recorded as "Gndb")

Usernames always start with a capital. You cannot change that, but you can customize your signature to make a lower case letter and you can use {{Lowercase}} to display a lower case g on your user page. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Your user page at User:Gndb has not been created yet. Wikilinks automatically convert a lower case starting letter to upper case, so User:gndb would also work. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! :) gndb —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gndb (talk • contribs) 21:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_made_the_first_bomb

Has anyone looked at the entry for this? It probably was made by an Iranian mullah! I am not exactly computer literate, so I can't fix it myself, but I think someone on your end should look at what you are being used for! Jim Cooper <emial removed for privacy>—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.36.165 (talk) 21:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

A wiki is any site running wiki software—there are thousands of them. WikiAnswers is run by the Answers Corporation. Wikipedia is run by the non profit Wikimedia Foundation which is unrelated to WikiAnswers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Wikipedia and that site are not the same thing. But thanks for trying to be helpful. ^F_L^c 22:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

signature cursor

I saw someone, I don't remember the name, with a signature that had the cursor being (when moved over the link), instead of a mouse, a crosshair. I know it was something like:

<span style="textdecoration:cursor:crosshair> signature </span>

Do you have any idea of what I can do to get that effect? ^F_L^c 22:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

<span style="cursor: crosshair">signature</span>

The above source gives: signature --Kjoonlee 22:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

TY, TY. ^F_L^c 22:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

edit counting

Is there any way to find out the number of edits that I have made in a particular namespace without submitting an RfA or anything like that? <sorry, forgot to log in> ^F*^L*^SUBS 22:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, here. Malinaccier (talk) 22:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

My Toolbox

Could someone take a look at my User:Matthewedwards/monobook.js and help me figure out why the additions from Lupin (Filter recent changes, All recent changes, Recent IP edits, Monitor my watchlist, Live spellcheck) are listed twice. Thanks! -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 23:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Looks like you fixed it yourself. [4] Can this be considered resolved now or are are you still getting two of them? • Anakin ^(talk) 00:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

It's fixed now, and so resolved. Thanks though! -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 00:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

New Pages

How do you make a new page on a subject LittleRedeemer (talk) 23:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

If you still want to create an article after using the above help pages, see Help:Starting a new page. --Coppertwig (talk) 02:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

February 12

Adding {{SharedIPEDU}} to talk pages

Is there a way to add {{SharedIPEDU}} to many talk pages at once? (Like, mark all the talk pages of IP's that belong to a particular educational institution with that template?)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Calvin 1998 (talk • contribs) 00:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This is (part of) the intended task of IPTaggerBot, currently up for approval at WP:RBA. Algebraist 00:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

There's also SelketBot. • Anakin ^(talk) 00:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

How to get initial capital letters into all words of a subject title?

For example, when my subject is "Holloway Sanatorium" I want the title to appear as that, not "Holloway sanatorium". I started my article with the following: Holloway Sanatorium was a hospital located in ... The article correctly starts with the words "Holloway Sanatorium" in bold, but the subject title is "Holloway sanatorium" in large. Not how I want it, but what can I do? Links to "Holloway Sanatorium" are not recognized! See the article mentioned. I would be grateful for any advice. P0mbal (talk) 00:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

If you want to change the title of a page, you use the move tab at the top, then make sure you fix any double redirects. Hope that helps. Cheers. Earthbendingmaster 00:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

 Done - Moved Holloway sanatorium to Holloway Sanatorium. —Travis^talk 00:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

chemistry

magnesium carbohonate is added to an iron binding capacity determination in order to A. allow color to develope b.precipitata protien c. bind with hemoglobin iron d.remove excess unbound iron —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.155.150.73 (talk) 01:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

What is your question? The Help Desk is here to help with issues using Wikipedia. If you'd like to add material to an article, click "edit this page" at the top of any page. XENON54 | talk 01:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This sounds like a multiple choice question with 4 choices. It's not intended for homework, but: Have you tried the science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

free DVD rewritable disc eraser.

Hi Team,I'm trying to find the above,but,i can't find one to download,i wonder if you could please help by Emailing me one or any sugestions.regards,Raymond. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pesora (talk • contribs) 01:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hover Text

I remember reading on some page about how to make hover text. I forgot how, and I was wondering if anyone knew how to make it? Spencer^T♦C 01:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC) (Hover text is the little box of text that comes up when you put your cursor over a link, such as this. Put your cursor over the link).

You are looking for {{H:title}} which is documented at Help:Wikitext. —Noah 02:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

See also Help:Link#"Hover box" on links. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Help:Link#Miscellaneous contains a section on ""Hover box" on links". Try this: {{H:title|test me|please}} produces test me (try hovering over that). --Coppertwig (talk) 02:17, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Spencer^T♦C 12:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

How can I get the content of a deleted entry?

Resolved

 – Page content userified

I wrote an entry in August 2007 and it was deleted, apparently on October 27. I'd like to use that content for another purpose. How can I get it?

The name of the article was "Emily Posner" and it was deleted by a user named Tone. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wwjdd (talk • contribs) 02:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

You should contact Tone and ask to have the deleted content copied to your userspace. —Travis^talk 02:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I'll drop the content on one of your user subpages; how about User:Wwjdd/Emily Posner? Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 02:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

New Version of Image Displaying Improperly

Resolved

I uploaded a new version of an image for the Info-Mac article, but the page shows the old image instead of the new one, and at the aspect ratio of the new image! The heck? Dpaanlka (talk) 02:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This is because your computer's web cache has not been updated. Generally, browsers load images and text once; then, when you reopen a previously visited page, they remember the content and load it more quickly. However, if the images change but keep the same source URL, the browser will not recognize that they are different. In short, to fix this, just clear your cache by following the instructions here. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 02:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but it definitely isn't a caching issue. It is displaying incorrectly on all browsers and all computers, even random computers in this lab that I've never used before. Dpaanlka (talk) 02:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, not a cache issue as I’m seeing the old image too. I purged the server cache to no avail. I’m stumped. —Travis^talk 02:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, now suddenly it's working for me on all systems. I guess maybe that must have been it? Dpaanlka (talk) 02:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is, but I don’t know why. Maybe it was a server cache issue after all. —Travis^talk 03:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Quiz

Moved from User talk:Jimbo Wales. [5] ☯  Zenwhat (talk) 03:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

My quiz has been created about few weeks ago but nobody seems to know my quiz. I have already listed it at WP:FUN but I still get no response! How can I tell the others about my quiz and link it to Portal:Animals?--Mark Chung (talk) 02:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey there Mark! I believe we've crossed paths before. Although your quiz may have found it's place in the Department of Fun, wikipedia is, first and foremost, an encyclopedia. As a result of this, most editors may not be here at wikipedia to take your test. You may find some other locations for your quiz by checking out the wikipedia article for Online quizzes or by googling online quiz. Hope this helps! --omtay38 03:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Siting Wikipedia as a Source

