Talk:Prima scriptura

Cleanup

There are a number of items that should be done here. First, which denominations or theologians advocate this doctrine? (looking at the creator's orther edits, I'd guess it's at least an Adventist formulation.) Second, I don't think the article fairly represents sola scriptura. Many Protestants who believe the former do value tradition (especially for help interpreting the Bible) and would more accurately fit under prima scriptura. The only ones who wouldn't qualify would be radical Anabaptists, fundamentalists, etc., who actually reject tradition ("No creed but Christ" and all that). In what sense is tradition secondary to the Bible in prima scriptura? Third, the Roman Catholic view is caricatured unfairly, methinks. Their doctrine is not as fixed as it may appear from a distance. Just some thoughts. --Flex 15:42, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

I agree. I wandered upon this page accidentally, and clearly it needs some work. KHM03 15:57, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

The chief sin of this article is that it is a complete distortion of sola scriptura. Is it supposed to describe the Anglican view? Maybe the Quadrilateral? Mkmcconn (Talk) 16:50, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

I believe Anglican; the Quadrilateral has its own article. KHM03 17:02, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

I also believe it can probably be cleaned up fairly easily. I've heard the view before, though I've never heard it called "prima scriptura" (actually, I personally believe that all evangelicals are "prima scriptura" people...but that's another story). KHM03 17:07, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

All evangelicals believe that the Bible's meaning is known by Christian people, and that this understanding is shared - faith is not a private interpretation, but a communion in truth. They believe in the holy catholic church (and many used to rehearse this confession as an element of their worship). They believe that there is departure from orthodoxy can be so radical that there is no salvation in it, and regardless of whether this apostasy is supposed to be justified by reference to the Bible, it is heresy. Mkmcconn (Talk)

In other words, all evangelicals mean "Scripture first", when they say 'tota scriptura' if what someone thought is that they meant 'me + plus + the Bible, by myself'. On the other hand, ANYone can say "Scripture first". Roman Catholics, Orthodox, ecclecticists, mystics and spiritualists, "Present truth" Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses, and believers in the charismatic gift of private prophetic guidance. These all Speak as though sola scriptura/tota scriptura contradicts their belief. They want a place for something else as an original source of authority for the Christian faith. Perhaps that's what "prima scriptura" means. Otherwise, prima scriptura is just another way of saying sola scriptura. Mkmcconn (Talk) 17:45, 19 July 2005 (UTC)