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::I want to reiterate I believe [[User:Taquito1|Taquito1]] ([[User talk:Taquito1|talk]]) is only attempting to improve the article. I really need your review and others to see if I am inadvertantly creating a POV. Thanks! [[User:JohninMaryland|JohninMaryland]] ([[User talk:JohninMaryland|talk]]) 10:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::I want to reiterate I believe [[User:Taquito1|Taquito1]] ([[User talk:Taquito1|talk]]) is only attempting to improve the article. I really need your review and others to see if I am inadvertantly creating a POV. Thanks! [[User:JohninMaryland|JohninMaryland]] ([[User talk:JohninMaryland|talk]]) 10:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

:::I will be glad to take a look at the article and weigh in, but it may be Monday morning before I can give it my full attention due to my unusual work schedule this week. At first glance, I think Taquito's concerns are valid. The length is a serious issue, but I think that can be fixed easily without losing the essential narrative of events. There are some POV issues, the narrative tends to draw the conclusion for the reader. Neutralizing some of the weasle and peacock words and sentences will make it easier for the reader to draw their own conclusion (which in this case will more than likely mirror the POV that this article currently has). Conversely, NPOV doesn't mean blind to what happened or be so dispassionate as to make a reader remain neutral after reading the article. The telling of historical events tends to be POV and I don't think it can ever be entirely neutral no matter how hard the writer tries. The two of you seem to be working toward the same goal, a good article. I will give this a more thorough 'look-see' in the next day or so and put in my two cents on specifics. [[User:Jacksinterweb|Jacksinterweb]] ([[User talk:Jacksinterweb#top|talk]]) 15:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Revision as of 15:37, 17 February 2008

Monkey

Hey Monkey, don't sweat their silliness, just avoid their clubhouse. He/she had lot of options and chose to whack you across the knuckles, but you can see his/her history to see he/she needs angst to feel useful. Glad you walked away from it.

Check out some of the hawgs on Commons, some great shots! But I digress, I finally put something on my page (that does NOT mean I will "edit"....much ;-P ) Can I paste a commons pic on my user page?

I am going to tinker on here for a bit and probably won't see you til later tonight (going to BP GLZ). LYA, Monkey! GptVestal (talk) 16:56, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Awwwwww How sweet! Like getting a note in my lunch box (please stop that, the mayo makes the "monkey notes" hard to read). LYA Back At you. Jacksinterweb (talk) 21:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

why do you want to ban me from editing what did i do wrong?? explain me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simlabahn (talkcontribs) 23:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to ban you. I want you to behave and stop making non-sense edits. If you have something useful to add, you are more than welcome (as long as they are sourced and not jokes). BTW you weren't "banned," just blocked for a short amount of time. Jacksinterweb (talk) 00:16, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you, Jacksinterweb, for your kind response and for making sure the other commenter didn't "bite" me. All the best, CLKL (Juggling Frogs - the one from the cookie cutter page) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jugglingfrogs (talkcontribs) 01:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays

Thanks for your help

Milhist Service Award
For tagging and assessing 1000 articles in Tag & Assess 2007, I hereby present you with this Milhist Service Award. --ROGER DAVIES talk 08:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your fine work on 2000 articles in Tag & Assess 2007, I hereby present you with this barnstar. --ROGER DAVIES talk 08:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help with Tag & Assess 2007 and happy holidays! --ROGER DAVIES talk 08:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Iola

While placing these templates, like on Katy, I saw Iola, which says that the community "will vote" on incorporation last November. If you live locally, could you check local sources on this? Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 12:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking! My Texas geography isn't the best, especially when the state map I'm working with shows only the counties and the cities are unmarked, so I had no idea that it was very far away :-) I'm taking your advice and talking with a more northerly editor. Nyttend (talk) 13:29, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Chicken balls

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Chicken balls, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Chicken balls.