I was wondering how someone would be able to site Wikipedia as a source with copyright, author, publisher, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.219.187.88 (talk) 03:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Hope that helps, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 03:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Translation sites

translation sites ,english to gujarati —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.223.133 (talk) 05:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Note that this is the help desk for questions about using Wikipedia, and Wikipedia doesn't have any translation services. But I did a Google search on "english gujarati online translation", and came across a few that might be good. E.g., http://www.oilzine.com/regulars/babelfish-translator.asp, or http://utopianvision.co.uk/gujarati/dictionary/, or http://www.freelang.net/online/gujarati.php. Hope this helps. • Anakin ^(talk) 15:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Correcting other people's typos

Well, I was looking at a discussion page, and someone made a typo. Is it alright if I edit their post out, so it's... readable, but still the same thing? This person made a few of them, and it was troublesome reading... —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Unwanted Comment (talk • contribs) 05:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

As long you are keeping their original meaning intact, feel free to correct major typoes. However, it isn't necessary to always spellcheck other editors' posts, as some people may dislike having their comments corrected. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 05:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Correct them yourself, or tell them by replying. Visit me at Ftbhrygvn (Talk | Contribs | Log) 07:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

If the problem is that it breaks the formatting of the page, feel free to do the minimum necessary to fix the formatting and note that you did that. While technically you could correct people's spelling and grammar in their comments, it is generally felt to be rude to do so on talk pages. In article space, go right ahead. If you're editing what someone actually said, people tend to take it badly. It's a bit like if you kept interrupting to say 'I think you meant to pronounce that ___" in a conversation, except that you're also making it look like they typed things they did not type.

By all means, if someone is making a consistent mistake find a nice way to point it out. Perhaps find a way of working versions of what they said into your own comments and type them correctly, so that you lead by example. If it's a mistake that really matters in terms of making a link work, or because they're going to include it in article space, point it out nicely. But silently 'correcting' people's comments on talk pages is likely to expose you to hostile reactions, plus they won't learn the right way to do it (unlike if you simply pointed the mistake out).

Worse than that, there is the very real danger that you will actually be changing what they said, or 'correcting' to a wrong version, because they were refering to something you were unaware of, using a word you didn't know or using a variety of English you are not familiar with. If somebody is writing with so many mistakes you can't actually follow what they're saying, nicely bring it up. Say something like "I'm having trouble following what you're saying. Do you mean'____'?". And always remember, he who lives by the sword... 130.88.140.107 (talk) 13:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Good Faith vs Copyvio

I'm in the process of reviewing an article for GA status, but have run into an issue I don't know how best to deal with. The "problem" is that the text of the article is by far the best prose I've ever read on wikipedia—it's all written by one user and all sourced to the same book. So, I'm torn between assuming in good faith that this user is simply a very good writer, or protecting wikipedia from copyright issues if indeed the article has been plagiarised from the text. Any advice on how I should proceed? --jwanders^Talk 06:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I would advise that you do your best to either get your hands on a version of that book, electronic or not, or see if anyone does have a copy, and compare the too. --Evan Seeds (talk)(contrib.) 06:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

You could try searching for the book using a Google book search. It may not be available or restricted too much to be useful but you never know. Has the editor who wrote the article written anything else so that you could compare his prose here with another example to see if there is a great disparity in writing ability?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Try picking a few sentences or phrases from the article and putting them through a Google search. It may be that another site has quoted from the book. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Images not being displayed

For the past 3-4 days, i am not able to view the images on the main page. This includes the WIKIcommon logos at the bottom. I am using IE7 and have Norton Internet Security on my laptop, and was able to see the images earlier. However, i have not made any changes to the settings. I'm sorry, but i looked up the FAQ and tech.help, but could not find the answer.

C Ghorpade (talk) 07:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

There are quite a few things that could cause this. I know my mother recently ran out of room in her temporary internet files, so you can try clearing that. Take a look here at the 2nd option under Internet Explorer, entitled "To completely clear the cache". Xiong Chiamiov ::contact:: ^help! 08:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, surprisingly often, people unintentionally block images from Wikipedia. Check any image blocking software you might have to make sure that files from upload.wikimedia.org are allowed. • Anakin ^(talk) 15:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Dual purpose: list & disamb

Is it ok to format an article to serve as both a list & disamb? It seems redundant to create two articles if one can accomplish both. Any recommendations? Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 08:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. I'd hesitate to do that, since lists and disambigs are widely-used standard formats; although there is Ignore all rules and be bold. Why not just have a disambiguation page and no list page, and have the name of the list page contain a redirect to the disambiguation page? --Coppertwig (talk) 13:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Take a look at at Old Jail Museum and let me know what you think of the format. It already contains several redirects to the page. I realize that a List of jail and prison museums was just created, but it seems redundant to me to have both, including mainteance issues invloved in maintaining two lists that basically serve the same purpose. Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 13:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

My reasoning in creating a list in addition to the disambiguation page was because disambiguation pages have one purpose and lists have another. As more items are added to the list that have nothing to do with the purpose of the disambiguation page, the list page will increasingly diverge in content and organization. The disambiguation page should be organized for its purpose of disambiguation of names. The list page should be organized for its purpose. Having two pages is easier for the reader and no harder for the editors. Also, Wikipedia:Disambiguation states that disambiguation pages should only be used for disambiguation purposes. Noroton (talk) 16:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Coppertwig or anyone else, I’m curious if using the Old Jail Museum article as a combination of disamb & list violates the spirit or intent for use of these in Wikipedia. In this case, it just seems like a good opportunity to accomplish both in one article because of the limited number of these types of museums & I’m all about being bold & innovative as you suggest. FieldMarine (talk) 17:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I suggest that everyone interested continue this discussion at Talk:List of jail and prison museums, and I've posted a comment there. --Coppertwig (talk) 02:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Adding information

Hi,

I got to know about an NGO called ETASHA, based in Delhi. However, WIkipedia has no information available about the same. I want to update the information for all to know about ETASHA's work, bu am not sure how to go about it. Please help.

Ritesh Datta (blanked email for privacy) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.224.71 (talk) 08:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

When you say NGO, do you mean non-governmental organization? FieldMarine (talk) 08:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

You can create an account. When your account is 4 days old, you can create an article. You can get more information here. Visit me at Ftbhrygvn (Talk | Contribs | Log) 13:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

You can actually create articles as soon as you get an account (some other things like moving pages and editing semi-protected pages requires 4 days old accounts). Here is general advice about creating a new article:

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Refused Article?

Dear Sir/Madam,

I would like to bring to your attention that a month ago or so I submitted a piece to be published on Wikipedia with regards to Antennae, the online Journal of nature in Visual Culture. It seems that my submission has not been accepted but as a member of wikipedia I have not received any email notifying me of the fact that the article was refused. Antennae, of which i am editor is a free, non funded online Journal devoted to the field of Animal Studies and Environmental Studies. The Journal, as my piece explained, is a unique focus for academic, artists and curators around the world. In my opinion it would be more useful to have the Journal on Wikipedia then to have articles around silly pop songs,(wikipedia is full of these).

Could you please have the decency to let me know what happened to my piece and what grounds it was deemed not publishable?

Kind regards

Giovanni Aloi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Giovanni.aloi (talk • contribs) 09:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Your request was at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/2008-01-18#Antennae.2C_Journal_of_Nature_in_Visual_Culture. It was declined with the comment: “This suggestion doesn't sufficiently explain the importance or significance of the subject. See the speedy deletion criteria (A7) and/or guidelines on notability. Please provide more information on why the subject is worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.” --teb728 t c 09:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Urgent Do it

Dear Sir I really shoked to see picture of Mohammad (PBUH) I Condemd it. Also asked to remove the picture from the web side —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.99.178.190 (talk) 12:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Please read the discussions at Talk:Muhammad and Talk:Muhammad/images. The consensual decision has been made that Wikipedia is not censored, and that inclusion of the images adds to the encyclopedic content of the article. Aecis^Brievenbus 12:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, editors have decided that pictures of Muhammad are acceptable, at least in some contexts like his biography and articles about depictions of Muhammad. Where is the picture that offended you? Depending on the picture and context, editors may choose to remove it. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

General agreement is that in the article on Muhammad the pictures are acceptable, but an editor recently brought up more discussion about this at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Muhammad image controversy, a proposal to revisit, and I agree with him. I suggest you read the discussion there and if you think you can give a good reason for the images' removal that hasn't already been dismissed and rebuked before, then add it. • Anakin ^(talk) 16:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Expert locked out of editing by amateur

I am considered by the Blackjack elite Don Schlesinger, Stanford Wong, et. al.) to be the world authority on the casino games Spanish 21 and Australian Pontoon. I have written a book on the subject, "The Pro's Guide to Spanish 21 and Australian Pontoon".(http://www.lulu.com/content/1239961), yet "JayMcDonald" has blocked me from editing the very page I created myself: Pontoon (game). I spent two hours entering in the basic strategy table for the game, which is not available anywhere else on the internet (and took 6 months of computer programming to generate). The next thing I knew, all my work had disappeared, thanks to JayMcDonald. This person's actions run counter to the Wikipedia ethos, the propagation of human knowledge. JayMcDonald has also ordered me not to remove "facts", when I removed one line that is incorrect, and had no references. A "fact" stands up to the burden of proof, and proof requires references. Can someone please sort this out? If you have lay people like JayMcDonald locking out experts, Wikipedia will degenerate into articles full of opinions from amateurs. Experts will be reluctant to contribute. From what I have read, it is not the first time that JayMcDonald has been a Wikipedia control-freak gatekeeper; other Wikipedians have made similar complaints. In fact, he has taken out the entire bibliography of Pontoon (game), with all references deleted, so that the article now presents as unsourced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iezegrim (talk • contribs) 12:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. The editor who reverted you did not remove your charts. Your "reference" was malformed and hence preventing the page from displaying. The editor could have repaired the problem by closing your reference (when you open a <ref>, you must include a properly formatted close </ref>), but probably chose instead to remove it as I have done because the link violates our external links guideline. That guideline indicates that we are to avoid "[l]inks to sites that primarily exist to sell products or services. For example, instead of linking to a commercial bookstore site, use the "ISBN" linking format, giving readers an opportunity to search a wide variety of free and non-free book sources." If you wish to provide a more full link to the book you've authored, you may certainly provide more information, but linking to a store that is selling it is not proper. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

You say that you added material that "is not available anywhere else on the internet". Wikipedia is not for first publication of original research, but rather for sourced and verifiable information that has already been published elsewhere. Please follow the links in this paragraph to see some of Wikipedia's policies. Another policy, which you violated in your posting above, is civility. Please address yourself to the content, assume good faith, and do not attack other editors. Thanks, Bovlb (talk) 22:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

288 page

I edited a page for the ferrari 288 GTO Evoluzione. After i finished, i saved it. later I looked it up and it WASNT THERE!!! What happened.

P.S. I am not a wikipedia user. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.53.235.64 (talk) 16:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

We had an article title 'Ferrari 288 GTO Evoluzione', but it was deleted as a copyright violation three years ago. Is this the page you edited? The topic is currently covered briefly at Ferrari 288 GTO#Evoluzione. Algebraist 16:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict)What was the exact page name? The IP address used in your post has no other registered edits, Ferrari 288 GTO has not been edited recently, and Ferrari 288 GTO Evoluzione was deleted in 2005. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

teeth

what are the habitate affect your future —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.81.226.4 (talk) 17:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I'm not sure what you mean. Can you please rephrase the question? We have articles on teeth and habitat. • Anakin ^(talk) 18:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This page is for help with Wikipedia. Try the reference desk science. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 19:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Need help with wikitable

When a table is aligned to the right is there a way to align a simple note placed outside the table just below it together with the table? kawaputra^torque 17:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This is a caption. In HTML, you can use a caption tag to get the effect. I do not know of any way to do it in wiki-markup. -- kainaw™ 18:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Found the answer at Help:Table Caption. kawaputra^torque 18:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Anyone know why the caption is in bold? I dont want it in bold. See the table here: Orang Asli. kawaputra^torque 10:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

It is not bold for me.--Patrick (talk) 11:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The class "wikitable" uses the variables at MediaWiki:Common.css of which for captions "font-weight: bold;". You can override this by adding "font-weight: normal;" to the style clause in your caption syntax. 86.21.74.40 (talk) 11:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

(ec) Eh, its still bold to me. Could it be a problem with my browser? kawaputra^torque 11:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. Works fine now. kawaputra^torque 11:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I want to close out my account ive created, and Have EVERYTHING deleted (only One Article repeated 4 times)

Is this posible? I want to start over, this website is not USER FRIENDLY AT ALL! I am starting to not like Wiki, can someone save me from this catastraphy?

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by PhiMediaInc (talk • contribs) 17:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I have deleted the image you uploaded and will blank your talk page. Starting over is a good idea, as your user name is problematic with regards to our username policy. Please see Wikipedia:Username policy. Taking the name of a company is not advised. Since you do not seem to want to have your previous edits associated with your new account, registering a new account may be your best decision. I'll note for future use that you apparently misunderstood and attempted to write an article in image space. These are distinct areas of Wikipedia. Once you've created a new account, if you'd like to create an article, please see Wikipedia:Your first article, which should hopefully give you all the information you need. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

how many combos

how many combos make $1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.175.122.129 (talk) 18:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This is a math question. Ask it on the Mathematics part of WP:RD. This page is for questions about Wikipedia. -- kainaw™ 18:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

catalytic converter

How does a catalytic converter work and can its non-use injure a cars engine? Bob A —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.136.26.235 (talk) 18:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This page is for asking questions about Wikipedia. See catalytic converter and ask on the WP:RD science desk if you have further questions. -- kainaw™ 18:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

How can a user with only one edit and no record of deletions have a blank user page?