I just requested permission for this photo from Flickr. The guy actually has his screen name as "Chicken ball!" He must be crazy about this food. If he gives his permission I'll upload it to the article. Badagnani (talk) 02:25, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
LOL nothing odd about that! Its good to know chicken balls has friends, lord knows it does seem to irk two dudes! Go figure. Jacksinterweb (talk) 02:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello; (071221) am new to Wikipedia so may have made mistakes but seriously the article about Christmas ham, there is someone trying to make it look like it was from 'country' only and the country in question may well have been populated _after_ people already ate ham during the time now known as Christmas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IndianaJonesy (talkcontribs) 17:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Help with Christmas Eve supper

Hey, I don't take it personally. I've actually never tried to edit a wiki entry before. I just honestly thought I could post this and someone would correct it since I didn't know any of the rules and guidelines. Any recoomendations for correction or tips to make it a good entry?

Geno's

Please see [Talk:Geno's Steaks]]. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 02:42, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Candy cane

An article that you have been involved in editing, Candy cane, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Candy cane. Thank you. --BJBot (talk) 22:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 03:42, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Project Shells

The documentation for {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} says 3 or more.
Here are some other tips (I've tagged/assessed quite a bit of articles, see my userpage):

  • If you cannot see the TOC on first view, add this to the extreme top of the talk page: {{skiptotoctalk}}
  • If you upgrade an assessment from Stub to Start, remove the stub tag on the article itself, or else a bot will revert your assessment.

Hope this helps, and do not hesitate if you have any further questions. -MBK004 19:59, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Affluence of Cypress

If there is a news article about Cypress that describes the city as affluent, take that and say "Sue O of Morgan Daily News describes Cypress as "affluent"" WhisperToMe (talk) 23:25, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year

Firstly, let me wish you a very happy New Year and thank you for all your help in the recent Milhist Tag & Assess 2007 drive.

Secondly, although the Tag & Assess 2007 drive is now officially closed, you are very welcome to continue tagging and assessing until 31 January 2008. Any articles you tag and assess during this time will be credited fully to your tagging tally for further award purposes.

Thirdly, if you have the time, it would be good to have your feedback/comments on the drive at the Tag & Assess workshop

Thanks again for your help, --ROGER DAVIES talk 09:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Films December 2007 Newsletter

The December 2007 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 21:47, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, Jacksinterweb! Given your interest in classics and films from the 1930s, so I thought I could solicit your assistance. I've submitted two articles for peer review, and thought that you might be of some help in critiquing them:

  • Duck Soup. I've listed this article for peer review because, even though I and other editors have contributed much information and references, I'm certain that there are other aspects of this classic film that have yet to be covered. I'd like to hear feedback from you, so that I can get help in improving this (and other Marx Brothers films) quality.
  • Princess Leia Organa. I've listed this article for peer review because it right now seems oddly cluttered and, despite a lot of references as of now, lacks reliable source citations. Although I've already requested another peer review, as long as it helps the articles get better, I've got the time. Any helpful comments will certainly be appreciated, as this should help me in expanding other Star Wars-centric articles.

If you wish to leave creative feedback, you may, after reviewing, go to those articles's discussion pages and follow the relevant links. Thanks! — Cinemaniac (talkcontribs) 18:02, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter January 2008

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter January 2008
--Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC (talk) 05:35, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Texas articles

The Working Man's Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to Jacksinterweb for his hard work in tagging and classifying articles related to Texas. The effort is very much appreciated! Karanacs (talk) 15:12, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for doing such a thankless task. You popped up on my watchlist a few times this weekend tagging articles I had created and forgotten to mark -- thanks for catching my oversight and welcome to WikiProject Texas. Karanacs (talk) 15:12, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've worked on the article on the Chicken Ranch, Jodi Thomas, Kevin Fowler, Jack Crain and several others you had touched recently. I try to rate articles when I get a chance, but the backlog is so overwhelming that I usually don't do more than a few at a time and then I dig into content instead. I'm working on cleaning up and expanding all of the Texas history articles right now, and any input is welcome. Thanks again for digging into this job - and good luck! Karanacs (talk) 18:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome to Wikipedia and Happy Editing! Johntex\talk 19:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question about importance scale ratings