At the following link http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=United_States_National_Health_Insurance_Act&diff=190950543&oldid=187240562 I noticed that the user called The RADAR has only one record of contributions, has a blank user page with no record of deletions by any other user. Nothing wrong with that but it made me wonder how this can be? When I created my user page I got a welcome message and if I blank the page it will create a record in page history. How did this user manage to get a blank user page (and more to the point why would anyone want to do that)? Is this an indication that the user is also an administrator?--Tom (talk) 19:21, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

The user talk page is created when someone first leaves a message there. Frequently the first message is a welcome message. It appears that no one has left them a welcome message yet. (It doesn't happen automatically.) --teb728 t c 19:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

That user simply never created either of their pages. Your user and user talk pages do not exist by default, and have to be created either by you or by another user leaving you a message, such as a welcome template. Unfortunately, not all users are welcomed, as it seems this one wasn't. No user with less than about 1000 edits would ever be accepted as an administrator unless they carried an exceptional level of trust with the community, which is what the application process is completely based upon. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Companies

I'm curious as to where the line is drawn for a company to be considered for a page. Is it revenue? A public vs. private issue? Cultural or historical importance? I see large companies like Microsoft, Boeing, Coca-Cola, etc. but then smaller companies are seen as only advertisements but what's the difference? If a company is a certifiable market leader, shouldn't they be considered? If someone could offer an explanation, that would be extemely helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ptomisser (talk • contribs) 19:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

The main concern is if they are notable. We have a special guideline for companies here that should be exactly what you're looking for. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Note that articles about notable companies can be deleted if they don't show the notability and are written like an advertisement, for example with positive claims about the company with no source, or the company itself as only source. If you are associated with a company you want to write about then see Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

help with editing

If any experienced editors have time, would they be willing to look at an article I have on my subuser page? I know I can use help, especially with the footnotes. I will contact you if you tell me know your wikipedia-registered names. Thank you.--Voiceperson (talk) 20:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

That's great work, I can make some adjustments if you want. For those who don't know, the page is at User:Voiceperson/Ryan Allen. Soxred93 | talk count bot 21:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

It's already better than most new articles. Sbowers3 (talk) 22:14, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

media/ artist pages

Where would I find a template for an actor's page? I am trying to set this actor's wikipedia page up in a traditional actor's profile with all the commentary boxes and an image on the side. How would I go about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.166.19.239 (talk) 20:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

You can use {{Infobox actor}}. Wikipedia:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers may also be of interest. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:08, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Suspected Plagerism

I'm Rick James (film) - reading it, it sounds like a blatant copy and paste from IMDB or the official website. Can someone peep this out for me? I'm on a PC that has limited web access. --Endless Dan 21:27, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

It was a copyvio of both sites, more the official website. I removed the entire plot synopsis as it was copy/pasted by the looks of it from the official website. And now I will leave a message on the talkpage explaining the plot removal just in case someone misses the edit summary explaination. Thanks for pointing out the copyvio. AngelOfSadness talk 21:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Disputed accuracy

How does one dispute the truth of an article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.185.199.155 (talk) 21:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

The entire article, or a specific assertion? Living or deceased subject? --Orange Mike | Talk 21:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Also are the assertions you dispute backed up by citations to reliable sources? Do you have citations which dispute them? --teb728 t c 22:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

If the article subject is suspected to be a hoax, you can tag it with {{hoax}} and consider taking to article for deletion. If there are certain facts in it that are unsourced that you think are wrong, they are unsourced, and you know better, be bold and replace them with correct facts, ideally citing to sources. If there are sources present but you don't think they back up what they are being cited for, some of these templates might be useful: {{citecheck}}, {{dubious}}, {{failed verification}}, or if the source is unreliable, {{verify credibility}}. However, if the material is negative or controversial, appears in an article on a living person, and is not well sourced, go ahead and just remove it. That's about all I can offer in the hypothetical, but see generally, Wikipedia:Template messages/Sources of articles for where these and other tags can be found.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Endorsements

Not sure if this question is in the right place but would it never be appropriate in an article on, say a specific football club, dietary supplement, animal, or car, have a section for "endorsements", and in this section list famous people who (don't have any other merits beside being famous) use, endorse, or speak positively about the use/existance of that object? Or would it be a judgement call? --Popoi (talk) 21:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

If I saw such a thing, I would tend to regard it as advertising, and remove such grossly non-encyclopedic content. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Makes sense. Actually looking closer at the article in question, i noticed that it is a blatant attempt of advertising. ( Spirulina (dietary supplement) ) I'll look into a possible reversal --Popoi (talk) 22:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

What's the opinion on all of the musician articles which list what instruments they use, by brand name, and the tennis players, which list what company's equipment they use? Corvus cornix_talk 23:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Referencing - A pretty Version?

Just randomly ended up on the Playstation 3 wiki and my lord is the referencing section ugly ugly. It's got no less than 178 references - taking up about 5 screens worth of viewing! I was just wondering if there has ever been any consideration to have a 'reference' page added to articles -the little 'ref' links could still move to that page, but we could then move them off the main page as they are often (for me) making the pages a lot less readable/approachable than they could otherwise be. ny156uk (talk) 21:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This question is more suited for the WP:HELPDESK. I've made it 3 columns wide instead of 2, which thus makes it shorter... Looks a bit better now? Scarian^{Call me Pat} 22:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

1. As far as I can see on Firefox, no, it's still two columns.

2. I agree with the first guy. That's pretty bad. ^F*^L*^RAP 23:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Really? It hasn't changed? I swear I changed the column width and made it into 3 columns... I'll take another look. Scarian^{Call me Pat} 23:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Same here still on 2 columns (Safari). I guess there's not much we can do, but wondered if anybody had ever looked into redesigning the way ref's are noted for articles with large amounts of references. ny156uk (talk) 23:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I read on some common browsers that it'll always look like two columns. I've had another stab at it... Care to hazard one last look? Scarian^{Call me Pat} 23:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Yep 3 columns on my browser. Fair bit shorter now - good work cheers for taking the time to look into it, i'm not really any good with the structural stuff on wikipedia. ny156uk (talk) 23:21, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

*Sigh...*

Why, when I first get on to Firefox and see the Main page, does my browser show that I am logged in, but when I go to any other page, it shows that I am logged out? I have been wondering this for a while and I can only presume that it has something to do with cookies, but...^F*^L*^RAP 22:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Why don't you try purging the cache? Ctrl+F5... Scarian^{Call me Pat} 22:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

TY. ^F*^L*^RAP 23:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Dell E1505

Hello, I like to know will max 2gb work in the E1505 I have two 1gb but Like to install the one max for more speed,and make it 3gb, will it work or speed up my pc? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.199.108.173 (talk) 22:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Ummm... This isn't exactly the place to ask that question, but no, you're going to need a faster processor. ^F*^L*^RAP 23:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Don't tell people it's the wrong forum and then attempt to answer anyway. --Popoi (talk) 23:08, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

February 13

Column summation

I have a table with a column which consists solely of numerical values. Is there any way to define a footer row which calculates the sum of that column's cells? Specifically, I wish to automatically calculate the sum for the "Minimum" and "Maximum" columns (respectively) in the Template:Project Chanology protests, February 10 2008 table. Thanks in advance! CounterFX (talk) 03:02, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

One way would be to put the values in an array, so that they can be used for display and for computing the sum without putting them twice in the wikitext. Another way might be with JavaScript, like is used for sorting.--Patrick (talk) 12:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... I was hoping for a predefined solution like for sorting, but I don't think there is one. Thanks. CounterFX (talk) 12:53, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

And on second thoughts, I don't feel that the summation should be given for that particular table, since the entries only give figures for protests which the press happened to cover, and should not be taken as representing any "global total". CounterFX (talk) 13:45, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Direct find and replace function for Wikipedia editing

Is there any program anyone knows of that would allow me to do a find and replace function directly for Wikipedia articles using internet explorer? Sure, I can cut and paste text into an external editor but that intermediate step is a big time waster when you're trying to do somewhat robotic edits. To be clear, as an example, after I have disambiguated a movie title from "Name (film)" to "NAME ([year] film)", I want to be able to go to an article that pipes the link five times and in edit mode just replace all the "Name (film)" to "NAME ([year] film)". If no one knowns of scuh an add-on for Internet Explorer (which I'm pretty married to), can you tell me if any other browers allow you to do this directly? Thanks in advance.--68.237.2.101 (talk) 03:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I believe AutoWikiBrowser is what you're looking for. Of course, it will require you to create an account to use it. Good luck! GlassCobra 03:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate the link but a new browser is not really what I'm after (if it exists). I just want to search and replace in my normal browser, just like ou would in word with the find and replace function. It seems like it should exist. All browsers have find, someone should be able to make an add-on to make it find and replace.--68.237.2.101 (talk) 04:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

FWIW, Firefox users can do this with wikEd. —Noah 04:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Incidentally, AWB is not an entirely new web browser, it's a program that automates various Wikipedia processes in conjunction with Internet Explorer. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Also see WP:EIW#EditSoft, WP:EIW#Bot, and WP:EIW#Tools. Unfortunately, a Web browser is a thin client by design, and typically has only a very simple built-in editor. This should eventually change as the Web 2.0 idea of mass collaboration catches on. (Wikipedia of course is a leading example of this.) The first 20 years of personal computing were all about companies like Microsoft making ever-thicker desktop applications with more more features, but they typically suck at sharing information with other people, so the common interchange format has traditionally been dead trees. Wikis are great for remote collaboration, but in the early going you have to give up the gazillion thick editor features many computer users take for granted now. I don't suppose fanatical Emacs users have this problem, since they can do everything in Emacs, including browse the Web. --Teratornis (talk) 19:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

part page transclusion

Is it possible to only transclude part of page, and not the whole page, for example to pull a sentence or two out of another article ? I have tried, for example, {{page#id of span tagged text}}, but it still pulls in the whole page. Pee Tern (talk) 03:53, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

No, you can't, although this isn't the first time it's been suggested as a feature (in fact, there might still be a similar query higher up on this page). What you can do is mark one part of the page to not appear when transcluded (by enclosing it in <noinclude></noinclude> tags), and/or mark a part to not appear when you visit the actual template page (by enclosing it in <includeonly></includeonly> tags). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes I am aware of the only/include tags but I wanted to have multiple different bits of text in an actual article transcluded, so they do not help unfortunatley. Pee Tern (talk) 06:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

article sub pages

Are article subpages completely banned? I had just created one and it got deleted almost immediately (because someone thought I was testing by accident, and did not ask first, and has since apologised). I wanted to use it to create a separately editable block of material without a section heading by transcluding it back into the main page with its own edit link. So, is it okay to do this, and if so how do I stop it being deleted by enthusiastic people. I do not want to protect it because it needs to be "normally" editable? If not, is there another way to do it? Pee Tern (talk) 04:05, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

As per Wikipedia:Subpages, no you're not allowed to use subpages in article space. In fact, article subpages have been turned off in the software, so that (for example) OS/2 is an article entitled "OS/2", not subpage "2" of the article "OS". In your case, you're just going to have to let the material be directly included in the article. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Sorry, I should have read Wikipedia:Subpages not so quickly! C'est la vie. Pee Tern (talk) 06:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The page does ntot exist any more and I cannot find it referenced in the delete log. Is this normal? Pee Tern (talk) 07:12, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The only registered deleted edit by you is the creation of /othertermdefn which is in the deletion log: [6]. I assume you wanted to use it for Law enforcement agency. If subpages were turned on in article space then it should have been at Law enforcement agency/othertermdefn to be a subpage. Page names starting with / are special. I used [[:/othertermdefn]] to make a link here from Wikipedia space where subpages are turned on. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

If you only want to use a piece of text in one article then I see no good reason to create it on another page. If you want to use it in more than one article then you can make a template in template space (starting with Template: ). PrimeHunter (talk) 11:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Folks, Thanks. Still learning the ropes I am. I was searching the log using 'Law enforcement agency/othertermdefn' and 'Pee Tern'. I am not sure how I created the page starting with a '/'. I used [[/othertermdefn]] on the page Law enforcement agency and then followed the link. I was trying to create a block of text with its own edit link that was not a section. For what it is worth, have a look at User:Pee Tern/Sandbox#Under Development where it seems to work exactly as expected. Cheers. Pee Tern (talk) 21:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

References

I was copyediting 10th Guards Uralsko-Lvovskaya Tank Division and tried to amend the References section but it only shows references/ in the edit box. How/where do I find the reference page? (I've tried the help section on references but couldn't find it.) LuckyThracian (Talk) 04:07, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

With the <ref></ref> function, you place the references in the body of the article. When saved, where you see them is in the references section, after the reference markup such as references/ (or {{Reflist}}). Use the find function on your computer (cntrl+F usually) while in edit mode and search for <ref>. Each footnoted reference will be found this way. In that article, there is only one.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:12, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