Hi. You added the WikiProject Texas importance scale ratings to the following articles: 2007 Texas Tech Red Raiders football team and 2007 Texas Longhorn football team. You rated the Texas Tech article as low inportance and the Longhorn article as Mid importance. I'm not complaining. I'm just trying to understand the difference. When you have a chance, I'd appreciate if you'd explain it to me. Thanks and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia! →Wordbuilder (talk) 21:13, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I'm not extremely familiar with the ins and outs of the WikiProjects so I thought I might just be missing something. Thanks for the reply and the fix. Keep up the great work. →Wordbuilder (talk) 00:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings Jack

my name is Rich and I'm even newer to Wikipedia than you are. I noticed you because you're put some talk on the po-boy page, and also that you live in HOU (as I do). So, I say to you, GREETINGS, jacksinterweb! rich (talk) 21:51, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is it me - or does Wikipedia seem a might bit too complicated to use sometimes? Carrollton Avenue is a good lead. I have cousins still there in New Orleans (mostly North Shore) I can ask. And friends who are po-boy addicts. I'll ask around and let you know. Looks like we have even more in common - I noticed you've got Barack on your talk page. He's not really my candidate, but close enough. Frankly, it's enough just to know there's another Democrat in Texas. Cheers. rich (talk) 08:03, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

say, how do i go about getting those cool icons or symbols that people use on their personal page?rich (talk) 18:15, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch that! Interesting article and I couldn't find anything it overlapped with. Tagged B-class Milhist. Thanks! --ROGER DAVIES talk 18:54, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks from WikiProject Houston

The Working Man's Barnstar
In recognition of your tireless work with classification and assessment of articles related to WP:HOU. Thank you! Postoak (talk) 02:45, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, you have added the Texas tag to a few Wild Bunch related articles. Laura Bullion is a Texas native, that might be a good addition, too. As her early years are somewhat unclear the inclusion in the Texas project might point editors to the topic to contribute more facts and information. doxTxob \ talk 04:22, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks! I almost missed her, I actually read her article and followed links away. forgetting to tag her (uhhhh...you know what I mean;). Jacksinterweb (talk) 04:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Films January 2008 Newsletter

The January 2008 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have any suggestions for improvement or desire other topics to be covered, please leave a message on the talk page of one of the editors.Thank you. Nehrams2020 (talk) 01:32, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

The Working Man's Barnstar
Jacksinterweb, I award you this barnstar for your work in tagging articles related to WikiProject Texas. Thank you. →Wordbuilder (talk) 16:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

9/11 Truth Vandalism

Um it was documente don a national radio show. How is that vandalism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.122.143.129 (talk) 19:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Put aside the issue of undue weight that your edit gives to a non relevant issue, Wikipedia is not a bulletin board to post any thing you want, where ever you want. Inserting the 9/11 Conspiracy in the middle of the tables concerning Willie Nelson's works is a disruptive edit. Your track record speaks for it self. Jacksinterweb (talk) 22:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Roy Orbison tattoo

Hi I was pleased to notice that you removed the backside tattoo nonsense - I've deleted similar comments three times myself. Good work. --CanOfWorms (talk) 13:12, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you for pointing out that I restored vandalism. Sometimes I am a bit too quick, and you're right, I do need to be more careful. Anturiaethwr (talk) 02:36, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Thanks for your assistance in helping improve new articles, and your hard work in the Texas group in general. Editors like you keep this project growing! JohninMaryland (talk) 15:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aww schucks, and thank you for the pat on the back. Give me a shout if I can be of any help in the future. Jacksinterweb (talk) 22:29, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Jacksinterweb (talk) ! Actually, you might be able to help - I am asking yourself and a couple of other editors who are extremely active in that era of Texas frontier history. I am in the process of finalizing an article on the first trial of Native Americans leaders for actions undertaken during their struggle against the whites. As you know, in 1871, after the Warren Wagon Train Raid, General Sherman ordered the trial of Satank Satanta and Big Tree, making them the first Native American Leaders to be so tried for raids. Sherman ordered the three Kiowa sub-chiefs taken to Jacksboro, Texas, to stand trial for murder, where Satanta and Big Tree were convicted, Satank having been killed on the way to the trial. My question is, what should I call the article? "The first trial of Native American leaders for resisting white settlement of their traditional lands?" "The Jacksboro Trial?" "Trial to Satanta and Big Tree? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! JohninMaryland (talk) 22:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Texas categories