See more at Wikipedia:Footnotes. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:33, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, got it! Thankyou both. LuckyThracian (Talk) 02:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Album Cover Fair Use

I uploaded a copy of an album cover I own where the article had the picture missing and I have tried to understand what I have to do to show it as fair useage but have drawn a blank. Is there a simple step by step function I should be taking? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simmouk70 (talk • contribs) 10:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Give WP:FAIRUSE a read through, perhaps? Hope it helps. Scarian^{Call me Pat} 10:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Or maybe ask your question at the Wikipedia:Image copyright help desk... you may be able to get a more detailed response? Scarian^{Call me Pat} 10:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I see User:Nanonic has added a pro forma fair use rationale. The only problem is that the image is at far too high a resolution for the rationale given to apply. You should reupload it at 300x300 px or so. Algebraist 12:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Quantity of edits and editors

We would like to know where we can view numbers of edits of each individual article. We would also like to know where it is possible to see the number of number of unique editors (number of individuals contributing to the editing process) of an article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.47.89.75 (talk) 13:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Every article has a page history which is accessible by clicking on the button labeled "history" at the top of the page. Using the history, you can see every editor who has edited, the number of edits, and it allows you to look at how the article existed at every point in its history and what each person did by comparing diffs. There are also various tools which draw statistics out of this function which you might find easier to look at for a broad overview. Enter an article name at this site.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:11, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Linking to an image page

Hi, does anyone know the syntax to link to a wikipedia image page? I can do it with an "external" link to to the full Wikipedia URL, but I imagine that shouldn't be necessary. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Surot (talk • contribs) 14:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

For any page you can insert a colon at the beginning to have it appear as a link rather than as (e.g.) an image. This works for Images, Templates, Categories. So [[:image:your image]]. Sbowers3 (talk) 14:21, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Great, that works just fine. Thanks for the quick response. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Surot (talk • contribs) 14:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Tomeraider 3 is shut down every time I look up words beginning with the letter "z"

Dear Sirs I visited your web site and downloaded wp-En-ppc-txt.tr3 (1.1 Gigabyte file) but I can’t look up words beginning with the letter “Z” because an error message emerges and the program is obligatorily shut down. The rest of the dictionary is usable but the above problem occurs when the words beginning with the letter “z” are entered to be looked up. Could you assist me solve this problem? Thank you for your hints. Sincerely yours M. Shamsara

my email address: <email address removed to protect privacy> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.165.26.81 (talk) 14:29, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.

However, I suggest that you may wish to visit the TomeRaider website for assistance. Thanks —Travis^talk 16:56, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Help regarding merging an Article

I want to inquire something regarding merging an article. Previous month i proposed merging of the article Risalpur Airbase to Pakistan Air Force Academy . I stated the merge proposal here and added merge template to the article Risalpur Airbase [7]. After about a month(24 days) was gone, i merged(Selective Merge) Risalpur Airbase into Pakistan Air Force Academy. And stated all that at the merge discussions [8]. Now a user reverted all the merging and said "Note that you cannot merge if you don't get a response. You didnt place the {{merge}} on either of the pages to show that a merge has been proposed." and also issued me notice {{Uw-notvote}}. So i want to ask that what one should do after that much time if still no one has responded to the merge proposal? --SMS ^Talk 16:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Merging is just a kind of editing. You don't need permission to merge any more than for any other kind of editing. It is a good idea to discuss on the talk page before any editing that might be controversial - not just merges. It is common to suggest a change on the editing page, wait a bit to see if there any comments, then proceed with the proposed edit or, in this case, a merge. I would ask the other editor to explain why he thinks that your edits are wrong - not in terms of the procedure you followed but in terms of the content. Sbowers3 (talk) 17:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure! Thanks a lot! --SMS ^Talk 17:41, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Second Link

Suppose I had ===Swordmaster Style=== several times in one article, and I wanted to make a link on another page to the second occurence of this. How would I do that?Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 16:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The first occurrence is linked to in the traditional manner – simply specify the page name, a #, and the section name (all without intervening spaces). Example: List of most popular given names#Male names. To link to subsequent occurrences, use the same notation as above, but add the occurrence number after the section name (with an intervening space). Example: List of most popular given names#Male names 2 for the second occurrence, List of most popular given names#Male names 3 for the third, and so on. I would recommend you to use piping to make the links better presented. Hope this helps! CounterFX (talk) 16:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

It does, thank you. But to remove ambiguity, would I be able to use List of most popular given names#Male names 1 for the first occurrence as well?Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 17:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

All section linking can be piped For example:

What the code is	What it gives
[[List of most popular given names#Male names | Foobar 1]]	Foobar 1
[[List of most popular given names#Male names 2 | Foobar 2]]	Foobar 2
[[List of most popular given names#Male names 2 | Foobar 3]]	Foobar 3

...and so on. Hope this helps! --omtay38 17:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

From empirical tests, adding a 1 for the first occurrence (e.g. List of most popular given names#Male names 1) does not work. If you're familiar with HTML: Only one named anchor tag is generated for each header – in the case of the first occurrence, it is <a name="Male_names" id="Male_names"></a>; for the second, it is <a name="Male_names_2" id="Male_names_2"></a>; and so on. Since for several situations (think talk pages) the lower sections would have been added chronologically after those above them, changing the anchor name for the first section would cause links already established to it (without the 1) to break. If you wish to give a consistent appearance, you could use omtay38's recommendation for piping. CounterFX (talk) 18:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Link

Why is there a link to the Wikipedia page for "Say Anything (band)" at the top of my firebox browser? And a Log in/Create account? I don't want them there. I didn't think wikipedia was into that unclassy kind of internet bullying. Tell me how to get rid of it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.117.108 (talk) 17:43, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Under the default Wikipedia style there is always a link in the top-right corner to Log in / create account (unless you log in, of course!), but I have no idea why there should be a link to an article about some random band. When you say it's at the "top of" Firefox, do you mean at the top of the Wikipedia page, or on a toolbar or bookmarks bar? It's possible you've inadvertently dragged a page to the bookmarks bar and saved a link to it. Or maybe somebody else used your computer and bookmarked a page. If that's so and you want to get rid of it, right-click on it, and click 'Delete'. • Anakin ^(talk) 18:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Violation of Wikipedia's policy on advertising and conflicts of interest on external links

For the past several days PoncaPortal has repeatedly posted an external link that violates Wikipedia's policy on advertising and conflicts of interest on external links.

What is the next step for handling this type of issue if it continues?

Best Regards,

Reservoirhill (talk) 18:20, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

First you would warn the user following the instructions on that page. Then, if the behavior persists, fill a report at Administrator intervention against vandalism. Hope this helps! --omtay38 18:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the guidance. Reservoirhill (talk) 18:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Error

Every time when i logged into wikipedia I cant found my user page, instead of this i found:"Error, Setup.php must be included from the file scope, after DefaultSettings.php". If i not logged in, this time it also happens.But all other pages e.g. talk page, watchlist are okay.Everytime I've to purge. Without purging page is not showing. Clearing cache (both browser and server) is not solved the problem. What should i do? Tanvir che (talk) 19:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I had not heard of this error before. We can search the Help desk for: setup.php, but that finds nothing. We can search the entire Web:

• Error, Setup.php must be included from the file scope, after DefaultSettings.php

which finds some mentions, but these all seem to involve people who get the error on their own wikis that they set up by installing MediaWiki themselves. I can browse to Tanvir che with no obvious problems. Are you sure are actually browsing to your user page on the English Wikipedia and not on some other wiki? Maybe someone else can give a better answer. --Teratornis (talk) 19:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I got that error a couple of times today. I am not sure what it is abour. I got it when I tried to edit user talkpages. I simply refreshed my browser (accepting the resubmittal of postdata) and it worked fine. You might want to ask your question over at the technical village pump. Regards. Woody (talk) 19:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I found another Wikipedia user who reported the problem:

• User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough/wikierrors#Error, Setup.php must be included from the file scope, after DefaultSettings.php

so I guess it is possible to get this error from Wikipedia. The questioner mentions that the error also occurs regardless of being logged in. That seems to rule out any involvement from the user's Preferences. I have noticed that having an intermittent connection to the Internet can cause Wikipedia pages to download incompletely, and that can cause all sorts of weird problems, although I haven't seen this particular one myself. --Teratornis (talk) 19:41, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

More on inserting copyright

Thank you for your response to my earlier question, but it isn't the type of copyright that has me stumped so much as HOW to insert copyright information. I do not understand the use of the templates, and cannot see how to retro fit copyright info onto the finished Agriculture in the Classroom page. Thanks --Akaitc (talk) 19:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I have had to delete an article you significantly contributed to, Agriculture in the Classroom. It was a violation of the copyrights of i.a. [9]. Articles on Wikipedia have to be released under the GNU Free Documentation License. If you want to know how to release the now deleted content, please read WP:COPYREQ. Aecis^Brievenbus 19:11, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

You should edit the image description pages, Image:AITC-IL-Germination.JPG for example, and insert the tag corresponding to the license you have been granted. --teb728 t c 21:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Question on verifiable sources.

My question is what TRULY consititutes a verifiable resource. It seems several people seem to ignore the "rules" on this when taking over pages. The idea that certain people are in charge of certain articles creates a cronyism that doesn't gel well with the concept of Wiki's. FOr example, I have been fighting an uphill battle with the folks over on the "BIG BROTHER 9" page who post things that haven't happened yet by using a "live feed" as a source... of course this is NOT VERIFIABLE, so they should be removed. However hte cronyism comes into play, and the people who claim this page win out. This is what will be the downfall of Wikipedia - when people stake claim on articles without thinking of the overall good. RMThompson (talk) 20:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

We do have a guideline against ownership of articles - I'll take a look and issue a notice to the other editors if this is the problem. However, you are correct - live feeds are not verifiable or reliable sources. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

After reviewing the article (I didn't really know what Big Brother was until now), it seems the other editors do have a point. Since this is an upcoming show, information may appear that isn't immediately available on something that is considered reliable. I know the while The Amazing Race is running, the article will be updated several times before the end of the show, before the verifiable results are posted on the website. Once the show begins, more and more verifiable sources will be present, and you will be able to confirm the information currently present with those sources. As was explained on the talk page, that is the purpose of the blue ambox message. Whenever an ambox is present on a page, it's a notice to the reader that information may not be 100% reliable, due to an issue that either needs to be corrected or will be corrected in time (as it is in this case).

If you're still not sure about things, you may want to open a request for comment to get some other opinions on this. First, though, I'd recommend trying to talk it over with the other editors. If things get too heated, step back and calm down for a while. There's plenty of ways to get this sorted out. Don't worry about it too much. I hope this has helped some. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I just feel that the live feeds aren't verifiable and therefore cannot be used. What's happening is that an editor is watching the LIVE FEEDS and then changing the information based on what they see. However CBS has changed information in the past, so until something AIRS, I don't think it should be considered reliable. Im not concerned with information that will be available, but information gotten early, from watching the live feeds, and then leaked onto the main page. The main page is about a TV SHOW and the live feeds are NOT a part of that show, they are an option. The show has started, its not an upcoming show... Your example was Amazing Race, well what if someone posted results that hadn't happened on the show yet and therefore were unreliable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RMThompson (talk • contribs) 21:55, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Closing

Can someone point me in the direction of the closing templates so that in future i may close discussions? Simply south (talk) 20:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The template to use differs for the type of discussion. WP:DPR contains the code needed to close deletion discussions, although as you are not an admin, you should ideally only close snowball keeps, and also not close discussions in which you were involved. Allowing admins to close other discussions makes the process run a bit smoother. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:08, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Not all discussions are deletion discussions. There are moving discussions discussions over issues etc. It is okay to do non-admin closures. What about closures where the person withdraws?

And thank you for that link. Simply south (talk) 21:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Creating an account; forgotten user name

I'm interested in becoming a contributer, so I looked into creating an account. However, I already have accounts on dozens of websites, and I figured I might have already created one here years in the past, but the standard way for me to check that is by entering my email address, and the website checking if there are any usernames connected to that email address. I found no such option on your site. What should one do if (s)he's forgotten his/her user name? I could create a new account, but OCD is causing me great worry over redundant accounts. Is it a problem to have multiple accounts? If so, or even if not, is there a way for me to regain info about an account (that is, username and password) using only the email address? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.238.147.221 (talk) 22:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

You can try Special:Listusers to see if you created an account. Enter a name and if it appears as an exact match, then it exists. Unfortunately, if you didn't set an e-mail for your account, you have to create another one. On Special:Userlogin, you can enter your username and click "E-mail new password", you can try that if you have in fact created an account here. XENON54 | talk 22:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Annoyingly it isn't possible to email a new password without knowing the user name. But I would say - try not to worry about it if you try a few names at Special:Listusers and still cannot find any old account. There are over six million registered user names, the vast and overwhelming majority of which have never been used (I reckon). Unused accounts are harmless and can be ignored, being nothing more than a name in a list. • Anakin ^(talk) 00:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Note: I filed bugzilla:13015 earlier, asking for lost username retrieval as a new software feature. No guarantees on it being implemented, or how long it would take, but it's there. • Anakin ^(talk) 03:08, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

that you for the quick response

References

Is it more appropriate to use <references/> or {{reflist}} on an article? ^F*^L*^RAP 22:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

From Wikipedia:Footnotes: "It is common when there is a long list of references (as a rule of thumb, at least ten) to replace the basic <references /> tag with {{Reflist}}, which reduces the text size to 90%." Hope this helps! --omtay38 23:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Numeric accuracy

I've come up against an editor who is fixated on writing percentages with 4 digits of accuracy, which I think is ridiculous. For example:

Boris Tadić won 1,457,030 votes or 35.39% in the first round. In the second round on February 3 2008, he faced Tomislav Nikolić. According to final results Boris Tadić won the election with 50.57 % or 2,257,105 votes.