Ok, I think I see what's going on. The way that the templates were used was incorrect, but my supposed fixes were incorrect, also. I think that this is how they should be: Category:Category-Class Texas articles. When using those templates, the "class" parameter needs to be filled in (e.g. "class=Category"). In that example, I removed the importance template, because "Category-Class" is not a grouping of articles by importance, but rather by quality (I think). Let me know if this makes sense/is now correct. You're right that they weren't redundant, though; I misunderstood what was happening when they weren't filled in all the way. Sorry about all the confusion! Ardric47 (talk) 20:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. The navigation bars were still there after my edits, so I'm not sure what that meant. But let me explain my reasoning behind each change, using Category:Low-importance Texas articles as an example.
  1. I changed
    {{Cat importance|topic=Texas|importance=}}
    to
    {{Cat importance|topic=Texas|importance=Low}}
    because the template Cat importance needs the "importance" parameter to work properly (otherwise, it puts pages in the category Category:-importance articles).
  2. I removed
    {{Cat class|topic=Texas|class=}}
    because Category:Low-importance Texas articles is a category of articles by importance, and not a category of articles by quality.
  3. I removed
    [[Category:Texas articles by importance]]
    and
    [[Category:Low-importance articles|Texas articles]]
    because the template Cat importance automatically places the page in those two categories. I hope this helps, Ardric47 (talk) 00:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify my motivation, no, I am not upset. I may still be doing this wrong, but I was pretty sure that I wasn't. Ardric47 (talk) 00:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Countdown

You are right that the article has had POV-pushing from both sides of the spectrum. The Murrow edit seemed to be an attempt to falsely suggest that only one lone voice has compared Olbermann to Murrow, so my edit summary comment was a little harshly worded. No offense intended.-Hal Raglan (talk) 19:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question About Class

I saw that you placed the article Mo Ranch in the stub class. Now I'm a bit shaky on the rules of Wiki and all, but I thought I would ask you first if you thought the article is now worthy of Start class? If not, please let me know what it is lacking and I will add the appropriate information and editing. If it is, well, I will still continue to contribute to the article. I hope this is the right way about asking you. Thank you. Resueht (talk) 06:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment of articles is fairly subjective, but your recent edits clearly warrant an upgrade to "start" In fact it woudn't take much to bring it up to B class. Ask any of the regular editors for an assessment review after working on an article, and they'll be glad to review it for you, just drop them a line on their talk page, and of course you can always give me a shout (I've become quite the assessment monkey of late;) ). Holler anytime and Great job on the article!
Suggestion to bring Mo Ranch up to WP standards is to provide citations from independent sources (newspaper or magazine articles, but not from blogs or anything closely tied to Mo Ranch). This is important, because the number one reason articles get deleted is a lack of sources. I suspect you might have to dig a bit to find them, but you can probably find them.Jacksinterweb (talk) 13:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think a situation is occuring in this article where an editor, with good intentions, is doing the very thing he wants to avoid, and slanting the article. Would you look at the discussion, and weigh in? I really trust your judgement...JohninMaryland (talk) 03:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I am the editor in question. Any review is welcome. I am not familiar with you, although I can see ample evidence that you have a lot of experience. I stumbled upon the Texas-Indian Wars article and decided to make improvements. My main concerns with the article are NPOV and length. I hope to see you there! Regards, Taquito1 (talk) 05:49, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I want to reiterate I believe Taquito1 (talk) is only attempting to improve the article. I really need your review and others to see if I am inadvertantly creating a POV. Thanks! JohninMaryland (talk) 10:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I will be glad to take a look at the article and weigh in, but it may be Monday morning before I can give it my full attention due to my unusual work schedule this week. At first glance, I think Taquito's concerns are valid. The length is a serious issue, but I think that can be fixed easily without losing the essential narrative of events. There are some POV issues, the narrative tends to draw the conclusion for the reader. Neutralizing some of the weasle and peacock words and sentences will make it easier for the reader to draw their own conclusion (which in this case will more than likely mirror the POV that this article currently has). Conversely, NPOV doesn't mean blind to what happened or be so dispassionate as to make a reader remain neutral after reading the article. The telling of historical events tends to be POV and I don't think it can ever be entirely neutral no matter how hard the writer tries. The two of you seem to be working toward the same goal, a good article. I will give this a more thorough 'look-see' in the next day or so and put in my two cents on specifics. Jacksinterweb (talk) 15:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]