I think this is silly for an encyclopedia article, and rounded the percentages to three digits of accuracy (personally, I think two digits would be most suitable),

Boris Tadić received 1,457,030 votes (35.4%) in the first round. In the second round on February 3 2008, he faced Tomislav Nikolić and won the election with 2,257,105 votes (50.6%).

but this editor reverts my edits. Is there anything in Manual of Style about this? Other guidelines? Thanks. --RenniePet (talk) 23:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The only policy I can find is at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Percentages. I'd say either bring it up on the talk page, or just let it go. As long as the percentage is accurate, edit warring isn't needed over one digit. --omtay38 23:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

(ec)Not really. MOS:NUM#Decimal places states:

The number of decimal places should be consistent within a list or context (The response rates were 41.0 and 47.4 percent, respectively, not The response rates were 41 and 47.4 percent, respectively).

and that is all it really mentions about your problem. WP:WPE&R (WikiProject Elections & Referenda) does not have any standards when it comes to the number of decimal places. XENON54 | talk 23:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you who answered. OK, I'll just let it go. But he really does irritate me - in another article he had written

On January 20, 2008, Nikolić won the first round with 39.99% of the vote.

I changed that to

On January 20, 2008, Nikolić won the first round with 40% of the vote.

and he promptly reverted me. I think it looks crazy, and makes people wonder about Wikipedia. --RenniePet (talk) 23:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Scientifically, and simplifying a bit, the number of significant digits is determined by the accuracy or level of error in the measurement. If the count is believed to be accurate to within 100 votes out of 1,000,000 then the percentages can be plus/minus .01%, so 4 significant digits would seem to imply that the count was accurate to within 100 votes in every 1,000,000 counted. If the count was only accurate to within 1000 votes in 1,000,000 then the the percentage should only be to .1%. But yes I too would think nn.nn% is a bit over the top! Pee Tern (talk) 00:31, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

February 14

Why are level 5 section headings minute?

When using a level 5 section heading it is only half the size of normal text, not bolded. Is this correct? Or is Internet explorer playing up on me? Pee Tern (talk) 00:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

To me it looks like the size of normal text... Do you mean a 'section heading' as in the equals signs? Scarian^{Call me Pat} 00:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

That is level 6, not level 5. Level five is just bolded text (for all intents and purposes). Prodego ^talk 00:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

The section headings between =s as in

======A Section Heading======

It is 6 =s which is level 5 because level one starts with 2=s?

It looks more like a page footnote than a section heading. Pee Tern (talk) 02:38, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Two equals signs is a level 2 heading. One equals sign (level 1 heading) is what's used for the page titles (and, against W3C guidelines, on long talk pages like this help desk for separating dates). Thing is, I don't see how a level 6 heading could be styled as anything else that would still be different and more diminutive than a level 5 heading, but different to normal text. But if any article needs that many levels of headings, I think it needs some serious restructuring! • Anakin ^(talk) 03:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

WHAT HAPPEN?

No images are loading for me on WP... what's going on? Is there something wrong on my end or did the server get raped? Ziggy Sawdust (talk) 01:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Your browser may not be loading images automatically. I can't say much for other browsers, but if you have Firefox just go to the Tools tab, click Options, and access the Content tab. You should see a checkbox that says "Load images automatically"; if it isn't checked, check it. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 01:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Seems to me that this question has been coming up strangely a lot the last few days, so maybe there is something up with the servers. There was a very similar question to this earlier: #Images not being displayed, where I suggested making sure there wasn't any software, or the web browser itself, blocking Wikipedia images. • Anakin ^(talk) 02:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Is there a way for a picture to include a hyper/wiki-link?

I want to be able to click on a picture and it take me to the website that shows my edit count. Is this possible? Thanks, PGPirate 01:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

There are two ways (that I know of) to do this; first, you could use a {{click}} template. However, that template is a bit messy when it comes to certain code/browsers. Another alternative is the imagemap extension. More instructions on how to use each can be found on the respective pages. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 01:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

A Userbox

Where can i find the userbox stating that a user is going to be away due to mental illness? Thank-You. Yeltsinfan (talk) 01:58, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

You could just create one using {{userbox}}. For example;

This user is away due to a mental illness.

Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 02:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Banning

Does Wikipedia IP ban users such as "Physics Magazine Guy" a.k.a. Yeats30 who repeatedly post homework questions or break other such rules.(Anyone that looks at the science or math ref desks much will know who I'm talking about). It just seems something should be done. Thanks, Zrs 12 (talk) 03:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Nope. From Wikipedia:Blocking policy: "Users may be blocked from editing by an administrator to protect Wikipedia and its editors from harm." Posting to the WP:RD doesn't really cause harm. It may be a nuisance, but not harm. --omtay38 03:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Why not? Zrs 12 (talk) 03:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Because blocking is a last resort, and should never be applied freely. We only use it for blatant vandals and people who are being disruptive; minor things like this warrant a note on the editor's talk page, not a block notice. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 03:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah yes, I see. However, this user has been notified on his talk page. Yet he has still done it. This is a repeated, blatant violation of the reference desk rules. This does not cause harm per se but is still a blatant violation. And yet they still can't be blocked? Zrs 12 (talk) 03:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Couldn't this be considered trolling?--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions|Guest)} 03:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion, I would consider it trolling. Directly from the article: "Trolling is deliberate violation of the implicit rules of Internet social spaces." However, this is not an official Wikipedia guideline page. Zrs 12 (talk) 03:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I think considering this trolling would be a stretch, but is a possibility. I have warned the user another time because he/she had asked another question after the previous notice. I'm not sure the course of action to be taken if this pattern of behavior continues. --omtay38 03:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Omtay. However, I think there should be (or maybe is) a guideline to deal with situations such as this. If there is not though, should a consensus try to be reached as to the action following another of these posts? Zrs 12 (talk) 03:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

If the user continues and pays no heed, then that's stepping into the realm of disruptive behaviour. If they do so, I'll warn them with something sterner. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 04:05, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Another approach would be to simply answer the question(s)... incorrectly.(sorry, I couldn't resist the smartass remark) Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 04:13, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Valentines Day

Does this have anything to do with St Valentie ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.212.193.204 (talk) 03:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Please see Valentine's Day for more information. In the future, remember to use the reference desk to ask questions about specific knowledge; the help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. Thank you, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 04:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)